If you are Canadian, and you purchase a musket in
Canada, you do not have to register it with the
Canadian Firearms Registry. According to the
Government, it does not meet the criteria for registry
because it is a flintlock. If it was percussion cap,
that would be a different story.

Const. Brian Luscombe
O.P.P. (and fellow reenactor)
--- Rob Taylor <niagara_falls_98@...> wrote:
> Do you have to register a musket if you buy one in
> Canada?
>
> signed,
> Rob Taylor
>
>
> =====
> War of 1812 Website:  war1812.tripod.com
>
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on
> time.
> http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
>


__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

Hi Rob...

I wrote a decent little article on the Norfolk site about buying weapons
that includes the "legalities"...

It's at http://www.uppercanadianheritage.com/norfolk/firearms.htm

No registration needed for an "antique-replica" flintlock... thank
goodness... but given time, they'll probably find some way to tax 'em!

       Y'rs...

           Matthew Didier


At 01:50 PM 25/03/04 -0800, you wrote:
>Do you have to register a musket if you buy one in
>Canada?
>
>signed,
>Rob Taylor


-  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -
Matthew James Didier - Webmaster - Pvt., Rifle Coy.

Norfolk Militia (Heritage Regiment) Re-Enactment Group
http://norfolk.uppercanadianheritage.com/

PLEASE VISIT the Lake Simcoe Heritage Faire and
Militia Muster website:
http://lakesimcoe.uppercanadianheritage.com/

MAIN SERVER: http://www.uppercanadianheritage.com/

Member in good standing of the
Sacred Order of the De-Clawed Llama

warof1812@...
-------------------------------------------------

Hi,
Under Canuck legislation,  flintlock long arms (muskets and rifles) do not
have to be registered. It is possible to actually register a musket--I know
someone who did this. It might be really difficult to get one taken off the
list, and if you do, you will have to go through the whole transfer process
if you ever sell it.
    You do have to store and transport a reproduction musket like any
firearm:  Unloaded and locked up in a case or made
inoperable.  The  Niagara firearms guy agreed with me that if a flint is
removed, a flintlock is stored or transported legally.  Trigger guard locks
are cheap and a good idea for storage, transportation and for
events.  Also, for anyone coming into Canada, you need to tell Customs what
you are bringing in.    ( You can bring in up to 8kg of black powder per
person as well)  The Canadian Firearms Center has a web site with
information for re-enactors. I do not have the url at home, but it should
be easy to find.
    Percussion weapons and pretty much any kind of working reproduction
pistol are treated like modern weapons under this law.
    There has been some indication that the present Federal government is
reviewing the whole registration situation, which has proven to be terribly
expensive.
    I understand that the explosive regulations have just changed, and the
maximum quantity of black powder that can be stored without having a
licensed magazine for the purpose is 10 kg, not 25kg, as was earlier the
case.  This might impact on some unit purchases.  I will try to get some
confirmation on this.
--Dave Webb
--DW  At 01:50 PM 25/03/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>Do you have to register a musket if you buy one in
>Canada?
>
>signed,
>Rob Taylor
>
>
>=====
>War of 1812 Website:  war1812.tripod.com
>
>__________________________________
>Do you Yahoo!?
>Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
>http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
>
>
>
>The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of
>square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS
>of square miles...
>
>Unit Contact information for North America:
>    ---------------------------------
>Crown Forces Unit Listing:
>http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
>
>American Forces Unit Lisiting
>http://usforces1812.tripod.com
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

hello all.

Still in the market for some British/Canadian troops to attend Sack
Harb event on April 3rd.  SO far we have 3 Red Coats an  a few first
nation representatives.  Is there anyone else who can make it??
It is a good cause and the park/town is going to take good care of us.
YHOS
C. Murphy
USS Con
1812 MG

I forgot to mention any US forces are just as welcome.  We have about
8 Marines attending and we would sure like to have representatives of
the US Navy, Army and Militia on hand.  It was a joint force defence
that worked somewhat.  At least the Pike didnt burn!
Who's in??

