From: <easeufe@...>


> > Provincial Marines
> >
> Huh!
>
> Shouldn't it have been Provincial Marine (singular)?
>
______________

  Yes Edward, and that was my point, I received a list and read it.

  But, in fact there were three Provincial Marine Gun Crews
so that could be construed as "Marines"  ............  :^)

Hey folks, give Larry a break!  He told you that he reads what he is
given.  Is that such a hard concept to grasp.  His is not the easiest
job, having to describe what is happening, especially when thing get off
of the planned action.

Regards,

Bob Dorian
USA

Greetings all,

I've taken the liberty to post a few pictures from last week's event
at Longwoods.  They can be found in the "Photos" section listed to
the left of the message section.  Just click on the folder and they
should appear.

Paul Kelly
Colour Ensign

What Colour are you Ensign Kelly?
Biggest 17 year old boy I have ever seen!  Must have done it once, twice, three
times an ensign!  Couldn't help myself.  Good to see the king of lurkdom has
finally
posted!

lt_kelly1812 wrote:

>
> Paul Kelly
> Colour Ensign

--- In WarOf1812@y..., "Larry Lozon" <lalozon@n...> wrote:
> From: "gord_1812" <gord1812@n...>
>
> Wouldn't the anouncer be on duty and have to
>  wear issue head dress?
> ..................
>
> Gord,
>                         Documentation tells us that the 1st
Regiment Kent
> Militia
> were allotted green wool, but receipt of uniforms cannot be
documented.
> The 41st transferred Officers and NCOs to the Kents, and as well
during
> the capture of Detroit some were issued cast off 41st's coats. Thus
the
> Kents went into battle with a mish-mash of civilian and military
kit. My kit
> was a civilian hat (documented from 1779-1816) Upper Canada Militia
> Sergeant's coat, 41st Regt. sash, grey wool trousers, grey wool
gaiters,
> buckled shoes-straight last. Which agrees with documentation on the
Kents.


Thanks for the update.

>
> Now good, Sir, shall we inspect your kit to whether it meats the
Warrant?
>


Sure anytime...You bring the beer.

Gord

Oh by the way with the cold we had on Fri.pm/Sat. am . If any
> treehugger tries to tell you about Global warming, Butt
Stroke 'em ! My
> humble opinion only :^)
> Regards John

Hey John I thought it was tropical on your side of the river. :P

Gord

A Call To Liberty
Period 1760-1814
June 7-9, 2002
West Liberty, Ohio

  Hosted by:
84th Regt of Foot Royal Highland Emigrants (NWTA)
Columbus, Ohio

The call has gone out to period:
Craftsmen, Artisans, Voyageurs, Woodland Indians, Traders, Sutlers,
Entertainers, Fife & Drum Corps, & Military Re-enactors from the
French & Indian War, Revolutionary War & War of 1812:

To gather along the headwaters of the Mad River, along the Buckskin
Trail, in Mac-o-chee Valley, one time home to the fierce Shawnee,
Delaware, Mingo, Miami, Seneca, Cherokee, & Wyandotte. On the
location of a Shawnee Village that was the site of a battle in Lords
Dunmores War & a training area for General Hull as he gathered his
forces for the March along Hulls Trace to Ft. Detroit in the War of
1812.

Home to Moluntha, the Grenadier Squaw, Tarhe, Blackhoof, Black Fish,
Blue Jacket, Tecumseh & The Prophet;  Stomping grounds of the Zanes,
Col. Alexander McKee, Simon Girty, Simon Kenton, Daniel Boone,
Benjamin Logan, & General Hull

