All-

I am selling/trading two items.

Item #1: Navy Arms 1777 Charleville pistol, .69 caliber. Not sure of
the exact age, it may well date back to the Bicentennial years. Sparks
well. Asking $350 US, shipping included. As a caveat, research for
yourself whether or not this piece is legal to own in your home
state/municipality. Sorry, Canada.

Item #2: Long Land Pattern Brown Bess (1742 variant: double bridled
lock; wooden rammer) assembled from Rifle Shop parts. Assembled in
stages by multiple stockers: first work performed by the late Phil
Cravener, this piece was in his shop when he became too ill to work
and then passed on. Upon recovering the piece, I passed it to a new
builder who had to give up when his first child was born. I have tried
to finish the piece, but have run out of free time and spare funds to
pay someone else to do it. Functionally, this means that the quality
of the workmanship is variable. The barrel is proofed and the lock
functions nicely. The issues, resulting from the number of hands that
have touched this project are: the inletting on the buttplate is not
perfect and could use some more effort; the ramrod could use a bit
more tapering as it sticks coming in and out of the pipes; the apron
at the rear of the lock has had a bit too much wood removed (this is
an aesthetic issue and does not impair functionality); the bayonet lug
seems to have been mounted oddly, making it difficult to fix the TRS
bayonet. This could be remedied by removing and re-soldering it in
place. So having listed the faults, all of which seem remediable in
the hands of the right person, I am asking $850 (slightly less than
the cost of the parts from Rifle Shoppe), shipping inside CONUS
included.

Pictures of either piece can be had upon request. Thank you and good night.


--
John J. Ogden

As a follow up, I am willing to consider trades: let me know what you
have to offer.

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:43 PM, John Ogden <johnjogden@...> wrote:
> All-
>
> I am selling/trading two items.
>
> Item #1: Navy Arms 1777 Charleville pistol, .69 caliber. Not sure of
> the exact age, it may well date back to the Bicentennial years. Sparks
> well. Asking $350 US, shipping included. As a caveat, research for
> yourself whether or not this piece is legal to own in your home
> state/municipality. Sorry, Canada.
>
> Item #2: Long Land Pattern Brown Bess (1742 variant: double bridled
> lock; wooden rammer) assembled from Rifle Shop parts. Assembled in
> stages by multiple stockers: first work performed by the late Phil
> Cravener, this piece was in his shop when he became too ill to work
> and then passed on. Upon recovering the piece, I passed it to a new
> builder who had to give up when his first child was born. I have tried
> to finish the piece, but have run out of free time and spare funds to
> pay someone else to do it. Functionally, this means that the quality
> of the workmanship is variable. The barrel is proofed and the lock
> functions nicely. The issues, resulting from the number of hands that
> have touched this project are: the inletting on the buttplate is not
> perfect and could use some more effort; the ramrod could use a bit
> more tapering as it sticks coming in and out of the pipes; the apron
> at the rear of the lock has had a bit too much wood removed (this is
> an aesthetic issue and does not impair functionality); the bayonet lug
> seems to have been mounted oddly, making it difficult to fix the TRS
> bayonet. This could be remedied by removing and re-soldering it in
> place. So having listed the faults, all of which seem remediable in
> the hands of the right person, I am asking $850 (slightly less than
> the cost of the parts from Rifle Shoppe), shipping inside CONUS
> included.
>
> Pictures of either piece can be had upon request. Thank you and good night.
>
>
> --
> John J. Ogden



--
John J. Ogden

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "MasonH"  wrote:
>
> What do you need? I might have stuff to trade?
>
> Mason Howse
>
> --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, John Ogden  wrote:
> >
> > As a follow up, I am willing to consider trades: let me know what you have
to offer.



Gentlemen:
Please conduct your further negotiations off the group list.

Thanks.

Jim Yaworsky
Moderator

Hello All,
 
I would like to thank all you wonderful friends who came to visit
Nancy on her last journey .
Cedar for his long travel from Ohio to smudge . Erna Winters who sang
that lovely song . The poem read by Marilyn Wooldridge written by
Tehahenteh. My Cousin Allen who did the Eulogy and Gisele who sang a
song she wrote to Nancy.
All the people who came from close and far away. My heart goes out to
all of them who came to respect Nancy.