C. Murphy
USS Con.
1812 MG

I thought everyone might be interested in a play set
in the 1812 era being put on in Ashland, Ohio this
summer.

The Johnny Appleseed Heritage Centre is putting on the
Johnny Appleseed Historial Drama. Set in the early
1800s and leading up to the war of 1812, this
inspiring story is based on true accounts of John
"Appleseed" Chapman's experiences in north central
Ohio. Chapman’s compassionate rapport with area’s
pioneer families and Delaware Indian tribes provides
the underpinning for this unforgettable story. He
finds himself caught in the midst of growing conflict
and tension as the British threaten the security of
the area at the start of the war of 1812.

I've posted a bit of information on
http://www.generalbrock.com and more information is
available at the centre's Web site, located at
http://www.jahci.org.

Looks like fun!

- Todd

=====

--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, David Webb <alderweb@v...> wrote:
>I understand that the explosive regulations have just changed, and
the maximum quantity of black powder that can be stored without
having a licensed magazine for the purpose is 10 kg, not 25kg, as was
earlier the case.  This might impact on some unit purchases.  I will
try to get some confirmation on this.
> --Dave Webb

Well if you buy 25Ib's of blackpowder in bulk (box), to get around
this law just divide it up to all your members. That's what we do on
occasion. Have you seen the price of powder lately? The last time we
bought some it was close to $16.00 a Ib!
In regards to registering a musket. As mentioned you don't have to
but do take note of who you vote for in the next Canadian Federal
election. The Conservative party say's they'll scrap the gun registry
program if elected into power....
I just love watching the Liberal party meltdown with the Adscam
enquiry.

Terry
25 US

Murph,
I am hoping to get out there an support you/the site for the weekend.
If attending, I will be representing His Majesties British Forces.

Rick Peterson



--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "usmarine1814" <usmarine1812@a...>
wrote:
> hello all.
>
> Still in the market for some British/Canadian troops to attend Sack
> Harb event on April 3rd.  SO far we have 3 Red Coats an  a few
first
> nation representatives.  Is there anyone else who can make it??
> It is a good cause and the park/town is going to take good care of
us.
> YHOS
> C. Murphy
> USS Con
> 1812 MG

Rick,
   The burial site in danger holds the remains of UK/Canadian troops.   The
more Red the better.
Colin

I Am Involved in Living History Re-Enactments

Link: http://www.cfc-
ccaf.gc.ca/en/owners_users/fact_sheets/reenact.asp


Storing, Displaying and Transporting Antique Firearms

Link: http://www.cfc-
ccaf.gc.ca/en/owners_users/guide/default.asp#crossing7

Non-Restricted Firearms
All firearms, except muzzle-loading firearms, must be transported
unloaded. Muzzle-loading firearms can be transported loaded between
hunting sites, if the firing cap or flint is removed.

Individuals may leave non-restricted firearms unattended in their
vehicles if the firearms are unloaded and safely locked in the trunk
or a similar compartment of the vehicle. If the vehicle does not
have a trunk or compartment, the vehicle must be locked and the
firearms left inside, unloaded and out of sight.

In remote wilderness areas where it is legal to discharge a firearm,
non-restricted firearms can be left in unattended vehicles that do
not have a trunk or similar compartment, if the firearms are:

unloaded; and
out of sight.
If:

your vehicle does not have a trunk or similar compartment, and
your firearms cannot be locked inside,
the firearms must also be unable to be fired by using a secure
locking device, unless they are required for predator control.


Storing, Displaying and Transporting Antique Firearms

Antique firearms are exempt from licensing and registration
requirements. However, under the Firearms Act antique firearms must
be stored, displayed and transported unloaded.