You are cordially invited to join the following units for our
festivities:
Common Stock, Indianapolis, Indiana Native American Ancestral
Association, Piqua, Ohio 1st Co. 2nd Bat. 84th Regiment of
Foot Royal Highland Emigrants, Columbus, Ohio
Rabbit Hash String Band, Cincinnati, Ohio Ohio Wagon Train
Association 84th Regt Royal Highland Emigrants Mounted,
Johnstown, Ohio
Russ Childers Early American Folk Music, Batavia, Ohio Woodland
Heritage Association, Springfield, Ohio Kent Re-enactment Society,
Chatham, Ontario
Diane Rankin, Author & Pioneer Woman Story Teller, DeGraff, Ohio
	 John Maxwell Cherokee Story Teller, South Charleston, Ohio
	 Green Tigers British Artillery, Alexandria, Indiana
Bob Ford, Musician & Teller, Cedarville, Ohio Rachel Chadwick
Wyandot Story Teller, Centerville, Ohio  78th Fraiser
Highlander Bag Pipe & Drum Corps with Scottish & Irish Dancers & Regt
Guard, Valapariaso, Indiana
Royal Scottish Country Dancers, Cincinnati, Ohio Shawnee
Indians, Ft. Wayne, Indiana The Plaid Piper, Green Bank, West
Virginia
Mary Gardner Story Teller Tecumseh, Mansfield, Ohio Damon
Defibaugh, Bag Piper
General George Washington, Mansfield, Ohio Shawnee Chief
Blackfish, Ft. Wayne, Indiana 84th Regt. of Foot Highland
Emigrants, Michigan Company
Charcloth Celtic & American Folk Music, Hamilton, Ohio Snow Owl
Shawnee Story Teller & Woodland Flutest from Disneys Pocahantas,
Urbana, Ohio 42nd Regiment of Foot Gordons Company
Dr. Quackenbush Magic, Music & Medicine Wagon Show, Indiana  2nd
Coy Georgia Artillery, Sudbury, Georgia
John Durant the Old World Troubadour, Fredricksburg, Maryland
	 Martin's Station Light Artillery from Huber Heights, Ohio
	 The Voyageurs Fife & Drum Corps, West Lafayette, Indiana
Ohio Chataquas General Simon Kenton, Mansfield, Ohio 27th U.S.
Infantry from Chatham, Ontario  Brigade Napoleon
Toni Cox, Story Teller, West Mansfield, Ohio Plymouth, Michigan
Fife & Drum Corps 21st Reg't. Of-the-Line French, Chicago,
Illinois
Rogues Concert, Cincinnati, Ohio Great Lakes Ancient Field
Musick Fife & Drum Corps, Michigan 7th Hussar's French
Faire Wynde, Dublin, Ohio Andrew Lewis Volunteers Fife & Drum
Corps, Blacksburg, Virginia 5th Hussar's French
Brad Kepler the Great Lakes Minstrel, Fremont, Ohio  Midnight
Riders Fife & Drum Corps, Detroit, Michigan De La Balmes Military
Forces from Columbia City, Indiana
Chatham Ontario Womans Temperance Society 1st American Regiment
Fife & drum Corps, Columbus, Ohio LeMieux L'Ecole des Armes,
Yellow Springs, Ohio
The Rat Catcher, Centerville, Ohio Culpepper Minute Battalion,
Indiana Ghost Forge Sutlery, Crawfordsville, Indiana
Rev. Llam McIntosh Presbyterian Circuit Rider, Urbana, Ohio
	 George Rogers Clark Illinois Reg't. McCarty's Co'y., Illinois
	 White Fox Traders, Toledo, Ohio
Simon Girty, Mansfield, Ohio George Rogers Clark Illinois Reg't.
McCarty's Co'y., Ohio Wild Goose Traders, Illinois
Karri Danner, Hammer Dulcimer, Toledo, Ohio Kentucky Light
Artillery, Cincinnati, Ohio Flying Canoe Traders, Trois Rivieres,
Quebec
Anne Starbuck, Ocarina, West Liberty, Ohio Northwest Territory
Alliance Bushnell Bottle Company, Toledo, Ohio
Kelly Brannan, Violinist, Bow Psaltery & Glass Armonica, Troy, Ohio
	 5th Bgd 1st Div Ohio Militia Munger's Rangers from
Centerville, Ohio Copper Creek Coppersmiths, Watertown,
Wisconsin
The Dulcimer Society, Bellefontaine, Ohio 1st U.S. Light
Artillery Ft. Wayne, Indiana Grizz Blacksmithy & Baskets,
Grayling, Michigan
The Liberty Dance Troupe (Faire at New Boston Dancers), Yellow
Springs, Ohio 1st American Continental Artillery, Galion, Ohio
	 Faire Tyme Toys, Chatham, Ontario
Shakespeare, Xenia, Ohio Stitch In Tyme, Navarre, Ohio
	 Smoking Iron Taylor Shop
Otto The Sword Swallower, Indianapolis, Indiana 3 Feathers Pewter
Smith, Millersburg, Ohio Big Horn Trading Company, Honey
Brook, Pennsylvania
Smoke & Fire Co. Sutlery, Grand Rapids, Ohio Briar Patch Sutlery,
Alexandria, Indiana And over 100 other crafters, demonstrators &
Units!!
For more information or to pre-register your unit please visit our
web site at: http://www.westliberty.com/calltoliberty
Deadline to register is March 1, 2002
Please RSVP
Before May 30, 2002

Thank you and God Bless,
Craig L. Haidet
West Liberty, Ohio Historical Society
craiglee@... (937) 465-9540
http://www.westliberty.com/calltoliberty

A Call To Liberty
Period 1760-1814
June 7-9, 2002
West Liberty, Ohio

  Hosted by:
84th Regt of Foot Royal Highland Emigrants (NWTA)
Columbus, Ohio

The call has gone out to period:
Craftsmen, Artisans, Voyageurs, Woodland Indians, Traders, Sutlers,
Entertainers, Fife & Drum Corps, & Military Re-enactors from the
French & Indian War, Revolutionary War & War of 1812:

To gather along the headwaters of the Mad River, along the Buckskin
Trail, in Mac-o-chee Valley, one time home to the fierce Shawnee,
Delaware, Mingo, Miami, Seneca, Cherokee, & Wyandotte. On the
location of a Shawnee Village that was the site of a battle in Lords
Dunmores War & a training area for General Hull as he gathered his
forces for the March along Hulls Trace to Ft. Detroit in the War of
1812.