Thank you to all.
with my blessings and Love
Bert Summerhaze

I would like to encourage everyone to do a google search for photo's of War
of 1812 Veterans, also search for photos of Revolutionary War Veterans" Many of
them fought in the war of 1812.".
    It was cool to see actual people who fought in both wars. I even found a
video that showed the Funeral per-session for Hiram Cronk, who was the last
surviving veteran of the war of 1812. Hiram passed away in May 1905. You can
watch it on Youtube.
    Along with the photos of these men, there were interviews and stories about
their lives. It was cool to read about their insight on the Civil War. The vast
majority of them sided with the Union, and even a few of them fought for the
Union, even at their advanced age. It made the War of 1812 even more real to me
to see these men.
I booked marked many of the web pages I found if anyone is interested I can give
them to you.

Eric Fletcher

I've spent the last month and a half attempting to get in touch with
"The Rifle Shoppe". I've emailed and left voice messages. I really want
to give them some money for a new stock for my musket, but haven't
received a reply.

Anyone else dealt with them, or perhaps heard about something that is
preventing them from replying? A meteor maybe?

Thanks,

Matt Lanteigne

Their products are first-rate, but their customer service can be
less-than-stellar. Waits of a year or two between payment and receipt of
goods are not unknown.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Matt Lanteigne <matt_lanteigne@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> I've spent the last month and a half attempting to get in touch with
> "The Rifle Shoppe". I've emailed and left voice messages. I really want
> to give them some money for a new stock for my musket, but haven't
> received a reply.
>
> Anyone else dealt with them, or perhaps heard about something that is
> preventing them from replying? A meteor maybe?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt Lanteigne
>
>



--
John J. Ogden


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The reeanctment at Prairie du Chien, WI will be held July 13-14 with set-up on
the 12th.  Lunches provided both days and the main dish Saturday evening. 
Powder ration on Sunday for those both days (or I suppose just Sunday).  Reenact
on the historic site around a rebuilt blockhouse and in the shadow of a
Victorian mansion.  Oh, and a massive fireworks show Saturday night.

Cheers,
Michael Mathews

 ---------------------------------
No act of kindness, however small is ever wasted. -- Aesop

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Well that's bad news for me. :(

Thanks John.

Matt


On 16/02/2013 12:19 PM, John Ogden wrote:
>
> Their products are first-rate, but their customer service can be
> less-than-stellar. Waits of a year or two between payment and receipt of
> goods are not unknown.
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Matt Lanteigne
> matt_lanteigne@... <mailto:matt_lanteigne%40cogeco.ca>>wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > I've spent the last month and a half attempting to get in touch with
> > "The Rifle Shoppe". I've emailed and left voice messages. I really want
> > to give them some money for a new stock for my musket, but haven't
> > received a reply.
> >
> > Anyone else dealt with them, or perhaps heard about something that is
> > preventing them from replying? A meteor maybe?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Matt Lanteigne
> >
> >
>
> --
> John J. Ogden
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

--
*Matt Lanteigne*
AKA - Lorny or Magnus


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I have made this plea before, but I will make it again. Please don't assume we
all have a great knowledge of geography (although perhaps we should, and there
is Google.) When posting for an event like this, please indicate at least the
state or province.


Thank you!


Ann Wass



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Mathews <memathews@...>
To: WarOf1812 <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:49
Subject: 1812 Prairie du Chien dates





The reeanctment at Prairie du Chien, WI will be held July 13-14 with set-up on
the 12th.  Lunches provided both days and the main dish Saturday evening.
Powder ration on Sunday for those both days (or I suppose just Sunday).  Reenact
on the historic site around a rebuilt blockhouse and in the shadow of a
Victorian mansion.  Oh, and a massive fireworks show Saturday night.

