List:
In the light of the recent discussion on the list about support of US
events, the following will be of interest.

At its Annual General Meeting yesterday, the 41st Regiment of Foot,
HQ'd in Hamilton, Ontario, planned its 2006 season. Our pattern is to
choose three "all-up" events, and then several authorized events for
the season.
Our three all-up events for 2006 are:

May  -  Siege of Fort Meigs, Perrysburg, Ohio

June -  Grand Tactical Genesee Village - Mumford, NY

Aug  -  Fort Niagara - Youngstown, NY

Please note that all are in the United States. The decision was
unanimous. Here's to a great 2006.
Yrs etc.

Ray Hobbs
CO 41st Regt
Hamilton, Ontario

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Shiners,

     Some of you may have already read this, but for  those that have not,
this is why we check equipment again and again and again,  safety first,
authenticity second. fun third.



<<Oh crap... this is all we need?!?
Marsh

Greetings  All:

Yesterday, a member of the LAH was participating in a Civil War
re-enactment when he was shot by a live round.  Fortunately, it appears
he's going to be OK but it just goes to show how dangerous our hobby can
be when safety and ammo inspections are not conducted by event
coordinators.  As many of you know, this is not the first incident of
this kind in our hobby.  Below is the account of the incident by  another
participant.  I have changed the names to protect their  identity.

Dale Taylor
Kommandeur,  1.LSSAH

Gentleman,

While at a civil war event this past weekend,  Joe Smith and I saw
what could have been a fatal mistake and could have got  some people
killed. This is my account of what happened. I was  there.

Joe and I decided to go to the Demarie Festival this past  weekend.  This
is a small event that alot of local reenactors go to.  When we got there
we saw several people that we knew. We decided to do  Confederate this
weekend. This was a small reenactment that turned into a  nightmare. What
happened is the normal progression of a civil war battle.  First there
was a cannon assault like normal.Then the Calvary went on the  field and
fought. Then the infantry formed a line and started to give fire
support. This is when the reenactment turned bad.

I was on the  infantry line. I went to one knee and started to load my
weapon. I went to  my cartridge box, grabbed a black powder cartridge and
went to load. I  fumbled the cartridge. It fell to the ground. I
picked-up the cartridge and  poured the black powder down the barrel. I
then went to cap the weapon.  That's when I heard "I'm hit, someone is
using live rounds and I'm hit". I  looked up and saw John Doe with blood
squirting out two spots on his hand. I  then dropped my weapon and went
over to him and looked at both of his  wounds.  He had been shot. By what
I didn't know and at the time didn't  care. I then put pressure on the
wounds and yelled for a cloth. Someone gave  me cloth
and I wrapped his hand and kept pressure on it. I elevated his hand  and
tried to keep John calm. An off duty police officer asked me if he
needed a ambulance. I said yes.

The Paramedics came and looked John  over. They were going to airlift him
to St. Johns Mercy but John Said " If  you have drugs, I'll ride".  The
paramedics wanted to look him over  some more and wanted to cut off his
uniform. John said " you are not cutting  off this uniform". His uniform
by that time had blood all over it. The  paramedics loaded him up and
took John to the hospital.

What I saw  was John took a hit from a small caliber gun or a piece of
shrapnel. I saw a  entry wound to the right of John's middle knuckle and
a exit wound by wrist  with a large knot in the middle.

Then the police came.. The officers  asked me alot of questions. They
wanted to know what happened and I told  them.

To make a long story short, here's what the police found. A minor  had a
modern style .22 cal pistol. There was also a modern break open style
short barrel shotgun that was used. It appears that this minor didn't
check to see if the gun had blanks or live rounds in it. It appears that
the .22 had live rounds. It also appears that the minor shot 5 live
rounds at the confederates. One of the rounds hitting John Doe in the
hand. Other people at the reenactment heard the impact of the rounds
hitting around the hill they were sitting on. I don't know what happen
to the minor in question but I do know the police talked to the minor
with the shot gun and the .22 cal pistol.

I saw the minor with the  .22 cal pistol and a quick draw style holster
before the reenactment. I said  that the pistol and holster didn't belong
on the battlefield. I was not with  that group and I don't think that
minor was supervised.

There was not  a safety check of weapons at this event. No one looked at
any of the weapons  or uniforms at this event to see if they were up to
standards. If there was,  this little incident wouldn't have happened. I
saw this minor quick drawing  this pistol in front of his friends. If
this minor would have drawn and shot  that pistol at short range, he
would have killed someone. That someone might  have been me or one of his
friends. NOT GOOD...

I haven't heard from  John. I hope he's doing fine. If this shot would
have been 6-8 inches to  John's right, he might have taken a direct to
the chest area. The minor  endangered me, all the reenactors and public.

