Dave wrote: "Curiously, the 1811 inventory included 1846 ** spears **
(i.e.
pikes ?) and spontoons."

Some U.S. infantry were armed with "spears" (or pikes) during the war on
the Niagara front, there is an illustration of an infantryman with one in
one of the recent Ospreys, if my memory serves me correct (the one by Jim
Kochan?)

Jim
41st

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--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, dancingbobd@w... wrote:
>
>
> The US had muskets of the French pattern and also had many muskets
of
> the British Brown Bess Pattern.

Bob,

My comment about the muskets probably being Charleville pattern in
1793, was meant to highlight that the 1795 Springfield pattern
muskets were not yet in production. Some seem to have the impression
that all American muskets in the Revolutionary War period were French
Charlevilles. As to sources of manufacture of US muskets prior to US
arsenals coming on-line to supply government needs, the following is
probably the most accurate statement in this regard:

    "There is no documentary evidence yet discovered which
    describes the manufacturers, quantities or dates of
    delivery of Charleville pattern U. S. muskets."

Other arsenal records of 1793 provide some insights into sources of
the arms. For example, Springfield, Mass under Muskets, etc.
itemized "New French arms, 6,678". West Point identified 7,360 stands
of arms, but also identified 706 stands of "French" and 226 stands
of "English" muskets. Perhaps the English muskets were captured, or
perhaps purchased by 1793. West Point may have purchased the non-
French/non-English 7,360 stands from private suppliers. But it shows
that "French" muskets were seen as a separate category.

> If
> there were fuzee's they would have been property of one of the
officers.
>

The remarks on the fuzees are of course in the context of
understanding the (apparently) many distinctions (or interpretations
anyhow) between a "fusil" and a issue infantry musket. William
Clark's writing shows that he identified "fuzee" as distinct from a
musket. I certainly don't want anyone to infer that his men all
carried them, rather then the 1795 Springfield issue muskets are the
1803 rifles.

Judging from arsenal records, the fuzee was phased out of production
by 1800. The several dozen identified in arsenal records of 1793
might shed some light on the nature of their distribution, i.e. a
mere handful of them in all arsenals does suggest they had been
intended for very limited distribution. But not to officers only. One
arsenals records specifically listed having 12 "Fusees and bayonets",
(itemized separately from their Muskets and bayonets). Officers with
bayonets ? Seems more likely for serjeants -- and very few serjeants
at that!

One more clue supports their being a different caliber, as several in
the fusil-thread-extraordinaire have noted: one arsenal identifies
fusee cartridges on hand, itemized separately from musket cartridges!
Seems certain to imply a different caliber, or perhaps different load
(e.g. shot -v- ball)

Not fusillading ;>)
Dave

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, yawors1@u... wrote:
>
> Jim wrote:
> Some U.S. infantry were armed with "spears" (or pikes) during the war
on
> the Niagara front

Not a bunch of "pikers", I hope.



sorry. couldn't resist. it's Monday 8>)

In a message dated 11/27/2005 9:06:44 PM Central Standard Time,
md5_yager@... writes:

US  "Empire" ?  Didn't know that. Had read that Florida was added to the
Disney Empire, in 1971.



Ah no, the Disney Empire made its move on Europe too soon and will  doubtless
be taking over further US posessions until it can acheve world  hegemony and
force everyone to smile all day and all children to wear  'Mouseketeer' ears
during daylight hours.

Be afraid, be very afraid!


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In a message dated 11/27/2005 8:51:19 PM Central Standard Time,
LCpl_RM@... writes:

In your  studies on the NO campaign, would it have been possible for Britain
to turn  over any captured portion back to Spain?  Or more correctly, could
Spain  have demanded NO as compensation for a broken treaty?



Certainly the British 'Secret Orders' for the New Orleans campaign make no
mention of hanging on to captured terretory after a satisfactory peace had been
  concluded, but I think it very likely that Spain would have been offered
back  the conqured bits of its old colony (stolen goods bought from a known
highwayman  as they were called at the time). I also suspect that Britain would
have wanted  the Spanish to act as co-garantors of the Indian nations they had
agreed to set  up in the north.