Home to Moluntha, the Grenadier Squaw, Tarhe, Blackhoof, Black Fish,
Blue Jacket, Tecumseh & The Prophet;  Stomping grounds of the Zanes,
Col. Alexander McKee, Simon Girty, Simon Kenton, Daniel Boone,
Benjamin Logan, & General Hull

You are cordially invited to join the following units for our
festivities:
Common Stock, Indianapolis, Indiana Native American Ancestral
Association, Piqua, Ohio 1st Co. 2nd Bat. 84th Regiment of
Foot Royal Highland Emigrants, Columbus, Ohio
Rabbit Hash String Band, Cincinnati, Ohio Ohio Wagon Train
Association 84th Regt Royal Highland Emigrants Mounted,
Johnstown, Ohio
Russ Childers Early American Folk Music, Batavia, Ohio Woodland
Heritage Association, Springfield, Ohio Kent Re-enactment Society,
Chatham, Ontario
Diane Rankin, Author & Pioneer Woman Story Teller, DeGraff, Ohio
	 John Maxwell Cherokee Story Teller, South Charleston, Ohio
	 Green Tigers British Artillery, Alexandria, Indiana
Bob Ford, Musician & Teller, Cedarville, Ohio Rachel Chadwick
Wyandot Story Teller, Centerville, Ohio  78th Fraiser
Highlander Bag Pipe & Drum Corps with Scottish & Irish Dancers & Regt
Guard, Valapariaso, Indiana
Royal Scottish Country Dancers, Cincinnati, Ohio Shawnee
Indians, Ft. Wayne, Indiana The Plaid Piper, Green Bank, West
Virginia
Mary Gardner Story Teller Tecumseh, Mansfield, Ohio Damon
Defibaugh, Bag Piper
General George Washington, Mansfield, Ohio Shawnee Chief
Blackfish, Ft. Wayne, Indiana 84th Regt. of Foot Highland
Emigrants, Michigan Company
Charcloth Celtic & American Folk Music, Hamilton, Ohio Snow Owl
Shawnee Story Teller & Woodland Flutest from Disneys Pocahantas,
Urbana, Ohio 42nd Regiment of Foot Gordons Company
Dr. Quackenbush Magic, Music & Medicine Wagon Show, Indiana  2nd
Coy Georgia Artillery, Sudbury, Georgia
John Durant the Old World Troubadour, Fredricksburg, Maryland
	 Martin's Station Light Artillery from Huber Heights, Ohio
	 The Voyageurs Fife & Drum Corps, West Lafayette, Indiana
Ohio Chataquas General Simon Kenton, Mansfield, Ohio 27th U.S.
Infantry from Chatham, Ontario  Brigade Napoleon
Toni Cox, Story Teller, West Mansfield, Ohio Plymouth, Michigan
Fife & Drum Corps 21st Reg't. Of-the-Line French, Chicago,
Illinois
Rogues Concert, Cincinnati, Ohio Great Lakes Ancient Field
Musick Fife & Drum Corps, Michigan 7th Hussar's French
Faire Wynde, Dublin, Ohio Andrew Lewis Volunteers Fife & Drum
Corps, Blacksburg, Virginia 5th Hussar's French
Brad Kepler the Great Lakes Minstrel, Fremont, Ohio  Midnight
Riders Fife & Drum Corps, Detroit, Michigan De La Balmes Military
Forces from Columbia City, Indiana
Chatham Ontario Womans Temperance Society 1st American Regiment
Fife & drum Corps, Columbus, Ohio LeMieux L'Ecole des Armes,
Yellow Springs, Ohio
The Rat Catcher, Centerville, Ohio Culpepper Minute Battalion,
Indiana Ghost Forge Sutlery, Crawfordsville, Indiana
Rev. Llam McIntosh Presbyterian Circuit Rider, Urbana, Ohio
	 George Rogers Clark Illinois Reg't. McCarty's Co'y., Illinois
	 White Fox Traders, Toledo, Ohio
Simon Girty, Mansfield, Ohio George Rogers Clark Illinois Reg't.
McCarty's Co'y., Ohio Wild Goose Traders, Illinois
Karri Danner, Hammer Dulcimer, Toledo, Ohio Kentucky Light
Artillery, Cincinnati, Ohio Flying Canoe Traders, Trois Rivieres,
Quebec
Anne Starbuck, Ocarina, West Liberty, Ohio Northwest Territory
Alliance Bushnell Bottle Company, Toledo, Ohio
Kelly Brannan, Violinist, Bow Psaltery & Glass Armonica, Troy, Ohio
	 5th Bgd 1st Div Ohio Militia Munger's Rangers from
Centerville, Ohio Copper Creek Coppersmiths, Watertown,
Wisconsin
The Dulcimer Society, Bellefontaine, Ohio 1st U.S. Light
Artillery Ft. Wayne, Indiana Grizz Blacksmithy & Baskets,
Grayling, Michigan
The Liberty Dance Troupe (Faire at New Boston Dancers), Yellow
Springs, Ohio 1st American Continental Artillery, Galion, Ohio
	 Faire Tyme Toys, Chatham, Ontario
Shakespeare, Xenia, Ohio Stitch In Tyme, Navarre, Ohio
	 Smoking Iron Taylor Shop
Otto The Sword Swallower, Indianapolis, Indiana 3 Feathers Pewter
Smith, Millersburg, Ohio Big Horn Trading Company, Honey
Brook, Pennsylvania
Smoke & Fire Co. Sutlery, Grand Rapids, Ohio Briar Patch Sutlery,
Alexandria, Indiana And over 100 other crafters, demonstrators &
Units!!
For more information or to pre-register your unit please visit our
web site at: http://www.westliberty.com/calltoliberty
Deadline to register is March 1, 2002
Please RSVP
Before May 30, 2002

