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#43658 From: "Shami" <shami1986@...>
Date: Sat Apr 9, 2011 2:09 am
Subject: 1812 coats.
shami1986
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we offer 1812 coats.
please visit our web site.

www.modernbadge.com
M.Razzaq

#43659 From: Kevin Windsor <kevin.windsor@...>
Date: Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:49 pm
Subject: RE: 1812 coats.
kevinwindsorca
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Wow you made exactly the same uniform and mannequin as Military Heritage!



http://www.militaryheritage.com/pastprojects.htm



http://www.modernbadge.com/product_details.php?rn=1644



KW





From: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shami







we offer 1812 coats.
please visit our web site.

www.modernbadge.com
M.Razzaq

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#43660 From: Craig Williams <sgtwarner@...>
Date: Sat Apr 9, 2011 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: 1812 coats.
sgtwarnersco
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Yeah... they did that a couple of times!


On 9-Apr-11, at 8:49 AM, Kevin Windsor wrote:

> Wow you made exactly the same uniform and mannequin as Military
> Heritage!
>
> http://www.militaryheritage.com/pastprojects.htm
>
> http://www.modernbadge.com/product_details.php?rn=1644
>
> KW
>
> From: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf
> Of Shami
>
> we offer 1812 coats.
> please visit our web site.
>
> www.modernbadge.com
> M.Razzaq
>
> _._,___
>
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>
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#43661 From: gary beauregard <beau@...>
Date: Sat Apr 9, 2011 11:32 am
Subject: Re: 1812 coats.
gcbussu
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I have looked in ever possible place and cannot find our old sample of the
"roundabout".

--- On Fri, 4/8/11, Shami <shami1986@...> wrote:


From: Shami <shami1986@...>
Subject: 1812 coats.
To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 10:09 PM


 



we offer 1812 coats.
please visit our web site.

www.modernbadge.com
M.Razzaq








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#43662 From: "Chris Pohlkamp" <trainwithnova@...>
Date: Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:18 am
Subject: War of 1812 School of Instruction for Officers & NCOs Of Infantry
christinepoh...
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Thank you Peter and team for a well run meeting and with lots of outdoor
time in the lovely sunshine.
The On-Gwe-Ho-Way Native Reenactors appreciate being invited to these
meetings.
If any of us took the 4 forms home by mistake, where do we send them?
(guilty as charged)

Christine Pohlkamp (Checomick)
On-Gwe-Ho-Way Native Reenactors
www.native-reenactors.ca
   



 


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#43663 From: "danieloconnell" <todanieloconnell@...>
Date: Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:47 am
Subject: Fencing/Epee Salon
britbrig8th
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I will be hosting a Fencing and Epee Salon at Fort Niagara's "Soldiers of the
Revolution" August 12-14:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=105688576178440

#43664 From: "Mark Dickerson" <mdickerson1@...>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:32 pm
Subject: FW: Question about Drill Competition
mdickerson44...
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Here are the directions with revisions.



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#43665 From: "larrylozon" <larrylozon@...>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:01 pm
Subject: Crown Naval Establishments Operations in 2011
larrylozon
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==============================
TO:

"CROWN FORCES NORTH AMERICA"

Unit Commanders,

Please inform your members

==============================
I am ordered to forward the following


                 L. Lozon  ~ AdC
==============================


Naval Establishments
Crown Forces North America

General Signal

Operations in 2011

The unexpected but unavoidable cancellation of the June School of the Sailor is
very much regretted. Boats crews and unit members of the Naval Establishments
are urged to participate in as many other events as possible to maintain
seamanship and naval re-enacting skills over 2011 in preparation for the 1812
Bicentennial, to begin in 2012..

It is noted that several member craft and crews, such as those of FERRET, will
be attending events at Port Dover and elsewhere, and this is to be commended and
encouraged.

The longboat WITCH OF A'BURG will be exercising its crew in serious
passagemaking on Lake Ontario in July from Toronto and will endeavour to carry
out a reconnaissance of the Niagara-on-the-lake shoreline and facilities in
preparation for the major naval 1812 commemorative event proposed for NOTL on
the weekend of July 14-15, 2012, in partnership with Parks Canada.

Naval Establishment long-range planning is still concentrating on the 2012 event
at Niagara-on-the-lake, centred on Navy Hall and Fort George; a 2013 event
consisting of a Thousand Island flotilla on the St Lawrence from Kingston to
Upper Canada Village/Crysler's Farm; and a 2014 Georgian Bay event linking
Discovery Harbour with Wasaga Beach, site of the `Wasaga Under Siege' event and
a planned recreation of the taking of USS SCORPION and TIGRESS by a party led by
Lt Miller Worsley, late of the schooner NANCY.

