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#10622 From: mmathews@...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 3:32 pm
Subject: Re: safety rules
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>From: chimera1@...
>
>...there already is an existing widely accepted body of
>safety rules/guidelines ...
>......why not issue them as guidelines (not rules)
>---------------------------------
>so the red light or stop sign is suggestive not mandatory?!?!
>
>~ we all receive Safety rules from Ft. George, Ft. Erie,
>Mississinewa, etc. and they are all the same a conglomerate
>of  NPS (USA) and Parks Canada sooooooooo
>just enforce them............

Even then it's not always easy.  I support the notion of an unbrella group,
but sometimes they don't always succeed.  Take for example my experience at
Fort Meigs last year for the August F&I event.  A couple of umbrella groups
in play with overall COs set up.  We received a (IMO) silly multiple page
set of safety and site rules which my little group actually read.  I doubt
many others went through the lengthy text.  I love it at Meigs and go at
least once a year, but we were actually laughing at the detail of some of
the regs.

So, we go out for the first tactical, which is an unscripted skirmish
within the fort.  Ebb and flow, lots of shooting, good time.  Afterwards
our French group goes out to police the grounds of papers and I find
several whole cartridges in a little pile (Ranger droppings) that have been
sealed with wax.  An act expressly forbidden by the safety regs.  So I take
them to the unit CO that has adopted us for the weekend (just three made it
from my group) and he takes them to the French CO.  And there seemingly it
died.  Anyway we found more later in the weekend.  So the point is, we
can't count on rules being enforced even at the top of the food chain if
they happen to think it's silly.  I'm sure messers Abolt and Trumball do a
fine job with the US forces, and we've perhaps been spoiled by the
consistency and skill of Tim, Steve, Benton and probably others.  (I don't
get east that much.)  But what if they aren't there?  I feel there needs to
be a mechanism in place.

Second example of relying too much on the reenactor command structure, same
event.  Miegs has a wonderful pyrotechnics set up.  Ground charges are
laid, COs are acquinted with the positions and the battle is to be fought.
But at the last minute the French CO decides to take it easy on us and not
march so far, so we go out a different gate than scheduled.  For whatever
reason, the charges go off anyway and several of our people are now
sporting burn holes in their coats or flesh.  Now I'm very much into the
"veteran" look so I wear my stains and burn holes with pride, but not all
are of that philosophy.  Now, lest you think I'm being critical of Meigs
I'm not.  I'm very appreciative of how they have treated us in the past and
will always return, plus I feel they handled the latter incident in a very
up front manner.  I'll be back.

So in conclusion, even with extensive safety rules provided by the site,
unless there are some teeth to the organization and accountability you are
at the mercy of individuals to enforce (or not) as they see fit.

Thanks,
Michael

Michael Mathews -- Winona State University
Voice: (507) 285-7585  Cel: (507) 429-5945   Fax: (507) 280-5568
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#10623 From: dave8365@...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 11:45 am
Subject: Umbrella Groups/Lawsuits
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Hi all,

After reading some of the posts regarding whether an umbrella group could
enforce laws

I don't think the Boy Scouts analogy is correct; the primary basis for the
Boy Scout's opposition to gays is a combination of religious/moral beliefs
("morally straight") and freedom of association grounds.

In our situation, these issues are overcome by 2 simple things:

1.  A consent form which lists any requirements for participation at an
event, and sets forth the various punishments (ejection from an event,
termination of membership in the group, flogging, etc.) if these requirements
are violated; and

2.  An insurance policy.  This avoids any kind of personal/group liability
for any losses, and would not be, I think, terribly expensive.

As a practical matter, there aren't a whole lot of lawyers who will get
terribly excited over suing an re-enactor group because someone got booted
off a site.  The value of any possible award would not make a contingent fee
attractive, because the measure of damages, other than hurt pride, are very
difficult.  Also, there would not be (at least under California law) any
basis for punitive/exemplary damages, and both the lawyer and his or her
client would run a great risk of being laughed out of court by a jury.

Cheers,
David L. Lynch, Esq.
Ensign, 93rd

PS - Anyone reading the above, and thereby benefiting from my legal advice,
is requested to send me $10.00.  Please e-mail me for address or bank wire
information.

DLL


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#10624 From: "Larry Lozon" <lalozon@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 4:16 pm
Subject: leaking holes...
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From: harris4t@...

keeping the "riff raff" out is appealing.
The difficulty I see are legal issues which I have not heard anyone
speaking of. ......He/She sues someone...the organizers or the
Unbrella groups ......In the end it becomes the responsibility of the
site organizers, establishing standards, safety or historically.
................................................................................\
......