Cheers

Tim


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In a message dated 11/27/2005 9:14:38 PM Central Standard Time,
macomb@... writes:

Replace  "Empire" with "Manifest Destiny".



Empire, Manifest Destiny, the difference is only that, to US ears 'Manifest
Destin'y sounds more noble for some reason, we all know what it means  :-)


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I thought that we learned in school that the Louisiana Purchase was a case of
"buying stolen property" and that Florida was a case of just plain "stealing
property" or did I miss something in class that day?

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Wow!  You could say that "The first Drouillard ... in Detroit [had a] Cadillac
..."  Now that is history.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi List,
   I've been following the discussion on fusils with interest for
some time now.  The discussion seems to have travelled in several
different directions before I was able to respond, but I thought I
would add what little I know.  I think this may have come up before,
so this is merely reiteration.  In 1812 (the only period I've done
any serious research, I'm afraid) the inspection returns were
standardized and laid out very simply.  The third page is devoted to
inventory of the Regiment.  As Tom already mentioned, each item is
divided into the number of Good, Repairable, Servicable and
Wanting.  The categories under the heading of Return of Arms are as
follows: Pikes, Rifles, Rifle Swords, Carbines, Carbine Steel
Ramrods, Carbine Bayonets, Scabbards, Fusils, (Ramrods....),
Muskets, (Ramrods...), Magazines, Drums, Bugles, Armourer's Tools,
Portable Forge, and Tents.  This is the form by which every Regiment
that I have seen was inspected during our time period.  I'm sure
most of you have seen these, but the point I'm trying to make is
that all of these things listed are clearly government issued
items.  They are not officer's private purchases, nor captured
American (or French) weapons.
   To add to the confusion, however, the Royal Scots 4th battalion
was issued with 200 hundred fusils (or fusees) along with 1000
muskets while they were stationed in England.  I cannot figure out
what the 4th battalion would do with 200 fusils.  As suggested
before, they could have have had two companies of small boys not
large enough to handle full-sized muskets, but I was under the
impression that height was one of the recruiting requirements.
Would this have been waived if if was thought the young man would
continue growing?
   On to more important things, however.  The 1st battalion Royal
Scots, while serving in Canada, had six fusils.  They were not
wanting any.  According to the paylists, the 1st battalion had only
six sergeants serving in its Light Company.  Although this is a
tenuous link, and I have to agree with Craig that it makes little
sense to have two different calibres in your company, this is the
only reason I can see for having so few fusils.

Chris McKay
Royal Scots Light Company

> A thought... do regimental returns normally show sergeants' pikes
in this time period?  The 1814 return for the 41st doesn't.

I had an opportunity to go to the National Archives several years
ago and looked into some original documentation on the Inorporated
Militia.  Amongst the papers I saw a couple lists of arms,
accoutrements, clothing, and necessaries of various companies turned
in when the unit disbanded in 1815.  In almost all cases, there was
no "Regimental Coat" turned in by the Sergeants.  This would seem to
indicate those Sergeants were wearing soming else -
likely "Sergeant's Coats".  They had all the other kit, including
muskets, although there was no refernce in these particular
returns to Sashes.  (Letters early in the war directed they were
to be made locally if unobtainable through regular means.)  Those
coats and sashes may have been listed elsewhere, but either I failed
to spot them, or the document did not survive.

It might be the Pikes fall into one of those "not on this list"
categories.

Jason E.

From: "Lt Col B" <HQ93rd@...>

  If YOU reenact one of the Units (US or Brit) who was THERE, WHY aren't YOU
going to be there????
............






I take the liberty of altering Commander B's statement



  "If YOU re-enact one of the Crown Force Units ... WHY aren't YOU going to
be there?"



     With Crown Forces Units having their Annual Meetings ... why not choose
'Crown Forces Events' for your Unit's 2006 Campaign Season?