I guess I'm telling you  this story to reiterate what I consider to be
basic safety measures with  firearms.  Always check your firearms.. Make
sure they are in proper  working order with the BFD affixed. NEVER BRING
LIVE ROUNDS TO A  REENACTMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Always have safety and uniform checks at all  reenactments...>>





Your Most  Humble and Obedient Servant
Captain Michael Monahan
Grenadier  Company
His Majesty's Fifth Regiment of Foot
(In  America)


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Big thanks are due to all of the good people who put together and ran
the Faire at the Forks this past weekend!  After a challenging kids' day
on Friday (3800+ anklebiters!), we settled into a lovely and relaxing
weekend.  The weather was fantastic -- not too hot, not too cold, not
too wet!  From my viewpoint, the merchants' area was better organized
than ever (thanks especially to Gayle from Four and Twenty Blackbirds!),
and it was great to see some new high-quality additions to our number.
Welcome especially to Doug Loveland ("Crude Pottery From The Crude
Potter").  Many of you will know Doug and Laurie (and kids) from their
long careers as re-enactors -- turns out our Doug has been a potter for
years, and his wares are well worth checking out next time you see him.

Huzzah to the committee and to all of the volunteers who gave their
time, energy, and dedication to make this another good event.

Cheers,
-- Sioux

(Apologies for the cross-posting, and to those of you who get this more
than once . . .)

Details of the Sixth Annual Historic Merchants' Christmas Gathering are
now settled, and we're delighted to announce that this year's event will
be held at Hamilton City Hall, 71 Main Street West (at Main and Bay), in
Hamilton, Ontario, on Saturday, December 3rd, from 10:00 am to 4:00
p.m.  Especially exciting is the news that this year we will be joined
by the gift shops from the Seven Museums of Hamilton, each of which will
have a display and sales table to further expand the range of goods
available for purchase.  As in previous years, many of the better
quality historic merchants from across Ontario will be set up onsite for
your shopping pleasure.  There will also be door prizes, a silent
auction, and strolling musicians, as well as display tables from
museums, historic sites, re-enactment groups, and upcoming events.

Admission this year will be free of charge for everyone, but those who
come dressed in period garb will be eligible for a special door prize.
We have arranged free parking for the day in the City Hall parking lot
(behind City Hall, accessible from MacNab or Bay streets -- love those
Hamilton one-way streets!).  City Hall is also quite easily accessible
by public transit and GO Trains, and it's a very short walk from the
"Antiques Alley" Locke Street area.

Further details will be posted as they are confirmed on the event's
website at www.HistoricMerchants.com, where you'll also find a link to a
map to the event.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me off-list at
info@spencersmercantile, or my event co-chair, Chris Bingham, at
christine_bingham1@....  Any merchants wishing to participate
should contact Chris directly for information and an application package.

Hope to see you there!
-- Sioux

OK Michael, so let's review.

The guilty party was a minor, so I assume we are talking of someone who should
not have been on the field with a weapon in the first place.
The weapons he and his friends were carrying were not period correct, in fact
they were modern.
The individual had been observed 'showing off' with said weapon earlier in the
day and was then allowed to take the field with it.

So what you are saying here is that there was a total lack of supervision by his
officers and NCOs, this is exactly why we once had a rule in the NA British
forces that any person in direct command of troops must not, under any
circumstances, fire a weapon with the men. The job of the officers (including
NCOs whith direct command) is command and control, watching the men, moving
them, checking on their safety.
On a higher level what happened to the safety inspection? if there wasn't one
the high up heads should roll, if there was one and this individual was allowed
on the field his imediate commaners head should roll. If this idiot was banned
from the field and then seeked on anyway there needs to be a serious review of
security and as an indivitual he needs to be banned from re-enactment for life
and his particulars circulated to other period organisations. Harsh? Well if we
don't police ourselves the Police will!

Cheers

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: KILTONE@...

Subject: [WarOf1812] reenactor shot with live round


Shiners,

     Some of you may have already read this, but for  those that have not,
this is why we check equipment again and again and again,  safety first,
authenticity second. fun third.



<<Oh crap... this is all we need?!?
Marsh


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Obviously Katrina has changed things in St. Bernard Parish and we have yet to
get all the details though I hope to have most of the points sorted out by the
end of this week so that I can brief everyone at Mississinewa.
Firstly it looks as though the NPS will not be having a commemoration next year,
at least officially, however St, Bernard Parish is determined that the Torres
Park re-enactment WILL go ahead though they would prefer to have it on the
previous weekend to that previously announced (by the NPS) which would be the
actual anniversary weekend, the 7th and 8th January.

Doing this would probably mean that we would 'flip' our venues, spending most of
Saturday at Torres Park with a short trip over to the battlefield to have a
commemoration ceremony. The likely scenario here is to to have the commemoration
in the morning and the re-enactment in the afternoon with the rest of the day
being used as display time for people coming to Torres Park.

This will be the first tourist event in St. Bernard since Katrina devastated the
place, we will have a very significant part in helping that community pick
itself up and get working again, here is a real way that we can truly help the
victims of Katrina by doing what we know, love and do best. It is an opportunity
that may never come again and certainly one that we will be able to look back on
with pride.

As a bonus I am looking into us taking part in the Battle of New Orleans
commemorations on Sunday in Jackson Square with the various historical
societies, again a great opportunity to show we care and to win friends and
influence people.

As an added bonus the exhibition 'The Terrible and the Brave, the Battle of New
Orleans' will still be running through the 8th of January so you will be able to
see that while you are there too. Steve Abolt and I are still working out the
details but this will be one of the most significant commemoration weekends
ever.

God bless you all,

Tim


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     WAR Of 1812 Events List
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Oct 7-9     Mississinewa 1812 Marion Ind.