That is why the BAR and BB post that the event is a Private event
for members of the BAR & BB and their invited guests -
no walk ons allowed, and the organizers agree.

You can't just walk into a private
golf course "PRIVATE - MEMBERS ONLY"

I guess it boils down to......
  if you want to eliminate the problems make it so No. 1....
......or we can conjure up ghosts n' complain that it was
a dangerous or farby event........
........so mode it be

























































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#10625 From: BritcomHMP@...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: coins
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In a message dated 4/2/2001 10:28:16 AM Central Daylight Time,
ray.hobbs@... writes:

<< Max mentioned that she was interested in a Militia Officer's wife.  They
were certainly not under the regulations regarding religion in the British
Army.  Out of
  necessity, Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterians, Catholics all held rank in
the Militia units in the Canadas, without penalty.  There were so few
resident Anglicans in
  the Provinces. >>

Yes indeed Ray. I agree 100 %, however I was thinking (and this is pure
supposition as I have no actual info on the specific situation) that, in the
presence of regular officers at least, Catholicism would have been played
down or at least not 'pushed' with outward display. There most certainly were
Catholics in the officer ranks of the regulars, particularly the Guards (old
families), but I was just thinking that even a militia officers wife might be
a little circumspect about making too much of a public display.

Cheers

Tim

#10626 From: "Maxine Trottier" <maxitrot@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 7:21 pm
Subject: RE: coins
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Tim, I must acquaint you with les femmes in time.

Seriously, everything that I have on the Canadians and my family at Sandwich
in 1812 shows very strong ties with the church.

Max


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#10627 From: "Dave Hill" <dave.bev@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 7:49 pm
Subject: Re: coins
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--- In WarOf1812@y..., "Maxine Trottier" <maxitrot@e...> wrote:

  Seriously, everything that I have on the Canadians and my family at
  Sandwich in 1812 shows very strong ties with the church.
  Max


Max,

I'm not up on the law, as practised in 1812, but there are a couple
of points.  The Quebec Act of 1774(?) guaranteed the practice of the
Roman Catholic religion in the former French colony of Canada.  There
was no Upper Canada at that time.  Upper Canada was formed out of the
former French colony after the American Rebellion. Parenthetically,
the Quebec Act was one of the five Intolerable Acts that lit the fuse
of the rebellion.  The question is if the right to practise Roman
Catholicism carried over into Upper Canada.  I have never read of any
major prohibitions against it, but then I haven't read everything

Dave.

#10628 From: "Schifferdecker, Patrick" <patrick.schifferdecker@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 7:47 pm
Subject: (No subject)
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Can someone send me the address for the e-group home page?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Patrick Schifferdecker
Site Manager
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PO Box 51
Pine City, MN 55063
320.629.6356
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#10629 From: Dan <musketballs@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 8:20 pm
Subject: Re: Umbrella Groups
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I like the idea of an umbrella group. Everytime I've
been to Mississinewa it rained & we all got wet. We
could've used an umbrella.
And what about hot tea groups too?

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#10630 From: yawors1@...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: "home page"
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WarOf1812

though I believe you have to sign in at the yahoo.group 'main page' before
you can get to the 1812 home page.

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Cheers,
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#10631 From: BritcomHMP@...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 4:31 pm
Subject: Re: coins
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In a message dated 4/2/2001 3:12:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
maxitrot@... writes:

<< Tim, I must acquaint you with les femmes in time.>>

I have always enjoyed acquaintanceship with les femmes, at any time ! :-)

  <<Seriously, everything that I have on the Canadians and my family at
Sandwich
  in 1812 shows very strong ties with the church. >>

Oh I am not doubting the strength of the ties, just the outward show of the
ties at that particular time.

Of course I could be quite wrong as I am more familiar with what happened in
England. One chap I know over there is a senior officer of the Grenadier
Guards, he is proud of the fact that his family is both recusant AND has an
unbroken line of service in the 1st Foot Guards from their formation in
Holland by the future Charles II.

I am sure the religious affiliation of officers was well known but I just
think that the officer and his lady would not do anything that might provoke
an unwanted comment from some quater.

Cheers

Tim

#10632 From: Zorniak <zorniak1@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 9:24 pm
Subject: Re: Huzzah? (LONG)
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Larry,

Here is the article you were after:

Huzzah! or Huzzay!

