One of the ideas which surfaced among the Crown Forces Staff over the winter was
the compilation of a list of merchants who are able to supply good quality
clothing and kit to new reenactors or members of other time periods and units
who want to become involved in 1812 events during the bicentennial.

I am prepared to compile such a list as a service to the hobby.  I am willing to
post positive recommendations submitted by any member other than the owner of
the business recommended.  If technically possible I will also consider
including reviews by members who have found a particular merchant to be
particularly GOOD.  Reviews need not be signed but I am not interested in
'flaming' any merchant or his/her products.  Presumably, the absence of a name
from the list, once compiled, will speak for itself.

Again

Peter Monahan
Quartermaster, Crown Forces Staff

Further to my first message, it might be helpful if anyone submitting a
merchant's name or a review mention which items or lines are particularly period
appropriate or well made, as many of our merchants specialize in one item or
area.  Notes on relative cost would also be appropriate.  Than you.

PM

petemonahan@...
705-435-0953

Welcome, Dave!

I look forward to seeing you in the field.

-W. Chris Ward




To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
From: bob@...
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:16:42 -0400
Subject: RE: 1812 Introduction






Welcome Dave, I know I'll be working with you! Glad you are on.

Bob Boynton

Cabarrus Co, NC detached militia

From: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of capndavelxiv
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:31 PM
To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
Subject: 1812 Introduction

Hi All-

I'm new to reenacting the War of 1812, but have been a Revolutionary War
reenactor since 1976. Have been a member of H.M.64th Regiment of Foot all
that time, I am still quite active and am a Captain commanding a company of
infantry.

I reside in the North Carolina Piedmont and am working on a rifle frock to
complete an impression of a militiaman of the Wake Volunteer Guards. Since I
was actually reenacting during the Rev War Bicentennial, I do get the
privilege of portraying a "76" man. I'll be regaling the younger members of
the unit about how I was at the front line at Hannah's Cowpens, and how we
sent Banny Tarleton running!

I look forward to gathering a lot of information from you in my first
serious foray outside the period of the Revolution. I hope to meet some of
you in the flesh at upcoming reenactments.

Dave Snyder

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Greetings Folks! This was not sent by me. I am finding that it may be phish or
just junk email. I am sorry. Someone sent it to me and now it may hit all of
you.
Dan out.

Hello All,

I would like to announce the formation of a new Crown Forces unit, The York
Volunteers.

In the winter, I was asked to organize those Revolutionary War re-enactors of
the Northern Brigade who are not aligned with other units, but wish to support
events of the Bi-centennial. We will be portraying an 1812 Flank Company of
Upper Canadian Militia.

Why the name, you might ask? Well, it's cheeky but contains references to the
three major units within this organization; The Royal Regiment of New York, The
Queen's Rangers (now the the Queen's York Rangers) and the Company of Select
Marksmen (some-times known as the British Volunteers.)

I hope to see everyone soon on the 21st and 22nd at Ft George.

Cheers,

Len Heidebrecht
Nec Aspera Terrent

On October 12, 2012 The Friends of Fort George, in co-operation with Parks
Canada and the Niagara Parks Commission will be hosting a Special Educational
Day, commemorating the 200th anniversary of the Battle of Queenston Heights.  If
you are interested in setting up a station for the day, if you have a great
idea, or if you would like to participate in other ways, you can contact me by
email at admin@....

Registration for the Battle of Queenston Heights Re-enactment weekend will be
available for re-enactors and merchants within the next couple of weeks.

We are looking forward to celebrating this major anniversary with you!

Amanda
Friends of Fort George

Good evening everyone,

The Backus-Page House Museum near Wallacetown, Ontario is looking for a few more
presenters for our Grade 7 students.  Presentations can be 15 or 30 minutes in
length.  Looking for reenactors or presenters to do mini militia, Women during
the War of 1812, food eaten by soldiers, etc.