Nov 5-6     Muster on the Wabash, Vincennes, IN

Dec 3        Annual Historic Merchants' Christmas Gathering

Jan 14-15 New Orleans - Chalmette, LA

Apr 21-23 Peninsula War - Anza, CA
Apr 22-23 Crown Forces School - Fort York, Toronto

May 6-7      Longwoods - London, ON
May 13-14 North West Company War of 1812 - Pine City, MN
May 19-21 School of the Sailor - Amherstburg, ON

June 24-25 1812 Grand Tactical Genesee Village - Mumford, NY

July 8-9     Crysler's Farm - Morrisburg, ON
July 14-16 Prairie du Chien - WI
July 21-23 Wasaga under Siege - Wasaga Beach, ON

Aug 12-13 Fort Erie - Fort Erie, ON
Aug 19-20 Fort Niagara - Youngstown, NY

Sept 1-3     Brigade Napoléon Grand Encampment - Old Bedford PA
Sept 23-24 Fanshawe Village - London, ON

Oct 13-15 Mississinewa 1812 - Marion, IN


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=
2006 Crown Forces Events
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=

Apr. 22-23 Crown Forces School, Fort York, Toronto

Sat Apr. 22 Infantry Officer & NCO School of Instruction
('ONLY' Crown Forces Officers and NCO's to attend)

Sat Apr.22 Historical Cooking Workshop
(All Crown Forces cooks encouraged to attend)

Sun Apr.23 Artillery Officer & Crew School of Instruction
(Crown Forces Artillery Officers/Crews encouraged to attend)
........

May 6-7 Longwoods - London, ON
(Crown Forces Event - All Crown Forces encouraged to attend)
........

May 19-21 School of the Sailor Amherstburg, ON
(All Crown Navy Forces encouraged to attend)
........

June 24-25 Annual 1812 Grand Tactical
Genesee Country Village, Mumford, NY
(All Crown and USA Forces encouraged to attend)
........

July 8-9 Crysler's Farm - Morrisburg, ON
(Crown Forces Event - All Crown Forces encouraged to attend)

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DISCLAIMER:
The above dates have been sent to me for publication.
Dates and Locations posted as received.
Dates may change without notice, it is advisable to
contact the site co-ordinator to verify date and location.


Yrs.,
Larry Lozon - AdC
Crown Forces North America

Chatham was a great event to finish up the season for us. See you all
next year.  I've put up some pictures from the weekend.
http://glengarrylightinfantry.ca

Regards
Bill

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, Susan Spencer <susan@m...> wrote:
> Big thanks are due to all of the good people who put together and ran
> the Faire at the Forks this past weekend!  After a challenging kids'
day
> on Friday (3800+ anklebiters!), we settled into a lovely and relaxing
> weekend.  The weather was fantastic -- not too hot, not too cold, not
> too wet!  From my viewpoint, the merchants' area was better organized
> than ever (thanks especially to Gayle from Four and Twenty
Blackbirds!),
> and it was great to see some new high-quality additions to our number.
> Welcome especially to Doug Loveland ("Crude Pottery From The Crude
> Potter").  Many of you will know Doug and Laurie (and kids) from their
> long careers as re-enactors -- turns out our Doug has been a potter for
> years, and his wares are well worth checking out next time you see him.
>
> Huzzah to the committee and to all of the volunteers who gave their
> time, energy, and dedication to make this another good event.
>
> Cheers,
> -- Sioux

Dear Sir Larry

Please change School of the Sailor location to 'Toronto-Hamilton, Ontario'.
Thanks.
Vic
----- Original Message -----
From: "lalozon" <lalozon@...>
To: "Onelist WarOf1812" <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>; "Onelist 1812 Crown
Forces" <1812CrownForces@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 9:40 AM
Subject: [WarOf1812] WAR Of 1812 Events List


> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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>
> Oct 7-9     Mississinewa 1812 Marion Ind.
>
> Nov 5-6     Muster on the Wabash, Vincennes, IN
>
> Dec 3        Annual Historic Merchants' Christmas Gathering
>
> Jan 14-15 New Orleans - Chalmette, LA
>
> Apr 21-23 Peninsula War - Anza, CA
> Apr 22-23 Crown Forces School - Fort York, Toronto
>
> May 6-7      Longwoods - London, ON
> May 13-14 North West Company War of 1812 - Pine City, MN
> May 19-21 School of the Sailor - Amherstburg, ON
>
> June 24-25 1812 Grand Tactical Genesee Village - Mumford, NY
>
> July 8-9     Crysler's Farm - Morrisburg, ON
> July 14-16 Prairie du Chien - WI
> July 21-23 Wasaga under Siege - Wasaga Beach, ON
>
> Aug 12-13 Fort Erie - Fort Erie, ON
> Aug 19-20 Fort Niagara - Youngstown, NY
>
> Sept 1-3     Brigade Napoléon Grand Encampment - Old Bedford PA
> Sept 23-24 Fanshawe Village - London, ON
>
> Oct 13-15 Mississinewa 1812 - Marion, IN
>
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=
> 2006 Crown Forces Events
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=
>
> Apr. 22-23 Crown Forces School, Fort York, Toronto
>
> Sat Apr. 22 Infantry Officer & NCO School of Instruction
> ('ONLY' Crown Forces Officers and NCO's to attend)
>
> Sat Apr.22 Historical Cooking Workshop
> (All Crown Forces cooks encouraged to attend)
>
> Sun Apr.23 Artillery Officer & Crew School of Instruction
> (Crown Forces Artillery Officers/Crews encouraged to attend)
> ........
>
> May 6-7 Longwoods - London, ON
> (Crown Forces Event - All Crown Forces encouraged to attend)
> ........
>
> May 19-21 School of the Sailor Amherstburg, ON
> (All Crown Navy Forces encouraged to attend)
> ........
>
> June 24-25 Annual 1812 Grand Tactical
> Genesee Country Village, Mumford, NY
> (All Crown and USA Forces encouraged to attend)
> ........
>
> July 8-9 Crysler's Farm - Morrisburg, ON
> (Crown Forces Event - All Crown Forces encouraged to attend)
>
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>
> DISCLAIMER:
> The above dates have been sent to me for publication.
> Dates and Locations posted as received.
> Dates may change without notice, it is advisable to
> contact the site co-ordinator to verify date and location.
>
>
> Yrs.,
> Larry Lozon - AdC
> Crown Forces North America
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of
square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS of
square miles...
>
> Unit Contact information for North America:
>    ---------------------------------
> Crown Forces Unit Listing:
> http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
>
> American Forces Unit Listing
> http://usforces1812.tripod.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Huzzah for the 41st!
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From: ray hobbs <ray.hobbs@...>
Date: 2005/10/02 Sun AM 09:31:19 EST
To: War1812 <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [WarOf1812] 41st "All-up" schedule 2006