I have the Honour to be
Yours
With great Regard

Victor Suthren

#43666 From: Diane Williams <diane_williams@...>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:15 pm
Subject: Questions about War of 1812 privateers' crew and letters of marque
diane_williams
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I'm writing a screenplay about my ancestor, John P. Chazal who was a successful
American privateer that sailed from Charleston, SC, during the War of 1812. He
captained 3 ships: Mary Ann, Defiance, and the Saucy Jack.


1. Who is named on a letter of marque: the captain, the owner, or the ship? Or
all 3?
2. Was a privateer's crew set up more like a naval ship or a merchant ship. For
instance, would the first and second mate of a merchant ship be called instead
the first and second officer of a privateer? In addition to Boarding Master,
what other roles would there be on a privateer?
4. Would they wear some type of uniform? (Did U.S. merchant seamen wear
uniforms?)

I'd appreciate any information or resources for information that you all could
supply.

I'll likely be attending Privateer's Day at Fell's Point in Baltimore, MD on
April 16 and hope to get some answers there, too.

Thanks so much!

~~Diane Williams




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#43667 From: "Myron" <ructic@...>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:08 pm
Subject: Re: Questions about War of 1812 privateers' crew and letters of marque
ructic
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Ms Williams,

Be sure to speak with Steven Lampredi who will be displaying the Schooner "Lion"
at the Fells Point Preservation Society at Privateer Days.

"Lion" is a 25-ft model of a Baltimore Topsail Schooner.  The display also
includes information on Privateers and the difference between privateers and
pirates.

Myron Peterson
Ship's Company
Chesapeake Region.

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, Diane Williams <diane_williams@...> wrote:
>
> I'm writing a screenplay about my ancestor, John P. Chazal who was a
successful
> American privateer that sailed from Charleston, SC, during the War of 1812. He
> captained 3 ships: Mary Ann, Defiance, and the Saucy Jack.
>
>
> 1. Who is named on a letter of marque: the captain, the owner, or the ship? Or
> all 3?
> 2. Was a privateer's crew set up more like a naval ship or a merchant ship.
For
> instance, would the first and second mate of a merchant ship be called instead
> the first and second officer of a privateer? In addition to Boarding Master,
> what other roles would there be on a privateer?
> 4. Would they wear some type of uniform? (Did U.S. merchant seamen wear
> uniforms?)
>
> I'd appreciate any information or resources for information that you all could
> supply.
>
> I'll likely be attending Privateer's Day at Fell's Point in Baltimore, MD on
> April 16 and hope to get some answers there, too.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> ~~Diane Williams
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#43668 From: "James Yaworsky" <yawors1@...>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:08 pm
Subject: ancestor worshipper request for assistance
yawors1
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I happened upon the query that some McDonalds posted about my ggggrandfather
Donald McDonald/MacDonald/MacDonnell, and was hoping you might be able to help
us tie down his identity with a little more information that has come to light. 
It's hard to say if HE said he was a captain at Lundy's lane or whether others
confused him with another Donald McDonald who was there and WAS a captain. He
was definitely baptised catholic but was also a lifelong mason. His parents were
stated in census records to have been born in Scotland but we don't know where
(the same census said HE was born in Scotland, which he was not) He was born
either Dec 23 1788 or Jan 23 1789 in Western and/or Upper Canada, depending on
the source.  He at least FOUGHT at Lundy's Lane, and one contemporary source
described him as a "hero", another as a "splendid old soldier", and one or two
say "captain"  One person who actually knew him says that he was captured at
Lundy's Lane and came to Texas after his release, and that he went into the
battle with 80-odd men and came out with fifteen. Until the end of his life, he
maintained that the British won that battle.

He was in the Sabine River area of Texas by about 1824 running a ferry across
the Sabine River and shortly thereafter built a sawmill, indicating some
familiarity with the lumber industry (as I understand a lot of young canadian
men were).

It would be really wonderful if you could help us tie down his origins with a
little more specificity, so I'm hoping maybe this extra info might help.

Thanks for whatever you can do to help.

#43669 From: Kevin Windsor <kevin.windsor@...>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:40 pm
Subject: RE: 1812 ancestor worshipper request for assistance
kevinwindsorca
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Do you have any idea how many Donald McDonald/MacDonell there are!



I have a commission here at the Museum dated April 15, 1812 commissioning
Donald McDonell (notice the spelling) Captain in the 2nd Regiment of
Glengary Militia.  This Donald was the brother of John, who was Brock's
Provincial AdC.



The 2nd Glengary Militia was not at Lundy's Lane though.  Let me look
through the mass of names to see what, if anything, I can find.