Antique firearms may be left unattended in a vehicle's locked trunk
or similar compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk or
compartment, lock the vehicle and leave the firearms inside and out
of sight.


The Definition of an Antique

Link: http://www.cfc-
ccaf.gc.ca/en/owners_users/fact_sheets/antique.asp

The Criminal Code defines antique firearms as:

firearms manufactured before 1898 that were not designed or re-
designed to discharge rim-fire or centre-fire ammunition, or
firearms prescribed as antique firearms in the Criminal Code
regulations. These are:

Black Powder Reproductions:

of flintlock, wheel-lock or matchlock firearms, other than handguns,
manufactured after 1897; (All other reproductions must be registered
and owners must have a firearm licence to possess them. For example,
reproductions of percussion cap muzzle-loading firearms like
American Civil War Enfield and Springfield rifles will be considered
firearms and not antiques.)

I was intrigued by one section of the post from "Fawkes" on use and
storage of flintlocks:

"If: your vehicle does not have a trunk or similar compartment, and
your firearms cannot be locked inside,
the firearms must also be unable to be fired by using a secure
locking device, unless they are required for predator control."

So, although its not actually a "firearm" in the meaning of the act,
I can keep my musket loaded, with ball, loose on the seat of my buggy
if I need it for 'predator control'?  Cool!

[  Do ya suppose door-to-door hawkers count as predators?  :)  ]

Dear List
On a serious note: if anyone out there is looking for a source of
lead for either musket balls or flint leads (or whatever) a great
source for me has been my dentist!

The backing for dental x-ray plates are paper thin sheets of pure
lead about 1.5" square.  It melts easily, isn't adulterated with
other stuff like tire weights or fishing sinkers and is probably
free.  My dentist sells his old silver and gold amalgam but says "the
man" doesn't want the lead, so I got 4 kilos (10 lbs) for the asking
and in exchange for a couple cast balls for his kids.

Y MH&OS
Peter Monahan

Just  a reminder to all re-enactors about the second annual Wasaga under
Siege event being held at Nancy Island Historic Site in Wasaga Beach,
Ontario from July 23rd to the 25th/04.  To date we have over 250 re-enactors
registered with an expected turnout of around 600.  For more information on
this great event and to register online check out our website at
www.wasagaundersiege1812.com

Look forward to seeing everyone again for a great event!!

Take Care!!

Dave Brunelle

I forgot to mention last post: if you use "x-ray lead" you gget glow-
in-the-dark musket balls at no extra cost!

PM

For any and all who can not attend the important, allbeit humble,
event April 3rd at Sacketts Harbor, but would still like to do
something to show support I would like to give this address out.
Sackets Harbor Local Development Corporation (LDC)
% John Constance
107 Hounsfield St.
Sackets Harbor New York
13685

If you could please write the LDC to voice your support of the town
or state protecting from development and hopefully acquire the land
to incorporate it into the existing Park.  The parcel of land is 110
acres that extends from the British landing point at Horse Island to
the park property.  In that parcel, according to period sketches
copied into Lossings book on 1812, lies the bodies of the UK dead
that could not be evacuated.  I believe saving this land is a most
important way of doing what we intend to do every time we don our
uniforms, remember perserve and share the memories of the men who we
honor through our hobby.  Imagine if people had the same chance 100
plus years ago to save Lundy's Lane.  We curse those buildings
everytime we drive by.  Lets not let it happen again.
Thank You
Colin Murphy
USS Con
1812 MG

.
> Sackets Harbor Local Development Corporation (LDC)
> % Jon Constance
> 107 Hounsfield St.
> Sackets Harbor New York
> 13685
>
>

Just Announcing a nice new online toy...

"Ye Olde Woolen Blanket" - Free Online Classified Ads for Folks in the
Re-Enactment Community and Living Historians!

http://www.uppercanadianheritage.com/blanket/
...or...
http://blanket.uppercanadianheritage.com/

Basically, I've had a few folks ask about selling kit or offering items for
sale so I built this for everyone...  Feel free to use this as you will!