Thank you and God Bless,
Craig L. Haidet
West Liberty, Ohio Historical Society
craiglee@... (937) 465-9540
http://www.westliberty.com/calltoliberty

A Call To Liberty
Period 1760-1814
June 7-9, 2002
West Liberty, Ohio

  Hosted by:
84th Regt of Foot Royal Highland Emigrants (NWTA)
Columbus, Ohio

The call has gone out to period:
Craftsmen, Artisans, Voyageurs, Woodland Indians, Traders, Sutlers,
Entertainers, Fife & Drum Corps, & Military Re-enactors from the
French & Indian War, Revolutionary War & War of 1812:

To gather along the headwaters of the Mad River, along the Buckskin
Trail, in Mac-o-chee Valley, one time home to the fierce Shawnee,
Delaware, Mingo, Miami, Seneca, Cherokee, & Wyandotte. On the
location of a Shawnee Village that was the site of a battle in Lords
Dunmores War & a training area for General Hull as he gathered his
forces for the March along Hulls Trace to Ft. Detroit in the War of
1812.

Home to Moluntha, the Grenadier Squaw, Tarhe, Blackhoof, Black Fish,
Blue Jacket, Tecumseh & The Prophet;  Stomping grounds of the Zanes,
Col. Alexander McKee, Simon Girty, Simon Kenton, Daniel Boone,
Benjamin Logan, & General Hull

You are cordially invited to join the following units for our
festivities:
Common Stock, Indianapolis, Indiana Native American Ancestral
Association, Piqua, Ohio 1st Co. 2nd Bat. 84th Regiment of
Foot Royal Highland Emigrants, Columbus, Ohio
Rabbit Hash String Band, Cincinnati, Ohio Ohio Wagon Train
Association 84th Regt Royal Highland Emigrants Mounted,
Johnstown, Ohio
Russ Childers Early American Folk Music, Batavia, Ohio Woodland
Heritage Association, Springfield, Ohio Kent Re-enactment Society,
Chatham, Ontario
Diane Rankin, Author & Pioneer Woman Story Teller, DeGraff, Ohio
	 John Maxwell Cherokee Story Teller, South Charleston, Ohio
	 Green Tigers British Artillery, Alexandria, Indiana
Bob Ford, Musician & Teller, Cedarville, Ohio Rachel Chadwick
Wyandot Story Teller, Centerville, Ohio  78th Fraiser
Highlander Bag Pipe & Drum Corps with Scottish & Irish Dancers & Regt
Guard, Valapariaso, Indiana
Royal Scottish Country Dancers, Cincinnati, Ohio Shawnee
Indians, Ft. Wayne, Indiana The Plaid Piper, Green Bank, West
Virginia
Mary Gardner Story Teller Tecumseh, Mansfield, Ohio Damon
Defibaugh, Bag Piper
General George Washington, Mansfield, Ohio Shawnee Chief
Blackfish, Ft. Wayne, Indiana 84th Regt. of Foot Highland
Emigrants, Michigan Company
Charcloth Celtic & American Folk Music, Hamilton, Ohio Snow Owl
Shawnee Story Teller & Woodland Flutest from Disneys Pocahantas,
Urbana, Ohio 42nd Regiment of Foot Gordons Company
Dr. Quackenbush Magic, Music & Medicine Wagon Show, Indiana  2nd
Coy Georgia Artillery, Sudbury, Georgia
John Durant the Old World Troubadour, Fredricksburg, Maryland
	 Martin's Station Light Artillery from Huber Heights, Ohio
	 The Voyageurs Fife & Drum Corps, West Lafayette, Indiana
Ohio Chataquas General Simon Kenton, Mansfield, Ohio 27th U.S.
Infantry from Chatham, Ontario  Brigade Napoleon
Toni Cox, Story Teller, West Mansfield, Ohio Plymouth, Michigan
Fife & Drum Corps 21st Reg't. Of-the-Line French, Chicago,
Illinois
Rogues Concert, Cincinnati, Ohio Great Lakes Ancient Field
Musick Fife & Drum Corps, Michigan 7th Hussar's French
Faire Wynde, Dublin, Ohio Andrew Lewis Volunteers Fife & Drum
Corps, Blacksburg, Virginia 5th Hussar's French
Brad Kepler the Great Lakes Minstrel, Fremont, Ohio  Midnight
Riders Fife & Drum Corps, Detroit, Michigan De La Balmes Military
Forces from Columbia City, Indiana
Chatham Ontario Womans Temperance Society 1st American Regiment
Fife & drum Corps, Columbus, Ohio LeMieux L'Ecole des Armes,
Yellow Springs, Ohio
The Rat Catcher, Centerville, Ohio Culpepper Minute Battalion,
Indiana Ghost Forge Sutlery, Crawfordsville, Indiana
Rev. Llam McIntosh Presbyterian Circuit Rider, Urbana, Ohio
	 George Rogers Clark Illinois Reg't. McCarty's Co'y., Illinois
	 White Fox Traders, Toledo, Ohio
Simon Girty, Mansfield, Ohio George Rogers Clark Illinois Reg't.
McCarty's Co'y., Ohio Wild Goose Traders, Illinois
Karri Danner, Hammer Dulcimer, Toledo, Ohio Kentucky Light
Artillery, Cincinnati, Ohio Flying Canoe Traders, Trois Rivieres,
Quebec
Anne Starbuck, Ocarina, West Liberty, Ohio Northwest Territory
Alliance Bushnell Bottle Company, Toledo, Ohio
Kelly Brannan, Violinist, Bow Psaltery & Glass Armonica, Troy, Ohio
	 5th Bgd 1st Div Ohio Militia Munger's Rangers from
Centerville, Ohio Copper Creek Coppersmiths, Watertown,
Wisconsin
The Dulcimer Society, Bellefontaine, Ohio 1st U.S. Light
Artillery Ft. Wayne, Indiana Grizz Blacksmithy & Baskets,
Grayling, Michigan
The Liberty Dance Troupe (Faire at New Boston Dancers), Yellow
Springs, Ohio 1st American Continental Artillery, Galion, Ohio
	 Faire Tyme Toys, Chatham, Ontario
Shakespeare, Xenia, Ohio Stitch In Tyme, Navarre, Ohio
	 Smoking Iron Taylor Shop
Otto The Sword Swallower, Indianapolis, Indiana 3 Feathers Pewter
Smith, Millersburg, Ohio Big Horn Trading Company, Honey
Brook, Pennsylvania
Smoke & Fire Co. Sutlery, Grand Rapids, Ohio Briar Patch Sutlery,
Alexandria, Indiana And over 100 other crafters, demonstrators &
Units!!
For more information or to pre-register your unit please visit our
web site at: http://www.westliberty.com/calltoliberty
Deadline to register is March 1, 2002
Please RSVP
Before May 30, 2002