Cheers,
Michael Mathews

  ---------------------------------
No act of kindness, however small is ever wasted. -- Aesop

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Matt,
I've been getting stuff from TRS since 1990. They are a small custom operation
(father, son and a few employees). From my communications with them, they have
had problems getting and keeping skilled craftsmen. And I suspect they have an
huge backlog of work and orders.

True, customer service is not their strong point, but IMHO they are the only
game in town for quality pieces. Be patient, persistant and polite; your order
will be filled...eventually :-)

Harry
3rd Coy, 1st RS


--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, Matt Lanteigne <matt_lanteigne@...> wrote:
>
> Well that's bad news for me. :(
>
> Thanks John.
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 16/02/2013 12:19 PM, John Ogden wrote:
> >
> > Their products are first-rate, but their customer service can be
> > less-than-stellar. Waits of a year or two between payment and receipt of
> > goods are not unknown.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Matt Lanteigne
> > matt_lanteigne@... <mailto:matt_lanteigne%40cogeco.ca>>wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > I've spent the last month and a half attempting to get in touch with
> > > "The Rifle Shoppe". I've emailed and left voice messages. I really want
> > > to give them some money for a new stock for my musket, but haven't
> > > received a reply.
> > >
> > > Anyone else dealt with them, or perhaps heard about something that is
> > > preventing them from replying? A meteor maybe?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Matt Lanteigne
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > John J. Ogden
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> --
> *Matt Lanteigne*
> AKA - Lorny or Magnus
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Prairie du Chien, Wi  = Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin .  I remember they used to
have events while I was still in Ontario and I wished I was able to afford to
travel that far.  Alas, I'm even farther away now. Good luck with the event - it
sounds like an interesting site.

Kathryn

-----Original Message-----
From: annbwass@...
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:12 AM

I have made this plea before, but I will make it again. Please don't assume we
all have a great knowledge of geography (although perhaps we should, and there
is Google.) When posting for an event like this, please indicate at least the
state or province.

Thank you!
Ann Wass


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Mathews To: WarOf1812 <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:49

The reeanctment at Prairie du Chien, WI will be held July 13-14 with set-up on
the 12th.  Lunches provided both days and the main dish Saturday evening.
Powder ration on Sunday for those both days (or I suppose just Sunday).  Reenact
on the historic site around a rebuilt blockhouse and in the shadow of a
Victorian mansion.  Oh, and a massive fireworks show Saturday night.

Cheers,
Michael Mathews

  ---------------------------------
No act of kindness, however small is ever wasted. -- Aesop

Ann, it says WI for Wisconsin.  Since it is a border state, it seemed
reasonable
to expect it would be recognized.  PdC is on the western edge, right on the
Mississippi River.  Making it the western-most action of the war involving
regulars.

Michael

 ---------------------------------
No act of kindness, however small is ever wasted. -- Aesop




________________________________
From: "annbwass@..." <annbwass@...>
To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, February 17, 2013 7:30:49 AM
Subject: Re: 1812 Prairie du Chien dates

 
I have made this plea before, but I will make it again. Please don't assume we
all have a great knowledge of geography (although perhaps we should, and there
is Google.) When posting for an event like this, please indicate at least the
state or province.

Thank you!

Ann Wass

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Mathews memathews@...>
To: WarOf1812 WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:49
Subject: 1812 Prairie du Chien dates

The reeanctment at Prairie du Chien, WI will be held July 13-14 with set-up on
the 12th. Lunches provided both days and the main dish Saturday evening.
Powder ration on Sunday for those both days (or I suppose just Sunday). Reenact
on the historic site around a rebuilt blockhouse and in the shadow of a
Victorian mansion. Oh, and a massive fireworks show Saturday night.