What is the proper 18th Century pronunciation?

By Norm and Betty Fuss 2nd New York CCM

For as long as we have been living historians, everyone in the field has
pronounced the popular 18th century cheer “Huzza” as Huzzah. Neither we, nor
anyone else we know
has ever thought to question the pronunciation - until now.

Several months ago, while rehearsing a short after-piece by David Gamck entitled
The Farmer’s Return From London we came across the following passage:

WIFE But was’t thou at court, John? What there has thou seen?

FARMER I saw ‘em, heaven bless ‘em! You know who I mean.
I heard their healths prayed for agen and agen, With proviso that one may be
sick now and ten.
Some looks speak their hearts, as it were with a tongue.
Oh, Dame! Ill be damned if they e’er do us wrong:
Here’s to ‘em, bless ‘em boath. Do you take the jug.
Would’t do their hearts good, I’d swallow the mug. (Drinks)
(To Dick) Come, pledge me, my boy.
Hold, lad; hast nothing to say?

DICK Here, Daddy, heres toem! (Drinks)

FARMER Well said, Dick, boy!

DICK Huzza! [emphasis added]

The entire piece is in rhyming couplets similar to a Dr. Seuss work. The only
rhyming error in the piece would be Huzza, pronounced Huzzah. But if Huzza is
pronounced
Huzzay, it fits.

This aroused our curiosity. What is the proper 18th Century pronunciation of
Huzza? And had we all been mispronouncing it all these years?

We looked in Johnson’s Dictionary and found the following:

Huzza’. n.s. A shout; a cry of acclamation.

The Huzzas of the rabble are the same to a bear as
they are to a prince.   LEstrange.

You keep a parcel of roaring bullies about me day
and night; huzzas
and hunting horns never let me cool.  Arbuthnot

All fame is foreign, but of true desert;
Plays round the head, but comes not to the heart:
One self-approving hour whole years outweighs
Of stupid starers and loud huzzas.  Pope

The first two examples of the use of the word huzza, being prose, give no hint
to its proper pronunciation. But the third, being poetry, does. And the
indicated
pronunciation is Huzzay, not Huzzah.

Intrigued, we consulted other 18th Century dictionaries with the following
results.

Of the 11 dictionaries  (in addition to Johnson) published between 1724 and 1806
that we consulted, all bad accent marks indicating that the emphasis is to be
placed on
the last syllable (huzz-A). Six had no other indication of proper pronunciation.
Five (Fenning, Perry, Sheridan, Walker, and Webster) indicated proper
pronunciation by
various means. Although the means differed, the indicated pronunciation in all
five was the same - Huzzay. (Perry and Webster also offer a second pronunciation
in which
the a may be pronounced to rhyme with the a in ask.)

Fenning, Perry, Sheridan and Walker also indicate proper pronunciation of the u
in Huzza. Here opinion is divided, with two (Fenning and Sheridan) indicating a
short u as
in tub, cup, sup, and two (Walker and Perry) indicating a middle or obtuse u as
in bull, full, pull.

This set us on a search for other examples of Huzza used in a context that would
indicate the intended pronunciation. Rhyming poetry being the obvious place to
look, we
searched numerous works for examples. So far we have found only two other
examples.

One is in a poem titled An Ode to Peace, by an author styling himself “Crito,”
in The General Magazine of Newcastle Upon Tyne for October, 1748. The pertinent
passage is:

While we wait thy warm Caresses,
Urge us on in loyal Ways;
Not in formal trite Addresses,
Not in Riot and Huzzas.

  The other is in a song that appeared on an engraved song sheet about 1780
titled The Drum. The rhyme scheme is aabbcb, and the pertinent verse is:

Now over the bottle, our valour we boast,
While the drum, hark the drum, hark the drum rolls every toast.
For America now, Huzza!
The work’s ne’er done, we’ll dance, sing, and play,
And the drum we’ll unbrace, and the drum we’ll unbrace,
Till a war again calls away.

So far, we have found six contemporary 18th Century dictionary references and
three contemporary 18th Century poetly references that clearly indicate the
proper
pronunciation of Huzza to be Huzzay, and none indicating the proper
pronunciation to be Huzzah. We will continue to search for further examples of
the use of the word
Huzza that give an indication of its proper 18th Century pronunciation, and urge
others to do so also.

