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#183

From: mal simon <coach7157@...>
Date: Mon Jan 7, 2008 9:19 pm
Subject: locating family/history in Lithuania

Hello, My wife's maternal grandparents came from a small village near Vilnius. We think it may have been Wysztinec (Poland in those days) and now Vistytis in Lithuania. We are going to Poland and Lithuania in May to try to locate some history of the family and possibly any family members. Does anyone have advice as to how we can get some information before we go? Thanks. Mal Simon

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#184

From: "Greenvale" <greenvale@...>
Date: Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:49 pm
Subject: RE: locating family/history in Lithuania

Mal

Was you wife’s family native Lithuanian, German, or Jewish? Also, what is the surname you wish to research?

From: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Vistytis@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mal simon
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:19 PM
To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vistytis] locating family/history in Lithuania

Hello, My wife's maternal grandparents came from a small village near Vilnius. We think it may have been Wysztinec (Poland in those days) and now Vistytis in Lithuania. We are going to Poland and Lithuania in May to try to locate some history of the family and possibly any family members. Does anyone have advice as to how we can get some information before we go? Thanks. Mal Simon

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#185

From: berel goldfarb <berel18@...>
Date: Tue Jan 8, 2008 1:06 am
Subject: RE: locating family/history in Lithuania

Sorry it not my wife but my mother. Her maiden name was Olinski and they changed it to

Ellis Her mothers maiden anme was Levinson. They were Jewish

Thanks

Burt

Greenvale <greenvale@...> wrote:

Mal

Was you wife�s family native Lithuanian, German, or Jewish? Also, what is the surname you wish to research?

From: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Vistytis@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mal simon
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:19 PM
To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vistytis] locating family/history in Lithuania

Hello, My wife's maternal grandparents came from a small village near Vilnius. We think it may have been Wysztinec (Poland in those days) and now Vistytis in Lithuania. We are going to Poland and Lithuania in May to try to locate some history of the family and possibly any family members. Does anyone have advice as to how we can get some information before we go? Thanks. Mal Simon

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#186

From: berel goldfarb <berel18@...>
Date: Tue Jan 8, 2008 1:19 am
Subject: Re: locating family/history in Lithuania

IT MAY TO SIMPLE BUT RESEARCH LITVAK AND FOLLOW THE LEADS ALSO RESEARCH THE NAM EOF THE TOWN I AM PRETTY SURE I SAW IT WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR VILKAVISKIS

I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND FAMILY TOMBSTONES PICS OF THE TOWN

AND EVEN THE ADDRESS OF THE HOSUE MY FAMMILY LIVED IN

HOPE THIS IS USEFULL SOME HOW

bEREL

mal simon <coach7157@...> wrote:

Hello, My wife's maternal grandparents came from a small village near Vilnius. We think it may have been Wysztinec (Poland in those days) and now Vistytis in Lithuania. We are going to Poland and Lithuania in May to try to locate some history of the family and possibly any family members. Does anyone have advice as to how we can get some information before we go? Thanks. Mal Simon

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#187

From: "Larry and Ava Rich" <larryava@...>
Date: Tue Jan 8, 2008 2:55 am
Subject: Re: locating family/history in Lithuania

Good luck on your trip. My cousin went their, and his web page on the trip is http://howard.sandys.ca/01.html

I hope this helps you. My great grandparents were born there. They came to Canada around 1885.

Ava Rich

Pensacola

----- Original Message -----

From: mal simon

To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:19 PM

Subject: [Vistytis] locating family/history in Lithuania

Hello, My wife's maternal grandparents came from a small village near Vilnius. We think it may have been Wysztinec (Poland in those days) and now Vistytis in Lithuania. We are going to Poland and Lithuania in May to try to locate some history of the family and possibly any family members. Does anyone have advice as to how we can get some information before we go? Thanks. Mal Simon

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#188

From: ralph <salinger@...>
Date: Mon Jan 7, 2008 5:34 am
Subject: Re: locating family/history in Lithuania

topcat2_1999...