Thank you and God Bless,
Craig L. Haidet
West Liberty, Ohio Historical Society
craiglee@... (937) 465-9540
http://www.westliberty.com/calltoliberty

Point is, he did not ... some units are introduced as they march past
the crowd, some are not. Is doing it for all if its done for one such
a difficult concept?

> Hey folks, give Larry a break!  He told you that he reads what he is
> given.  Is that such a hard concept to grasp.  His is not the
easiest
> job, having to describe what is happening, especially when thing
get off
> of the planned action.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob Dorian
> USA

> Now good, Sir, shall we inspect your kit to whether it meats the
Warrant?
> ............
Say what you will about Cpl. Mitchell, there's never any meat on his
kit. He devours almost all of it, and what few scraps are left over
his lapdog Tetley snaps up.
There's certainly none left over for any Warrant Officers.
Cpl. Wattie
(Bronze Medallist, Iron Loyalist Comp. '02)

I find it unfortunate that some members of this list have nothing
better to do than criticize another reenactor's efforts at
Longwoods.  Mr. Lozon cannot be expected to know the name of every
fly-by-night re-enactment group that appears at an event.  Nor can he
be expected to know that the initials IMUC stand for the Volunteer
Battalion of Incorporated Militia of Upper Canada.  If the members of
that unit wish its name read out, they should register with the
proper name of their unit not an acronym.  As for identifying the
units as they march past, Larry almost always recognizes the Royal
Scots, as they come first in the column, and he usually recognizes
the 41st and the 8th and I've never heard him miss the "corps
du sauvage".
Personally I find that Larry does as good a job as the announcer as
any reasonable person could expect Larry to do.

Dave.

Dear list,

     Larry does an excellent job in entertaining the crowds and narrating the
battles.  He does it for free and if you think you can do a better job and
receive no critisism I'm sure he would be happy to let you have a go!!!
Larry did an excellent job at the Battle of Georgian Bay 1998 & 2001 and
with over 2000 re-enactors and no scrict I'm sure he missed a few regiments
and individual groups.  I heard no complaints!!  If and when the Battle of
Georgian Bay returns in 2004 Larry has already volunteered for the task and
I would have no other hands down!!!

     If you go to Battle Re-enactments just to hear your units name over the
P.A. system, I believe you have your priorities mixed up!!

You do a great job Larry and ignore anyone else that says otherwise!!

Dave Brunelle
Chairman - BGB 2001
Chairman - Historic Military Establihsment of Upper Canada
Royal Newfoundland Regiment

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Brunelle"
>
>     Larry does an excellent job

Correct Dave.   For years I have watched Larry perform as a member of the
public.  I'd like to see anyone else be as comfortable on the microphone as
he is.  Don't forget, not only does Larry narrate the battle, but he also
does a fair bit of talking leading up to it.  For what he's getting paid, if
he slips up, I think he can be forgiven.  It's his enthusiasm for his
narration that must be appreciated.

I'm sure it would be safe to say that if a regiment is not mentioned in the
walk by, the public are not aware of it or for that matter care.  In the
public's mind, they are most likely there to see some British , Americans
and natives wear pretty uniforms while firing loud guns at each other.  It's
entertainment, people.  Perhaps there are a few hardcore spectators
analysing the regimental facings and taking note of who's participating but
I highly doubt it.  Besides, those people have probably already found their
way into the hobby.