Cheers,
Michael Mathews

---------------------------------
No act of kindness, however small is ever wasted. -- Aesop

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Historic Fort Wayne (downtown Detroit) is opening its gates to a very special
War of 1812 weekend event. Units are welcome to set up as early as Thursday
evening with a little notice. The site will be secured but is open to the public
during open hours.  The scenario is for tents and/or barracks set-up, drill,
living history, and a "battle" if the Crown Forces and their native allies
attend in sufficient numbers to choose to invade Detroit again.
The fort has washroom facilities (including showers!) and 24-hour security.
There will be company fire pits.  The fort will provide lunch on Sat and straw.
For any units bringing a cannon, powder will be reimbursed.
They are working on getting a garrison flag and with enough participation,
sentry and camp activities can be expanded.
The fort's location is quite significant for 1812 as it was in that area that US
and British exchanged cannon fire. The Crown forces landed close by and the 1812
Fort Shelby was just up the river. During the re-take of Detroit, Harrison setup
his encampment there.
Below is a link to the Historic Fort Wayne Coalition site with information on
the Fort and its important role in the war.
http://www.historicfortwaynecoalition.com/Gallery%20Pages/1812-2012.html
This event is supported by the Fort and the Historic Fort Wayne Coalition.
Please mark your calendars for this unique opportunity to experience a 19th
century Star fort in the heart of the American Midwest.
http://www.historicfortwaynecoalition.com/fortabout.html
Please check the Coalition site for more information as it becomes available
http://www.historicfortwaynecoalition.com/contact.html
Roger Heiple Jr.

There was Ann. Michael stated it was in WI

Kevin

To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
From: annbwass@...
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 01:11:42 -0500
Subject: Re: 1812 Prairie du Chien dates


























       I have made this plea before, but I will make it again. Please don't
assume we all have a great knowledge of geography (although perhaps we should,
and there is Google.) When posting for an event like this, please indicate at
least the state or province.



Thank you!



Ann Wass



-----Original Message-----

From: Michael Mathews memathews@...>

To: WarOf1812 WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:49

Subject: 1812 Prairie du Chien dates



The reeanctment at Prairie du Chien, WI will be held July 13-14 with set-up on

the 12th.  Lunches provided both days and the main dish Saturday evening.

Powder ration on Sunday for those both days (or I suppose just Sunday).  Reenact

on the historic site around a rebuilt blockhouse and in the shadow of a

Victorian mansion.  Oh, and a massive fireworks show Saturday night.



Cheers,

Michael Mathews



---------------------------------

No act of kindness, however small is ever wasted. -- Aesop



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Hello to All

Just a reminder regarding the upcoming War of 1812 Bicentennial Symposium that
will be held in Hamilton,ON., Saturday, March 2, 2013, at the Sheraton Hotel,
116 King St. West.

Whether you are a re-enactor or if you are interested in history, this is your
conference.

The website says it all in terms of the quality of the speakers (24 in all from
Britain, Canada and the US) and the variety of interesting and informative
topics that will be covered.  There is, as always, a tremendous merchant's area
and the opportunity to reconnect with friends and fellow re-enactors is
unlimited.

Following the day, a formal dinner and dance will be held  in the evening at the
same location.

Please register online for both the conference and dinner/dance at
www.livinghistoryconference.com  This is a must to ensure that you can view the
speakers you wish to see and guarantee your lunch and coffee breaks.  Walk-ups
are welcome but you will have to provide your own lunch and you may not be able
to view the speakers you wish to see.

I look forward to seeing you.  Please email me if you have any questions.

Rob McGuire
Media Liaison
Living History Conference 2013
1st Regiment of Foot (Royal Scots)
Grenadier Company

List,

The Tall Ships 1812 Tour Dates have been added to the Calendar of Events site
with a link to the event's page.
http://www.tallships1812.ca/

Thank you.
Dave Westhouse.

http://royal.scots.tripod.com/warof1812eventslist/index.html

I had problems with them getting back to me as well.  I just kept calling
until I actually got a living person on the other end of the line.  Once
that happened, then I was able to place my order and I received my items in
a timely fashion.  But the stuff I ordered were items that they did have in
stock, so I didn't have to wait for any manufacturing time.



Mark Dickerson

_._,___



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Not at this time, Ross, but Kellogg's Co. of Artillery (NYS Militia) has this
event on our calendar and plans to attend.
ITAS,
Nathaniel Elwell, drummer
frantically mugging up camp duty for this time period

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "Ross Flowers" <drums1812@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Does anyone on this list have any information about the Fort Niagara
bicentennial event scheduled for August 31/September 1 of this year?
>
> Drums
>

Penetanguishene & Midland, Ontario, Canada

August 24th & 25th/2013



PAID EVENT - LOOKING FOR: WAR OF 1812 RE-ENACTORS, ARTISANS, ENTERTAINERS,
HISTORICAL DISPLAYS, PRESENTATIONS, ETC...