Not to take away from New Orleans ......

... but, add,

... the Annual 1812 Grand Tactical, Genesee Country Village - Mumford, N.Y.
June 24-25 ... should be larger than the Fort George 1812 Grand Tactical
event in '05 ... "WHY aren't YOU going to be there?"




2006 CROWN FORCES EVENTS
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

June 24-25 Annual 1812 Grand Tactical Genesee Country Village - Mumford,
N.Y.

Apr. 22-23  Crown Forces School, Fort York, Toronto
May 6-7       Longwoods - London, ON
May 19-21  School of the Sailor - Toronto-Hamilton, ON
June 24-25  Annual 1812 Grand Tactical Genesee Country Village - Mumford,
N.Y.
July 8-9       Crysler's Farm - Morrisburg, ON



Working with others to create one   " BIG "   1812 event each year ...



Yrs.,
      L2

Congratulations to the 2006 Executives
===========================


41st Regiment of Foot Military Living History Group

Chair: Ray Hobbs
Treasurer: Andrew Bateman
Secretary: Tom Fournier
........


Incorporated Militia of Upper Canada's - Military Re-Enactment Society of
Canada

President: Jim Middery
Vice President: Will Woods
Secretary: Paul Kelly
Treasure: Bev Hill
IMUC Representative : Jack Dennahower
Campfollower Rep: Brenda Lightfoot
MRSC Chair: Phil Mozel



Has your unit has had it's Annual Meeting and elections?


New Crown Forces Units please respond with name of Regiment, Commander or
email contact person that  http://1812crownforces.tripod.com  can be
updated.

Please respond if your Commander or email contact person has changed



Thanking you in advance for this information

Yrs.,
      Larry Lozon
     Crown Forces AdC

Allison and I would just like to extend a heartfelt thankyou to all
our fellow reenactors and other list members who forwarded their
emails of support, and to those who remembered us in their thoughts
and prayers, during our recent medical crisis with our new daughter.
The caring and support of our "extended family" in the reenacting
community has been wonderful, and has helped us through a very
difficult time.

To clarify what has occurred: Brigid is now believed to have suffered
a massive stroke, probably sometime either at or shortly after her
birth. There was no intercranial bleeding, so the stroke was probably
caused by a blood clot in a major artery of the brain. As a result, a
large piece of brian tissue, spanning three lobes on the left side
and roughly a bit larger than a golf ball, was killed off by lack of
oxygen supply. While it is impossible to predict the long-term
effects of this stroke, we can safely assume that, due to it's sheer
magnitude, there will be at least some permanent deficit. The areas
of the brain affected include centers generally accepted to control
such things as motor function and linguistic capabilities. Only time
will tell exactly how much damage has been done.

The good news is that Brigid's tender age makes recovery far more
possible than would be expected in a mature stroke victim. In fact,
we have been told that a stroke of this magnitude would have either
killed or fully incapacitated an adult. As of now, the only
potentially serious effects seem to be some feeding/choking problems,
apnea spells, and mild seizures.

Brigid is now home from the hospital, and doing very well. She is
gaining weight, and seems to be quite contented overall. She is
getting considerable medical support: a home nurse visits three times
weekly, and she will be visited by an occupational therapist to guage
and begin therapy for deficits as they arise. Her case is being
closely monitored by her own pediatrician (who happens to be a
developmental specialist), as well as by the Hospital for Sick
Children's neurology and stroke teams. We intend to get her into
whatever early intervention programs are available as she becomes old
enough to benefit from them, in order to minimize the long-term
impact of the stroke.

Thanks once again to everyone for their support. We never cease to be
amazed at the wonderful relationship that exists between the great
majority of us in the reenacting community. What a terrific bunch of
folks! We're looking forward to seeing everyone at the beginning of
the next season.