Education Day is Friday, May 25
May 26 & 27 is open to the general public if you are available to stay

Please respond with a description of your presentation, space needed, and fee
required to Angela Bobier (President).  519-768-2401  519-317-8255 
backuspagehouse@...

www.backsupagehouse.ca

I was looking for a new musket at Loyalist Arms, and saw they have a British
1760s artillery carbine – basically a  short  bess. I was thinking that might be
interesting to have in our militia artillery unit (1812)– it makes sense having 
a gun that's a bit shorter if you have to do other work like hauling cannon
while its slung across your back.  A nice thing about playing militia is that we
don't have to struggle to justify the presence of any gun of the era in our
camp, but I'm curious if shorter carbines were still being issued to royal
artillery units during or close to  the war of 1812 period
Anyone know?

Or you can buy a carbine from here
http://www.militaryheritage.com/muskets.htm   for $120 less!



Kevin

RNR






I was looking for a new musket at Loyalist Arms, and saw they have a British
1760s artillery carbine [snip]

Ref: SMALL ARMS OF THE BRITISH FORCES IN AMERICA 1664-1815, page 138 by DeWitt
Bailey. "From the mid-1790's, the India Pattern Serjeant's Carbine was the
pattern issued when non-mounted service carbines were reguired." From page 65:
"1795 Pattern Serjeant's Carbine. This is a reduced scale version of the India
Pattern 1795 Musket. Overall length 52 inches, 37-inch round, tapered barrel..."
Illustration (Plate 1-72)and caption on page 66: "(Serjeant's Carbine)...saw
limited service in America as regiments arrived for the War of 1812."  From page
65 under 1776/94 Artillery Carbine: "The Royal Artillery received musket-bore
arms from September 1802." [Note: Carbine caliber was .62, musket was .75].

As I read the above info, in our period, Royal Artillery would have used the
regular issue 1795 India Pattern Musket, which is the 39-barrel and .75 cal. The
Serjeant's Carbine was not used by the artillery.  But, FWIW & IMHO, Militia
could get away with the earlier 1776/94 Pattern Artillery Carbine with the
37-barrel and .62 caliber, which is the one you first mentioned.

Hope this info is of some help.
Regards,
Harry Pilotto
3d Coy,
1st Royal Scots (1812)
42d RHR (1815)

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "rotmistrzb" <orlirva@...> wrote:
>
>  I was looking for a new musket at Loyalist Arms, and saw they have a British
1760s artillery carbine – basically a  short  bess. I was thinking that might be
interesting to have in our militia artillery unit (1812)– it makes sense having 
a gun that's a bit shorter if you have to do other work like hauling cannon
while its slung across your back.  A nice thing about playing militia is that we
don't have to struggle to justify the presence of any gun of the era in our
camp, but I'm curious if shorter carbines were still being issued to royal
artillery units during or close to  the war of 1812 period
> Anyone know?
>

Greetings from Lewiston, NY!

We're looking for some redcoats to wreak
havoc and consternation (ostensibly looking
for deserters) on the U.S. side of the border
in Lewiston, NY, on Friday, October 12, 2012.

This is the day before the big 200th Anniversary
Battle of Queenston Heights reenactment in
Queenston, Ontario, right across the river.

If your unit can spend a couple of hours
intimidating local citizens who are hiding
runaway British regulars, we've love to have you!

This will be a great opportunity to let visitors
see what the enemy looks like.

If interested, please contact me directly
and we'll put you to work!  Thank you!

Lee Simonson, Volunteer
Director, Battle of Queenston Heights (U.S. side)
October 12-14, 2012
Lewiston, New York
716-754-8414
lee@...

Very helpful, thanks.