The Southern Georgian Bay region will play host to a vast array of events,
activities and projects from 2013 to 2014 to commemorate the 200th
anniversary of the War of 1812, focusing on our region's rich military and
marine heritage. The highlight for 2013 will be the return of Tall ShipsR to
the Southern Georgian Bay region as part of the TALL SHIPSR 1812 Tour. The
ports of Penetanguishene and Midland will be hosting up to as many as 10
Tall ShipsR on August 24th and 25th as part of a Pan Provincial event that
will travel throughout Ontario during the summer of 2013, commemorating the
bicentennial of the War of 1812.



The Towns of Midland and Penetanguishene are looking to host an early 19th
Century/War of 1812 encampment in conjunction with this two day TALL SHIPSR
1812 Tour event and are looking specifically looking for the following:

British & American Military Units, Individuals & Encampments

Long Boat Crews and Boats with Cannons/Naval Encampments

Fife and Drum Groups
Period Demonstrators, Artisans, Entertainers and Merchants
Native, Voyageur, Buckskinner Units, Individuals & Encampments
Artillery Crews and Cannons/Artillery Encampments



If you have a special unique 19th century talent not listed above we would
also like to hear from you!

This is a paid event for all participants and you will be compensated for
attending and providing wholesome education and public orientated
programming. A reminder that this event is a little different from normal
re-enactments as all participants are being compensated for attending and
during the event you are required to cater and interact with the public.
First person interpretations and historical portrayals are stressed and
encouraged as much as possible.

If you are available to attend the event please submit a proposal with the
following information from you or your unit/group:

1. Name, Address, Postal Code, Phone Number and E-mail address
2. A description of what you have to offer in regards to talent,
demonstrations, exhibits, entertainment, encampments etc.
3. Any promotional materials, pictures, website addresses, flyers, cd, etc.
promoting yourself or your group
4. How many performances, interpretations, and presentations you would
perform if applicable.
5. How much it would cost for participating in this two day event.
6. Please submit your proposals to David J. Brunelle at:

Email - davidbrunelle@...


Please submit proposals as soon as possible the Committee will be making
decisions on an ongoing basis as to which proposals we will be accepting for
the event. I thank you all in advance for submitting your proposals as you
are more than aware that all  proposals submitted may not be selected for
the event.

We look forward to receiving everyone's proposals and if you have any
questions feel free to contact me anytime!


David J. Brunelle
Co-ordinator Historical Displays/Exhibits
TALL SHIPSR 1812 - Midland & Penetanguishene

*****If you would like to be removed from this mailing list please ask
nicely and it will be done!





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Hello Everyone,

I am fairly new to the group and to 1812 re-enacting having joined the Fencibles
in late 2011 and enjoyed my first big event at Fanshawe.

For those interested, I have been working on researching the 100th Regt and have
setup both a website and Facebook page. It's a work in progress and I do what I
can in my spare time.

Please take a look when you have a minute and feel free to contact me if you
would like to chat.


www.100thregiment.org

http://www.facebook.com/100thregiment?ref=hl

Thanks
William

Very cool.
Are you portraying the unit?

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "william2bc" <william@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am fairly new to the group and to 1812 re-enacting having joined the
Fencibles in late 2011 and enjoyed my first big event at Fanshawe.
>
> For those interested, I have been working on researching the 100th Regt and
have setup both a website and Facebook page. It's a work in progress and I do
what I can in my spare time.
>
> Please take a look when you have a minute and feel free to contact me if you
would like to chat.
>
>
> www.100thregiment.org
>
> http://www.facebook.com/100thregiment?ref=hl
>
> Thanks
> William
>

Hello Jim,

We are hoping too. What is planned is a heritage interpretation program for the
Ottawa area similar to what can be seen in Halifax, Montreal, Toronto.