Warmest regards,
Dale & Allison Kidd

Congratulations to the 2006 Executive

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Westhouse

Elections for the 1st Regt. (Royal Scots) Grenadier Company

Commanding Officer - Hal Dennison
Civilian Advisor - Karen Westhouse
Military Advisor - Ron Zboril

Just a quick note to introduce myself. My name is Tommy and I am a Newbe in
the war of 1812. Actually I have been doing Living History for a long time
but for the most part it has been in the venue of Colonial America and the
War of Independance. My spacific field tends towards the history of magic
and science and its relation to the time period at hand on a cause and
effect basis. In any case right now I am interested the art and effects of
espionage during not only the WO1812 but also during the Am. Rev. and the
Fr. and Indian  War.

In any case I look forward to interacting with the group. I am presently
located in Knoxville and a member of the Tennessee Mountain Settlers. I
have recently relocated here from NY where I did a lot of work with the NY 3rd

Have a great day
Tommy

It is with great pride that I announce a long overdue restructuring
of the Stoney Creek House Guard. In October, 21 new  "founding
members" adopted and signed a new constitution, enabling us greater
autonomy and decision making.
In addition to this comes a new executive. Those people are:

President – Rick Peterson jr
Secretary – Rex Toews
Treasurer – Alex Cubercovic

What all this means is that we are still a volunteer organization
very closely tied to Stoney Creek Battlefield House, but are able to
now dictate our own finances, events schedule, and daily business.
Battlefield House has warmly embraced this new arrangement, and still
reserves many special rights and privileges.
These changes will pave the way for continued growth and success for
the House Guard.

YH&Osvt
Rick Peterson jr.

Welcome aboard. Tommy.

Vic Suthren
Naval Establishment
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tommy" <rainbowrider@...>
To: <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:54 AM
Subject: [WarOf1812] hello


> Just a quick note to introduce myself. My name is Tommy and I am a Newbe
in
> the war of 1812. Actually I have been doing Living History for a long time
> but for the most part it has been in the venue of Colonial America and the
> War of Independance. My spacific field tends towards the history of magic
> and science and its relation to the time period at hand on a cause and
> effect basis. In any case right now I am interested the art and effects of
> espionage during not only the WO1812 but also during the Am. Rev. and the
> Fr. and Indian  War.
>
> In any case I look forward to interacting with the group. I am presently
> located in Knoxville and a member of the Tennessee Mountain Settlers. I
> have recently relocated here from NY where I did a lot of work with the NY
3rd
>
> Have a great day
> Tommy
>
>
>
>
>
> The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of
square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS of
square miles...
>
> Unit Contact information for North America:
>    ---------------------------------
> Crown Forces Unit Listing:
> http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
>
> American Forces Unit Listing
> http://usforces1812.tripod.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/186 - Release Date: 29/11/05
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>

From: "Tommy" <rainbowrider@...>

"... Colonial America and the War of Independance. My spacific field tends
towards the history of magic and science and its relation to the time period
..."




  Tommy

                There is a gentleman at Westfield Heritage Village
www.westfieldheritage.ca  Rockton, Ontario, Canada
  who does a very good job of portraying the scientific wonders of the early
1800's maybe they can help you with your quest of researching magic and
science during the War of 1812.


Yrs.,
   L2

To one and all, "Happy St. Andrew's Day"

Slainte

"Drums"

From: "Rick Peterson" <petersons@...>

  It is with great pride that I announce a long overdue restructuring of the
Stoney Creek House Guard.






Rick,

        What Regiment will the Stoney Creek House Guard represent?