From: The Brigade Dispatch, XXVII No. 3 Autumn1998

Don

Larry Lozon wrote:

> From: Rob Taylor
>
> Can anyone tell me how this came to be "HUZZAH"???
>
> Rob, the BAR is doing research on this word. Whether
> it was pronounced huzzaw or huzzay. They have poems
> and plays from the 1700's that use the word. I will
> search for the article and report back.
>
> PS: another benefit of an Umbrellie Groop.....*
>
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> The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of
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square miles...
>
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#10634 From: dancingbobd@...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: Umbrella Groups/Lawsuits
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David,

$10.00 - - - HAH!!!

You are entitled to your fantasy!

Bob Dorian
U.S. Engineer

#10635 From: chimera1@...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 9:56 pm
Subject: Re: PROVOST CORPS
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Howard  -  a Provost Corps first came up in a submission by Larry
mentioning that the BAR's Provost Corps has the responsibility of
enforcing the RULES.  That is more than doing an impression.  Do you
want to take on that function?       Doug


--- In WarOf1812@y..., Howard <howardsimcoe@h...> wrote:
> If not for the lack of a horse.
> I would not mind doing an impression of the Provost Corps
(Lieutenant
> Colonel Scovell's MP's)
> Does any one have any information on the Corps and equipment ?
>
> Howard
>
> Larry Lozon wrote:
> >
> > From: chimera1@s...
> >
> > Larry, some good info and points.
> > But the BAR have a PROVOST
> > CORPS???  I rest my case.
> > ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
> >
> > Not so fast Councillor ........
> >
> > If we have an Umbrellie Groop, we
> > could also have or appoint a unit
> > to act as ..... a PROVOST CORPS.
> >
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> >
> >
> > The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of
hundreds of square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the
fate of THOUSANDS of square miles...
> >
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#10636 From: "Chewie" <bkba21788@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 10:00 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Umbrella Groups
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even I am up for going to Canada , if there is a hot tea group .

Chewie
unit commander
Dirty Half Hundred
" not a good looking bunch , but devilish steady"
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   Subject: [WarOf1812] Re: Umbrella Groups


   I like the idea of an umbrella group. Everytime I've
   been to Mississinewa it rained & we all got wet. We
   could've used an umbrella.
   And what about hot tea groups too?

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#10637 From: HQ93rd@...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Umbrella Groups
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In a message dated 4/2/01 1:39:29 PM, musketballs@... writes:

<< And what about hot tea groups too? >>

And a buttered scone group!


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#10638 From: dave8365@...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 6:53 pm
Subject: Fees...
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In a message dated 4/2/01 3:39:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> David,
>
> $10.00 - - - HAH!!!
>
> You are entitled to your fantasy!
>
> Bob Dorian
> U.S. Engineer
>


In your case, Bob, you may pay your proportional share of my legal fees in
Port...I'll bring the glasses!

Cheers,
Dave Lynch
93rd


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#10639 From: jeverett@...
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 1:06 am
Subject: Coins
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Richard, might the figures you listed refer to "Halifax Currency"?  As
I understand, it, like New York Currency, was used as "money of
account."  That is, was used for bookkeeping purposes.  It originated
as a means of comparing British money with the old French coinage in
use in Quebec.  There were 5 shillings to the Halifax Dollar; 20
shillings equals a Halifax Pound of 4 Dollars.

I don't know if that works out with the numbers you provided.  The
company I'm working for now is just ending its fiscal year, so I'm all
mathed out.  ;-)


For those who would like to carry about a bit of the coinage of the
period, there were also "Tokens".  As the Colonies could not mint
their own money, but still needed to make change for small
transactions, Tokens were made in Penny, Half-Penny, etc.,
denominations.  Some of them are quite interesting.  I have one in my
collection that lists a number of Wellington's Peninsular victories on
the reverse side.  It's been a while since I went in search of them,
but I found they can often be picked up for an equal amount, or less,
than actual period British coins.

Jason Everett
Capt., Incorporated Militia

#10640 From: "Maxine Trottier" <maxitrot@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 1:08 am
Subject: RE: correct food
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I have access to Iroquois corn. But for those far away from the settlement,
this site could be of use, especially if you are interested in correct food.
Now, what is made with these things is not for the gentry, necessarily. The
correct recipes I have come right from the Oneidas, but officers have to eat
and once you try corn soup with venison...

http://www.berkshire.net/ensc/nativeseed/

Max


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#10641 From: "Greg Butt" <gbutt@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 2:12 am
Subject: Recruiting for the regiment
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Dear Members of the list,

I am making one of my very infrequent forays onto the list, although I do enjoy
reading the at time vigourous discussion on the many topics. Here in the distant
colony of New South Wales we are always desparatelty short of men to take the
field and only once or twice a do year manage to hold an event with more than 2
regiments present!.