Kevin Windsor



From: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Yaworsky
Sent: April-11-11 4:08 PM
To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
Subject: 1812 ancestor worshipper request for assistance





I happened upon the query that some McDonalds posted about my ggggrandfather
Donald McDonald/MacDonald/MacDonnell, and was hoping you might be able to
help us tie down his identity with a little more information that has come
to light. It's hard to say if HE said he was a captain at Lundy's lane or
whether others confused him with another Donald McDonald who was there and
WAS a captain. He was definitely baptised catholic but was also a lifelong
mason. His parents were stated in census records to have been born in
Scotland but we don't know where (the same census said HE was born in
Scotland, which he was not) He was born either Dec 23 1788 or Jan 23 1789 in
Western and/or Upper Canada, depending on the source. He at least FOUGHT at
Lundy's Lane, and one contemporary source described him as a "hero", another
as a "splendid old soldier", and one or two say "captain" One person who
actually knew him says that he was captured at Lundy's Lane and came to
Texas after his release, and that he went into the battle with 80-odd men
and came out with fifteen. Until the end of his life, he maintained that the
British won that battle.

He was in the Sabine River area of Texas by about 1824 running a ferry
across the Sabine River and shortly thereafter built a sawmill, indicating
some familiarity with the lumber industry (as I understand a lot of young
canadian men were).

It would be really wonderful if you could help us tie down his origins with
a little more specificity, so I'm hoping maybe this extra info might help.

Thanks for whatever you can do to help.





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#43670 From: annbwass@...
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:26 pm
Subject: Re: Questions about War of 1812 privateers' crew and letters of marque
annwass2000
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I suggest you check out the following books:
   Coggeshall, George, 1784-1861. History of the American privateers,  and
letters-of-marque, during our war with England in the years 1812, '13, and
'14. Interspersed with several naval battles between American and British
ships-of-war.

  Maclay, Edgar Stanton, 1863-1919. A history of American privateers.
Freeport, N.Y., Books for Libraries Press [1970]

Ann Wass




In a message dated 4/11/2011 2:13:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
diane_williams@... writes:




I'm writing a screenplay about my ancestor, John P. Chazal who was a
successful
American privateer that sailed from Charleston, SC, during the  War of
1812. He
captained 3 ships: Mary Ann, Defiance, and the Saucy Jack.

1. Who is named on a letter of marque: the captain, the owner, or the
ship? Or
all 3?
2. Was a privateer's crew set up more like a naval ship  or a merchant
ship. For
instance, would the first and second mate of a  merchant ship be called
instead
the first and second officer of a  privateer? In addition to Boarding
Master,
what other roles would there be  on a privateer?
4. Would they wear some type of uniform? (Did U.S. merchant  seamen wear
uniforms?)

I'd appreciate any information or resources  for information that you all
could
supply.

I'll likely be attending  Privateer's Day at Fell's Point in Baltimore, MD
on
April 16 and hope to  get some answers there, too.

Thanks so much!

~~Diane  Williams

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#43671 From: Ron <ronaldjdale@...>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:01 pm
Subject: Re: 1812 ancestor worshipper request for assistance
ronpontiac
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There were 43 Donald McDonnells (and variant spellings) who were born in
Scotland living in Glengarry County in 1851.  It would have been hard to swing a
dead cat without hitting a Donald McDonnell in this sparsely inhabited county. 
Quite a genealogical challenge!  Finding the one who was at Lundy's Lane may not
be difficult but finding out anything more about him may be confused in the
plethora of Macdonnells.

The born in Upper Canada or Western Canada is easier to rectify.  Upper Canada
became Canada West.

Good luck to them!

Ron




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#43672 From: Diane Williams <diane_williams@...>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: Questions about War of 1812 privateers' crew and letters of marque
diane_williams
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Thanks. I have his card from last year somewhere. I'll have to go up there just
to see him again. Hard to do with bad arthritis in my knees. I hope the weather
holds.

  ~~Diane




________________________________
From: Myron <ructic@...>
To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 3:08:16 PM
Subject: Re: Questions about War of 1812 privateers' crew and letters of marque


Ms Williams,

Be sure to speak with Steven Lampredi who will be displaying the Schooner "Lion"
at the Fells Point Preservation Society at Privateer Days.

"Lion" is a 25-ft model of a Baltimore Topsail Schooner.  The display also
includes information on Privateers and the difference between privateers and
pirates.

Myron Peterson
Ship's Company
Chesapeake Region.