We dont have a fort or anything but the plan is to do displays on a rotating
basis at local museums, heritage sites, and parks. If there is interest, the
unit may attend some re-enactments but that is not the focus.

We will be launching it next week so if anyone in the Ottawa area is interested,
please let me know.

William


--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jhill@...> wrote:
>
> Very cool.
> Are you portraying the unit?
>

The Ontario Heritage Trust centre at the site of Upper Canada's first
parliament in Toronto, is looking for uniformed American 1812 reenactors
(either based in Canada or the US) to 'march' on the site during the 200th
anniversary of its being burned down during  the American invasion of York
in April 1813.

The idea is to  have the soldiers march from Ft. York to the parliament site
at the corner of Front and Berkeley. The march would take about an hour I'd
think but who knows - locals may stop them along the way to offer libations
and sustenance - or jeer them - as I imagine both happened in 1813,

At the end of the march there is a reception/opening of a new OHT exhibit
which includes the coat Roger Sheaffe wore during the war, which has been
donated to the OHT by his family. Of course Sheaffe was one of the heroes of
Queenston Heights and succeeded Brock not only as commander in chief but
also as head of the government - so the setting is fitting.

The exact time of the march has yet to be determined - the OHT is trying not
to conflict with events planned for the Fort through Saturday and waiting
for the availability of the Lieutenant-Governor who will be opening the
exhibit.

      American units on either side of the border, if they are interested
they should contact Sam Wesley at the OHT, (416) 212-8898 or
sam.wesley@... for further details.



Mark Dickerson

www.battleofthethames.ca





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Hello Group,
Question, would an Army Captain wear the same style coats as the enlisted men
but with epaulet, etc. or would it be more like the "Zebulon Pike" coat with all
the trim and double breasted?
Thanks!
Steve

Hi Everyone,

                I was asked to forward this information on to the list and if
you are interested in attending please contact Carol Trainor event organizer
directly at stjoeadmin@... .

Take Care!

David  J. Brunelle, OCT



The Township of St. Joseph and Fort St. Joseph National Historic Site
welcome you to a historical, musical, cultural and military
extravaganzacalled Island Gathering:  A Festival of Cultural Alliances.
Over two days and at two locations, enjoy massed pipe bands, highland
dancing, period music, British soldier re-enactments, a Metis encampment,
Voyageur demonstrations, paddling competitions, military displays, food, fun
and festivities all done up in 1812 style.

Proposed Saturday, August 24, 2013

Fort St. Joseph National Historic Site, 11 - 5 and Richards Landing
Centennial Grounds 4 - 10

Gathering of mass pipe bands, opening parade to Chimney and welcome with the
cannon.  Wreath laying and moment of silence following pipe parade around
the access road.  Canoes in the harbour / backdrop.

Metis camp set up with dancing, fiddling, music.  First Nations singers and
drummers (invited) performing throughout the day.

Highland dancers, merchandise vendors, military muster / drills, cannon
ongoing, food booths.

Alexander MacKenzie character portrayal by 1812 Animated.

Talks / presentations throughout the day in the theatre:   Alexander
MacKenzie and the role of the 49th of Foot at the Fort.

Historic Canoe contingent to paddle to the WI Park, Richards Landing.

Move to Richards Landing in afternoon, events taking place from 4 to 10 p.m.


-        Pipe band performances, highland dancing, 1812 encampment, Metis
dancing

-        49th Field Regiment demonstration of current activities

-        Historic military vehicle display

-        Concert:  Muddy York and O'Schraves play on small stage at 8 p.m.

-        Beer gardens and Scotch nosing

Canoe races and demonstrations at Richards Landing WI Park.

Overnight encampment for re-enactors, courier du bois and voyageurs.

Sunday, August 25:  Richards Landing 10 - 3:  1812 British encampment,
military exhibits, drill and musters, voyageur and Metis demonstrations,
period vendors and music.  Food booths open.

Carol O. Trainor, A.M.C.T.