Yes, Sutlers, Merchants, Artisans... anyone CAN post ads here... provided,
of course, they don't step over our rules (see the page for information...)

Hope this little thing is helpful and useful to those in the community!

    Y'rs...

       Matthew Didier
-  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -
Matthew James Didier - Webmaster - Pvt., Rifle Coy.

Norfolk Militia (Heritage Regiment) Re-Enactment Group
http://norfolk.uppercanadianheritage.com/

PLEASE VISIT the Lake Simcoe Heritage Faire and
Militia Muster website:
http://lakesimcoe.uppercanadianheritage.com/

MAIN SERVER: http://www.uppercanadianheritage.com/

Member in good standing of the
Sacred Order of the De-Clawed Llama

warof1812@...
-------------------------------------------------

Greetings all.  While most is not directly related to 1812 Willowbank
has just posted a fine spring lecture series.

Willowbank Lecture Series - Spring 2004
                        All Lectures held at the Queenston Community
Library
                                                        Free Parking
                               32 Queenston St. at the corner of Dumfries

                                                Village of Queenston

        Saturday - Apr  03
        Arlene Mills
        Topic - All About Herbs including Heritage Herbs
        Heritage Herbs will be for sale.
        Time 10 -12
        Cost $10

        Saturday - Apr 10
        David Owen
        Topic - The Fenian Invasion of Niagara Region, 1866
        The Irish Brotherhood invasions of the Niagara Frontier in an
attempt to settle Old
        World conflicts in Upper Canada.
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

        Saturday -  Apr 17
        Robert Johnson
        Topic -Boat Building in Early Niagara - see some of the original
boat designs.
        Antiquarian Books -How to recognize a treasure with a look at
rare editions
        belonging to William Merritt and the Duke of Ormond, Head of the
Butler family.
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

        Saturday - Apr 24
        Dr. Richard Merritt
        Topic - Cupping, Quackery and Compassion: Medicine in Upper
Canada.
        A fascinating look into matters of health, disease and its
treatment in the
        early 1800’s.
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

        Saturday  - May 01
        Wendy Shearer
        Topic - The Victorian Kitchen Garden
        Edibles and Ornamentals
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

        Saturday  - May 08
        Jim Alexander
        Topic - Period Door Restoration
        Hands-On Workshop - The Anatomy, Repair & Restoration of Period
Doors.
        Pack a Lunch
        Time 10 - 2
        Cost $45

        Saturday  - May 15
        Bev Garner
        Topic - Artifact Workshop – Butler Artifacts
        Identifying, Sorting, Cataloguing Artifacts.
        A Hands-On Experience.
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

        Saturday  - May 22
        John Lingaitis
        Topic -Build a Bird House for Bluebirds or House Swallows.
        Enjoy this wonderful craft – build and discover where to locate
your bird houses to
        attract bluebirds and swallows.
        All materials supplied.
        Bring your own hammer and hand saw.
        Pack a lunch - ** Reservations required **
        Time 10 - 3
        Cost $45

        Saturday  - May 29
        Dr. David Murray
        Topic - Sheriff Alexander Hamilton of Willowbank: Early Justice
in Niagara
        District.
        A tale of treason and treachery and the death of a Sheriff.
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

        Saturday - Jun 05
        Denis McQuestion
        Topic - Healthy and Happy Trees
        How to evaluate tree conditions and determine appropriate
treatment options.
        Talk followed by a Walk
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

        Saturday  - Jun 12
        Ron Dale
        Topic - The Conquest of Canada: The French & Indian War.
        A look back to 1754-1763 and the capture of Fort Niagara,
Louisburg and
        Quebec.
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

Reservations for Lectures not required but recommended Please call 905
262 1239 to reserve your spot or email to: willowbankschool@...