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, Diane Williams <diane_williams@...> wrote:
>
> I'm writing a screenplay about my ancestor, John P. Chazal who was a
successful
>
> American privateer that sailed from Charleston, SC, during the War of 1812. He

> captained 3 ships: Mary Ann, Defiance, and the Saucy Jack.
>
>
> 1. Who is named on a letter of marque: the captain, the owner, or the ship? Or

> all 3?
> 2. Was a privateer's crew set up more like a naval ship or a merchant ship.
For
>
> instance, would the first and second mate of a merchant ship be called instead

> the first and second officer of a privateer? In addition to Boarding Master,
> what other roles would there be on a privateer?
> 4. Would they wear some type of uniform? (Did U.S. merchant seamen wear
> uniforms?)
>
> I'd appreciate any information or resources for information that you all could

> supply.
>
> I'll likely be attending Privateer's Day at Fell's Point in Baltimore, MD on
> April 16 and hope to get some answers there, too.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> ~~Diane Williams
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







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#43673 From: Diane Williams <diane_williams@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:07 am
Subject: Re: Questions about War of 1812 privateers' crew and letters of marque
diane_williams
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I have both, thanks.

~~Diane

On Apr 11, 2011, at 6:26 PM, annbwass@... wrote:

> I suggest you check out the following books:
> Coggeshall, George, 1784-1861. History of the American privateers, and
> letters-of-marque, during our war with England in the years 1812, '13, and
> '14. Interspersed with several naval battles between American and British
> ships-of-war.
>
> Maclay, Edgar Stanton, 1863-1919. A history of American privateers.
> Freeport, N.Y., Books for Libraries Press [1970]
>
> Ann Wass
>
> In a message dated 4/11/2011 2:13:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> diane_williams@... writes:
>
> I'm writing a screenplay about my ancestor, John P. Chazal who was a
> successful
> American privateer that sailed from Charleston, SC, during the War of
> 1812. He
> captained 3 ships: Mary Ann, Defiance, and the Saucy Jack.
>
> 1. Who is named on a letter of marque: the captain, the owner, or the
> ship? Or
> all 3?
> 2. Was a privateer's crew set up more like a naval ship or a merchant
> ship. For
> instance, would the first and second mate of a merchant ship be called
> instead
> the first and second officer of a privateer? In addition to Boarding
> Master,
> what other roles would there be on a privateer?
> 4. Would they wear some type of uniform? (Did U.S. merchant seamen wear
> uniforms?)
>
> I'd appreciate any information or resources for information that you all
> could
> supply.
>
> I'll likely be attending Privateer's Day at Fell's Point in Baltimore, MD
> on
> April 16 and hope to get some answers there, too.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> ~~Diane Williams
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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#43674 From: "James Yaworsky" <yawors1@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:28 am
Subject: Re: 1812 ancestor worshipper request for assistance
yawors1
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I should have made it clear that the "ancestor worshipper" is not myself.  I
just cut and pasted in a query that I received off-list.  I believe the person
concerned is a Texan...  As far as I can tell from checking our membership
rolls, this individual is not a member of this group.

Jim Yaworsky

#43675 From: annbwass@...
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:07 pm
Subject: Re: Questions about War of 1812 privateers' crew and letters of marque
annwass2000
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Good--I thought Maclay would have answered some of your questions, if I'm
remembering correctly.

Ann Wass


In a message dated 4/11/2011 8:24:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
diane_williams@... writes:




I have both, thanks.

~~Diane

On Apr 11, 2011, at 6:26 PM, _annbwass@..._ (mailto:annbwass@...)
wrote:

> I  suggest you check out the following books:
> Coggeshall, George,  1784-1861. History of the American privateers, and
> letters-of-marque,  during our war with England in the years 1812, '13,
and
> '14.  Interspersed with several naval battles between American and
British
>  ships-of-war.
>
> Maclay, Edgar Stanton, 1863-1919. A history of  American privateers.
> Freeport, N.Y., Books for Libraries Press  [1970]
>
> Ann Wass
>
> In a message dated 4/11/2011  2:13:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> _diane_williams@..._ (mailto:diane_williams@...)   writes:
>
> I'm writing a screenplay about my ancestor, John P.  Chazal who was a
> successful
> American privateer that sailed  from Charleston, SC, during the War of
> 1812. He
> captained 3  ships: Mary Ann, Defiance, and the Saucy Jack.
>
> 1. Who is  named on a letter of marque: the captain, the owner, or the
> ship? Or
> all 3?
> 2. Was a privateer's crew set up more like a naval  ship or a merchant
> ship. For
> instance, would the first and  second mate of a merchant ship be called
> instead
> the first  and second officer of a privateer? In addition to Boarding
> Master,
> what other roles would there be on a privateer?
> 4. Would they  wear some type of uniform? (Did U.S. merchant seamen wear
>  uniforms?)
>
> I'd appreciate any information or resources for  information that you all
> could
> supply.
>
> I'll  likely be attending Privateer's Day at Fell's Point in Baltimore,
MD
>  on
> April 16 and hope to get some answers there, too.
>
>  Thanks so much!
>
> ~~Diane Williams
>
> [Non-text  portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text  portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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#43676 From: Tim Pickles <BritcomHMP@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:17 am
Subject: Re: Questions about War of 1812 privateers' crew and letters of marque
timpickles
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The owner or controller of the ship would be named and they sailed as part of
his 'fleet' to be covered by them though it was unusual to have more than one
ship it was certainly not unknown.