[the unknown member]

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "Harry" <hpilotto@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Ref: SMALL ARMS OF THE BRITISH FORCES IN AMERICA 1664-1815, page 138 by DeWitt
Bailey.[snip]

Hello Group,
  Firstly, my name is Steve and I am a member of the Federal Blues, a RI Militia
unit. The Blues were chartered in 1798 and was active until 1816 in the Rhode
Island area during the War of 1812. In 1816 we handed in our charter but it was
reactivated in 1976 for the Bicentennial. At the time in 1976, the decision was
made to wear Revolutionary War uniforms and participate in those type of
reenactments, etc. It has been brought up by myself and several of the members
that we be true to ourselves and our history and convert over to 1812 uniforms
and maybe get in on those events. Now that it is the 200th anniversary, it seems
that now is the best time to do so. I just want to warn you that I will be
asking A LOT of questions. Thanx and Happy reenacting!

Lt. Steve Curria
Federal Blues
Rhode Island Militia

Hello again Friends,
  Has anyone had a run in with, or could speak of the quality of these shakos
that are made in India? Are the shoddy or are they decent quality?
Thanx,
Steve
Federal Blues
Rhode Island Militia

Does anyone know the time this starts on saturday?
Thank you.
Roy Winders.


________________________________

From:
Brig. Peter Twist
Col. Craig Williams


January 28th, 2012


Crown Forces School of the Officer, 2012


The annual Crown Forces School of the Officer will take place this year on
Saturday, April 21st, at Fort George, Niagara on the Lake, Upper Canada.
[snip]

If anyone has a phone number for Cheryl MacDonald, would they please contact me
off list?
Thank you.
 
Roy Winders.
rangerroy50@...

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9:00.

Chris McKay

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, roy winders <rangerroy50@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the time this starts on saturday?
> Thank you.
> Roy Winders.
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:
> Brig. Peter Twist
> Col. Craig Williams
>
>
> January 28th, 2012
>
>
> Crown Forces School of the Officer, 2012
>
>
> The annual Crown Forces School of the Officer will take place this year on
Saturday, April 21st, at Fort George, Niagara on the Lake, Upper Canada.
> [snip]
>

First session starts at 9:00 am sharp.
A schedule will be posted shortly.

Craig
On 15-Apr-12, at 12:49 PM, roy winders wrote:

> Does anyone know the time this starts on saturday?
> Thank you.
> Roy Winders.
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:
> Brig. Peter Twist
> Col. Craig Williams
>
> January 28th, 2012
>
> Crown Forces School of the Officer, 2012
>
> The annual Crown Forces School of the Officer will take place this
> year on Saturday, April 21st, at Fort George, Niagara on the Lake,
> Upper Canada.
> [snip]
>
>



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Thanks Chris.



________________________________
  From: shayna121 <PrivateCannon@...>
To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 3:48:04 PM
Subject: Re: 1812



 

9:00.

Chris McKay

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, roy winders <rangerroy50@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the time this starts on saturday?
> Thank you.
> Roy Winders.
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:
> Brig. Peter Twist
> Col. Craig Williams
>
>
> January 28th, 2012
>
>
> Crown Forces School of the Officer, 2012
>
>
> The annual Crown Forces School of the Officer will take place this year on
Saturday, April 21st, at Fort George, Niagara on the Lake, Upper Canada.
> [snip]
>




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Thanks Craig



________________________________
  From: Craig Williams <sgtwarner@...>
To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:30:31 PM
Subject: Re: 1812

First session starts at 9:00 am sharp.
A schedule will be posted shortly.

Craig
On 15-Apr-12, at 12:49 PM, roy winders wrote:

> Does anyone know the time this starts on saturday?
> Thank you.
> Roy Winders.
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:
> Brig. Peter Twist
> Col. Craig Williams
>
> January 28th, 2012
>
> Crown Forces School of the Officer, 2012
>
> The annual Crown Forces School of the Officer will take place this 
> year on Saturday, April 21st, at Fort George, Niagara on the Lake, 
> Upper Canada.
> [snip]
>
>



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Hi  All,
some of you may know that our dear friend Cheryl McDonald has been having health
issues, namely the big C.
My wife Elsa managed to speak with her on the phone today and Cheryl would like
all her friends to know
that although she is still very weak, she is slowly improving and retains her
wonderful sense of humour.
 
