According to the latest, and best book, THE PIRATES LAFFITE by
William C. Davis, there is no indication, after searching the
records, that the Laffites ever held a Cartegena Letter of Marque!

YH&OS
Ted Yeatman


--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, annbwass@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 7/7/2006 1:45:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> johnjogden@... writes:
>
> Lafitte's letters of
> marque came from Cartagena (modern Colombia),  which was then in
the process
> of securing its independence from Spain. That  independence
(read "national
> sovreignty") had not yet been recognized by  Spain, Britain nor
the United
> States.
>
>
> Thanks.  I couldn't remember the particulars. That is why I said
his  letters
> were "dubious."
>
> Ann Wass
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Rumor had it that the LIFE GUARD had folded and gone into Rev. War.
The web site vanished some time ago. It had some good material on
it. Glad to hear they are apparently still around.

As for CW war events, ever walked through an "authentic" camp where
folks were watching a portable battery powered TV at night? Too
many "Mastercard Farbs".

YH&OS
Ted Yeatman
Fell's Point Rifles

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie McCulloh"
<moosenmoo35244@...> wrote:
>
> I'm located down on the coast at Daphne Alabama which is across
the
> bay from Mobile, so I'll post a narrative of what I know is going
on
> for the AL/MS Gulf Coast area.
> Before I start I will say that yes, Civil War is the big draw down
> here and yes, the majority of the 1812 participants were CW
> reenactors. I have been reenacting for twelve years and doing
> RW/1812 for six. For me personally, I reached an epiphany when at
a
> CW reenactment I was camped next to a man who belonged to no unit
> and was dressed as Nathan Bedford Forrest. I acknowledged his
> impression and then he loftily informed me that HE WAS Nathan
> Bedford Forrest. Shortly thereafter I began researching and
> participating in Colonial and 1812 events.
> The most striking thing about the Creek War and the events on the
> coast is that the general public has so little knowledge of these
> events. They have vaguely heard of Horseshoe Bend and Ft.
Mims….the
> Battle of New Orleans being the one touch stone that is commonly
> grasped. As a result of a number of factors there is a loose
> informal confederation of 1812 reenactors sprinkled among the
> coastal Gulf States.
>
> I belong to the "Jackson's Lifeguard" which was a nickname given
to
> Captain Deaderick's Company of Artillery of TN militia. We portray
> the unit with the aid of a 3 lb. cannon and limber. The group is
> helmed by Mark Hubbs from the Huntsville AL area and our group can
> muster as many as 12 if the forces of the cosmos are aligned. We
> also do a generic TN Militia impression when needed.
>
> Some of the events that we try to support every year:
>
> Chalmette-Battle of NO                January
> Battle of Horseshoe Bend              March
> Ft. Mims                              August (and Hell yes it's
hot)
> Ft. Jackson                           November
>
>
> I also belong to a group that is in the process of reconfiguring
> here on the Gulf Coast. It is the 4th Foot (the King's Own) and at
> our spring muster held at Ft. Gaines we had 10 members present.
The
> group is helmed by Donald Blackmon. Health issues have forced us
to
> alter schedules but we hope to be more fully engaged soon. We are
> currently finalizing kits and hope to be ready for the field
> presently. Outstanding issues are our composite order for Shakos
and
> belt plates.
>
> Ove Jensen, who is a Park Ranger at Horseshoe Bend has put
together
> a group that regularly does interpretation at HSB and will travel
to
> other period NPS sites to lend a hand. They previously did Regular
> (39th INF) but have switched to TN militia for their primary
> impression. This is an excellent group of about 8-10 and they have
> the capability of Artillery also.
>
> Steve Thomas, who is located in Fairhope AL is a member of Steve
> Abolts 7th Infantry but he also is very involved in helping
historic
> sites on the coast do Historical Interpretation. Steve can, and it
> seems on a moments notice, put together programs for sites that
> range from 1812 militia or US Regular to British/Spanish colonial.
> His capabilities also include 1820's-30's US Regulars and Rev War
> period. Steve draws on a loose confederation of reenactors here
> along the coast and we can usually generate 6-12 for site specific
> programs.
>
> Then, of course, you have the usual suspects; Steve Abolt, Tim
> Pickles, etc. who can probably point you toward even more Southern
> resources. I always make a point of attending anything that Steve
A.
> is involved in as his knowledge of the period is always
informative.
>
>
> Charlie McCulloh
> Jackson's Lifeguard
>
>
>
>
> --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "tedyeat" <tedyeat@> wrote:
> >
> > There is a Tenn. Militia group in the Wetumpka, Al. area that
does
> > events in and around Ft. Jackson, AL. Can put you in touch if
> > interested. They do the event at New Orleans too.
> >
> > YH&OS
> > Ted Yeatman
> > Fell's Point Rifles
> > 1st Md. Rifle BN.
> >
> > --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "John E. Hesselberg"
> > <bravojeh@> wrote:
> > >
> > > John,
> > > regarding your question as to what units and events there are
in
> > the
> > > south. Very little on both counts. January is the month set
for
> > the
> > > Battle of  New Orleans, and March is an event "Horsehsoe Bend"
> (I
> > > think) Dealing with Jackson's Creek War capmpaign in Alabama.
> > > Due to Katrina things are a bit skewed on the event in NEw
> > Orleans.
> > > We used to have the living history portion on Jean Lafite
> NAtional
> > > Park but with the flooding I have not spoken to or been in
> contact
> > > with any of the park peoiple since right before the storm. The
> > Park
> > > is in the city of Chalmette (Which was under 14 feet of water
> for
> > a
> > > long time.)
> > > The actual reenactment of the night battle of the 23rd of
> December
> > > was usually held at the city park in Chalmete (I forget the
> name)
> > > and it was part of the original battle field. The city of
> Chalmete
> > > sponsored the event Reenactors were shuttled from the park to
> the
> > > convention center and were fed brakfast afterwards the
> > > battle/skirmish would occur. Then everyone ws bussed to the
park
> > and
> > > the living history event would start.
> > > Horseshoe Bend is a state part and they put on a skirmish
event
> > > there. I've never been and the last three times I've planned
on
> > > going something always came up.
> > >
> > > Units in the area...There are few as you can immagine due to
the
> > > Civil War being the biggest "Thing" around here. (It's still
> being
> > > fought in some places down here)
> > > British units the 4th  and the 43rd are somewhat local. The
4th
> > has
> > > members in LA. MS. and AL. and probably only 4 active members
> (I'm
> > > not sure so I don't want to be accused of telling stories)the
> 43rd
> > > has members in MS. and Tx. We're five members I'm the so
called
> > unit
> > > commander (Probably instigator)
> > > US units, there are few members of the 7th US and 4th US in
the
> > area
> > > AL. and MS. I really don't see much of them unless it's at an
> > event
> > > or time line gig.
> > >
> > > I am sponsoring an 1812 event in December near Natchez MS. on
> > > December 3rd of this year. I don't know who or how many folks
> will
> > > show up so far I've onl;y gotten one response. There will be
no
> > > uniformed British at that event as the British were still
> sailing
> > > towards New Orleans.
> > >
> > > The Battle of New Orleans I assume will occure in January 2007
> and
> > > your best bet would be to contact the Battle of New Orleans
> group
> > in
> > > yahoo, Steve Abolt, Tim Pickles, or some of your Buds.
> > >  I hope this helps!
> > >  John H
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