Yrs.,
    L2

Thank you Vic
At 09:35 AM 11/30/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>Welcome aboard. Tommy.
>
>Vic Suthren
>Naval Establishment
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tommy" <rainbowrider@...>
>To: <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:54 AM
>Subject: [WarOf1812] hello
>
>
> > Just a quick note to introduce myself. My name is Tommy and I am a Newbe
>in
> > the war of 1812. Actually I have been doing Living History for a long time
> > but for the most part it has been in the venue of Colonial America and the
> > War of Independance. My spacific field tends towards the history of magic
> > and science and its relation to the time period at hand on a cause and
> > effect basis. In any case right now I am interested the art and effects of
> > espionage during not only the WO1812 but also during the Am. Rev. and the
> > Fr. and Indian  War.
> >
> > In any case I look forward to interacting with the group. I am presently
> > located in Knoxville and a member of the Tennessee Mountain Settlers. I
> > have recently relocated here from NY where I did a lot of work with the NY
>3rd
> >
> > Have a great day
> > Tommy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of
>square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS of
>square miles...
> >
> > Unit Contact information for North America:
> >    ---------------------------------
> > Crown Forces Unit Listing:
> > <http://1812crownforces.tripod.com>http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
> >
> > American Forces Unit Listing
> > <http://usforces1812.tripod.com>http://usforces1812.tripod.com
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of
>square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS
>of square miles...
>
>Unit Contact information for North America:
>    ---------------------------------
>Crown Forces Unit Listing:
><http://1812crownforces.tripod.com>http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
>
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><http://usforces1812.tripod.com>http://usforces1812.tripod.com
>
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Passing along the following information as received.
Dave Westhouse
Royal Scots



The Sackets Harbor Battlefield State Historic Site is pleased to
announce the War of 1812 living history weekend for re-enactors will
be held on Saturday and Sunday August 5 and 6, 2006.

At this time, please extend our invitation to your associates. A more
detailed announcement will follow.

We look forward to seeing you in Sackets next August!

Connie Barone & Steve Wallace


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2006 WAR Of 1812 Events List
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Jan 6-8  New Orleans - Chalmette, LA

Feb 18-19 Battle of Ogdensburg – Ogdensburg, NY

Apr 22-23 Crown Forces School - Fort York, Toronto, ON

May 6-7     Longwoods - London, ON
May 13-14 North West Company War of 1812 - Pine City, MN
May 19-21 School of the Sailor - Toronto-Hamilton, ON
May 27-28 Ft. Meigs 1813 - Perrysburg, OH

June 2-4   Battle of Stoney Creek – Stoney Creek, ON
June 10-11 Georgina Militia Muster - Sutton, ON
June 24-25 1812 Grand Tactical - Genesee Village - Mumford, NY

July 8-9   Crysler's Farm - Morrisburg, ON
July 14-16 Prairie du Chien - WI
July 21-23 Wasaga under Siege - Wasaga Beach, ON
July 29-30 Fort Niagara - Youngstown, NY

Aug 5-6   Sacket's Harbor – Sacket's Harbor, NY
Aug 12-13 Fort Erie - Fort Erie, ON

Sept 9-10        Backus Mill – Port Rowan, ON
Sept 23-24      Fanshawe Village - London, ON
Sept 30-Oct 1 Faire at the Forks - Chatham, ON

Oct 13-15 Mississinewa 1812 - Marion, IN


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2006 CROWN FORCES EVENTS
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Apr. 22-23 Crown Forces School, Fort York, Toronto

Sat Apr. 22 Infantry Officer & NCO School of Instruction
('ONLY' Crown Forces Officers and NCO's to attend)

Sat Apr.22 Historical Cooking Workshop
(All Crown Forces cooks encouraged to attend)

Sun Apr.23 Artillery Officer & Crew School of Instruction
(Crown Forces Artillery Officers/Crews encouraged to attend)
.........

May 6-7 Longwoods - London, ON
(Crown Forces Event - All Crown Forces encouraged to attend)
.........

May 19-21 School of the Sailor - Toronto-Hamilton, ON
(All Crown Navy Forces encouraged to attend)
.........

June 24-25 Annual 1812 Grand Tactical
Genesee Country Village - Mumford, NY
(All Crown and USA Forces encouraged to attend)
.........