Wishing her a full recovery.
Roy & Elsa. Winders.

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Hello list,

I have been requested to add an event to the Calendar of Events. It has been
added.

Details below. View the calendar of events at;
http://royal.scots.tripod.com/warof1812eventslist/

Dave Westhouse.



Subject: 1812 Chillicothe Bicentennial Event

Greetings Living Historians!

              In cooperation with the First Regiment Volunteer Infantry, the
Adena Mansion & Gardens Society and the Ross County Historical Society are happy
to announce a joint effort to host a living history event commemorating the
bicentennial of Chillicothe, Ohio during the War of 1812.
              This event will take place on the grounds of the Adena mansion on
July 21st and 22nd 2012. Adena was the 200-acre estate of Thomas Worthington
(1773-1807), the sixth Governor of Ohio and one of the state's first United
States Senator's. The mansion house, completed in 1806-1807, has been restored
to look much as it did when the Worthington family lived there, including many
of the Worthington family furnishings. The mansion is situated on the 300
remaining acres of the original estate and includes five outbuildings and
restored formal gardens.
             The main event scenario will be a typical militia muster of the 1811
to 1815 period and will include soldiers, militia, civilians, tradesman, sutlers
and Native Americans.
              Such musters were an important part of the early Republic's life
and took place in almost every populated town and city.  In many cases these
events involved the entire community, which included trade, politics and social
events.  With the declaration of war with Great Britain in June of 1812 these
events took on even more importance.
Special scenarios we will be focusing on for this event will include the raising
of Captain Henry Brush's company to relieve Detroit during the summer of 1812.

In August of 1812, Ohio Governor Jonathan Meigs, Jr. directed the assembly of
provisions for the relief of Detroit at the request of General William Hull.
Troops were required to protect the convoy and between 60 and 70 men stepped
into the ranks at the call.  On Monday morning the company paraded at the Ross
County, Ohio courthouse and elected Henry Brush, Captain.
              Being without uniform they agreed upon a suitable smocks,
immediately purchased the fabric needed, and through the exertions of the ladies
of Chillicothe they were all completed before evening. Meanwhile, the rest of
the citizens made molds and then molded bullets and buckshot; some made
cartridges. Before evening, nearly 2000 cartridges had been made, each
containing a ball and three buckshot. Other provisions, canteens, knapsacks,
blankets and camp equipment were provided, all at the expense of private
individuals. Early the next morning they started for Urbana. In less than 24
hours, a large company of volunteers had been raised, completely equipped, and
was on the march through a hostile and wilderness country.

              We also hope to represent Chillicothe serving as a headquarters of
the 19th U.S. Regiment of Infantry during the war, and feature an encampment by
Native Americans on land owned by Thomas Worthington.

             This bicentennial event will be a juried, requiring each participant
to submit an application. If you are a unit commander and receiving this
invitation, please forward this to your unit members, as they will need to apply
individually. These guidelines are meant to be helpful, so please read carefully
and feel free to contact us with any questions.
Although a military impression is a very important element for our event, we
would also like to enhance the weekend by including strictly period tradesmen,
citizens, children and Native American interpreters. If you know individuals
that do any of these impressions, please have them contact us so we can send
them an application too.