Larry....you rock!!!  In return, I expect you to mention me in person at
this years Battle of Stoney Creek. :)

Rich Parkinson
41st Regt. of Foot.

Let me see if I've got this straight:
If one offers criticism (presumably constructive) or suggestions about
the battle narration/play-by-play one is told only that Larry does an
excellent job and "if you think you can do a better job and receive no
critisism [sic] I'm sure he would be happy to let you have a go!!!"
Further, it is suggested that one attends re-enactments only to hear
one's units name over the P.A. system.
Hmmm ... I think this is what's known as argumentum ad absurdum.
I have yet to hear a reasonable answer to what seems to me to be a
perfectly reasonable suggestion: why not announce the participating
units to the crowd as they march past?

"Hey Gord , According to the Willie meter It didn't matter which side of the
river you were on !! Regards John <>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 1342
>
> Oh by the way with the cold we had on Fri.pm/Sat. am . If any
> > treehugger tries to tell you about Global warming, Butt
> Stroke 'em ! My
> > humble opinion only :^)
> > Regards John
>
> Hey John I thought it was tropical on your side of the river. :P
>
> Gord
>

Larry does a great service for our  hobby.  The Longwoods committee receives
dozens of very postive comments from the public every year. The quality of
the information he presents is excellent. The Longwoods committee would be
lost without his contribution to our event. On another note, I would like to
thank everyone who attended the event, especially Rob Trumbull and Peter
Twist for their leadership.  For all those looking for wood at the event,
please note that we provided 12 cords of wood and once clean up was finished
Sunday night, we had 3 cords left over. If there is a better system for the
provision of wood, please let us know. Also, the big red machine had a 40%
increase in numbers for the Saturday event. Tom Ross

----- Original Message -----
From: David Brunelle <brunelle@...>
To: <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:05 AM
Subject: [WarOf1812] Narrating Battles


> Dear list,
>
>     Larry does an excellent job in entertaining the crowds and narrating
the
> battles.  He does it for free and if you think you can do a better job and
> receive no critisism I'm sure he would be happy to let you have a go!!!
> Larry did an excellent job at the Battle of Georgian Bay 1998 & 2001 and
> with over 2000 re-enactors and no scrict I'm sure he missed a few
regiments
> and individual groups.  I heard no complaints!!  If and when the Battle of
> Georgian Bay returns in 2004 Larry has already volunteered for the task
and
> I would have no other hands down!!!
>
>     If you go to Battle Re-enactments just to hear your units name over
the
> P.A. system, I believe you have your priorities mixed up!!
>
> You do a great job Larry and ignore anyone else that says otherwise!!
>
> Dave Brunelle
> Chairman - BGB 2001
> Chairman - Historic Military Establihsment of Upper Canada
> Royal Newfoundland Regiment
>
>
>
>
> The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of
square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS of
square miles...
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

As a family of spectators I must agree that Larry does a spectatular
job of narrating some of the re enactments that we have gone too. He
lets the audience know the background of each battle, that is being
re enacted and introduces each unit the best he can.Sometimes there
are large units with many members and sometimes there are units with
only 2 members mixed in among the rest. He educates the audience not
only about the units and their Unit numbers but the history and
lifestyles,fashion and how the real battle was fought. I learned alot
about Billy Green and what he did but I could not tell you about
which units were there exactly but I do know it is not safe to go the
wrong way in the dark (Lundy's Lane)I thank Larry for narrating the
re enactments and also the history he shares with the crowd.
                                        Tracy forsyth
                                             Specatators

-

Dear List, I would like to make a few points to the current conversation.       
Larry does a very good job in narration.  It appears that the site provided him
with a list of names to read, and did exactly what he was ask to do.
If he was to read the names of units as they paraded by, how does one do this?  
There may be two or three units that are serving together as one company, how
could he or anyone be able to recognize every unit?   Will he be provided by the
site a list of the units in the actualy order they are marching. What if the
field commander changes the formation, what if they march by Left in
right....the list will then be backwards?    Will the formations have large
cards with numbers on them, like athletes or runners so that he can call their
names?                                                         I believe that it
is a daunting task to do so.   My unit, the 1st Infantry & Missouri Rangers
brigade with our sister units, and on occasion have been left out when names
were read or when others were referring to the company that all the units had
formed.   Our sister units are the 7th, 6th & 1st Rifles and the 25th.  It is
difficult for everyone to know every unit and every person in the units.
Personally, I feel he should simply read the names of the units who are in
attendance, which is what it appears that he is doing.

    Constructive Criticisms is good when solutions are advanced.
Sincerely, Dave Bennett 1st U.S. Infantry & Missouri Rangers.

<cwattie@n...> wrote:
> Let me see if I've got this straight:
> If one offers criticism (presumably constructive) or suggestions about
> the battle narration/play-by-play one is told only that Larry does an
> excellent job and "if you think you can do a better job and receive no
> critisism [sic] I'm sure he would be happy to let you have a go!!!"
> Further, it is suggested that one attends re-enactments only to hear
> one's units name over the P.A. system.
> Hmmm ... I think this is what's known as argumentum ad absurdum.
> I have yet to hear a reasonable answer to what seems to me to be a
> perfectly reasonable suggestion: why not announce the participating
> units to the crowd as they march past?

