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Greetings, on this list serve, I think, most feel that PR is best because it offers the most representation; i.e. approaching direct democracy. Do we know...
PATRICK P MCBRIDE
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Dec 2, 2005
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... The only groups we have much information about (that I know of) are academics, reformers, and some politicians. We do know a few snippets, for example...
Bob Richard
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Dec 2, 2005
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Good discussion. Thanks, Bob for the great list of references below. I would have to add "Real Choices, New Voices" by Doug Amy as a great all-around text...
Rob Dickinson
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Dec 2, 2005
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... True. Though in the U.S., much of the apathy toward political parties is a result of *lax* party dicipline and *lax* policy. *I* would certainly rather...
David Joslyn
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I would argue that single member districts are not two party districts but one party districts (at times switching patries from time to time but usually one...
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Dec 3, 2005
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... Can you expand on this? ... I believe that ChoicePlus implements WIGM without transferring to candidates that have been elected. We use that for CfER...
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... by hand ... inadequately ... If ... Steve, this has been discussed recently and at length on the stv- voting list: Subscribe:...
James Gilmour
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*Upcoming Iraqi Parliamentary Elections to Use Historic Proportional Voting System* Reforms Should Increase Turnout, Minority Inclusion Iraq today began early...
David Moon
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Dec 12, 2005
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The Sunnis in Iraq fear the Shiite government. They will go to war if they're disenfranchised. Iraqi Proportional Representation, in theory, will produce a ...
Paul Klinkman
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Dec 15, 2005
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Why not simply require a supermajority vote.-- Patrick ... From: Paul Klinkman To: Voice4all@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:41 PM Subject:...
PATRICK P MCBRIDE
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Dec 16, 2005
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... Agreed. This is a supirior tactic for two reasons: 1. It requires no complex math on the part of the populous. 2. Even with the extra minority votes...
David Joslyn
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Dec 16, 2005
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Agreed, also, for the reasons David cites. The other alternative that's sometimes used is to give the minority a veto over certain classes of legislation of a...
Michael J. Lowrey
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Dec 16, 2005
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... One of the surest ways to make sure that the Party in Majority cannot bulldozer over the Parties in Minority is to require that for certain legislation ot...
David Joslyn
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Dec 16, 2005
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But, of course, the problem, once you get into systems like this, is that you start having to legally classify people according to which minority they belong...
Nathaniel Krause
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Spake *David Joslyn:* ... A good point, that. Some possibilities (YMMV): - Insofar as who gets to be a minority (queue Green Day), I'd say let the public...
David Joslyn
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Dec 17, 2005
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... determine their level of interest. If that's what you want it would be simplest to use STV-PR. Then any "group" that wants representation can put up a...
James Gilmour
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Dec 17, 2005
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... that you start having to legally classify people according to which minority they belong to, which invites all kinds of malfeasance and gamesmanship....
Paul Klinkman
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Dec 18, 2005
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Please respond if you get this e-mail. I just got a notice that I was no longer on the yahoo group so I re-joined it. Some of the following is repeated since...
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MessageI got it Barney! Tom Mull ... From: Barney.Rehm@... To: Voice4all@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 8:43 AM Subject: RE:...
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If you are on more than one of these lists, my apologies for the duplication. --Bob Richard ...
Bob Richard
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Dec 20, 2005
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Message>----- Original Message ----- ... It can hurt a lot. You may end up with the tyranny of the minority. This can be the elite minority. In LA County...
PATRICK P MCBRIDE
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Dec 21, 2005
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Message recieved. ~D. Joslyn...
David Joslyn
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Dec 21, 2005
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... Interesting. Would you care to expand on this thinking? Can we talk about alternatives to normal legislative bodies? Is this ... I don't see why not. The...
David Joslyn
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Dec 21, 2005
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Requiring a supermajority does not lead to a tyranny of the minority since the minority cannot enact legislation, it can only stop legislation. Sure, at first...
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Dec 21, 2005
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According to this scheme, I can get together with 10 of my friends and we can selfselect ourselves as the "disgruntled minority" and block any legislation we...
PATRICK P MCBRIDE
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Dec 21, 2005
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... From: David Joslyn To: Voice4all@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [Voice4all] Re: 1 person 2 votes It can hurt a...
PATRICK P MCBRIDE
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Dec 22, 2005
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A good test case is a country like Venezuela. The population is something like 90% indigenous or mixed-indigenous/European, but for centuries the pure-bred...
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The Voice4All list was established in 2001 by Dan Johnson-Weinberger as "the national discussion/organizing list for proportional voting systems in the United...
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Dec 23, 2005
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I strongly favor the merger. I would prefer that we convince the FairVote moderators to keep the Voice4All name rather than the ProportionalVoting name, but...
Bob Richard
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Dec 23, 2005
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I agree here. I think we should keep using a name like "Voice4All" or "Representation4All." Proportional doesn't do us a service. You can always put the word...
Chris Jerdonek
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