If you have any questions, ideas or concerns please let us know!
All the Best,
Ken & Ericka Osen

586-336-0837
kaosen056 at aol.com

I am looking for information on the burial site of Urial Pettit Sr.  He was with
the 2nd Norfolk Militia and died on January 01 1813 on the Niagara Frontier.
Urial's wife applied for a pension after the war to support their son.  His
father was a Loyalist. I am helping out a gentleman from the Grand River U.E.'s
Thanks, Pauline GrondinVoices of the Pastwww.paulinegrondin.com


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Navy of the War of 1812: Sailors on the Lakes

Hello Esteemed Colleagues,

Please accept my apologies for this formal invitation coming so late as we are
still working out the details and have been waiting on some funding
announcements to be finalized.  As many of you have already heard, Fort George
is hosting a War of 1812 Naval Event to celebrate the Bicentennial of the War of
1812 on July 14 & 15 2012.  This is a joint venture put on by us at Fort George
and Vic Suthern who is organizing the Naval Component.  This re-enactment is
open to all re-enactors who want to participate.  The weekend will include 3
battles including both a Naval Landing at Queens' Royal Park and an evening
tactical inside Fort George similar to the tactical last year.  (Thank you to
those of you again you put on a fantastic show!)  There will also be programming
put on exclusively for re-enactors including a cheer tent and period music. 
Meals will be provided on both days at no charge, as well as the usual
amenities; wood, water, etc...

With regards to registration:

INFANTRY:

As with all re-enactments at Fort George, any War of 1812 Infantry units are
welcome to attend.  Infantry units can register the usual way by e-mailing me
peter.martin@...    and I will send you the registration package.  Only
Unit Commanders (including units of one) have to fill out the registration and I
have convinced the Powers-That-Be to keep said form to ONE!  Please include all
members of your unit that could attend as we need to make sure we have enough
food.

NAVY:

Navy units are registering with Vic Suthren: suthren@...    who will then
forward your information to me so we can get an accurate count for food
purposes.

MERCHANTS:

At the request for our partners for this event, the camp will be located on the
Water side of the fort.  This will keep all the re-enactor camps close to each
other and it's also much cooler on that side of the fort.  The road will be
closed for visitor and participant safety and to give us more room.  Even with
that, there is a very limited amount of space on "Merchants Row".  I would ask
Merchants to email me at their earliest convenience so I can assess if we have
enough space for those who are interested in attending.

We are still working out all the details and a schedule for the re-enactment but
it is shaping up to be a very exciting weekend.  As aways there will be awards
for best death, longest travelled and a random door prize.  If you have any
questions please feel free to contact me.  Thank you as always and here's to a
great first summer of the Bicentennial!!!

Cheers,

Peter Martin
Special Events Coordinator I  Coordonateur d'événements spéciaux
Niagara National Historic Sites of Canada  |  Lieux historique nationaux du
Canada du Niagara
Parks Canada Agency  | Agence Parcs Canada
26 Queen Street, P.O.Box 787, Niagara-on-the-Lake ON L0S 1J0 | C.P. 787 - 26 rue
Queen, Niagara-on-the-Lake ON L0S 1J0
Peter.Martin@...
Telephone  | Téléphone 905-468-1393
Fax | Télécopieur 905-468- 4638
Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada

"The War of 1812: A Time to Discover | La guerre de 1812 – Une époque à
découvrir "

To: Military 1812 Re-enactors



The Directorate of Navy History and Heritage of the RCN, which is partnering
with Parks Canada in the presentation of the major re-enactment event at
Fort George/Navy Hall, Niagara-on-the-lake, Ontario, on the weekend of July
13-15, adds its voice of welcome and encouragement to military re-enactors,
who it is hoped will attend this exciting event. Entitled The Navy Of 1812:
Sailors On The Lakes, it will also feature battles within the fort as well
as a wide range of other activities, including an Assault Landing on the
Saturday afternoon from a longboat flotilla, in the presence of a six-ship
'1812 Squadron'. Plan to attend this unique and memorable re-enactment
weekend.



Captain(N) Victor Suthren CD MA RCN (Hon)

Project Head

Colonial Sailor Program

Directorate of Navy History and Heritage

Royal Canadian Navy

suthren@...

Victor.Suthren@...