Hi,

My name is John. I am a Native reenactor and trying to get hold of the folks
that run this
event. I want to see if they will allow Natives on site---Thanks

All-
      Well, all that being established, "pirate" and "piracy" seem to be the
legally correct technical terms.  Even so, I stand by my "pre-emptive
salvage" comment.


On 7/7/06, tedyeat <tedyeat@...> wrote:
>
>    According to the latest, and best book, THE PIRATES LAFFITE by
> William C. Davis, there is no indication, after searching the
> records, that the Laffites ever held a Cartegena Letter of Marque!
>
> YH&OS
> Ted Yeatman
>
>
> --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com <WarOf1812%40yahoogroups.com>,
> annbwass@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 7/7/2006 1:45:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > johnjogden@... writes:
> >
> > Lafitte's letters of
> > marque came from Cartagena (modern Colombia), which was then in
> the process
> > of securing its independence from Spain. That independence
> (read "national
> > sovreignty") had not yet been recognized by Spain, Britain nor
> the United
> > States.
> >
> >
> > Thanks. I couldn't remember the particulars. That is why I said
> his letters
> > were "dubious."
> >
> > Ann Wass
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>



--
Fortuna audentes favorit.
("Fortune favors the bold.")


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

All-
      My thanks for the input.  As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am a
veteran reenactor of the French & Indian War (currently living in Pittsburgh
PA), and I was mortified at the thought of having to trade in the firelock
for something that uses a percussion cap if I wanted to keep reenacting.
While I have nothing against reenacting the War Between the States *per se*,
I feel it might not go well for reasons pertaining to my personal life.  The
domestic partner, whose attendance of an MFA program at UNO necessitates
this move, is a woman of color, which might not sit well with some parties
in an ACW encampment.  It once caused some stress in regards to an 18th
century event up this way, I'd rather not go looking for grief.