        Karin Jahnke-Haslam
        Managing Director
        Willowbank School of Restoration Arts
        14487 Niagara Parkway
        PO Box 212, Queenston
        Ontario, L0S 1L0
        905.262.1239

Re: http://www.uppercanadianheritage.com/blanket/

Hello Folks...

I should add an FAQ to the "Olde Woolen Blanket", but that requires
effort... Soon it will be there.

Anyway, to answer the questions asked so far (and thanks to those who
inquired)...

- - - - - - - - - - -

If you register and place an ad, the main contact for that ad will be
you... It will not "go through" anyone else.  There is a section for
"Contact Information" on each ad and, if you register, people can use a
form built on to each ad to respond to you privately as well.  (See below
for privacy issues...)

Ads are free for everyone.

Sutlers and merchants are more than welcome to post ads.

There are sections for... "Modern Items", "Car Pooling", "Lost and Found",
"Help Wanted"... as well as items for sale...  Have a look around!  You
don't need to register to browse!

If you register, I (and the folks who do help me with
UpperCanadianHeritage.Com) will NOT give out your information and will not
spam you (I hate spam!!!!!!!!!) or sell your information to ANYONE.  But,
be warned, there are these nasty "spam-bots" known as "spiders" that will
fly onto websites and what-have-you and leech out e-mail addies.  I am
working towards making the site "spider-unfriendly" but that's still in the
offing.  You MAY want to "register" with your proper e-mail addy but use a
public one in the "Contact Information" field.  The "Registration" e-mail
addy is pretty safe from spam from us or the infamous spammers, but the
"Contact Information" on the ad forms is visible to the public... and ergo:
Spam-Bots.  (Does anyone REALLY buy Viagara or Vicodin online??? And who
are these Canadian doctors who'll write a prescription online without
issue?  My doc won't say my name unless I'm in his office with my OHIP card
in his hands!)

- - - - - - - - - - -

There you have it!  Thanks for your questions and input and I really hope
that this new site is useful and helpful to everyone in the re-enactment
and living history communities!

          Matthew Didier

-  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -  =  -
Matthew James Didier - Webmaster - Pvt., Rifle Coy.

Norfolk Militia (Heritage Regiment) Re-Enactment Group
http://norfolk.uppercanadianheritage.com/

PLEASE VISIT the Lake Simcoe Heritage Faire and
Militia Muster website:
http://lakesimcoe.uppercanadianheritage.com/

MAIN SERVER: http://www.uppercanadianheritage.com/

Member in good standing of the
Sacred Order of the De-Clawed Llama

warof1812@...
-------------------------------------------------

Hello all,
    For the Sharpe fans out there.  --Dave Webb

RIFLES AND REDCOATS: BERNARD CORNWELL

Wednesday, May 05, 2004

INNIS TOWN HALL (INSIDE INNIS COLLEGE), 2 SUSSEX AVE (SUSSEX AND ST.
GEORGE) - 7:30PM

FREE

            The Reading Series is thrilled to welcome back one of the most
charming and entertaining writers with whom we've ever had the pleasure of
working: BERNARD CORNWELL - author of the bestselling and highly acclaimed
Richard Sharpe series of adventure novels; the Grail Quest series; the
Nathaniel Starbuck Chronicles; the Warlord Trilogy; and the novels
"Redcoat", "Stonehenge 2000 B.C.", and "Gallows Thief" - brings us his
latest Richard Sharpe novel SHARPE'S CHARGE.

I assume this Canada but it could be North of the Boarder judging by the
addresses! :-)



Enjoy.



P**



-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin & Allison Windsor [mailto:kevin.windsor@...]
Sent: 30 March 2004 02:01
To: War of 1812 list; Crown Forces Commanders
Subject: [WarOf1812] Willowbank Lecture Series



Greetings all.  While most is not directly related to 1812 Willowbank
has just posted a fine spring lecture series.