Dear Listmembers:
     At the Stoney Creek event this a feature of last year's week-end
will be revived.  The Church Parade that was held on Sunday morning was
such a hit with the SC United Church that they have invited us back.
The church is the continuing congregation of the old Saltfleet Methodist
Church and is celebrating its 210th anniversary.  The original building
(the foundations of which are still visible in the graveyard near Hwy
#20) was used as a field hospital by the troops in June 1813, and was
later occupied as a barracks in early October by the 100th Regiment of
Foot, an Irish Protestant Regiment - who trashed the place!!
     The service begins at 10.00 am, and should be over by 11.00am.  It
will have period hymns, and a small 'west gallery band' - also a period
feature - to accompany the singing.  I hope as many of you as possible
can attend.  details on the assembly and march to the church will follow
later.
With greetings to all,
Ray Hobbs
41st Regt. of Foot

Everyone please stop this current discussion thread. I feel a group
hung coming up! ;-)



Terry

Ray -  as you may remember from last year, I thought that church
parade/service was an intriguing event, although as it turned out I
didn't attend it (I don't seem to handle the mornings after the
nights before as well as I used to).  How far is it from Battle Field
House to the church?  -  I do abhor death marches.      Doug


--- In WarOf1812@y..., Raymond Hobbs <ray.hobbs@s...> wrote:
> Dear Listmembers:
>     At the Stoney Creek event this a feature of last year's week-end
> will be revived.  The Church Parade that was held on Sunday morning
was
> such a hit with the SC United Church that they have invited us back.
> The church is the continuing congregation of the old Saltfleet
Methodist
> Church and is celebrating its 210th anniversary.  The original
building
> (the foundations of which are still visible in the graveyard near
Hwy
> #20) was used as a field hospital by the troops in June 1813, and
was
> later occupied as a barracks in early October by the 100th Regiment
of
> Foot, an Irish Protestant Regiment - who trashed the place!!
>     The service begins at 10.00 am, and should be over by 11.00am.
It
> will have period hymns, and a small 'west gallery band' - also a
period
> feature - to accompany the singing.  I hope as many of you as
possible
> can attend.  details on the assembly and march to the church will
follow
> later.
> With greetings to all,
> Ray Hobbs
> 41st Regt. of Foot

Doug:
The church is exactly 600 metres from the entrance to the park -
certainly not a death march, and doable in Ordinary Time in ten minutes
at the outside, probably less.
Ray

colsjtjones2000 wrote:

>  Ray -  as you may remember from last year, I thought that church
> parade/service was an intriguing event, although as it turned out I
> didn't attend it (I don't seem to handle the mornings after the
> nights before as well as I used to).  How far is it from Battle Field
> House to the church?  -  I do abhor death marches.      Doug
>
>
> --- In WarOf1812@y..., Raymond Hobbs <ray.hobbs@s...> wrote:
> > Dear Listmembers:
> >     At the Stoney Creek event this a feature of last year's week-end
>
> > will be revived.  The Church Parade that was held on Sunday morning
> was
> > such a hit with the SC United Church that they have invited us back.
>
> > The church is the continuing congregation of the old Saltfleet
> Methodist
> > Church and is celebrating its 210th anniversary.  The original
> building
> > (the foundations of which are still visible in the graveyard near
> Hwy
> > #20) was used as a field hospital by the troops in June 1813, and
> was
> > later occupied as a barracks in early October by the 100th Regiment
> of
> > Foot, an Irish Protestant Regiment - who trashed the place!!
> >     The service begins at 10.00 am, and should be over by 11.00am.
> It
> > will have period hymns, and a small 'west gallery band' - also a
> period
> > feature - to accompany the singing.  I hope as many of you as
> possible
> > can attend.  details on the assembly and march to the church will
> follow
> > later.
> > With greetings to all,
> > Ray Hobbs
> > 41st Regt. of Foot
>
>
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List:
     Some time ago there was a discussion about the 'seven barrelled gun'
contemporary with the 1812 period, and which the fictitious Sergeant
Harper used with such dexterity in the Sharpe series.
     I recall seeing such a gun in the Welsh Folk Museum at St. Fagan's
just outside Cardiff, and made enquiries about it.  I received the
following reply from the Assistant Curator of the Museum, and will
follow up the suggestion of contacting the gun expert at the Welch
Regiment Museum in Cardiff (The 41st!)  Any further news will be shared
with the group.
Sincerely
Ray Hobbs
41st Regt. of Foot
***********************


-----Original Message-----
From: Sioned Wyn Hughes
Sent: 13 May 2002 16:21
To: 'ray.hobbs@...'
Subject: seven barreled gun


Dear Mr Hobbs

Thank you for your e-mail regarding the seven barrelled gun in our
collection.  It was donated to the Museum by Sir J.H. Williams-Drummond
of
Edwinstone, Talley, Carmarthenshire,  complete with powder flask and
loading
equipment, in 1947 and dates from c. 1830.   Its Museum of Welsh Life
Accession number is 47.316/58
Unfortunately, this is the only infotmation we have relating to the gun.