Dear Mr. Goldfarb,

If you are interested in Vilkaviskis please drop me a line - I may have some information

or you can see our site at http://www.lysurge.net/wayne_genealogy/public/vilk2007

Regards

Ralph Salinger

----- Original Message -----

From: berel goldfarb

To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:19 AM

Subject: Re: [Vistytis] locating family/history in Lithuania

IT MAY TO SIMPLE BUT RESEARCH LITVAK AND FOLLOW THE LEADS ALSO RESEARCH THE NAM EOF THE TOWN I AM PRETTY SURE I SAW IT WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR VILKAVISKIS

I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND FAMILY TOMBSTONES PICS OF THE TOWN

AND EVEN THE ADDRESS OF THE HOSUE MY FAMMILY LIVED IN

HOPE THIS IS USEFULL SOME HOW

bEREL

mal simon <coach7157@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello, My wife's maternal grandparents came from a small village near Vilnius. We think it may have been Wysztinec (Poland in those days) and now Vistytis in Lithuania. We are going to Poland and Lithuania in May to try to locate some history of the family and possibly any family members. Does anyone have advice as to how we can get some information before we go? Thanks. Mal Simon

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#189

From: Natalie Jones <natalie14468@...>
Date: Tue Jan 8, 2008 11:38 am
Subject: Re: locating family/history in Lithuania

My paternal grandfather came from the same town. Where did you find photos of the tombstones? I would be interested in finding any for the Krohn family.

Natalie

berel goldfarb <berel18@...> wrote:

IT MAY TO SIMPLE BUT RESEARCH LITVAK AND FOLLOW THE LEADS ALSO RESEARCH THE NAM EOF THE TOWN I AM PRETTY SURE I SAW IT WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR VILKAVISKIS

I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND FAMILY TOMBSTONES PICS OF THE TOWN

AND EVEN THE ADDRESS OF THE HOSUE MY FAMMILY LIVED IN

HOPE THIS IS USEFULL SOME HOW

bEREL

mal simon <coach7157@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello, My wife's maternal grandparents came from a small village near Vilnius. We think it may have been Wysztinec (Poland in those days) and now Vistytis in Lithuania. We are going to Poland and Lithuania in May to try to locate some history of the family and possibly any family members. Does anyone have advice as to how we can get some information before we go? Thanks. Mal Simon

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#190

From: ralph <salinger@...>
Date: Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:52 am
Subject: Vilkaviskis !

topcat2_1999...

Dear Natalie.,

Greetings from Kfar Ruppin, Israel,

The pictures at our site: http://www.lysurge.net/wayne_genealogy/public/vilk2007 where taken by Wayne and I

when we cleaned up the cemtery last year.

Thats almost all there are !

Regards

Ralph

----- Original Message -----

From: Natalie Jones

To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:38 PM

Subject: Re: [Vistytis] locating family/history in Lithuania

My paternal grandfather came from the same town. Where did you find photos of the tombstones? I would be interested in finding any for the Krohn family.

Natalie

berel goldfarb <berel18@yahoo.com> wrote:

IT MAY TO SIMPLE BUT RESEARCH LITVAK AND FOLLOW THE LEADS ALSO RESEARCH THE NAM EOF THE TOWN I AM PRETTY SURE I SAW IT WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR VILKAVISKIS

I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND FAMILY TOMBSTONES PICS OF THE TOWN

AND EVEN THE ADDRESS OF THE HOSUE MY FAMMILY LIVED IN

HOPE THIS IS USEFULL SOME HOW

bEREL

mal simon <coach7157@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello, My wife's maternal grandparents came from a small village near Vilnius. We think it may have been Wysztinec (Poland in those days) and now Vistytis in Lithuania. We are going to Poland and Lithuania in May to try to locate some history of the family and possibly any family members. Does anyone have advice as to how we can get some information before we go? Thanks. Mal Simon

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#191

From: berel goldfarb <berel18@...>
Date: Tue Jan 8, 2008 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: Vilkaviskis !

tHERE ISA PARTAIL REGISTRY OF NAMES I WILLTRY AND FIND IIT FOR U

ralph <salinger@...> wrote:

Dear Natalie.,

Greetings from Kfar Ruppin, Israel,

The pictures at our site: http://www.lysurge.net/wayne_genealogy/public/vilk2007 where taken by Wayne and I

when we cleaned up the cemtery last year.