Willowbank Lecture Series - Spring 2004
                        All Lectures held at the Queenston Community
Library
                                                        Free Parking
                               32 Queenston St. at the corner of Dumfries

                                                Village of Queenston

        Saturday - Apr  03
        Arlene Mills
        Topic - All About Herbs including Heritage Herbs
        Heritage Herbs will be for sale.
        Time 10 -12
        Cost $10

        Saturday - Apr 10
        David Owen
        Topic - The Fenian Invasion of Niagara Region, 1866
        The Irish Brotherhood invasions of the Niagara Frontier in an
attempt to settle Old
        World conflicts in Upper Canada.
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

        Saturday -  Apr 17
        Robert Johnson
        Topic -Boat Building in Early Niagara - see some of the original
boat designs.
        Antiquarian Books -How to recognize a treasure with a look at
rare editions
        belonging to William Merritt and the Duke of Ormond, Head of the
Butler family.
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

        Saturday - Apr 24
        Dr. Richard Merritt
        Topic - Cupping, Quackery and Compassion: Medicine in Upper
Canada.
        A fascinating look into matters of health, disease and its
treatment in the
        early 1800's.
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

        Saturday  - May 01
        Wendy Shearer
        Topic - The Victorian Kitchen Garden
        Edibles and Ornamentals
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

        Saturday  - May 08
        Jim Alexander
        Topic - Period Door Restoration
        Hands-On Workshop - The Anatomy, Repair & Restoration of Period
Doors.
        Pack a Lunch
        Time 10 - 2
        Cost $45

        Saturday  - May 15
        Bev Garner
        Topic - Artifact Workshop - Butler Artifacts
        Identifying, Sorting, Cataloguing Artifacts.
        A Hands-On Experience.
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

        Saturday  - May 22
        John Lingaitis
        Topic -Build a Bird House for Bluebirds or House Swallows.
        Enjoy this wonderful craft - build and discover where to locate
your bird houses to
        attract bluebirds and swallows.
        All materials supplied.
        Bring your own hammer and hand saw.
        Pack a lunch - ** Reservations required **
        Time 10 - 3
        Cost $45

        Saturday  - May 29
        Dr. David Murray
        Topic - Sheriff Alexander Hamilton of Willowbank: Early Justice
in Niagara
        District.
        A tale of treason and treachery and the death of a Sheriff.
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

        Saturday - Jun 05
        Denis McQuestion
        Topic - Healthy and Happy Trees
        How to evaluate tree conditions and determine appropriate
treatment options.
        Talk followed by a Walk
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

        Saturday  - Jun 12
        Ron Dale
        Topic - The Conquest of Canada: The French & Indian War.
        A look back to 1754-1763 and the capture of Fort Niagara,
Louisburg and
        Quebec.
        Time 10-12
        Cost $10

Reservations for Lectures not required but recommended Please call 905
262 1239 to reserve your spot or email to: willowbankschool@...


        Karin Jahnke-Haslam
        Managing Director
        Willowbank School of Restoration Arts
        14487 Niagara Parkway
        PO Box 212, Queenston
        Ontario, L0S 1L0
        905.262.1239





The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of
square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS of
square miles...

Unit Contact information for North America:
    ---------------------------------
Crown Forces Unit Listing:
http://1812crownforces.tripod.com

American Forces Unit Lisiting
http://usforces1812.tripod.com




   _____

Yahoo! Groups Links

*         To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WarOf1812/


*         To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
WarOf1812-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:WarOf1812-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>


*         Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>  Service.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Ahoy List

This should be of interest to the jaktars of the group.

ADMIRAL Horatio Nelson's favourite ship, on which he is said to have
seduced Lady Hamilton and lost an eye in battle, has been found off
the coast of Uruguay.

International treasure-divers said yesterday that they had found HMS
Agamemnon, a 64-gun vessel which was the pride of Britain's naval
fleet when it went down in 1809.