July 8-9 Crysler's Farm - Morrisburg, ON
(Crown Forces Event - All Crown Forces encouraged to attend)


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=
2006 NAPOLEONIC EVENTS
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=

Apr 21-23 Peninsula War - Anza, CA

Sept 1-3 Brigade Napoléon Grand Encampment - Bedford, PA

- ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ -

Oct 5-7       2007 Mississinewa 1812 - Marion, IN
Oct 10-12  2008 Mississinewa 1812 - Marion, IN

- ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ -

DISCLAIMER:
The above dates have been sent to me for publication.
Dates and Locations posted as received.
Dates may change without notice, it is advisable to
contact the site co-ordinator to verify date and location.

Yrs.,
Larry Lozon - AdC
Crown Forces North America

When do the doors open?
Murray

Greetings Murray and List,
  From the Historic Merchants Christmas Gathering site:
Saturday, December 3rd, 2005, 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m
in our wonderful new venue:
Hamilton City Hall,
71 Main Street West (at Bay Street), Hamilton, Ontario
There you go. I hope to see many of you there.
Best regards,
Bruce Whittaker

I think it works a "1 degree of separation", so in your case below that would
be 1 degree.
Naturally, there would be no degree of separation from Jay Saunders.
And most of us on here may be only one degree from Johnny Depp due to General
Twist.
(Howz dat for getting it back to an 1812 track?)


In a message dated 28/11/2005 6:11:31 AM, sgtwarner@... writes:


> Oh...So George Clooney is the new Kevin Bacon?!
> I wonder how he feels about that?
> Now here's the thing....What constitutes 1degree, 2degrees etc?
> I worked with Jay Saunders and he was in JFK with Bacon. Is that 1 or 
> 2 degrees?
>
>
>   Craig
>
> > It is, but Clooney is more "recent" and "it". (Not taking away from 
> > Bacon,
> > but then it does at the same time doesn't it? Oh well...)
> >
> > B (I think I'm one degree away from both)
>





93rd SHRoFLHU
THE Thin Red Line
93rdhighlanders.com


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

actually the way it works is Kevin Bacon has a Bacon rating of 0.  Anyone
who has worked with him has a rating of 1 (1 degree off of being Kevin
Bacon) thus if you worked with someone who has worked with Kevin Bacon you
have a bacon rating of 2 and they told two friends and so on and so
on........

This site will explain it all
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/oracle/

Kevin
89th Reg't



----- Original Message -----


I think it works a "1 degree of separation", so in your case below that
would
be 1 degree.
Naturally, there would be no degree of separation from Jay Saunders.
And most of us on here may be only one degree from Johnny Depp due to
General
Twist.
(Howz dat for getting it back to an 1812 track?)

Sweeeet!

C
On 30-Nov-05, at 6:04 PM, HQ93rd@... wrote:

> I think it works a "1 degree of separation", so in your case below
> that would
> be 1 degree.
> Naturally, there would be no degree of separation from Jay Saunders.
> And most of us on here may be only one degree from Johnny Depp due
> to General
> Twist.
> (Howz dat for getting it back to an 1812 track?)
>
>
> In a message dated 28/11/2005 6:11:31 AM, sgtwarner@...
> writes:
>
>
>> Oh...So George Clooney is the new Kevin Bacon?!
>> I wonder how he feels about that?
>> Now here's the thing....What constitutes 1degree, 2degrees etc?
>> I worked with Jay Saunders and he was in JFK with Bacon. Is that 1 or
>> 2 degrees?
>>
>>
>>   Craig
>>
>>> It is, but Clooney is more "recent" and "it". (Not taking away from
>>> Bacon,
>>> but then it does at the same time doesn't it? Oh well...)
>>>
>>> B (I think I'm one degree away from both)
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> 93rd SHRoFLHU
> THE Thin Red Line
> 93rdhighlanders.com
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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> The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of
> hundreds of square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the
> fate of THOUSANDS of square miles...
>
> Unit Contact information for North America:
>    ---------------------------------
> Crown Forces Unit Listing:
> http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
>
> American Forces Unit Listing
> http://usforces1812.tripod.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

> In a message dated 11/27/2005 9:06:44 PM Central Standard Time, 
> md5_yager@... writes:
>
> US  "Empire" ?  Didn't know that. Had read that Florida was added to the 
> Disney Empire, in 1971.
>
>
> In a message dated 28/11/2005 10:12:35 AM, BritcomHMP@... writes:
>
> Ah no, the Disney Empire made its move on Europe too soon and will 
> doubtless
> be taking over further US posessions until it can acheve world  hegemony and
> force everyone to smile all day and all children to wear  'Mouseketeer' ears
> during daylight hours.
>
> Be afraid, be very afraid!
>

Not to mention Asia.

