I do think that the existence or lack of a state of belligerency is important. A country can do things to a belligerent that it cannot do to a neutral. In my...
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James Yaworsky
yawors1
Feb 1, 2012 11:57 am
... Yes, they are. If you go to the yahoo groups website and to the Warof1812 specific webpage, groups.yahoo.com/group/WarOf1812 you will see the archives. A...
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James Yaworsky
yawors1
Feb 1, 2012 12:15 pm
... I disagree with the comments as they apply to the necessity of a state of belligerency being required. On the high seas, there are a special set of rules....
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Ray Hobbs
dismas_3
Feb 1, 2012 2:30 pm
On behalf of Col.Williams I am instructed to forward this message to all unit commanders of the Crown Forces. Permission has been granted by the administration...
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Ian Gardner
knickerbocke...
Feb 1, 2012 4:14 pm
Desperate times call for desperate measures. If your national survival is at stake, do you think hurt feelings of a non-combatant (especially one with a weak...
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MasterAtArms
ucpm_gunner
Feb 1, 2012 5:14 pm
... " As far as I know, deserters, once recaptured, were punished but not strung up etc., even though British law would have allowed such a penalty. They were...
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James Yaworsky
yawors1
Feb 1, 2012 5:54 pm
... I guess the recaptured deserter could hope that the fleet in question was one of the smaller squadrons? ;>) I forgot about keel-hauling people too. If a...
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seascoutleader
Feb 1, 2012 6:06 pm
Ahnii my friends: Thank you Jim. *"Tecumseh's" coalition of warriors and tribes was not a cohesive entity, per se, for…* In September 1809, William Henry...
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richard lytle
richard6616
Feb 1, 2012 6:46 pm
Just out of quriosity, what actual documentation can you cite for this statement? Â "So was it "unjustified" for the British to reclaim a deserter, for...
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peter monahan
petemonahan
Feb 2, 2012 2:12 am
I guess the recaptured deserter could hope that the fleet in question was one of the smaller squadrons? ;>) I forgot about keel-hauling people too. If a ship...
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James Yaworsky
yawors1
Feb 2, 2012 2:33 am
... [snip - various claims on bogus certificates, British sailors who had one but had never stepped foot in the U.S., etc.] I thought it was common knowledge,...
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James Yaworsky
yawors1
Feb 2, 2012 2:58 am
... [snip] ... Good question. The whole subject of deserters and what they could expect if caught led me to consult Brian Laverly's "Nelson's Navy", which is...
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usmarine1814
Feb 2, 2012 3:18 am
My points in my obnoxious message were that, though many like to intimate that the US had no legitimate reason to declare war, I disagree within the context of...
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Diane Williams
diane_williams
Feb 2, 2012 3:18 am
Can one survive 300 lashes with a cat? Â ~~Diane...
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Gerard DeLos Reyes
rdelo90
Feb 2, 2012 3:51 am
I believe you maybe wrong...when the British came to take New Orleans, if they had won the Battle of New Orleans. My premise is they would've...
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Diane Williams
diane_williams
Feb 2, 2012 1:14 pm
... by the Royal Navy, 12 of whom had Certificates of American citizenship. He states that the Royal Navy took claims of American citizenship seriously and...
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usmarine1814
Feb 2, 2012 1:16 pm
There surely were bogus papers and plenty of British sailors among the American merchant and Naval fleet. Britain's right to stop merchant ships and take...
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John Matthew IV
john.matthew...
Feb 2, 2012 2:20 pm
This is the cover story of the March 2012 issue of The Walrus magazine. On their website, they have have a nice photo gallery to complement this: ...
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John Matthew IV
john.matthew...
Feb 2, 2012 2:25 pm
... Way to stick up for your ancestor, Diane! With friends like you .... John Matthew IV...
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Jim
a10rca
Feb 2, 2012 3:11 pm
Great point about language. I found an American reference (1820's) that had Lieutenant pronounced 'Leftenant'. So, if you are portraying a US Army, Marine or...
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peter monahan
petemonahan
Feb 2, 2012 3:12 pm
Can one survive 300 lashes with a cat? Good question! I recall reading the records of one of the regiments stationed here in Canada, just before 1812, I...
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peter monahan
petemonahan
Feb 2, 2012 3:12 pm
Colin Murphy wrote: The fact is that American citizens (born and naturalized) were seized. The most infamous incident, Chesapeake-Leopard, the four men taken...
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Michael Mathews
memathews...
Feb 2, 2012 3:14 pm
Wait, a Royal Navy warship put into Toulon in 1812? As a prize? Not a place you could just go in and tie up at the dock with a war on. Yes, sounds like he...
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usmarine1814
Feb 2, 2012 3:43 pm
Peter, Something to look into for sure. I am only going on what I recall. I was not sure if the one I thought did not return was hanged or died in captivity....
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usmarine1814
Feb 2, 2012 3:43 pm
There was a study done on this for the American forces. The study was published in 1940 Here is the info: Hare, John S. "Military Punishments of the War of...
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richard lytle
richard6616
Feb 2, 2012 3:44 pm
Dear List, I offer this only as a comparison example of the time and period. Over several years, I have made detailed studies of Major General Anthony...
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Kevin Windsor
kevinwindsorca
Feb 2, 2012 6:20 pm
I heard somewhere... (read somewhere? God does this mean I am getting old??) that if the soldier couldn't take all of the lashes in one go, they were given out...
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peter monahan
petemonahan
Feb 2, 2012 7:54 pm
"Eventually, those so punished were numberous enough to form the Century Club and, believe it or not, many of them even re-enlisted" I'm guessing there was no...
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Diane Williams
diane_williams
Feb 2, 2012 7:55 pm
The British occupied Toulon, France during much of the Napoleonic Wars--much to the delight of the French royalists, who'd rather have the Brits there than the...
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James Yaworsky
yawors1
Feb 2, 2012 8:41 pm
Diane: I suggest you google "seige of Toulon" and see what Wikepedia has to say. Jim Yaworsky...