The article can be found at
http://www.heritage.scotsman.com/cfm/heritagenews/headlines_specific.
cfm?articleid=352402004

Try this link

http://www.heritage.scotsman.com/cfm/heritagenews/headlines.cfm

faire winds

great read.  If you continue there is a great story about two men in a trench
and the battle of Bannockburn.



jaktar2003 wrote:

> Try this link
>
> http://www.heritage.scotsman.com/cfm/heritagenews/headlines.cfm
>
> faire winds

From: "Kevin & Allison Windsor" <kevin.windsor@...>

" ... there is a great story about two men in a trench and the battle of
Bannockburn..."
...............

                For those subscribers in parts of the world that
this program is not available visit:

http://www.historytelevision.ca/monthlyFeatures/2menTrench/


Yrs

L2

It is obvious, that beside the claimed intent of Free Trade and
Sailors Rights that the US invasion of Canada was an effort to expel
the British presence from North America.  Perhaps, had the US
military been ably led and the government not so divided it may have
just happened because of the weak state of defences in Canada in
1812.  But I was wondering a what if.  It is often argued that the
British had no intent but to defend Canada.  That hey did not wish to
grab any land from the US.  Was this claim/strategy out of neccesity
because they did not have the means to do so?  Here is the what if.
If they had the means, ie men and resources, ad just trounce the US
in 1812 or 1813 to the point of a complete military victory is it
wrong to supose that instead of just using conquered land
as "bargaining chips" that they may have decided to hold on to some
parts such as the northern half of Maine (which had always been an
impediment to the communications between the Maritimes and Quebec and
Montreal)or the upper peninsula of Michigan or the lower for that
matter.  Maybe New Orleans to control trade.  Demand control of the
Oregon territory.  I just cant see them giving up earned land without
reason.  What do other people think?  Has anyone ever ran into
comments about keeping conquered land in their research.

take care all
YHOS
Colin Murphy
USS Con.
1812 MG

For a really good examination of British intentions in regard to the
Michigan Terr, & the old Northwest check out
  A Wampum Denied by Sandy Antal.  Aside from taking a very good look at
British plans for an Indian "Buffer State" in the Old Northwest it is also an
excellent examination of the campaign in the NW from the British/Canadian
perspective.

      Ed B.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

List:
For those who might not want to venture into Toronto on May 5th - Bernard
Cornwell will be visiting
Hamilton on Tuesday, May 4th.
Location - Coach House Restaurant, Dundurn Castle, York Blvd.
Time; 7.30 pm
Tickets: $7.00 (not yet available)
Promotion of "Sharpe's Escape" (not "Charge" as recently posted)

I, and a host of others in the hobby, was present at the last such gathering. It
was an absolute delight.
Ray Hobbs
CO 41st Regt.
Head of the Lake

Greetings List,
I was at a museum studies course in Stratford over the past three
days and we got a bonus in way of a tour of their archives and
costume storage facility. Anyway we were told that one way that they
get rid of body odour on costumes is to spray the fabric with vodka.
Potato based vodka apparently works best.
They just use a vapouriser type sprayer and spray the smelly garment
with vodka. So if you have a garment that you can't wash or dry clean
often perhaps the Stratford vodka spray system may be just the thing.
I know it seems a waste of alcohol but it is only vodka after all not
12 year old single malt Scotch.
Best regards,
J. Bruce Whittaker
Norfolk Militia

Hi all this is the last call for any one who wishes to partake in the
rememberace/conservation/1812 muster weekend in Sackets Harbor New
York.  If you allof a sudden find that your weekend is open come on
over and pay a visit a perform a tremedous service to the men of
1812
Below is the official press release and the description of the event
for reenactors.  The latter first
Greetings distant but esteemed friends!