Your servant,
     John Ogden

On 7/7/06, tedyeat <tedyeat@...> wrote:
>
>    Rumor had it that the LIFE GUARD had folded and gone into Rev. War.
> The web site vanished some time ago. It had some good material on
> it. Glad to hear they are apparently still around.
>
> As for CW war events, ever walked through an "authentic" camp where
> folks were watching a portable battery powered TV at night? Too
> many "Mastercard Farbs".
>
> YH&OS
> Ted Yeatman
> Fell's Point Rifles
>
> --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com <WarOf1812%40yahoogroups.com>, "Charlie
> McCulloh"
> <moosenmoo35244@...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm located down on the coast at Daphne Alabama which is across
> the
> > bay from Mobile, so I'll post a narrative of what I know is going
> on
> > for the AL/MS Gulf Coast area.
> > Before I start I will say that yes, Civil War is the big draw down
> > here and yes, the majority of the 1812 participants were CW
> > reenactors. I have been reenacting for twelve years and doing
> > RW/1812 for six. For me personally, I reached an epiphany when at
> a
> > CW reenactment I was camped next to a man who belonged to no unit
> > and was dressed as Nathan Bedford Forrest. I acknowledged his
> > impression and then he loftily informed me that HE WAS Nathan
> > Bedford Forrest. Shortly thereafter I began researching and
> > participating in Colonial and 1812 events.
> > The most striking thing about the Creek War and the events on the
> > coast is that the general public has so little knowledge of these
> > events. They have vaguely heard of Horseshoe Bend and Ft.
> Mims….the
> > Battle of New Orleans being the one touch stone that is commonly
> > grasped. As a result of a number of factors there is a loose
> > informal confederation of 1812 reenactors sprinkled among the
> > coastal Gulf States.
> >
> > I belong to the "Jackson's Lifeguard" which was a nickname given
> to
> > Captain Deaderick's Company of Artillery of TN militia. We portray
> > the unit with the aid of a 3 lb. cannon and limber. The group is
> > helmed by Mark Hubbs from the Huntsville AL area and our group can
> > muster as many as 12 if the forces of the cosmos are aligned. We
> > also do a generic TN Militia impression when needed.
> >
> > Some of the events that we try to support every year:
> >
> > Chalmette-Battle of NO January
> > Battle of Horseshoe Bend March
> > Ft. Mims August (and Hell yes it's
> hot)
> > Ft. Jackson November
> >
> >
> > I also belong to a group that is in the process of reconfiguring
> > here on the Gulf Coast. It is the 4th Foot (the King's Own) and at
> > our spring muster held at Ft. Gaines we had 10 members present.
> The
> > group is helmed by Donald Blackmon. Health issues have forced us
> to
> > alter schedules but we hope to be more fully engaged soon. We are
> > currently finalizing kits and hope to be ready for the field
> > presently. Outstanding issues are our composite order for Shakos
> and
> > belt plates.
> >
> > Ove Jensen, who is a Park Ranger at Horseshoe Bend has put
> together
> > a group that regularly does interpretation at HSB and will travel
> to
> > other period NPS sites to lend a hand. They previously did Regular
> > (39th INF) but have switched to TN militia for their primary
> > impression. This is an excellent group of about 8-10 and they have
> > the capability of Artillery also.
> >
> > Steve Thomas, who is located in Fairhope AL is a member of Steve
> > Abolts 7th Infantry but he also is very involved in helping
> historic
> > sites on the coast do Historical Interpretation. Steve can, and it
> > seems on a moments notice, put together programs for sites that
> > range from 1812 militia or US Regular to British/Spanish colonial.
> > His capabilities also include 1820's-30's US Regulars and Rev War
> > period. Steve draws on a loose confederation of reenactors here
> > along the coast and we can usually generate 6-12 for site specific
> > programs.
> >
> > Then, of course, you have the usual suspects; Steve Abolt, Tim
> > Pickles, etc. who can probably point you toward even more Southern
> > resources. I always make a point of attending anything that Steve
> A.
> > is involved in as his knowledge of the period is always
> informative.
> >
> >
> > Charlie McCulloh
> > Jackson's Lifeguard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com <WarOf1812%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "tedyeat" <tedyeat@> wrote:
> > >
> > > There is a Tenn. Militia group in the Wetumpka, Al. area that
> does
> > > events in and around Ft. Jackson, AL. Can put you in touch if
> > > interested. They do the event at New Orleans too.
> > >
> > > YH&OS
> > > Ted Yeatman
> > > Fell's Point Rifles
> > > 1st Md. Rifle BN.
> > >
> > > --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com <WarOf1812%40yahoogroups.com>, "John
> E. Hesselberg"
> > > <bravojeh@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > John,
> > > > regarding your question as to what units and events there are
> in
> > > the
> > > > south. Very little on both counts. January is the month set
> for
> > > the
> > > > Battle of New Orleans, and March is an event "Horsehsoe Bend"
> > (I
> > > > think) Dealing with Jackson's Creek War capmpaign in Alabama.
> > > > Due to Katrina things are a bit skewed on the event in NEw
> > > Orleans.
> > > > We used to have the living history portion on Jean Lafite
> > NAtional
> > > > Park but with the flooding I have not spoken to or been in
> > contact
> > > > with any of the park peoiple since right before the storm. The
> > > Park
> > > > is in the city of Chalmette (Which was under 14 feet of water
> > for
> > > a
> > > > long time.)
> > > > The actual reenactment of the night battle of the 23rd of
> > December
> > > > was usually held at the city park in Chalmete (I forget the
> > name)
> > > > and it was part of the original battle field. The city of
> > Chalmete
> > > > sponsored the event Reenactors were shuttled from the park to
> > the
> > > > convention center and were fed brakfast afterwards the
> > > > battle/skirmish would occur. Then everyone ws bussed to the
> park
> > > and
> > > > the living history event would start.
> > > > Horseshoe Bend is a state part and they put on a skirmish
> event
> > > > there. I've never been and the last three times I've planned
> on
> > > > going something always came up.
> > > >
> > > > Units in the area...There are few as you can immagine due to
> the
> > > > Civil War being the biggest "Thing" around here. (It's still
> > being
> > > > fought in some places down here)
> > > > British units the 4th and the 43rd are somewhat local. The
> 4th
> > > has
> > > > members in LA. MS. and AL. and probably only 4 active members
> > (I'm
> > > > not sure so I don't want to be accused of telling stories)the
> > 43rd
> > > > has members in MS. and Tx. We're five members I'm the so
> called
> > > unit
> > > > commander (Probably instigator)
> > > > US units, there are few members of the 7th US and 4th US in
> the
> > > area
> > > > AL. and MS. I really don't see much of them unless it's at an
> > > event
> > > > or time line gig.
> > > >
> > > > I am sponsoring an 1812 event in December near Natchez MS. on
> > > > December 3rd of this year. I don't know who or how many folks
> > will
> > > > show up so far I've onl;y gotten one response. There will be
> no
> > > > uniformed British at that event as the British were still
> > sailing
> > > > towards New Orleans.
> > > >
> > > > The Battle of New Orleans I assume will occure in January 2007
> > and
> > > > your best bet would be to contact the Battle of New Orleans
> > group
> > > in
> > > > yahoo, Steve Abolt, Tim Pickles, or some of your Buds.
> > > > I hope this helps!
> > > > John H
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
>
>



--
Fortuna audentes favorit.
("Fortune favors the bold.")


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear John

Though we've not met, may I offer the opinion that if any re-enactors, of
any era, display bigotry toward your partner because of race, you would do
us all a favor by having nothing further to do with them. And you might tell
us who they are so we can avoid them as well.