THis leads me to my question, how do the regiments in Canada and the USA go
about recruiting for themselves?. We of the 73rd regt. have attended a very
large number of fairs, open days at Historic sites etc. over the last few years
and whilst always very well received (Aussie women do seem to like a man in
uniform, red of course), we do not seem to attract many recruits.

WE sometimes get enquiries from seemingly interested people on the day which we
follow up but usually do not hear back from them again. Any suggestions from the
members of this list would be most gratefully received.

Gregory Butt
Sgt. 73rd Regt

PS please excuse my spelling!


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#10642 From: "Maxine Trottier" <maxitrot@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 12:18 pm
Subject: RE: literature
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On the topic of books for young people, Scholastic is in the process of
creating the Canadian version of their very successful Dear America series.
This will be the Dear Canada series. I know that a book about Loyalists and
one on the War of 1812 are on the way.

They are done in diary format. I know some of the writers who are working on
these projects as well as some of the historians and experts who will be
proofing them. They will be carefully done and very readable.

I am writing the 7th book, one dealing with Les Files du Roi (which,
forgive, has nothing to do with this list other than that it is Canadian
history.) The manuscript deadline is in 2002 and I am just bracing for
another rather big 1812 project, so back to the correct century!

My point is, good books for young people are out there.

Max

Maxine Trottier
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#10643 From: Raymond Hobbs <ray.hobbs@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 9:01 am
Subject: Re: literature
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Right-on Max:
     There was an announcement in the Globe and Mail this morning concerning the
short list for the annual (13th) Geoffrey Bilson Award for Historical Fiction
for
Children.  The competition is sponsored by the National Library in Ottawa.  It
ain't worth much ($1,000), but it gets one's name out there.
     My daughter is the Literary Manuscript Librarian at the NL, and has a
colleague whose work is dedicated entirely to Children's Fiction.  'Tis an
important cultural
and educational medium.
Ray Hobbs
1/41st

Maxine Trottier wrote:

> On the topic of books for young people, Scholastic is in the process of
> creating the Canadian version of their very successful Dear America series.
> This will be the Dear Canada series. I know that a book about Loyalists and
> one on the War of 1812 are on the way.
>
> They are done in diary format. I know some of the writers who are working on
> these projects as well as some of the historians and experts who will be
> proofing them. They will be carefully done and very readable.
>
> I am writing the 7th book, one dealing with Les Files du Roi (which,
> forgive, has nothing to do with this list other than that it is Canadian
> history.) The manuscript deadline is in 2002 and I am just bracing for
> another rather big 1812 project, so back to the correct century!
>
> My point is, good books for young people are out there.
>
> Max
>
> Maxine Trottier
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#10644 From: tlubka@...
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: Recruiting for the regiment
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--- In WarOf1812@y..., "Greg Butt" <gbutt@o...> wrote:
> THis leads me to my question, how do the regiments in Canada and the
USA go about recruiting for themselves?.

Gregory,
I suggest you use the internet. Get a webpage created on your
reenactment group and make sure you include the geographical area your
group is located. People doing searches on the net will find you.
This is how I got our latest recruit. As a matter of fact I've had
inquiries from about 6 people through the internet.
We have done the recruitment booth scenario but found that didn't
work. The net is the way to go.

Terry

#10645 From: "Maxine Trottier" <maxitrot@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 1:11 pm
Subject: RE: literature
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Barb Attard, whose book Love-Lies-Bleeding was short-listed is a close
friend of mine. We are very excited about the short listing for her. It's
like "was nominated for an academy award." Even a short listing can make a
difference in your royalties.

The Geoffrey Bilson and the IODE are very important to writers of historical
fiction.

But, of course, you write for the same reason you re-enact: because you love
it.

