Hi Bill -- so I have been thinking about the German surname issue -- I found a
ship manifest of a man named Brazgel who I think is one of my relatives -- my
mom's dad's mom was going to stay with her aunt "Brazgil" according to her ship
manifest -- I am starting to wonder if it wasn't a German surname -- she was
from Vartele/Varteliai -- we actually went there last summer, swam in the lake,
saw the itsy bitsy village, etc. . . -- I am wondering if she was a Lithuanian
Prussian or something of the like -- due to the name and the location of her
village. In googling the name "Brazgel" I have found some indication that it's a
German name. I'd love to hear any thoughts of anyone in the group. Thanks! Amy

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> Hi there -- all of my Lithuanian relatives who came to the US from Lithuania
were VERY Catholic! My great grandfather went to church every day. Vizga was my
great grandmother's maiden name. Her mother's maiden name was something like
Brazgil or Braskel as far as I can figure out. Thans for your note!
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> My ancestors were Germans and came from the Graziski area.� The Vistytis and
Graziski areas were populated by many Germans and the German Lutheran church
records for Vistytis are available from the LDS.� I also visited the Catholic
Church in Graziski many years ago, but to my knowledge there were no records
available to search.� Do you know the religion of your g-grandmother?� Also, is
Vizga her maiden name or married name?
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> My great grandmother, Anna Vizga, was from "Wartele", near Graziski,
> according to her ship manifest. When my mom was a little girl, Anna
> Vizga told her that she was from a part of Lithuania near where people
> spoke German (must be East Prussia) and Polish. Anna came to the US in
> 1912. I am 98% sure that she is from Varteliai, near Lake Vistytis. I
> am struggling to find birth, marriage, death records relating to my
> Vizga relatives. I wrote to the Lithuanian State Historical Archives
> and they have nothing on my relatives. Can anyone in the group
> recommend where I might find records regarding my relatives from
> Varteliai? Should I try the Polish archives? Thanks! Amy
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According to Google translate the subject of the thread with photos is "Vistytis
and its environs" and it is part of a forum on "Cities and architecture".
Fred.

Those pictures are great.  Aciu Dekoju.
John
Just to think that my grandfather walked those street as a young boy, and he
left there over 100 years ago never to return.


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> I don't know what the subject of the thread is about but there are some
pictures of Vistytis at http://www.miestai.net/forumas/showthread.php?t=4805
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--- In Vistytis@yahoogroups.com, senior42742@... wrote:
> I love these photos of Vistytis.  I would like to save them on a disc.  Does
anyone know how I can do that? 
> Helen

I have forgotten how to do it with Windows, but on a Mac you drag the photos
with your mouse to your desktop and you can write a disc from there. If you are
not sure or able, I could download them for you and send them to you by email.

I trust you have also seen Howard Sandys' great site at
http://howard.sandys.ca/01.html

Fred.

My husband's family are from Vistytis. They were ethnic Germans who belonged to
the Evangelical Lutheran Church. I would appreciate any information.

My husbands family is from Vistytis. They were members of the Evangelical
Lutheran Church. They were ethnic Germans. Any information would be greatly
appreciated.

Does somebody know whether books from 1800's are stored in church in Vistytis? I
was looking for them in archives in Vilnius (Lithuania) and Suwalki (Poland),
but they do not have them.

No, they aren't. Archive in Warsaw has only 2 documents about credits for owners
of facilities in Vistytis (Wisztyniec). So if register / metrical books are not
in Polish archives, neither in Lithuanian ones, seems they are completely
lost...
From above documents you can learn names of habitants: Karol Miculewicz, owner
of salt's warehouse and Jankiel Zan, Wizanska str 24 (year 1844).