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Wasn't Chillicothe was also a prisoner of war camp? No that would be a neat
non-firing Living history demo.
Len
--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "westhouse03" <westhouse@...> wrote:
>
> Hello list,
>
> I have been requested to add an event to the Calendar of Events. It has been
added.
>
> Details below. View the calendar of events at;
> http://royal.scots.tripod.com/warof1812eventslist/
>
> Dave Westhouse.
>
>
>
> Subject: 1812 Chillicothe Bicentennial Event
>
> Greetings Living Historians!
>
>              In cooperation with the First Regiment Volunteer Infantry, the
Adena Mansion & Gardens Society and the Ross County Historical Society are happy
to announce a joint effort to host a living history event commemorating the
bicentennial of Chillicothe, Ohio during the War of 1812.
>              This event will take place on the grounds of the Adena mansion on
July 21st and 22nd 2012. Adena was the 200-acre estate of Thomas Worthington
(1773-1807), the sixth Governor of Ohio and one of the state's first United
States Senator's. The mansion house, completed in 1806-1807, has been restored
to look much as it did when the Worthington family lived there, including many
of the Worthington family furnishings. The mansion is situated on the 300
remaining acres of the original estate and includes five outbuildings and
restored formal gardens.
>             The main event scenario will be a typical militia muster of the
1811 to 1815 period and will include soldiers, militia, civilians, tradesman,
sutlers and Native Americans.
>              Such musters were an important part of the early Republic's life
and took place in almost every populated town and city.  In many cases these
events involved the entire community, which included trade, politics and social
events.  With the declaration of war with Great Britain in June of 1812 these
events took on even more importance.
> Special scenarios we will be focusing on for this event will include the
raising of Captain Henry Brush's company to relieve Detroit during the summer of
1812.
>
> In August of 1812, Ohio Governor Jonathan Meigs, Jr. directed the assembly of
provisions for the relief of Detroit at the request of General William Hull.
Troops were required to protect the convoy and between 60 and 70 men stepped
into the ranks at the call.  On Monday morning the company paraded at the Ross
County, Ohio courthouse and elected Henry Brush, Captain.
>              Being without uniform they agreed upon a suitable smocks,
immediately purchased the fabric needed, and through the exertions of the ladies
of Chillicothe they were all completed before evening. Meanwhile, the rest of
the citizens made molds and then molded bullets and buckshot; some made
cartridges. Before evening, nearly 2000 cartridges had been made, each
containing a ball and three buckshot. Other provisions, canteens, knapsacks,
blankets and camp equipment were provided, all at the expense of private
individuals. Early the next morning they started for Urbana. In less than 24
hours, a large company of volunteers had been raised, completely equipped, and
was on the march through a hostile and wilderness country.
>
>              We also hope to represent Chillicothe serving as a headquarters
of the 19th U.S. Regiment of Infantry during the war, and feature an encampment
by Native Americans on land owned by Thomas Worthington.
>
>             This bicentennial event will be a juried, requiring each
participant to submit an application. If you are a unit commander and receiving
this invitation, please forward this to your unit members, as they will need to
apply individually. These guidelines are meant to be helpful, so please read
carefully and feel free to contact us with any questions.
> Although a military impression is a very important element for our event, we
would also like to enhance the weekend by including strictly period tradesmen,
citizens, children and Native American interpreters. If you know individuals
that do any of these impressions, please have them contact us so we can send
them an application too.
>
> If you have any questions, ideas or concerns please let us know!
> All the Best,
> Ken & Ericka Osen
>
> 586-336-0837
> kaosen056 at aol.com
>

Hey all,

If anyone is looking to volunteer for 1812 events you can sign up through the
Legacy Council. We send out volunteer opportunities for numerous events.
http://discover1812.com/page/volunteer_now_


Signature Events for 2012
June 15-18 - Opening Ceremonies Weekend
June 23 - Fort Erie's Grande Parade
July 13-15 - The Navy of 1812: Sailors on the Lakes
July 21 - Niagara Falls History Museum Reopening
Aug. 11-12 - The Siege of Fort Erie Re-enactment
Oct. 13 - Battle of Queenston Heights Re-enactment

I think for most of these events we will be participating as re-enactors....