Museum Curators did not seem to aquire much infomation regarding the
objects
they collected in 1947!  Additionally, the gun is in a case and cannot
be
examined closely to find out the manufacturer's mark etc.  However, a
gun
expert in the Cardiff area might know of the gun and its hitory.  I have

passed on your e-mail to him.  He is John Dart, Welch Regiment Museum,
The
Barbican Towers, Cardiff Castle, CF1 2RB  Telephone number:  02920229367

should you wish to contact him yourself.

Yours sincerely

Sioned Hughes
Assistant Curator - Historical Buildings and Commerce

Ray  -  not bad.  Frankly, I survived a Legion church parade a week
ago to a memorial service for VE Day and the Battle of the Atlantic.
It was a fine show  - pipe band, large Colour Guard, et al.  (I
particularly enjoyed swinging my arms in modern drill.)  We marched
from the West Hill Legion (#258) to the Anglican Church across the
street.  Since I managed that 200 metres ok, perhaps I can extend it
to your 600 metres, notwithstanding the night before.

Regards,   Doug


--- In WarOf1812@y..., Raymond Hobbs <ray.hobbs@s...> wrote:
> Doug:
> The church is exactly 600 metres from the entrance to the park -
> certainly not a death march, and doable in Ordinary Time in ten
minutes
> at the outside, probably less.
> Ray
>
> colsjtjones2000 wrote:
>
> >  Ray -  as you may remember from last year, I thought that church
> > parade/service was an intriguing event, although as it turned out
I
> > didn't attend it (I don't seem to handle the mornings after the
> > nights before as well as I used to).  How far is it from Battle
Field
> > House to the church?  -  I do abhor death marches.      Doug
> >
> >
> > --- In WarOf1812@y..., Raymond Hobbs <ray.hobbs@s...> wrote:
> > > Dear Listmembers:
> > >     At the Stoney Creek event this a feature of last year's
week-end
> >
> > > will be revived.  The Church Parade that was held on Sunday
morning
> > was
> > > such a hit with the SC United Church that they have invited us
back.
> >
> > > The church is the continuing congregation of the old Saltfleet
> > Methodist
> > > Church and is celebrating its 210th anniversary.  The original
> > building
> > > (the foundations of which are still visible in the graveyard
near
> > Hwy
> > > #20) was used as a field hospital by the troops in June 1813,
and
> > was
> > > later occupied as a barracks in early October by the 100th
Regiment
> > of
> > > Foot, an Irish Protestant Regiment - who trashed the place!!
> > >     The service begins at 10.00 am, and should be over by
11.00am.
> > It
> > > will have period hymns, and a small 'west gallery band' - also a
> > period
> > > feature - to accompany the singing.  I hope as many of you as
> > possible
> > > can attend.  details on the assembly and march to the church
will
> > follow
> > > later.
> > > With greetings to all,
> > > Ray Hobbs
> > > 41st Regt. of Foot
> >
> >
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>                         ADVERTISEMENT
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> > of square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of
> > THOUSANDS of square miles...
> >
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Service.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

List:
I have been reminded by a member who attended the church service last
year that the distance of 600 metres is 656.168 yards - this for the
benefit of reenactors of US troops, or any participants from the US -
ALL are welcome to attend the service.
The said anonymous member also recalled the pleasant tea, coffee and
goodies provided for us after the service - worth the price of
admission, he thinks!
Sincerely
Ray Hobbs
41st Regt. of Foot

Actually, I did advance a solution if you read the past posts. But no
matter ...
If it's too difficult to read off the individual units as they trot by,
that's understandable. Then I would hope the narrator (be it Larry or
anyone else) would simply read off the list provided by the organizers
at the end of the battle.
Not identify some units as they march past and not name others which
could be misconstrued, as I'm sure Mr. Lozon would agree.

>
>    Constructive Criticisms is good when solutions are advanced.
Sincerely, Dave Bennett 1st U.S. Infantry & Missouri Rangers.
>

1812'ers:

                I would like to thank all who posted their concerns
regarding this subject both on and off this list.

Those who know me, realise that I do not judge any unit by the
actions of a few of their members.

I shall also continue to do exactly what the Event Co-ordinator
asks and expects me to do.


Now, shall we move on to another topic .......... ?!?!?

~ how about "Flash Guards"
                     "Uniforms made of synthetic materials"
                     "Creating a real 1812 British Army Encampment at events"
                     etc.

as I consider this conversation over, as per the wishes
of the subscribers of this list.

Larry Lozon

See what those other Irish will do!
No Irish of the green kind would do that!  (please don't do any research on
Ancaster or Turkey Point)
Kevin
89th Reg't
(now the Royal Irish Reg't)

Raymond Hobbs wrote:

> the 100th Regiment of Foot, an Irish Protestant Regiment - who trashed the
place!!

Today we added several sutlers, voyageurs, Trappers, BROOKS
DETACHMENT US MARINES 1812 from Troy, Michigan and THE SENECA NATION
Dancers, Drummers & Craftsmen from New York.