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> Hello,
> they are not stored in Vistytis, I always thought they are in archives  in
Warsaw...
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> Subject: [Vistytis] Registers books from roman-catholic church
> To: vistytis@yahoogroups.com
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Hard to believe they were sent to Moscow, but need to investigate that subject
:-)
PS. No, I do not have any family in NJ :-)

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> Hello, When we were in Suwalki, we checked with the Archives there and were
told that all records were sent to Moscow.  Peace  Mal SimonTo Pawel, Do you
have any relatives named Hans who lived in New Jersey.  He was a colleague of
mine at NJ Institute of Technology in NJ.
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> Subject: [Vistytis] Re: Registers books from roman-catholic church
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completely lost...
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of salt's warehouse and Jankiel Zan, Wizanska str 24 (year 1844).
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I apologise if I irritate anybody with my advertising, but I have started a
forum at www.kaminsky.nl for a general genealogy discussion on any and all
places and names. Feel free to join and start talking. We already get a lot of
hits on Google, but the discussion will take a while to get started.
Fred.

I have no dog in your fight, but I did peruse the listings.  I was sad and made
aware of the shame of 11 & 13 year old siblings losing their lives in terrible
ways during the Nazi era.  Thanks for the invite.
John

--- In Vistytis@yahoogroups.com, "fredleonk" <info@...> wrote:
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> I apologise if I irritate anybody with my advertising, but I have started a
forum at www.kaminsky.nl for a general genealogy discussion on any and all
places and names. Feel free to join and start talking. We already get a lot of
hits on Google, but the discussion will take a while to get started.
> Fred.
>

What does introduction to a South Korean company have to do with
genealogy? Please remove this spam from your list. I did not forward it
back as I knew it was likely to be something that could "ruin" my
computer. Sent by a David Langenberg.

I deleted it as soon as i saw it, a few minutes after it was posted.
I am not responsible for any spam that might be posted on the forum.
Fred.

--- In Vistytis@yahoogroups.com, Sandie <marana@...> wrote:
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> What does introduction to a South Korean company have to do with
> genealogy? Please remove this spam from your list. I did not forward it
> back as I knew it was likely to be something that could "ruin" my
> computer. Sent by a David Langenberg.
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Er, it PURPORTED to be from me.  I had nothing to do with sending it.

David Langenberg

--- In Vistytis@yahoogroups.com, mal simon <coach7157@...> wrote:
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> my sentiments exactly.  Mal Simon
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> --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Sandie <marana@...> wrote:
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> Subject: [Vistytis] Korean Group?
> To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com
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I am trying to find information in regards to my grandfather who immigrated from
Vistytis to America sometime around 1885 - 1887.  He came over by himself and
his last name was SCHUKOVSKY, Scherkovsky, Shacufsky or schacofsky.  It is
spelled something like this.  Those 4 spellings I got from his sister's marriage
license, and death certificate.
He went to live with his older sister (name unknown) in Kalamazoo, MI during the
above dates, but I cannot find any census information for 1890 for him.

His mother's name was Esther and I do not know his father's name.  His father
died sometime between 1876 - 1880 in a war in Poland.  My grandfather's first
name was Harry.  How would I go about trying to locate birth records for this
town for the year 1877?  His mother was an Orthodox Jew and he attended
Synagogue while living in Poland.

Any help would be much appreciated.  I saw your group on Google, but I cannot
figure out how to join.

Sincerely

Ilene Harris

I am trying to find information in regards to my grandfather who immigrated from Vistytis to America sometime around 1885 - 1887. He came over by himself and his last name was SCHUKOVSKY, Scherkovsky, Shacufsky or schacofsky. It is spelled something like this. Those 4 spellings I got from his sister's marriage license, and death certificate. He went to live with his older sister (name unknown) in Kalamazoo, MI during the above dates, but I cannot find any census information for 1890 for him. His mother's name was Esther and I do not know his father's name. His father died sometime between 1876 - 1880 in a war in Poland. My grandfather's first name was Harry. How would I go about trying to locate birth records for this town for the year 1877? His mother was an Orthodox Jew and he attended Synagogue while living in Poland.
Any help would be much appreciated. I saw your group on Google, but I cannot figure out how to join. Sincerely
Ilene Harris