Clerk Administrator

The Township of St. Joseph

1669 Arthur Street, Box 187

Richards Landing, Ontario

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Ph:  705-246-2625

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My understanding is that a Captain would have the same style of coat as the
men, but tricked out a bit more with silver buttons and lace.  But please do
not quote me on that.  Best bet would be to check with Rene Chartrand's
book.  It is still available through Service Publications.

http://www.servicepub.com/



Mark D





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The "Zebulon Pike" coat is the 1808 officer's pattern coat.  Officer's coats
were of similar pattern to the enlisted but made of superior materials. The
style of coat depends upon the time period and regiment you are portraying.

Steve Abolt is very knowledgeable about the nuances of the coats and is in the
business of reproducing them.  You can see examples of his work on
www.cottonbaler.com. Specifically the 1808 and 1814 pattern officer coats.

Cheers

Jas Lundgren
7th US Infy



--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <wylecoyote79@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Group,
> Question, would an Army Captain wear the same style coats as the enlisted men
but with epaulet, etc. or would it be more like the "Zebulon Pike" coat with all
the trim and double breasted?
> Thanks!
> Steve
>

Good morning list

We are nearing the cutoff for registering for the symposium which is only a week
away!

Lunch can only be offered to those who pre-register and make prior arrangements
to payment.  We have to submit our banquet order on Monday and maybe can add a
little to it by Wednesday.

If you were thinking of joining us, sign up and come and spend the day with 200+
of your friends listening to some of the foremost authorities on the War of
1812.

For those in the area, there will be a room on the 2nd floor of the Sheraton
Hotel where we can have an informal reception.  It will feature a cash bar
(sorry we just could not replicate last year's feat of a complimentary bar).

Thanks so much and we look forward to seeing you next weekend!

Tom Fournier
On Behalf of the Organizing Committee
War of 1812 Bicentennial Symposium
www.livinghistoryconference.com

Officer's garments vary in style throughout the war.  By the uniform change of
Feb 1812 company grade officers were to wear coatees.  This means a short tailed
coat.  The coatees with red collars and cuffs were to be trimmed in metallic
braid on the collars.  The blind buttonholes on the chest, pocket flaps and
cuffs were to be worked in silk twist.

Some officers fully laced their 1812 pattern coats.  The portrait of CPT S.W.
Kearney's hows such a laced coat.  The light artillery coat of CPT Samuel Price
in the collection of the TN State museum in Nashville also is a fully laced
coat.

 Previously officers had coats reaching to the bend of the knee.  This was with
the 1808 pattern.  There is some debate if the 1810 pattern had either 3/4
length or all the way to the knee.  At the beginning of the war officers of
Regiments 1 through 7 were in either the pattern of 1808 or 1810.

The 1812 regulations also allowed an undress coat for all officers.  This was an
all blue garment with blind buttonholes worked in silk twist. The collar was to
be framed and its buttonholes laced in metallic. It was this garment which
evolved in May 1813 to the long tailed all blue coat for all officers sans
metallic trim..  This style with slight modifications was worn until 1821.  At
that time company grade officers were again uniformed in the short tail coat,.

What is important to note that the US Army tended to uniform their company
officers with the same shilouette  as the enlisted man. This changed in 1813.
 The exception being the coats were made of finer materials and construction.
 Meaning finer cloth,  metallic lace in place of worsted tape, buttons of silver
or gold plate, depending on branch as opposed to either pewter or brass for
enlisted.

Rank was denoted by the placement of epaulets.  Company grade wore one with
field grade wearing two.

When ,on the rare occasion, sgts were raised from the ranks, they tended to wear
their old garments with modifications until they could get with a tailor to
produce the proper garments.  The inventory of a deceased officer who had been a
sgt, shows very little in the way of clothing befitting an officer.  The only
officer materials listed are his epaulet, sword, belt and feather.

All the best,
S.
 



--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "Steve"  wrote:
>
> Hello Group,
> Question, would an Army Captain wear the same style coats as the enlisted men
but with epaulet, etc. or would it be more like the "Zebulon Pike" coat with all
the trim and double breasted?
> Thanks!
> Steve
>

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