Vic Suthren
Naval Establishment
Crown Forces North America.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Ogden" <johnjogden@...>
To: <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WarOf1812] Re: 1812 in the South


> All-
>      My thanks for the input.  As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am a
> veteran reenactor of the French & Indian War (currently living in
Pittsburgh
> PA), and I was mortified at the thought of having to trade in the firelock
> for something that uses a percussion cap if I wanted to keep reenacting.
> While I have nothing against reenacting the War Between the States *per
se*,
> I feel it might not go well for reasons pertaining to my personal life.
The
> domestic partner, whose attendance of an MFA program at UNO necessitates
> this move, is a woman of color, which might not sit well with some parties
> in an ACW encampment.  It once caused some stress in regards to an 18th
> century event up this way, I'd rather not go looking for grief.
>
> Your servant,
>     John Ogden
>
> On 7/7/06, tedyeat <tedyeat@...> wrote:
> >
> >    Rumor had it that the LIFE GUARD had folded and gone into Rev. War.
> > The web site vanished some time ago. It had some good material on
> > it. Glad to hear they are apparently still around.
> >
> > As for CW war events, ever walked through an "authentic" camp where
> > folks were watching a portable battery powered TV at night? Too
> > many "Mastercard Farbs".
> >
> > YH&OS
> > Ted Yeatman
> > Fell's Point Rifles
> >
> > --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com <WarOf1812%40yahoogroups.com>, "Charlie
> > McCulloh"
> > <moosenmoo35244@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm located down on the coast at Daphne Alabama which is across
> > the
> > > bay from Mobile, so I'll post a narrative of what I know is going
> > on
> > > for the AL/MS Gulf Coast area.
> > > Before I start I will say that yes, Civil War is the big draw down
> > > here and yes, the majority of the 1812 participants were CW
> > > reenactors. I have been reenacting for twelve years and doing
> > > RW/1812 for six. For me personally, I reached an epiphany when at
> > a
> > > CW reenactment I was camped next to a man who belonged to no unit
> > > and was dressed as Nathan Bedford Forrest. I acknowledged his
> > > impression and then he loftily informed me that HE WAS Nathan
> > > Bedford Forrest. Shortly thereafter I began researching and
> > > participating in Colonial and 1812 events.
> > > The most striking thing about the Creek War and the events on the
> > > coast is that the general public has so little knowledge of these
> > > events. They have vaguely heard of Horseshoe Bend and Ft.
> > Mims..the
> > > Battle of New Orleans being the one touch stone that is commonly
> > > grasped. As a result of a number of factors there is a loose
> > > informal confederation of 1812 reenactors sprinkled among the
> > > coastal Gulf States.
> > >
> > > I belong to the "Jackson's Lifeguard" which was a nickname given
> > to
> > > Captain Deaderick's Company of Artillery of TN militia. We portray
> > > the unit with the aid of a 3 lb. cannon and limber. The group is
> > > helmed by Mark Hubbs from the Huntsville AL area and our group can
> > > muster as many as 12 if the forces of the cosmos are aligned. We
> > > also do a generic TN Militia impression when needed.
> > >
> > > Some of the events that we try to support every year:
> > >
> > > Chalmette-Battle of NO January
> > > Battle of Horseshoe Bend March
> > > Ft. Mims August (and Hell yes it's
> > hot)
> > > Ft. Jackson November
> > >
> > >
> > > I also belong to a group that is in the process of reconfiguring
> > > here on the Gulf Coast. It is the 4th Foot (the King's Own) and at
> > > our spring muster held at Ft. Gaines we had 10 members present.
> > The
> > > group is helmed by Donald Blackmon. Health issues have forced us
> > to
> > > alter schedules but we hope to be more fully engaged soon. We are
> > > currently finalizing kits and hope to be ready for the field
> > > presently. Outstanding issues are our composite order for Shakos
> > and
> > > belt plates.
> > >
> > > Ove Jensen, who is a Park Ranger at Horseshoe Bend has put
> > together
> > > a group that regularly does interpretation at HSB and will travel
> > to
> > > other period NPS sites to lend a hand. They previously did Regular
> > > (39th INF) but have switched to TN militia for their primary
> > > impression. This is an excellent group of about 8-10 and they have
> > > the capability of Artillery also.
> > >
> > > Steve Thomas, who is located in Fairhope AL is a member of Steve
> > > Abolts 7th Infantry but he also is very involved in helping
> > historic
> > > sites on the coast do Historical Interpretation. Steve can, and it
> > > seems on a moments notice, put together programs for sites that
> > > range from 1812 militia or US Regular to British/Spanish colonial.
> > > His capabilities also include 1820's-30's US Regulars and Rev War
> > > period. Steve draws on a loose confederation of reenactors here