They had no uniform as such though some had distinctive marks (Jean Lafitte's
men were known for wearing red shirts) and had whatever organization they
thought best. The important thing was that for the letters to be in effect the
ship had to sail under the colours of the country which grated them the letters,
otherwise they could be considered pirates. For this reason Lafitte insisted
that his ships sail under the flag of the revolutionary government of Cartegena,
anyone with letters from the US government would sail under the stars and
stripes to be legal.


Aye


Tim





-----Original Message-----
From: Diane Williams <diane_williams@...>
To: WarOf1812 <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 11, 2011 9:13 am
Subject: Questions about War of 1812 privateers' crew and letters of marque





I'm writing a screenplay about my ancestor, John P. Chazal who was a successful
American privateer that sailed from Charleston, SC, during the War of 1812. He
captained 3 ships: Mary Ann, Defiance, and the Saucy Jack.

1. Who is named on a letter of marque: the captain, the owner, or the ship? Or
all 3?
2. Was a privateer's crew set up more like a naval ship or a merchant ship. For
instance, would the first and second mate of a merchant ship be called instead
the first and second officer of a privateer? In addition to Boarding Master,
what other roles would there be on a privateer?
4. Would they wear some type of uniform? (Did U.S. merchant seamen wear
uniforms?)

I'd appreciate any information or resources for information that you all could
supply.

I'll likely be attending Privateer's Day at Fell's Point in Baltimore, MD on
April 16 and hope to get some answers there, too.

Thanks so much!

~~Diane Williams

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#43677 From: "usmarine1814" <usmarine1814@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:34 pm
Subject: Barney's Bullet
usmarine1814
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Greeting all
I just found online, a digitized book, with a picture of the ball received at
Bladensburg taken from Barney's leg upon his death.  The book states it is in
the possession of his family.  The book was published a as genealogical book by
his family in 1912.  Does anyone know if this bullet is still out there
somewhere or even if the story is true?

YHOS

Colin Murphy
USCON 1812 MG
USMCHC

#43678 From: Ron <ronaldjdale@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: 1812 Barney's Bullet
ronpontiac
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I take it that this was Commodore Joshua Barney and not Fred Flintstone's best
friend??



Ron


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#43679 From: Craig Williams <sgtwarner@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: 1812 Barney's Bullet
sgtwarnersco
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Or the dreaded purple dinosaur?


On 12-Apr-11, at 9:46 AM, Ron wrote:

>
> I take it that this was Commodore Joshua Barney and not Fred
> Flintstone's best friend??
>
> Ron
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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#43680 From: "Tom Hurlbut" <hurlbut8646@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:46 pm
Subject: RE: 1812 Barney's Bullet
lakesimcoesq...
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"I hate you, you hate me,

We're a dysfunctional family,

And a shot rings out and Barney hits the floor,

No more purple dinosaur."


Oh I just KILL me!

"Commander" Tom

#43681 From: peter monahan <petemonahan@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:56 pm
Subject: RE: 1812 Barney's Bullet
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You guys need to get out more!


Peter Monahan
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> To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
> From: hurlbut8646@...
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:46:35 -0400
> Subject: RE: 1812 Barney's Bullet
>
> "I hate you, you hate me,
>
> We're a dysfunctional family,
>
> And a shot rings out and Barney hits the floor,
>
> No more purple dinosaur."
>
>
> Oh I just KILL me!
>
> "Commander" Tom
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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> A wide-ranging information exchange
> for all participants and supporters
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#43682 From: "Tom Hurlbut" <hurlbut8646@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:01 pm
Subject: RE: 1812 Barney's Bullet
lakesimcoesq...
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Indeed..



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You guys need to get out more!

Peter Monahan





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#43683 From: Diane Williams <diane_williams@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: Questions about War of 1812 privateers' crew and letters of marque
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Thanks, Tim. I figured I'd have a lot of wiggle room when it comes to describing
their attire when necessary.

  ~~Diane




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From: Tim Pickles <BritcomHMP@...>
To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 7:17:21 AM
Subject: Re: Questions about War of 1812 privateers' crew and letters of marque


The owner or controller of the ship would be named and they sailed as part of
his 'fleet' to be covered by them though it was unusual to have more than one
ship it was certainly not unknown.

They had no uniform as such though some had distinctive marks (Jean Lafitte's
men were known for wearing red shirts) and had whatever organization they
thought best. The important thing was that for the letters to be in effect the
ship had to sail under the colours of the country which grated them the letters,
otherwise they could be considered pirates. For this reason Lafitte insisted
that his ships sail under the flag of the revolutionary government of Cartegena,
anyone with letters from the US government would sail under the stars and
stripes to be legal.