Max


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#10646 From: Kevin Windsor <kevin.windsor@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 3:16 am
Subject: Re: Recruiting for the regiment
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There are so many different ways of recruiting that I bet you have tried with
little success, so maybe some of these may help.
1.  Check with living history museums.  See if some of the people
volunteering/working at the site want to join you and you them.
2.  Try a first person recruitment drive.  March in faires decked out in ribbons
strutting your stuff and encourage people to take the Kings shilling! (or you
could be like the RN and just kidnap them)
3.  Put an add in your local newspaper.  Have a information night for newbies
and explain the cost equipment etc.  Also for this you can fundraise and get
equipment for them to use and work on a one year payment plan.  Works for some
groups not others.  Some on the list say it makes it too easy for people to get
in, but that is why you need to be careful of who you select.
We in the Wentworth Re-enactment Society have an application (still being worked
on) that is (will be) filled out stating why you want to join, what you want to
do, and a bit about yourself.  (also for those interested we ask for two
references if the applicant belongs/belonged to another unit.  One must be unit
CO)
Right now the new members are being jurored by other members.
Try any of these or anything you can think of.
Don't be afraid to use print, radio or TV!
Set up a webpage (I think there is a group in AU that has one, not sure if it's
yours)
You could also run a regency style ball or dance lessons to drum up business and
have some fun as well.  (Capt. Everett are you up for a trip to NSW to teach
dance lessons?)

Let me know how some of these work for you
Kevin Windsor
WRS

Greg Butt wrote:

> THis leads me to my question, how do the regiments in Canada and the USA go
about recruiting for themselves?.

#10647 From: "Maxine Trottier" <maxitrot@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 2:02 pm
Subject: RE: Recruiting for the regiment
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If you are a family group, let that be known. Women and children have a
place in this too.

Max


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#10648 From: "Cpl. Wattie" <watties@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 2:17 pm
Subject: Re: Recruiting for the regiment
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> The net is the way to go.

True enough: the Internet is a great recruiting "poster" if you will,
although getting your site listed on the major search engines can be
a real pain.
But your own members are a good tool too. The friendlier they are
with the public, the more they mention how you're looking for
recruits (to friends, co-workers, or just people who walk up to you
at events) the more bites you'll get. Try printing up a bunch of
leaflets before your next event and have your members keep them in
their haversacks so if/when some unsuspecting person walks up to them
with an interest in joining, they have all the information ready for
them.
But my experience has been that roughly half of the expressions of
interest will turn into recruits.
Another key is being set up to take new folks in: loaners of
equipment, special drill sessions for newbies, and so on can really
help people turn that initial curiosity into a commitment to the
hobby.
I could go on and on ... e-mail me if you want more info Greg. And
good luck!
Chris
Inc. Militia of Upper Canada
(http://www.imuc.org)

#10649 From: "Larry Lozon" <lalozon@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 3:41 pm
Subject: corn soup with venison
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From: Maxine Trottier

I have access to Iroquois corn.
...these things is not for the gentry, necessarily.
.......correct recipes ......from the Oneidas, but
officers have to eat and once you try corn soup
with venison...

..................

Madame, having served in His Majesty's Indian
Department in the Canadas, you may attend my
Marquee anytime with yur Corps d'Savage fare.

By God we may be in the wilderness but we
are Gentlemen, and Gentlemen need sustenance......

















































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#10650 From: "Maxine Trottier" <maxitrot@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 4:09 pm
Subject: RE: corn soup with venison
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My thanks, sir. Les Sauvage know how to eat. At Niagara a few weeks ago
there was a guard posted round me the entire time I cooked. Whether this was
to protect the soup or me, I cannot say. I have my suspicions, though.

Max


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#10651 From: "Schifferdecker, Patrick" <patrick.schifferdecker@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 4:31 pm
Subject: Huzzah?
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From: 1811 Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue.

HUZZA.- Said to have been originally the cry of the huzzars or Hungarian
light horse; but now the national shout of the English, both civil and
military, in the sea phrase termed a cheer; to give three cheers being to
huzza thrice.

Cheers,
Patrick Schifferdecker
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#10652 From: jeverett@...
Date: Wed Apr 4, 2001 1:05 am
Subject: Re: Recruiting for the regiment
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> You could also run a regency style ball or dance lessons to drum up
business and have some fun as well.  (Capt. Everett are you up for a
trip to NSW to teach dance lessons?)

As much as I'd be intrigued to see a different part of the globe and
visit the folks "down under", that's a fair distance to go, either by
way of the Cape or the Horn.  Nor is the shipping season started, and
you know what the road to Montreal is like in the spring.

Besides which, I don't think I would be granted Leave of Absence for
such a purpose.

I remain, etc.
Jason Everett
Capt., Incorp. Militia

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