List:
In the light of the recent discussion on the list about support of US
events, the following will be of interest.

At its Annual General Meeting yesterday, the 41st Regiment of Foot,
HQ'd in Hamilton, Ontario, planned its 2006 season. Our pattern is to
choose three "all-up" events, and then several authorized events for
the season.
Our three all-up events for 2006 are:

May  -  Siege of Fort Meigs, Perrysburg, Ohio

June -  Grand Tactical Genesee Village - Mumford, NY

Aug  -  Fort Niagara - Youngstown, NY

Please note that all are in the United States. The decision was
unanimous. Here's to a great 2006.
Yrs etc.

Ray Hobbs
CO 41st Regt
Hamilton, Ontario

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The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of square
miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS of square
miles...

Unit Contact information for North America:
    ---------------------------------
Crown Forces Unit Listing:
http://1812crownforces.tripod.com

American Forces Unit Listing
http://usforces1812.tripod.com
Yahoo! Groups Links





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Peter Monahan
petermonahan@...
705-435-0953 home

From: ray hobbs <ray.hobbs@...>

At its Annual General Meeting ... the 41st Regiment ... planned its 2006
season ... Our three all-up events for 2006 are: May ... Fort Meigs ...
June - Grand Tactical Genesee Village ... Aug - Fort Niagara






I am informed that the 41st Regiment shall also be in attendance at "ALL"
Crown Forces Events

... with many new recruits!!


Yrs.,
    L2

In a recent discussion on this list about cigars/tobacco being present in
Upper Canada, I have found  some information.  In 1822 (a few years after
the war) John McGregor and William Chrysler of Kent county, had crops of
tobacco that produced as much as 2000 pounds per acre.  There was also a
duty on leaf tobacco inported from the US.
     The article does not say anything about tobacco being produced in Kent
during 1812-1814, but the soil conditions and weather were favourable for
tobacco as well as a market for it.

Mark Dickerson

Has anyone heard if there will be a Living History Conference in Canada
in 2006, and if so, where and when and hosted by whom?

-- Sioux

> Welcome especially to Doug Loveland ("Crude Pottery From The Crude
> Potter").  Many of you will know Doug and Laurie (and kids) from their
> long careers as re-enactors -- turns out our Doug has been a potter for
> years, and his wares are well worth checking out next time you see him.
>

Thanks, Susan, for your kind words... your esteemed presence is a most
welcome addition to any event you grace with your attendance.

And thanks also to those of you who stopped by to browse and, contrary
to expectations, buy.  I may be persuaded to bring the wheel out a few
times next year...

> Huzzah to the committee and to all of the volunteers who gave their
> time, energy, and dedication to make this another good event.

agreed, always a most enjoyable event... sorry we missed the Sunday.

Good heavens, I blush (yet again!).

And I calls 'em as I sees 'em -- it's great to have some good quality,
authentic pottery on the row in Canada at long last!

Cheers,
-- Sioux

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, <suthren@m...> wrote:
> Dear Sir Larry
>
> Please change School of the Sailor location to 'Toronto-Hamilton,
Ontario'.
> Thanks.
> Vic

Done on behalf of Uncle Larry.
Corporal Westhouse.