Thats almost all there are !

Regards

Ralph

----- Original Message -----

From: Natalie Jones

To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:38 PM

Subject: Re: [Vistytis] locating family/history in Lithuania

My paternal grandfather came from the same town. Where did you find photos of the tombstones? I would be interested in finding any for the Krohn family.

Natalie

berel goldfarb <berel18@yahoo.com> wrote:

IT MAY TO SIMPLE BUT RESEARCH LITVAK AND FOLLOW THE LEADS ALSO RESEARCH THE NAM EOF THE TOWN I AM PRETTY SURE I SAW IT WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR VILKAVISKIS

I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND FAMILY TOMBSTONES PICS OF THE TOWN

AND EVEN THE ADDRESS OF THE HOSUE MY FAMMILY LIVED IN

HOPE THIS IS USEFULL SOME HOW

bEREL

mal simon <coach7157@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello, My wife's maternal grandparents came from a small village near Vilnius. We think it may have been Wysztinec (Poland in those days) and now Vistytis in Lithuania. We are going to Poland and Lithuania in May to try to locate some history of the family and possibly any family members. Does anyone have advice as to how we can get some information before we go? Thanks. Mal Simon

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#192

From: Natalie Jones <natalie14468@...>
Date: Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:45 pm
Subject: Re: Vilkaviskis !

Thank you! That would be appreciated. There is a Cohen gravestone photograph. Can someone tell me what it says? My great grandfather's wife's maiden name was Dora Cohen. I am also looking for the name Marwillsky.

Natalie

berel goldfarb <berel18@...> wrote:

tHERE ISA PARTAIL REGISTRY OF NAMES I WILLTRY AND FIND IIT FOR U

ralph <salinger@kfar-ruppin.org.il> wrote:

Dear Natalie.,

Greetings from Kfar Ruppin, Israel,

The pictures at our site: http://www.lysurge.net/wayne_genealogy/public/vilk2007 where taken by Wayne and I

when we cleaned up the cemtery last year.

Thats almost all there are !

Regards

Ralph

----- Original Message -----

From: Natalie Jones

To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:38 PM

Subject: Re: [Vistytis] locating family/history in Lithuania

My paternal grandfather came from the same town. Where did you find photos of the tombstones? I would be interested in finding any for the Krohn family.

Natalie

berel goldfarb <berel18@yahoo.com> wrote:

IT MAY TO SIMPLE BUT RESEARCH LITVAK AND FOLLOW THE LEADS ALSO RESEARCH THE NAM EOF THE TOWN I AM PRETTY SURE I SAW IT WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR VILKAVISKIS

I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND FAMILY TOMBSTONES PICS OF THE TOWN

AND EVEN THE ADDRESS OF THE HOSUE MY FAMMILY LIVED IN

HOPE THIS IS USEFULL SOME HOW

bEREL

mal simon <coach7157@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello, My wife's maternal grandparents came from a small village near Vilnius. We think it may have been Wysztinec (Poland in those days) and now Vistytis in Lithuania. We are going to Poland and Lithuania in May to try to locate some history of the family and possibly any family members. Does anyone have advice as to how we can get some information before we go? Thanks. Mal Simon

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#193

From: Natalie Jones <natalie14468@...>
Date: Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: Vilkaviskis !

Thanks Ralph! Unfortunately, I can't read Hebrew so I will need help deciphering the gravestones. There is one with the name Cohen. Can you tell me what it says? My great grandmother's maiden name was Dora Cohen.