It gets even worse -- The Empire moved New York to Burbank. Now you know your
ABC - s.

B
93rd SHRoFLHU
THE Thin Red Line
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Oh, to be sure. We pointed out this (the word fusillade) as well, but
noooooo...the idiot would never let go of his made-up word, "fusilage".
Ah, what grand times we've had.....

In a message dated 28/11/2005 6:46:32 AM, ciefranche21e@... writes:
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: PEGGY MATHEWS<mailto:ciefranche21e@...>
>   To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com<mailto:WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
>   Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:20 AM
>   Subject: Re: [WarOf1812] A Question for the list - Fuzil - Fusil and the
> British Army in 1812
>
>   Though there is a "fusillade."  Probably just a confusion of terms and
> clearly<?> derived from the term fusil.  From the Princeton Dictionary
website:
>
>   Noun
>     a.. S (n) fusillade, salvo, volley, burst (rapid simultaneous discharge
> of firearms) "our fusillade from the left flank caught them by surprise"
>   Verb
>     a.. S: (v) fusillade (attack with fusillade)
>

HQ93rd wrote:
>> A bit off tangent, but General Tim will recall, a few years ago an
outrageous discussion began on an 1812 message board regarding the Battle of New
Orleans involving a complete prat whose entire argument came from movies,
schoolboy books, and cloud cuckoo land.
In the midst of this idiocy, the dolt at one time informed us all of the
"fusilage" made by the American "riflemen", and like a dog with an old rag would
not let go. Ever.
Even when it was pointed a "fusilage" (sic) is part of an airplane, or
otherwise not a word at all. (see: fuselage, fusillade, etc.)

"Lord, what fools these mortals be..." -- Shakespeare.
<<



93rd SHRoFLHU
THE Thin Red Line
93rdhighlanders.com


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J.Bruce Whittaker wrote:

>Greetings Murray and List,
> From the Historic Merchants Christmas Gathering site:
>Saturday, December 3rd, 2005, 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m
>in our wonderful new venue:
>Hamilton City Hall,
>71 Main Street West (at Bay Street), Hamilton, Ontario
>There you go. I hope to see many of you there.
>Best regards,
>Bruce Whittaker
>
>
Thanks once again, Bruce!  If you're not careful, we're going to draft
you for the committee for next year's event . . . :-)

Just wanted to add my tuppence 'orth.  There is free parking for the
event behind City Hall -- the drill is to park your vehicle, come inside
the building and pick up a parking pass from one of our lovely and
charming charming door volunteers (drawn from the 10th Royal Veterans
and the Stoney Creek House Guard), then put the pass in your vehicle's
window so that the commissionaires won't ticket you.

A map and directions are available through a link from our website at
www.historicmerchants.com/xmasgathering.html.  The parking lot is
accessible from MacNab, Hunter, and Bay Streets.

Box lunches will be available onsite, with the proceeds going to help
support the event for next year.  Four and Twenty Blackbirds will also
be onsite with their usual treats for those of us who suffer from a
sweet tooth.

We're up to over 30 merchants (not quite Mississinewa yet, but we're
working on it!), plus a number of display tables from sites and events
and of course display and recruiting tables from a variety of local
re-enactment groups.

As always, do feel free to call or e-mail if you have any questions.
I'm now getting to the point where I can't wait for the event to happen
(and not only because I'm looking forward to actually getting some sleep
once it's over . . . !).

Hope to see you there,
-- Sioux