> > > along the coast and we can usually generate 6-12 for site specific
> > > programs.
> > >
> > > Then, of course, you have the usual suspects; Steve Abolt, Tim
> > > Pickles, etc. who can probably point you toward even more Southern
> > > resources. I always make a point of attending anything that Steve
> > A.
> > > is involved in as his knowledge of the period is always
> > informative.
> > >
> > >
> > > Charlie McCulloh
> > > Jackson's Lifeguard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com <WarOf1812%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "tedyeat" <tedyeat@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There is a Tenn. Militia group in the Wetumpka, Al. area that
> > does
> > > > events in and around Ft. Jackson, AL. Can put you in touch if
> > > > interested. They do the event at New Orleans too.
> > > >
> > > > YH&OS
> > > > Ted Yeatman
> > > > Fell's Point Rifles
> > > > 1st Md. Rifle BN.
> > > >
> > > > --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com <WarOf1812%40yahoogroups.com>,
"John
> > E. Hesselberg"
> > > > <bravojeh@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > John,
> > > > > regarding your question as to what units and events there are
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > south. Very little on both counts. January is the month set
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > Battle of New Orleans, and March is an event "Horsehsoe Bend"
> > > (I
> > > > > think) Dealing with Jackson's Creek War capmpaign in Alabama.
> > > > > Due to Katrina things are a bit skewed on the event in NEw
> > > > Orleans.
> > > > > We used to have the living history portion on Jean Lafite
> > > NAtional
> > > > > Park but with the flooding I have not spoken to or been in
> > > contact
> > > > > with any of the park peoiple since right before the storm. The
> > > > Park
> > > > > is in the city of Chalmette (Which was under 14 feet of water
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > long time.)
> > > > > The actual reenactment of the night battle of the 23rd of
> > > December
> > > > > was usually held at the city park in Chalmete (I forget the
> > > name)
> > > > > and it was part of the original battle field. The city of
> > > Chalmete
> > > > > sponsored the event Reenactors were shuttled from the park to
> > > the
> > > > > convention center and were fed brakfast afterwards the
> > > > > battle/skirmish would occur. Then everyone ws bussed to the
> > park
> > > > and
> > > > > the living history event would start.
> > > > > Horseshoe Bend is a state part and they put on a skirmish
> > event
> > > > > there. I've never been and the last three times I've planned
> > on
> > > > > going something always came up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Units in the area...There are few as you can immagine due to
> > the
> > > > > Civil War being the biggest "Thing" around here. (It's still
> > > being
> > > > > fought in some places down here)
> > > > > British units the 4th and the 43rd are somewhat local. The
> > 4th
> > > > has
> > > > > members in LA. MS. and AL. and probably only 4 active members
> > > (I'm
> > > > > not sure so I don't want to be accused of telling stories)the
> > > 43rd
> > > > > has members in MS. and Tx. We're five members I'm the so
> > called
> > > > unit
> > > > > commander (Probably instigator)
> > > > > US units, there are few members of the 7th US and 4th US in
> > the
> > > > area
> > > > > AL. and MS. I really don't see much of them unless it's at an
> > > > event
> > > > > or time line gig.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am sponsoring an 1812 event in December near Natchez MS. on
> > > > > December 3rd of this year. I don't know who or how many folks
> > > will
> > > > > show up so far I've onl;y gotten one response. There will be
> > no
> > > > > uniformed British at that event as the British were still
> > > sailing
> > > > > towards New Orleans.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Battle of New Orleans I assume will occure in January 2007
> > > and
> > > > > your best bet would be to contact the Battle of New Orleans
> > > group
> > > > in
> > > > > yahoo, Steve Abolt, Tim Pickles, or some of your Buds.
> > > > > I hope this helps!
> > > > > John H
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of
square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS of
square miles...
>
> Unit Contact information for North America:
>    ---------------------------------
> Crown Forces Unit Listing:
> http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
>
> American Forces Unit Listing
> http://usforces1812.tripod.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, <suthren@...> wrote:
>
> Dear John
>
> Though we've not met, may I offer the opinion that if any re-
enactors, of
> any era, display bigotry toward your partner because of race, you
would do
> us all a favor by having nothing further to do with them. And you
might tell
> us who they are so we can avoid them as well.