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2006 WAR Of 1812 Events List
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Jan 14-15 New Orleans - Chalmette, LA

Apr 21-23 Peninsula War - Anza, CA
Apr 22-23 Crown Forces School - Fort York, Toronto

May 6-7 Longwoods - London, ON
May 13-14 North West Company War of 1812 - Pine City, MN
May 19-21 School of the Sailor – Toronto-Hamilton, ON

June 24-25 1812 Grand Tactical Genesee Village - Mumford, NY

July 8-9 Crysler's Farm - Morrisburg, ON
July 14-16 Prairie du Chien – WI
July 21-23 Wasaga under Siege - Wasaga Beach, ON

Aug 12-13 Fort Erie - Fort Erie, ON
Aug 19-20 Fort Niagara - Youngstown, NY

Sept 1-3 Brigade Napoléon Grand Encampment (Tactique) - Old Bedford
Village, PA
Sept 23-24 Fanshawe Village - London, ON

Oct 13-15 Mississinewa 1812 – Marion, IN


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=
2006 Crown Forces Events
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=

Apr. 22-23 Crown Forces School, Fort York, Toronto

Sat Apr. 22 Infantry Officer & NCO School of Instruction
('ONLY' Crown Forces Officers and NCO's to attend)

Sat Apr.22 Historical Cooking Workshop
(All Crown Forces cooks encouraged to attend)

Sun Apr.23 Artillery Officer & Crew School of Instruction
(Crown Forces Artillery Officers/Crews encouraged to attend)
........

May 6-7 Longwoods - London, ON
(Crown Forces Event - All Crown Forces encouraged to attend)
........

May 19-21 School of the Sailor Amherstburg, ON
(All Crown Navy Forces encouraged to attend)
........

June 24-25 Annual 1812 Grand Tactical
Genesee Country Village, Mumford, NY
(All Crown and USA Forces encouraged to attend)
........

July 8-9 Crysler's Farm - Morrisburg, ON
(Crown Forces Event - All Crown Forces encouraged to attend)

- ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ -

DISCLAIMER:
The above dates have been sent to me for publication.
Dates and Locations posted as received.
Dates may change without notice, it is advisable to
contact the site co-ordinator to verify date and location.

Yrs.,
Larry Lozon - AdC
Crown Forces North America

Forgot to change one other spot.
Here it is again.


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2006 WAR Of 1812 Events List
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Jan 14-15 New Orleans - Chalmette, LA

Apr 21-23 Peninsula War - Anza, CA
Apr 22-23 Crown Forces School - Fort York, Toronto

May 6-7 Longwoods - London, ON
May 13-14 North West Company War of 1812 - Pine City, MN
May 19-21 School of the Sailor – Toronto-Hamilton, ON

June 24-25 1812 Grand Tactical Genesee Village - Mumford, NY

July 8-9 Crysler's Farm - Morrisburg, ON
July 14-16 Prairie du Chien – WI
July 21-23 Wasaga under Siege - Wasaga Beach, ON

Aug 12-13 Fort Erie - Fort Erie, ON
Aug 19-20 Fort Niagara - Youngstown, NY

Sept 1-3 Brigade Napoléon Grand Encampment (Tactique) - Old Bedford
Village, PA
Sept 23-24 Fanshawe Village - London, ON

Oct 13-15 Mississinewa 1812 – Marion, IN


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=
2006 Crown Forces Events
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=

Apr. 22-23 Crown Forces School, Fort York, Toronto

Sat Apr. 22 Infantry Officer & NCO School of Instruction
('ONLY' Crown Forces Officers and NCO's to attend)

Sat Apr.22 Historical Cooking Workshop
(All Crown Forces cooks encouraged to attend)

Sun Apr.23 Artillery Officer & Crew School of Instruction
(Crown Forces Artillery Officers/Crews encouraged to attend)
........

May 6-7 Longwoods - London, ON
(Crown Forces Event - All Crown Forces encouraged to attend)
........

May 19-21 School of the Sailor - Toronto-Hamilton, ON
(All Crown Navy Forces encouraged to attend)
........

June 24-25 Annual 1812 Grand Tactical
Genesee Country Village, Mumford, NY
(All Crown and USA Forces encouraged to attend)
........

July 8-9 Crysler's Farm - Morrisburg, ON
(Crown Forces Event - All Crown Forces encouraged to attend)

- ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ -

DISCLAIMER:
The above dates have been sent to me for publication.
Dates and Locations posted as received.
Dates may change without notice, it is advisable to
contact the site co-ordinator to verify date and location.

Yrs.,
Larry Lozon - AdC
Crown Forces North America

I am requested to inform all who are attending ....
Commanders please inform your troops




Mississinewa 1812 Marion, Indiana, USA
___________________________



More than 140 merchants, artisans and food purveyors

More than 20 food purveyors

Crown Forces Corps of Drums are the guest Fife and Drum unit for 2006

Free dance, food and beverages (adult beverages!) in the BIG tent Saturday
evening


========

Weather per  The Weather Channel (USA)
  http://search.weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USIN0390.html

Oct 6   Thursday
Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the mid 60s and lows in the upper 30s.

Oct 7   Friday
Times of sun and clouds. Highs in the low 60s and lows in the upper 30s.

Oct 8   Saturday
Abundant sunshine. Highs in the low 60s and lows in the low 30s.

Oct 9   Sunday
Sunny. Highs in the upper 60s and lows in the mid 30s.

Oct 10   Monday
A few clouds. Highs in the mid 60s and lows in the low 40s.

If you take an umbrella it WON'T rain

If you take an overcoat it WON'T be cold

If you take a wide brimmed hat it WON'T be too sunny
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If you are crossing at Port Huron or Detroit from Canada

I-96 W
I-69 S
IN18W Exit
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Clothing Seminar Saturday and Sunday in the big tent

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Next year, Oct 13-15 Mississinewa 1812 will not be on the Canadian
Thanksgiving


Event website: http://www.mississinewa1812.com


Safe trip - see you there .......