Colin and Connie Barone (Park Supervisor) and I have put together
this very
last minute but important ceremony/event has been scheduled for this
coming
weekend to educate people about and bring public awareness to the
Crown
Forces and their Native American Allies side of the Sackets Harbor
Battlefield--a relatively undeveloped area which has recently come to
attention as a possible site for commercial development. There will be
official representatives from both the US and CAN government and
military,
veteran's organizations, and Native Peoples present, as well as a
number of
US, Canadian and British living history groups--even lapels pins and
awards
from the mayor!

it was supposed to be a small local ceremony/event, but it is
shaping up to be a bit bigger, and may be a lot of fun --we have
people
coming from as far as Indiana, and we'd rather you hear about it
first from
us, even at this late date.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET THERE with sleeping stuff (doesn't have to
be
period this time!)--- everything else, from on-site housing with
bathrooms
and showers to powder, groceries, period taverns in town, and catered
meals
is provided.

*****THE ONLY STIPULATION is that as far as our in-ranks appearance
goes,
this is an " 'authentics' only" event: no buckskinner/rondevous-
types, no
non-Natives portraying Natives, and no beards or moustaches
whatsoever for
military impressions (sideburns are encouraged).*****

Again, my sincere apologies for this last minute invitation--this was
originally organized as a small event, but as interest has grown--and
even
though it's probably too late for you to come (although we hope you
do)--we
feel we should include you and your people as a courtesy.

IMPORTANT: Contact Connie Barone Barone <
Constance.Barone@...
>, or me (781-646-1169) or Colin < USMarine1812@... > with any
questions
and/or to confirm the numbers of your people attending.

PLEASE FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO MEMBERS OF YOUR ORGANIZATION AND TO ANY
1812-1816 LIVING HISTORY GROUPS THAT YOU THINK MAY BE QUALIFIED AND
INTERESTED IN ATTENDING--CIVILIAN IMPRESSIONS TOO

PRESS RELEASE

War of 1812 Living History Spring Muster

The Sackets Harbor Battlefield State Historic Site is pleased to
present the USS Constitution 1812 Marine Guard: Spring Muster.  This
living history weekend, Saturday and Sunday, April 3-4, 2004 is free
and open to the public. Join the excitement when the Boston-based
1812 Marine Guard and other War of 1812 living history groups set up
camp at the Sackets Harbor Battlefield State Historic Site. Meet with
other visiting guests, and members of the site's newly formed support
group the Battlefield Alliance.

Saturday, Apr. 3, camp opens with Reveille, and at 8am a 1812-era
flag ceremony "Morning Colors and Inspection Parade" at the site's
Navy Yard. After breakfast, at 10am the 1812 Marine Guard presents
War of 1812 military drills outdoors, or in case of inclement
weather, in the barn.

After lunch, at 1pm the USS Constitution 1812 Marine Guard and
guests, assemble at the beach opposite Horse Island for a wreath
laying commemorating the American, British, Canadian, and Native
American forces who lost their lives at the May 29, 1813 second
Battle of Sackets Harbor. Marching along the shoreline road, re-
enactors and guests assemble for additional remarks at the battle's
mid-point line. A ceremony concludes the march at the historic site's
Navy Yard, the site of Ft. Tompkins during the War of 1812.
Throughout the afternoon, living history demonstrations by the 1812
Marine Guard, will take place outdoors or in the barn.

Also on Saturday enjoy a visit to the site's 19th century
Commandant's and Lieutenant's Houses between 10am and 4pm. Stop first
at the Lieutenant's House to see the War of 1812 gallery and gift
shop. Tour the furnished Commandant's House, featuring
a "Commandant's Christmas 1860." An admission fee is charged for
tours with special discounts for seniors, student, and military.

Sunday, Apr. 4 the 1812 Marine Guard camp opens with Reveille,
followed by an 8am inspection parade and raising of the colors along
with a concluding salute at the site's Navy Yard flagpole. Don't miss
the color, music, and musketry of this "first-time-ever" Spring
Muster at Sackets Harbor.