Well except for the opening of the Museum, but I have my own reasons for not
going to that!



Kevin



From: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of legacycouncil1812

Hey all,

If anyone is looking to volunteer for 1812 events you can sign up through
the Legacy Council. We send out volunteer opportunities for numerous events.

http://discover1812.com/page/volunteer_now_







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Don't blame you in the least for that, Kev. As a matter of fact, I think there
are probably more than a few of us among your friends who might feel the same
about that particular event.

Dale

Hello Pauline,

Burial records were not kept by the British, the Province or the Militia
regiment.  The best you could hope for would be the church if the records still
exist.  They are pretty good for Reverend Addison who was the English Church
rector who served a broad area from Niagara to the Grand River.  Do you know the
faith of Uriah?

Uriah Pettit, as you probably know, had received land in Charlotteville Township
but also is shown as a landowner in Townsend Township.  Both were the recruiting
areas of the 2nd Regiment of Norfolk Militia.  If he died while on service it
suggests that he had volunteered for a "flank company" at the beginning of the
war  but I don't think that this was the case.  I cannot find him in the muster
rolls of the flank companies for either the 1st or 2nd Norfolk and therefore
assume that he was in the sedentary militia when he died on service on January
1, 1813. Flank companies received more training than sedentary miltiamen and
were liable for active service while the less-well trained sedentary militia, of
which all men between 16 and 60 had to be members, would only be called out in
emergencies or when additional volunteers were required for a short term
specific task.  A further study of the extant records in the National Library
and Archives might reveal this information for what it is worth.

Right after the Battle of Queenston Heights in October 1812 the 2nd Norfolk
flank company was ordered first to Chippawa and then to establish garrisons at
key points on the north shore of Lake Erie at Long Point, Dover Mills, Grand
River and Sugar Loaf Point near present-day Port Colborne.  By early November
they marched to Sugar Loaf  and were billeted near there. Some of the flank
company soldies were then sent to the Fort Erie area and were near Fort Erie on
November 28, 1812, fighting in the skirmish at Frenchman's Creek just north of
the fort.

During the period October 25 to November 24, there were 69 men of the 2nd
Norfolk on active duty but this was cut down to 42 men by December, seemingly
stationed at Sugar Loaf.  In March 1813 we find the 2nd Norfolk watching
Carter's Point near Fort Erie.

As for Uriah, it is difficult to say where he was on January 1 when he died.  He
could have volunteered for duty at Sugar Loaf or Carter's Point, caught some bug
and died while on duty.  It must have been a short illness.  Otherwise he would
have simply been sent home.  Normally, and especially during winter when bodies
could be preserved longer in the cold, such casualties of battle, accident or
disease would simply be retrieved and taken home for burial by family members. 
If not claimed by comrades in the same militia regiment and taken home or after
battle or in the heat of the summer the body would be buried in the most
convenient location--whether an official burial ground or simply on the field of
battle.  In Uriah's case, given the fact that it was January and that neither
Sugarloaf nor Carter's Point were far from Pettit's home,  I suspect that he was
taken home for burial--in the family plot most likely.

Ron Dale



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From: Pauline Grondin <spingolli@...>
To: warof1812 <warof1812@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2012 8:44 pm
Subject: 1812 Urial Pettit Sr. 2nd Norfolk Militia





I am looking for information on the burial site of Urial Pettit Sr. He was with
the 2nd Norfolk Militia and died on January 01 1813 on the Niagara Frontier.
Urial's wife applied for a pension after the war to support their son. His
father was a Loyalist. I am helping out a gentleman from the Grand River U.E.'s
Thanks, Pauline GrondinVoices of the Pastwww.paulinegrondin.com


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