Yrs.,
   L2

I wish all the lucky participants a marvellous
weekend, above all have fun, travel safely and take
care.

P**

List,

  I'm posting the Springfield Carbine for Lucky Dave Cox. It is a
1795 Springfield pattern, 1814 date on the lock, carbine bore (.66)
with carbine clip and sling. This would be a great gun for a mounted
militia impression. Dave is asking $900 for the gun and it can be
seen in the SPRINGFIELD & HARPERS FERRY folder in the PHOTOS
section. Email Dave with questions or comments at
DavidCox341@....

  I've got an 1803 Harper's Ferry I'm needing to sell and thought I'd
offer it to y'all before going elsewhere with it. Pictures can be
found in the SPRINGFIELD & HARPERS FERRY folder.

  I'm a secondhand owner of this particular gun and am not sure how
old it is but the gun is in very good shape. There are a few minor
dings and scratches to the stock but the metal is all in good shape.
The browning on the barrel is still intact and there is still
blueing on the lock. The only thing that's really wrong with this
gun is the patchbox tends to pop open from time to time. The lock
sparks well and goes off consistently and from what I've been told
the gun shoots straight though I've never put any roundball through
it myself.

  I failed to look at the markings on the barrel before coming in
today but there are a list of makers that offer the '03 Harper's
Ferry. Dixie Gunworks is currently selling their '03 for $850 and
I'm putting mine up for $650 but I'm willing to haggle a bit if
you're interested. I've got a hammerstall I'll throw in and I think
there's a flashguard for it somewhere around here that I'll throw in
if I can find it. This would make someone a good gun for anything
from War of 1812 to Texian War of Indepepndence events.

  Feel free to email me at tejanodiablo@... or call me in the
evenings at 936 399-9944. If you can't reach me by phone at home you
can try me at work at 979 696-0513 ext. 680. Let me know if you have
any questions and we'll see you down the trail!

Dios, libertad y Tejas,
Scott McMahon
the ARMY OF THE PEOPLE
The Kentucky Mustangs

I just wanted to add my thanks to the organizers of Chatham this
year.  As always it was one of the highlights of the season.

Barry MacGregor

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, Susan Spencer <susan@m...> wrote:
> Big thanks are due to all of the good people who put together and
ran
> the Faire at the Forks this past weekend!  After a challenging
kids' day
> on Friday (3800+ anklebiters!), we settled into a lovely and
relaxing
> weekend.  The weather was fantastic -- not too hot, not too cold,
not
> too wet!  From my viewpoint, the merchants' area was better
organized
> than ever (thanks especially to Gayle from Four and Twenty
Blackbirds!),
> and it was great to see some new high-quality additions to our
number.
> Welcome especially to Doug Loveland ("Crude Pottery From The Crude
> Potter").  Many of you will know Doug and Laurie (and kids) from
their
> long careers as re-enactors -- turns out our Doug has been a
potter for
> years, and his wares are well worth checking out next time you see
him.
>
> Huzzah to the committee and to all of the volunteers who gave
their
> time, energy, and dedication to make this another good event.
>
> Cheers,
> -- Sioux

Hello list,

I have posted 4 photos of a sword in the photos section. A friend from
work found the sword in a hollowed out log on his farm in the Simcoe,
Ontario area. Southwestern Ontario.

It is complete with scabard and appears to me, the untrained eye, to
be a regular cavalry soldiers sword.

There are no identifiable marks on the blade or handle.

It is rather plain in appearance but in relatively good shape.

The question this gentleman has is how old is it? How would he find
out? What should he do with it, as in cleaning or restoring?

Thank you, any input would be greatly appreciated.

Dave Westhouse, Corporal
1st (Royal Scots) Grenadiers

Dear List,
We are in the midst of compiling favourite period and regular recipes
from re-enactors to create a cook book. This project is to raise
funds
for Heritage Days.

So far we have a good start, but need your help.

We would love to hear from you. If you'd would like to contribute a
favourite recipe (or more), please include your full name and Unit,
and
town, province/state.

You can email any submissions to glenfarms@...

Thanking you in advance,
Judie Glen
Glen Farms' Past Times
and
Gayle Allen
4 & 20 Blackbirds

Until somebody can come up with any confirmation that this actually
occurred, and recently, I'm going to have to call BS on this whole
thing. Names? Dates? Place? I tried a google search on them, nothing
comes up on this re injuries at a reenactment.

I've seen some whoppers before on the Internet, and I've learned to
become rather mistrustful about "sky is falling" types of posts and
news, until I see confirmation from multiple sources.