Motion seconded...  and I think I can say without fear of reprisal,
CARRIED.

~Dale

Ted,
I know the feeling.  While I try my best to be as authentic as
possible (one set of modern clothes to the event, my sea bag and pack
for the event[with only issued period gear] and a modern set of
clothes for the ride home, living in a canvas tent on straw)I often
find myself and others like me attacked for one minute detail (button
size or my 38 waist)arriving with more gear than the Prince Regent or
with a total disregaurd of military bearing.  There is a middle
ground, but he "supermen" seam to be further away than most of us.

Colin Murphy
The USS Constitution 1812 Marine Guard
& USMCHC

----- Original Message -----
From: "DAVID BRUNELLE" <davidbrunelle@...>
To: "David Brunelle" <davidbrunelle@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 12:38 AM
Subject: Fw: Wasaga under Siege 2006


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DAVID BRUNELLE" <davidbrunelle@...>
> To: "David Brunelle" <davidbrunelle@...>
> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 12:31 AM
> Subject: Fw: Wasaga under Siege 2006
>
>
>> Dear Re-enactors and Friends,
>>
>>
>>
>> Wasaga under Siege 2006 is fast approaching and if you are planning to
>> attend please register on-line at www.wasagaundersiege1812.com ASAP.  To
>> date we have over 400 participants registered and a great line-up of
>> entertainment and activities scheduled for the weekend.  For full details
>> on the event visit our website.  Look forward to seeing everyone!
>>
>>
>>
>> David J. Brunelle
>>
>> Co-ordinator
>>
>> Wasaga under Siege 2006
>>
>>
>>
>> Press Release
>>
>> Wasaga under Siege - "A War of 1812 Experience"
>>
>> www.wasagaundersiege1812.com
>>
>> Nancy Island Historic Site, Wasaga Beach, Ontario, Canada
>>
>> July 21st, 22nd, 23rd/2006
>>
>>
>>
>> Lt. Miller Worsley of the British Royal Navy was in a tight situation and
>> he knew it.  From his position at the mouth of the Nottawasaga River
>> looking out onto Georgian Bay, he could see the sails of three warships
>> approaching. They were not flying the British Union Jack, but the Stars
>> and Stripes of the infant republic to the south.  It was August 13th,
>> 1814 and Great Britain had been at war with the United States for two
>> years.
>>
>>            From the narrow strip of land on which Worsley lay, the
>> Nottawasaga River curved behind him running almost parallel to the
>> lakeshore for about four miles, a piece of waterfront, which to future
>> generations would become a popular tourist destination.
>>
>>            But now it was war and Worley's main concern was the schooner
>> Nancy which sat anchored in the river behind him, her masts concealed by
>> the trees.  She was his to command along with 21 seamen of the Royal
>> Navy, 23 Indians and 9 French Canadian Voyageurs.  This was Nottawasaga
>> Landing an important British supply post.  It was guarded only by one
>> crudely built blockhouse on the inland side of the river and was the only
>> means of defence which stood between the Americans and the Nancy, if she
>> was to be discovered.
>>
>>            The American ships Niagara, Tigress and Scorpion, under the
>> command of Captain A. Sinclair had sailed to the mouth of the Nottawasaga
>> River and dropped anchor.  They believed the Nancy whom they were
>> seeking, was still on route from Fort Michilimackinac.  Perhaps the Nancy
>> and her crew would escape the Americans after all..
>>
>> Wasaga under Siege "A War of 1812 Experience" hosted by Nancy Island
>> Historic Site and the Town of Wasaga Beach will feature authentic War of
>> 1812 tactics, historical battles, marine assault landings, artillery, and
>> much more. A professional public address announcer will narrate each
>> battle event as a series of fictional and historical battle scenarios
>> will be presented to the public over a three day period.  The Grand
>> Encampment at Nancy Island Historic Site will feature over 400
>> re-enactors opening their living history encampments to the public along
>> with 19th century merchants, artisans, period cooking, musket and cannon
>> demonstrations, surgeons' tent, Dr. Quimby's Medicine show, Gopher
>> Baroque, Hardtack & Harmony period musical entertainment and much more.
>>           "The sandy beach and the modern attractions that surround it
>> have overshadowed Wasaga Beaches rich history for such a long time, that
>> only a small percentage of visitors and residents actually know that a
>> War of 1812 battle was fought here.  Wasaga under Siege "A War of 1812
>> Experience" is an annual large scale re-enactment that will help bring to
>> live this important historical event in Wasaga Beaches' history.  Battles
>> and activities will no longer be restricted to the Historic Site of Nancy
>> Island as all battle events will take place off the island in various
>> beach park locations throughout Wasaga Beach.  The battles taking place
>> off Nancy Island will bring more awareness of our rich history to our
>> visitors and residents as well as bringing more exposure and visitation
>> to Nancy Island Historic Site itself."  Bonnie Smith - Community
>> Development Officer - Town of Wasaga Beach
>>
>>
>>
>> Looking for Volunteers - July 21st, 22nd, 23rd - Nancy Island Historic
>> Site
>>
>>
>>
>> We are also looking for volunteers to help out with admissions,
>> refreshment booth, shuttle service and parking.  Anyone interested in
>> helping out at the event will receive a T-shirt, souvenir dog tag,
>> endless bottles of water and dinner on Saturday evening.  Volunteers will
>> also receive 2 free admissions for the weekend for friends and family.
>>
>> Contact:
>>
>> Marilyn Beecroft at: marilyn.beecroft@... or (705) 429-2728.
>>
>> or
>>
>> David Brunelle at: davidbrunelle@... or (705)-549-0463
>>
>>
>>
>

No, The Jackson's Lifeguard never disbanded. We just were too cheap to
pay for the web site host when they suddenly went from "Free" to
wanting $200 a year. All of the research is now on our FREE Yahoo list
site in the files section.

Charlie McCulloh

Jackson's Lifeguard
1st Continental Artillery
Georgia Refugees
4th Foot (Kings Own)


--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "tedyeat" <tedyeat@...> wrote:
>
> Rumor had it that the LIFE GUARD had folded and gone into Rev. War.
> The web site vanished some time ago. It had some good material on
> it. Glad to hear they are apparently still around.
>
> As for CW war events, ever walked through an "authentic" camp where
> folks were watching a portable battery powered TV at night? Too
> many "Mastercard Farbs".
>
> YH&OS
> Ted Yeatman
> Fell's Point Rifles
>

Once again I am producing the following Hand Sew Tents based on
primary research done at the National Archives. All Made of correct 10
oz canvas:

Common Tent             350.00
Wall/Horsemans tent     650.00
Wall tent fly           175.00
Shed tent               175.00
Briish Bell tent        850.00

these come complete with frill (sod Cloth) and rope stake loops and
rope ties all per original specifications.

Stephen Allie

List,
Steve's tents are one of the best investments our
unit, (7th USI) has ever made.  After 10 years of
service they are still going strong. If you want a
tent, and you want it "right", you can't go wrong with
these.

All the best,
S.

--- us14thld <allies@...> wrote:

> Once again I am producing the following Hand Sew
> Tents based on
> primary research done at the National Archives.

Cottonbalers, By God!

visit our website at www.cottonbalers.lynchburg.net

__________________________________________________
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Steve,
Thank you for your very kind words.
SA

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, Steve Abolt <sacbg7@...> wrote:
>
> List,
> Steve's tents are one of the best investments our
> unit, (7th USI) has ever made.  After 10 years of
> service they are still going strong. If you want a
> tent, and you want it "right", you can't go wrong with
> these.
>
> All the best,
> S.
>
> --- us14thld <allies@...> wrote:
>
> > Once again I am producing the following Hand Sew
> > Tents based on
> > primary research done at the National Archives.
>
> Cottonbalers, By God!
>
> visit our website at www.cottonbalers.lynchburg.net
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
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Hey now,

Once again, thanks to all of the organizers and volunteers for such a
great event.  The Saturday night battle in the village is always fun.
  I've posted a few pictures on the GLI website.  Should have some more
in a couple of weeks.

http://glengarrylightinfantry.ca

Click on Gallery.

Regards
Bill

Hello list,

Just wanted to say that pics from the 4th of July weekend in Boston
are posted on our website for anyone who would like a look.

http://www.royalscotsgrenadiers.com/images.html
just click on the picture where it says 2006 images click here. This
takes you to our albums. Click on Album E - Boston ;>)

It was an awesome event. The 1812 Constitution Marine guard are a
fantastic group. The USS Constitution and Boston are outstanding. You
can see much of this from the pics.