Aye

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Diane Williams <diane_williams@...>
To: WarOf1812 <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 11, 2011 9:13 am
Subject: Questions about War of 1812 privateers' crew and letters of marque

I'm writing a screenplay about my ancestor, John P. Chazal who was a successful
American privateer that sailed from Charleston, SC, during the War of 1812. He
captained 3 ships: Mary Ann, Defiance, and the Saucy Jack.

1. Who is named on a letter of marque: the captain, the owner, or the ship? Or
all 3?
2. Was a privateer's crew set up more like a naval ship or a merchant ship. For
instance, would the first and second mate of a merchant ship be called instead
the first and second officer of a privateer? In addition to Boarding Master,
what other roles would there be on a privateer?
4. Would they wear some type of uniform? (Did U.S. merchant seamen wear
uniforms?)

I'd appreciate any information or resources for information that you all could
supply.

I'll likely be attending Privateer's Day at Fell's Point in Baltimore, MD on
April 16 and hope to get some answers there, too.

Thanks so much!

~~Diane Williams

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#43684 From: "johnjogden@..." <johnjogden@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:56 pm
Subject: RE: 1812 Barney's Bullet
johnogden2001
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I can top this in terms of inappropriate variants, but some semblance of taste
prevents me...



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You guys need to get out more!



Peter Monahan

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> To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com

> From: hurlbut8646@...

> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:46:35 -0400

> Subject: RE: 1812 Barney's Bullet

>

> "I hate you, you hate me,

>

> We're a dysfunctional family,

>

> And a shot rings out and Barney hits the floor,

>

> No more purple dinosaur."

>

>

> Oh I just KILL me!

>

> "Commander" Tom

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> War of 1812 Living History:

> A wide-ranging information exchange

> for all participants and supporters

>

>

> Unit Contact information for North America:

> Crown Forces Unit Listing:

> http://1812crownforces.tripod.com

> American Forces Unit Listing

> http://usforces1812.tripod.com

>

> WAR OF 1812 EVENTS LIST:

> http://royal.scots.tripod.com/warof1812eventslist

> 2010Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>





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#43685 From: HAROLD DENNISON <hdennison@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:28 pm
Subject: RE: 1812 Barney's Bullet
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I'm not sure "that's" such a good idea!?!?    :)


Hal Dennison
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--- On Tue, 4/12/11, peter monahan <petemonahan@...> wrote:


From: peter monahan <petemonahan@...>
Subject: RE: 1812 Barney's Bullet
To: warof1812@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 10:56 AM


 




You guys need to get out more!

Peter Monahan
petemonahan@...
705-435-0953h / 705-792-8995c

> To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
> From: hurlbut8646@...
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:46:35 -0400
> Subject: RE: 1812 Barney's Bullet
>
> "I hate you, you hate me,
>
> We're a dysfunctional family,
>
> And a shot rings out and Barney hits the floor,
>
> No more purple dinosaur."
>
>
> Oh I just KILL me!
>
> "Commander" Tom
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> War of 1812 Living History:
> A wide-ranging information exchange
> for all participants and supporters
>
>
> Unit Contact information for North America:
> Crown Forces Unit Listing:
> http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
> American Forces Unit Listing
> http://usforces1812.tripod.com
>
> WAR OF 1812 EVENTS LIST:
> http://royal.scots.tripod.com/warof1812eventslist
> 2010Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


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#43686 From: "rotmistrzb" <orlirva@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:36 pm
Subject: Virgina Militia
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our new group, getting ready for a first event this fall.
http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/VaArtillery1812.html

#43688 From: "David Brunelle" <davidbrunelle@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:59 pm
Subject: FW: Wasaga under Siege 2011 - Updates
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Wasaga under Siege - "A War of 1812 Experience"

July 22nd, 23rd, 24th /2011

2011 Highlights



.        Nancy Island Historic Site New Welcome Centre.

.        Website Update

.        Battle Location Changes

.        River Run Event - Looking for Boats, Canoes & Participants.

.        New Coordinator of Naval Activities

.        Book Releases and Singings

.        Invitation to Tea



Hi Everyone,



Just a quick reminder that Wasaga under Siege "A War of 1812 Experience" is
approaching fast.   Please review the information that has been provided and
if you have not registered yet I encourage you all to do so ASAP.  Visit our
website at  <http://www.wasagaundersiege1812.com>
www.wasagaundersiege1812.com .  There are also some changes and new things
happening this year and if you have any questions please let me know.