RWF

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, BritcomHMP@a... wrote:
> OK Michael, so let's review.
>
> The guilty party was a minor, so I assume we are talking of
someone who should not have been on the field with a weapon in the
first place.
> The weapons he and his friends were carrying were not period
correct, in fact they were modern.
> The individual had been observed 'showing off' with said weapon
earlier in the day and was then allowed to take the field with it.
>
> So what you are saying here is that there was a total lack of
supervision by his officers and NCOs, this is exactly why we once
had a rule in the NA British forces that any person in direct
command of troops must not, under any circumstances, fire a weapon
with the men. The job of the officers (including NCOs whith direct
command) is command and control, watching the men, moving them,
checking on their safety.
> On a higher level what happened to the safety inspection? if there
wasn't one the high up heads should roll, if there was one and this
individual was allowed on the field his imediate commaners head
should roll. If this idiot was banned from the field and then seeked
on anyway there needs to be a serious review of security and as an
indivitual he needs to be banned from re-enactment for life and his
particulars circulated to other period organisations. Harsh? Well if
we don't police ourselves the Police will!
>
> Cheers
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KILTONE@a...
>
> Subject: [WarOf1812] reenactor shot with live round
>
>
> Shiners,
>
>     Some of you may have already read this, but for  those that
have not,
> this is why we check equipment again and again and again,  safety
first,
> authenticity second. fun third.
>
>
>
> <<Oh crap... this is all we need?!?
> Marsh
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dave:
It is a 1796 pattern British Light Cavalry Sabre (one very similar was
also used by the US forces).
There is another original in the small museum at Fairfield.
It is the same pattern as one that would have been used by the
Provincial Dragoons, The Canadian Light Dragoons (Coleman's Troop)
along the Thames in 1813.
It is in extremely good condition.

As an archaeologist, I would advise complete annotation on the precise
location of its find, down to the last centimetre. Orient all compass
measurements from the north. Also, if it applies, measure the depth of
its burial.

Whatever your friend does DO NOT CLEAN IT - I repeat DO NOT CLEAN
IT!!!!!!  This should be done by a professional museum conservator -
some of the best are at the CWM and Museum of Civilization, Otawa -
Gatineau. Modern abrasives or cleansers would ruin it.

Hope this helps
Ray
41st Regt.
On Tuesday, October 4, 2005, at 04:14 PM, Dave Westhouse wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> I have posted 4 photos of a sword in the photos section. A friend from
> work found the sword in a hollowed out log on his farm in the Simcoe,
> Ontario area. Southwestern Ontario.
>
> It is complete with scabard and appears to me, the untrained eye, to
> be a regular cavalry soldiers sword.
>
> There are no identifiable marks on the blade or handle.
>
> It is rather plain in appearance but in relatively good shape.
>
> The question this gentleman has is how old is it? How would he find
> out? What should he do with it, as in cleaning or restoring?
>
> Thank you, any input would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Dave Westhouse, Corporal
> 1st (Royal Scots) Grenadiers
>
>
>
>
> The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds
> of square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of
> THOUSANDS of square miles...
>
> Unit Contact information for North America:
>    ---------------------------------
> Crown Forces Unit Listing:
> http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
>
> American Forces Unit Listing
> http://usforces1812.tripod.com
>
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And as a Material Culturist and Curator, I would advise donating it to the
local Museum. (with all of the information that Ray suggested) He would
receive either a tax receipt or possibly cash, but it would be
professionally cared for, professionally exhibited, stored according to
Ontario Museum standards, and there forever, and appreciated by all.

and BTW Ray the best conservators at the CWM are from the Canadian
Conservation Institute.

Kevin
89th Reg't
(and also a trained Museum professional!!)


----- Original Message -----
From: "ray hobbs" <ray.hobbs@...>

As an archaeologist, I would advise complete annotation on the precise
location of its find, down to the last centimetre. Orient all compass
measurements from the north. Also, if it applies, measure the depth of
its burial.

Whatever your friend does DO NOT CLEAN IT - I repeat DO NOT CLEAN
IT!!!!!!  This should be done by a professional museum conservator -
some of the best are at the CWM and Museum of Civilization, Otawa -
Gatineau. Modern abrasives or cleansers would ruin it.

Hope this helps
Ray
41st Regt.

Well as the original post is writen by someone who said he was there to actualy
whitness the incident I was assuming it was true. ut true or not I stand by my
opinion stated below. On re-reading it I don't think I made any 'sky is falling'
statements. If so please point them out. Safety is of prime importance and in my
32 years of re-enacting I have seen incidents that came very close to what was
stated.

Cheers

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: hm95thfoot <hm95thfoot@...>
To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:33:16 -0000
Subject: [WarOf1812] Re: reenactor shot with live round


Until somebody can come up with any confirmation that this actually
occurred, and recently, I'm going to have to call BS on this whole
thing. Names? Dates? Place? I tried a google search on them, nothing
comes up on this re injuries at a reenactment.

I've seen some whoppers before on the Internet, and I've learned to
become rather mistrustful about "sky is falling" types of posts and
news, until I see confirmation from multiple sources.

RWF

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, BritcomHMP@a... wrote:
> OK Michael, so let's review.
>
> The guilty party was a minor, so I assume we are talking of
someone who should not have been on the field with a weapon in the
first place.
> The weapons he and his friends were carrying were not period
correct, in fact they were modern.
> The individual had been observed 'showing off' with said weapon
earlier in the day and was then allowed to take the field with it.
>
> So what you are saying here is that there was a total lack of
supervision by his officers and NCOs, this is exactly why we once
had a rule in the NA British forces that any person in direct
command of troops must not, under any circumstances, fire a weapon
with the men. The job of the officers (including NCOs whith direct
command) is command and control, watching the men, moving them,
checking on their safety.
> On a higher level what happened to the safety inspection? if there
wasn't one the high up heads should roll, if there was one and this
individual was allowed on the field his imediate commaners head
should roll. If this idiot was banned from the field and then seeked
on anyway there needs to be a serious review of security and as an
indivitual he needs to be banned from re-enactment for life and his
particulars circulated to other period organisations. Harsh? Well if
we don't police ourselves the Police will!
>
> Cheers
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KILTONE@a...
>
> Subject: [WarOf1812] reenactor shot with live round
>
>
> Shiners,
>
>     Some of you may have already read this, but for  those that
have not,
> this is why we check equipment again and again and again,  safety
first,
> authenticity second. fun third.
>
>
>
> <<Oh crap... this is all we need?!?
> Marsh
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of square
miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS of square
miles...