Dave Westhouse
Royal Scots.

Sorry for the late post, have been away at both Boston and Crysler's
since June 30th.

General Signal
Naval Establishment

Film As A Guide To Naval Portrayal Of 1812

Members of the Naval Establishment, Crown Forces North America, may profitably
use study of several films to enhance their portrayals and characterizations of
seaman and marines of the Royal Navy during the Napoleonic period. Several are
listed here.

Captain Horatio Hornblower (circa 1952)

A British-made film with all principal characters portrayed by British actors
with the exception of Gregory Peck as Horatio Hornblower and Virginia Mayo as
Lady Barbara Wellesley. Some minor errors of dress but (American accents of the
principals aside) a generally reliable if clean-cut depiction of manner,
behavior, relationships and Naval Traditions of the Napoleonic era within the
limitations of 1950s filmmaking. A 'best bet' in terms of behavior.

Damn The Defiant and Billy Budd (mid-1960s)

The former film a study in power struggle between a Lieutenant with 'interest'
in Parliament and a captain attempting to maintain his authority: generally good
production values. The latter a black-and-white case study of Evil destroying
Good written by Herman Melville and acted well and accurately by all concerned
except an unaccountable casting of Robert Ryan as the malevolent Claggart. Good
as background preparation.

Master and Commander: The Far Side Of The World (2003)

In properties and technical preparation, and in costuming and physical
appearance, the surest guide to the appearance of the Napoleonic Royal Navy.
Very good as a guide for the look and behavior of many roles. Marred
unfortunately by historical ignorance which used incorrect terms, mispresented
or showed lack of knowledge of actual naval customs and usages, and as well a
noticeable lack of training in military bearing and proper carriage and use of
arms in the marines. (Ironically a far more professional guide to marine drill,
bearing and behavior is evident in the anachronistically-uniformed troops shown
in both Pirates Of The Caribbean films of 2003 and 2006). A 'best bet' in terms
of physical look.

I have the Honour to be,
Gentlemen,
Yours with great Regard

Victor Suthren

Flag Officer Commanding
Naval Establishment
Crown Forces North America.

GOD SAVE THE KING.

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Who is the moderator on this list?--john

James Yaworsky -Moderator/owner


Larry Lozon Moderator


Tom Fournier  -Moderator





--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jkonkapot@...> wrote:
>
> Who is the moderator on this list?--john
>

As Bill said, great event, always fun. Looking forward to 2008.

Pics have been posted on the Royal Scots Grenadiers site for all to
view. More will be added soon.
http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalscots06/my_photos
Click on 2006 pic link then Album F - Crysler's Farm.

Enjoy.

Dave Westhouse,
Royal Scots

*After Action Report on Shore Leave Press Gang Actions*

Ship's Company sent a contingent to the 28th Annual "Shore Leave"
Science Fiction and Fantasy Convention on 8 July, representing the crew
of the 3rd USS Enterprize.   We viewed this as REenactors giving
historical background to PREenactors.  In many ways, it was like a good
Grand Tactical: Lots of sutlers (including Gerry Chriest!) and lots of
people in funny clothes.

We had two sessions, the one in the morning was well attended, our
opening with singing "Donkey Riding" brought in a few more curious
souls. Deb Fuller was the ramrod. Tara Hunter talked on sailors' life on
board ship, detailing what we wore, what we did and what we ate. Geoff
Graff gave a history of the War of 1812 in the Chesapeake region, and a
short history of ships named Enterprise.  Sean Barnett discussed Marines
and their role on board ships (mainly to harass the sailors). Joe
Daniels and Mea Teale demonstrated hand weapons, giving a great show of
singlestick action. Vince Wilding concluded with a discussion and
demonstration of Sea Chanties and Forebitters.  It was rounded out by a
lively Q&A session.  The afternoon session was quite different.  Aimed
at powder monkeys, we tried to introduce these youths to the fine
sailorly arts of knot tying and boarding party defenses.  They mostly
seemed interested in whacking each other (and poor Joe Daniels!) with
foam swords. The kids  tried on clothes from the slops bag and handled
(under watchful eyes edged weapons) One of the Convention volunteers
called for a game of walk the plank, and despite our best efforts at
explaining the historical inaccuracy, the tykes delighted in the
fantasy.  Most importantly, the kids had fun, gained a soupçon of
knowledge and nobody got hurt!

Later in the evening, Sean Barnett was inveigled into entering in the
Costume Masquerade contest, where he won an award for Best Historical
"Costume".

As to the events at the Ten Forward dance, what happens at a SciFi Con,
stays at the SciFi Con. Suffice it to say, there was a reason why the
Marine Uniform Regulations specified shako's as opposed to diamond
tiaras. To top it off, when we requested a "First of April", the DJ said
"Wha'???"

Lesson Learned:

    1. Start of with a LOUD Chantey
    2. Bring Business Cards!
    3. Kids & Edged weapons: Extreme Care & Caution! (repeat: there were
       no problems THIS time)
    4. History: for this audience punch up the Enterprise connection.
    5. Dancing is harder than marching! (also learned at the recent Paddy
       west and at GT: Mumford!)

The pix are at http://www.WincingDevil.com/SL28


(Yes Katie, That's Cricket!)
--
*Vince Wilding, AKA Honest Jock Matlow*
Splotch, Fuzzee and Minnie's Majordomo --- http://www.ILoveMySphynx.com
Vince (at) VinceWilding (dot) com --- http://www.VinceWilding.com
Piratical and reenacting stuff --- http://www.WincingDevil.com
Just call me "Popo"! --- http://www.CallMePopo.com
*MSN:* vwilding *AOL:* WincingDevil *Yahoo:* Wincing_Devil
/Dogs come when they're called, cats take a message and get back to you
later./


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List
On behalf of the 41st Regt. A big thank you to all who planned, hosted
and participated in the event at Crysler's Farm this past week-end. It
was a great event, and a very satisfying one. The battles were great.
Personally, I enjoyed the fellowship with members of other units.
This is a great hobby.
See you at Ft. Niagara
Ray Hobbs
41st Regiment

And a good time was had by all....