           Building on the huge success of past Wasaga under Siege events,
the Historic Military Establishment of Upper Canada in partnership with the
Town of Wasaga Beach, Ontario Parks and Nancy Island Historic Site look
forward to hosting you once again from July 22nd to the 24th/2011. Wasaga
under Siege "A War of 1812 Experience" will once again come to life as over
300 re-enactors will take part echoing history once again through the
streets and waters of Wasaga Beach and Nancy Island Historic Site.

           We have put together a great weekend for re-enactors and
spectators alike!  Re-enactors will enjoy a safe Grand Encampment area on
Historic Nancy Island, water, food, entertainment, drinks, souvenir and 4
battles scenarios.  We will be using all our talents and proven Wasaga under
Siege 1812 hospitality to make sure all re-enactors & participants feel
welcomed and satisfied that it was worth the trip.

           All re-enactors who portray any aspect of the War of 1812 are
welcomed to participate.  They can include - British and American Regulars
or Militia, Navy Personnel, Cannon Crews, Natives, Voyageurs and Men, Women
& Children civilians.  Re-enactors who wish to bring cannons, bateaus and
canoes can negotiate with me for travel, haulage or powder compensation.
Merchants, blanket traders and artisans are welcomed to attend free of
charge.

           Sunday morning will also feature the Redcoat Iron-man and
Iron-women contest that has proven to be a popular event not only to
participate in, but to watch as well, with prizes going out to the winners.

             If you are registering on-line please register individually or
as an immediate family unit.  No group registrations will be accepted unless
pre-approved.  This gives us a more accurate numbers for logistics, food and
actual people attending and camping on the island.



New Welcome Centre - Nancy Island Welcome Centre



Ontario Parks is excited to announce that Nancy Island Historic Site will
have a brand new 3000+ square foot Welcome Centre opening this summer. This
new building will become a focal point for Wasaga Beach Provincial Park and
certainly help draw visitors to Nancy Island as we gear up for the
bicentennial.

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Website Update



We have changed the format of our website and we are still working on some
of the pages and critiquing its overall look and appearance.  If you are
having any difficulties looking for information while on the site please
feel free to contact me anytime for help.



Change in Battlefield Location



The two long walks to the battlefield in beach area one on Saturday is now a
thing of the past!  Starting this year all battles will take place in beach
area two just across the street from Nancy Island Historic Site.  The
battleground will be expanded to include the main beach area and the naval
component will now be moved out of the river to the Georgian Bay side.



Re-enactment of the Relief of Mackinac 1814

1814, February to April - Relief of Mackinac

Six officers and 130 men of the RNR (virtually all who remained fit for
service) accompanied by 11 artillerymen, and a naval party of 21, marched
overland with supplies during the winter from Kingston to the Nottawasaga
River.  Moving to re-supply the starving garrison at Mackinac, in a
remarkable operation that demonstrated their capability and determination
both ashore, and on the water, they felled trees to build 29 bateaux, and
then rowed from the Nottawasaga River across Lake Huron to the fort at
Mackinac (some 360 miles) losing only one boat crushed in the ice choked
waters.



Nottawasaga River - Edenvale, ON (Glengarry Landing) to the mouth of the
Nottawasaga River (Nancy Island Historic Site) - 25 - 30 km River Run

Friday, July 22nd - Starting at 9:00am to 1:00pm - Edenvale to Jacks Lake

Saturday, July 23rd - Starting at 9:00am to 1:00pm - Jacks Lake to Nancy
Island

Wasaga under Siege 2011 is excited to announce that a re-enactment of a
portion of the Relief of Michilimackinac, February to April 1814 will be
added to the list of great activities taking place in 2011.   The Upper
Nottawasaga River is basically the same way it looked like in 1814 and is a
great opportunity for those hearty re-enactors to experience the environment
and hardships soldiers and sailors experienced firsthand on this historical
journey.  This river excursion will not be a leisurely float down the river
as all participants will be expected to pull their weight on an oar,
potentially cut paths through fallen trees and log jams and getting your
feet wet as low fast running water may dictate guiding the boat by hand and
feet.

           For those re-enactors who would like to get some real first hand
river negotiating experience this is your opportunity.  To date we have
three bateaux that have confirmed to take part in this great historical
re-enactment and we are looking for more boats and crews to take part.  We
are also looking for voyageur canoes and crews to take part in this great
event as well.  If you or your group is interested in participating as many
boats/canoes will need extra rowers and crew, please contact me anytime at
<mailto:wasagaundersiege1812@...> wasagaundersiege1812@....
More information will be forthcoming as we confirm the river schedule and
boats attending.