Unit Contact information for North America:
    ---------------------------------
Crown Forces Unit Listing:
http://1812crownforces.tripod.com

American Forces Unit Listing
http://usforces1812.tripod.com
Yahoo! Groups Links






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I agree with Mr. Hobbs on almost all points here except the 1796
light Cav. part . Although it could very likely be a Brit pattern, I
think it also possible that it could be a US  sabre manufactured by
STAR who were as spotty at marking their swords as some of the Brit
contractors.
The reason I say this, is that the blade doesn't seem wide enough for
a 1796 pattern. It would be a big help to have the measurements and
weight.
Also, the guard has a less "decisive" appearance to the "D" than what
one normally sees in the 1796.
There is one other possibility, and that is a light company officers
sword. Again, size and weight have a great deal to do with
identifying this type.


Craig Williams


On 4-Oct-05, at 6:03 PM, ray hobbs wrote:

> Dave:
> It is a 1796 pattern British Light Cavalry Sabre (one very similar was
> also used by the US forces).
> There is another original in the small museum at Fairfield.
> It is the same pattern as one that would have been used by the
> Provincial Dragoons, The Canadian Light Dragoons (Coleman's Troop)
> along the Thames in 1813.
> It is in extremely good condition.
>
> As an archaeologist, I would advise complete annotation on the precise
> location of its find, down to the last centimetre. Orient all compass
> measurements from the north. Also, if it applies, measure the depth of
> its burial.
>
> Whatever your friend does DO NOT CLEAN IT - I repeat DO NOT CLEAN
> IT!!!!!!  This should be done by a professional museum conservator -
> some of the best are at the CWM and Museum of Civilization, Otawa -
> Gatineau. Modern abrasives or cleansers would ruin it.
>
> Hope this helps
> Ray
> 41st Regt.
> On Tuesday, October 4, 2005, at 04:14 PM, Dave Westhouse wrote:
>
>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I have posted 4 photos of a sword in the photos section. A friend
>> from
>> work found the sword in a hollowed out log on his farm in the Simcoe,
>> Ontario area. Southwestern Ontario.
>>
>> It is complete with scabard and appears to me, the untrained eye, to
>> be a regular cavalry soldiers sword.
>>
>> There are no identifiable marks on the blade or handle.
>>
>> It is rather plain in appearance but in relatively good shape.
>>
>> The question this gentleman has is how old is it? How would he find
>> out? What should he do with it, as in cleaning or restoring?
>>
>> Thank you, any input would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Dave Westhouse, Corporal
>> 1st (Royal Scots) Grenadiers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of
>> hundreds
>> of square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of
>> THOUSANDS of square miles...
>>
>> Unit Contact information for North America:
>>    ---------------------------------
>> Crown Forces Unit Listing:
>> http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
>>
>> American Forces Unit Listing
>> http://usforces1812.tripod.com
>>
>>
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Naval Establishment
Crown Forces North America

General Signal

NE/CFNA Squadron to gain New Flagship

The Naval Establishment, Crown Forces North America, is pleased to forward the
news that the 30-ton replica 19th Century topsail schooner BUCCANEER has been
acquired by a consortium headed by Naval Establishment Post Captain Vernon
Fairhead of Shawville, Quebec. The vessel will commence a major refit in
mid-October with a view to commencing operations on the Great Lakes and Saint
Lawrence River in 2006.

BUCCANEER is a bluff-bowed vessel of heavy scantlings and thoroughgoing
traditional "Pinky" gaff rig design, with channels, shrouds and ratlines, and is
Maine-built, with oceangoing capabilities. All lines and gear are traditional.
Hidden in the vessel is an auxilary engine and full suite of Coast
Guard/Ministry of Transport-approved safety and navigational gear. Captain
Fairhead has indicated he intends to complete her refit and appearance to
RN/Provincial Marine standards, and will fit guns, both truck and swivel, to
complete her armament battery. The vessel will be sailed by core crew, and
rotating volunteer crew, in historical dress and flying appropriate ensigns and
pennants. A supporting Society is being set up to assist Captain Fairhead and
his partners in the administration, operation and maintenance of BUCCANEER.

I have the Honour to be
Gentlemen
Yours with great Regard

Victor Suthren

Captain

Staff Officer (Fleet)
Naval Establishment
Crown Forces North America

G O D  S A V E  T H E  K I N G .

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The Incorporated Militia of Upper Canada would like to thank all those
involved with the organizing of last weekend's Faire At The Forks.
Well done yet again!
We thoroughly enjoyed ourselves and look forward to returning in 2006.

Some pictures from Chatham can be found on our IMUC website at
http://www.imuc.org/photos/chatham05.htm

Paul Kelly
IMUC

ps - finding a sword in a hollow tree - now how cool is that?!!!