   I'd like to thank the event organizers for their usual good work and a big
"way to go" for arranging such nice weather!

   I'd also like to thank the 89th for participating in the "Adopt-a-Newf"
program and giving this orphan a chance to play.

   Finally, Huzzahs all around to the officers and other ranks from both sides
for great battles throughout the weekend.  Saturday night, in particular, was a
treat!

   J-P Johnson
   Cpl
   Royal NFLand Reg't, Bulger's Coy.


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John,

Hello,  I'm Josh Wingler, Lt. of the 3rd Regiment of Foot British Army
and native of Plattsburgh.  I'm on break right now and don't have more
than a couple minutes.

I'll get you the contact information and post it later today.

I'd have gotten back to you sooner but I just got back from Chrysler's
last night.

Although I can't imagine why anyone here would disagree with having
native portrayals.  There is a lot of documented evidence of natives
taking part in activities throughout the campaign, and I think most
would be more than happy to have good native portrayals coming.

If you'd like drop me an e-mail, my address being WinglerJ@...

The weekend will be Sept. 9-10

It is a paid event, muskets get a $10 stipend with it going up for
artillery and boats, Saturday meal is provided as well as coffee and
donuts for the mornings.

I'd be more than happy to send you a pamphlet that contains some of the
activities.

Anyway I have to go right now, but I'll try to get back to you later.

Regards,

Josh Wingler

Hi Dave,

I was looking at your pictures from Boston and Cryslers'. Great pictures.
However, the Colour Party picture from Cryslers is not the Incorporated Militia
of Upper Canada but the 89th Colour Party. Since our Junior Ensign just became a
new father last Monday he could not make the event. We have a pretty good
rapport with Paul Kelly and Jim Niddery and asked them to help us with the
Colours. Cryslers Farm is where the 89th was basically front and centre. That is
why our Colours go on the field. also as a relatively inexperienced Colour
Party, Paul was there to help us with our training.

If possible, the 89th Regiment would appreciate it if you could make to
correction.

Also, could you thank Gerry for her help on Saturday afternoon when some of went
swimming at the beach. Greatly appreciated.

We also have to stop meeting like this. People may start to talk.

John Carlson
Colour Sergeant,
89th Regiment of Foot




   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dave Westhouse
   To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:02 PM
   Subject: [WarOf1812] Boston 4th of July event


   Hello list,

   Just wanted to say that pics from the 4th of July weekend in Boston
   are posted on our website for anyone who would like a look.

   http://www.royalscotsgrenadiers.com/images.html
   just click on the picture where it says 2006 images click here. This
   takes you to our albums. Click on Album E - Boston ;>)

   It was an awesome event. The 1812 Constitution Marine guard are a
   fantastic group. The USS Constitution and Boston are outstanding. You
   can see much of this from the pics.

   Dave Westhouse
   Royal Scots.

   Sorry for the late post, have been away at both Boston and Crysler's
   since June 30th.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

My apologies to everyone for the previous email. Should have sent it offline.
Did not get home from Cryslers until 2:00 am.

John


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dave Westhouse
   To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:02 PM
   Subject: [WarOf1812] Boston 4th of July event


   Hello list,

   Just wanted to say that pics from the 4th of July weekend in Boston
   are posted on our website for anyone who would like a look.

   http://www.royalscotsgrenadiers.com/images.html
   just click on the picture where it says 2006 images click here. This
   takes you to our albums. Click on Album E - Boston ;>)

   It was an awesome event. The 1812 Constitution Marine guard are a
   fantastic group. The USS Constitution and Boston are outstanding. You
   can see much of this from the pics.

   Dave Westhouse
   Royal Scots.

   Sorry for the late post, have been away at both Boston and Crysler's
   since June 30th.





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Hi All
  If anyone sent me any e-mails off list between Sunday AM and Monday
around 9:30 AM , could you please resend them to me. I accidently
deleted my entire inbox when I was checking my mail remotely from my
work ! I know there was at least one message from the new 22nd US
group, so please re-send to me at jharris*pathcom.com ( put @ where the
* is ).
Regards and feeling quite annoyed at myself right now!
John Harris
PS- Doug, I got the registration for Niagara

Good morning list!

I have posted some photos from the weekend on our website:

www.fortyfirst.org

Kudos to our photographer, Carole Jarrell for the great photos.

(Great photos Bill and Dave!)

Tom Fournier
41st Regiment of Foot

Hiya Dave,
Awesome photos!!  Going through some of mine and have a couple of
Katie and Meagan for your personal photos I'll send to you.  Seems not
only the adults at these events make new friendships, but the children
too  ;)..See you guys at Niagara!!

Carole
41st Campfollower

From: "tedyeat" <tedyeat@...>

"... One thing to consider is wearing the linen summer coatee if you are
down south, or even in
  heat further north. ..."




Mr. Yeatman



    You are correct and I did ... as I was portraying part of the 7th USI.
But when portraying Crown Forces the Royal Warrant calls for wool, be it
regimental coat or barracks jacket.

The missive sent was from Sgt. Fournier of the 41st Regiment (Crown Forces).
The 41st were never issued linen summer coatees ...

the difference in the two armies


Yrs.,
L2 ~ AdC
Crown Forces
Upper Canada

Thanks to the organizers as well from The Drums. Excellent event,
beautiful site, wonderful weather and haggis. Can't get much better
than that!!

"Drums"