New Coordinator of Naval Activities



I'm happy to announce that the Penetanguishene Ship's Company has
volunteered to take over the coordination of naval activities during the
battle scenarios.  They have some great ideas to help enhance the naval
activities and will be in contact with all the naval units participating in
this year's event for input and feedback.  If you are bringing a boat or
canoe to the event I encourage you to contact the Penetanguishene Ship's
Company at



Book Releases & Signings



Brock's Agent - Tom Taylor



             It's the eve of the War of 1812, and the United States is aiming
to seize British North America. Thomas Jefferson declares that it will be a
"mere matter of marching," but he hadn't counted on British Major General
Isaac Brock. While Britain battles Napoleon in Europe and considers
abandoning Upper Canada altogether, Brock begins forging the province into a
fighting force and in the process engages the services of a young secret
agent.

           After witnessing the Battle of Tippecanoe, Jonathan Westlake, a
young man "ready to make his mark," returns to the town of York [now
Toronto] from a fur trading expedition bringing hard intelligence of the
American preparations for war. Intervening in a scuffle to save a young
woman's life, he appears to have unwittingly killed her stepfather. To
escape arrest for murder, Westlake is now forced to join the British Army
and pose as a fur trader while undertaking a vital secret mission for
General Brock.

In a frantic search for the girl he rescued, down Georgian Bay to Fort
Detroit, Westlake discovers treachery in his own family circle. But his
friends, a French Canadian named, Danny Lapointe, and a Shawnee Indian
called Paxinos, will stand by him in a clash that may cost all of them their
lives.

As nations and men battle for military supremacy in North America, these
principal characters will fight to the death over love, independence, and a
fortune in furs.

Tom Taylor will be present during Wasaga under Siege 2011 to answer
questions, sign copies of his book and read passages.  For more information
contact: Tom Taylor at: tom_taylor@...



Searching for the Forgotten War 1812

Patrick Richard Carstens & Timothy L. Sanford



The forgotten war started out with an American invasion of what is now
Canada and ended with a British invasion of the United States, neither one
successful. The vast majority of the books telling the story of the War of
1812, are often told chronologically, the events leading to this war, the
battles and aftermath or the biographies of the leaders on both side of the
conflict.

           The book "Searching for the Forgotten War 1812" unfolds
geographically as told in two volumes (Canada- 21 chapters- USA -35
chapters) and tells the story of the war using what can be found today in
both the Canada and the United States. With the use of photography and
directions to find the historical markers, plaques, monuments, gravestones,
graveyards, battlefields, fortified locations, naval battles on the Great
Lakes and the Oceans of the world to tell the stories behind the historical
evidence in what was British North America and the United States in 1812.
The vast majority of the location can be found along the United States
borders with Upper (Ontario) and Lower (Quebec) Canada, New Brunswick, Nova
Scotia, and the British Colony of Newfoundland in what is Canada today, and
in the United States original colonies, territories and emerging states
along the Mississippi River to the Atlantic Ocean.

           Each chapter deals with the war in different geographical areas of
North American and their  involvement, either as a contributor or direct
involvement in the battles fought. Political turmoil is not overlooked and
its roll in the eventual outcome of this war. The war itself proved nothing.
The aftermath created positives that both Americans and Canadians enjoy
today, without knowing the role the War of 1812 played.

           The book is enhanced by the use of sketches by Benson Lossing, a
nineteenth century history who traveled extensively and captured with pencil
and paper the remains of the war, fifty years after the fact. The battle
scenes are brought to life with the artistic impressions by modern artist
and those of period renditions of the battles available in many Archives and
in Public Domain today.  Within the covers of these books the reader will
have access to seven appendices (Chronology, Biographies, Treaties,
Nineteenth Century Weapons, Battle Sites, Bibliography and Reference Index)
to help the reader to understanding this war. Two appendices, biographies of
key to relatively unknown individuals who fought and in some cased died in
War of 1812, and the weapons and military terminologies in use during this
war are given the attention it deserves to understand the people, offensive
and defensive strategies used by both sides in this conflict.



Patrick Richard Carstens & Timothy L. Sanford will be present during Wasaga
under Siege 2011 to answer questions, sign copies of their book and read
passages.  For more information contact Patrick R. Cartens at:
patrick.carstens2@...



Invitation to Tea


Wasaga under Siege 2011 invites the ladies & gentlemen of the Nancy Island
Historic Site Grand Encampment to take tea on Saturday, July 23rs in the
hospitality tent hosted by the ladies of the Incorporated Militia of Upper
Canada.  Please bring your own tea cup, plate, spoon and chair.  To satisfy
the appetites of our guests, we shall be serving treats from the Georgian
Period, baked by the finest camp followers of the Incorporated Militia of
Upper Canada.  The afternoon will also include presentations and discussions
on various topics.

"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the
ceremony known as afternoon tea."
(Henry James)







David  J. Brunelle, OCT

Project Director

Southern Georgian Bay

War of  1812 Bicentennial Committee

705-716-7124

www.1812bicentennial.com

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