Natalie

ralph <salinger@...> wrote:

Dear Natalie.,

Greetings from Kfar Ruppin, Israel,

The pictures at our site: http://www.lysurge.net/wayne_genealogy/public/vilk2007 where taken by Wayne and I

when we cleaned up the cemtery last year.

Thats almost all there are !

Regards

Ralph

----- Original Message -----

From: Natalie Jones

To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:38 PM

Subject: Re: [Vistytis] locating family/history in Lithuania

My paternal grandfather came from the same town. Where did you find photos of the tombstones? I would be interested in finding any for the Krohn family.

Natalie

berel goldfarb <berel18@yahoo.com> wrote:

IT MAY TO SIMPLE BUT RESEARCH LITVAK AND FOLLOW THE LEADS ALSO RESEARCH THE NAM EOF THE TOWN I AM PRETTY SURE I SAW IT WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR VILKAVISKIS

I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND FAMILY TOMBSTONES PICS OF THE TOWN

AND EVEN THE ADDRESS OF THE HOSUE MY FAMMILY LIVED IN

HOPE THIS IS USEFULL SOME HOW

bEREL

mal simon <coach7157@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello, My wife's maternal grandparents came from a small village near Vilnius. We think it may have been Wysztinec (Poland in those days) and now Vistytis in Lithuania. We are going to Poland and Lithuania in May to try to locate some history of the family and possibly any family members. Does anyone have advice as to how we can get some information before we go? Thanks. Mal Simon

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#194

From: ralph <salinger@...>
Date: Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: Vilkaviskis !

topcat2_1999...

Dear Natalie,

Trust you got all my material,

Regards

Ralph

----- Original Message -----

From: Natalie Jones

To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:55 PM

Subject: Re: [Vistytis] Vilkaviskis !

Thanks Ralph! Unfortunately, I can't read Hebrew so I will need help deciphering the gravestones. There is one with the name Cohen. Can you tell me what it says? My great grandmother's maiden name was Dora Cohen.

Natalie

ralph <salinger@kfar-ruppin.org.il> wrote:

Dear Natalie.,

Greetings from Kfar Ruppin, Israel,

The pictures at our site: http://www.lysurge.net/wayne_genealogy/public/vilk2007 where taken by Wayne and I

when we cleaned up the cemtery last year.

Thats almost all there are !

Regards

Ralph

----- Original Message -----

From: Natalie Jones

To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:38 PM

Subject: Re: [Vistytis] locating family/history in Lithuania

My paternal grandfather came from the same town. Where did you find photos of the tombstones? I would be interested in finding any for the Krohn family.

Natalie

berel goldfarb <berel18@yahoo.com> wrote:

IT MAY TO SIMPLE BUT RESEARCH LITVAK AND FOLLOW THE LEADS ALSO RESEARCH THE NAM EOF THE TOWN I AM PRETTY SURE I SAW IT WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR VILKAVISKIS

I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND FAMILY TOMBSTONES PICS OF THE TOWN

AND EVEN THE ADDRESS OF THE HOSUE MY FAMMILY LIVED IN

HOPE THIS IS USEFULL SOME HOW

bEREL

mal simon <coach7157@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello, My wife's maternal grandparents came from a small village near Vilnius. We think it may have been Wysztinec (Poland in those days) and now Vistytis in Lithuania. We are going to Poland and Lithuania in May to try to locate some history of the family and possibly any family members. Does anyone have advice as to how we can get some information before we go? Thanks. Mal Simon

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#195

From: Natalie Jones <natalie14468@...>
Date: Tue Jan 8, 2008 11:30 pm
Subject: Re: Vilkaviskis !

I don't think so.

ralph <salinger@...> wrote:

Dear Natalie,

Trust you got all my material,

Regards

Ralph

----- Original Message -----

From: Natalie Jones

To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:55 PM

Subject: Re: [Vistytis] Vilkaviskis !

Thanks Ralph! Unfortunately, I can't read Hebrew so I will need help deciphering the gravestones. There is one with the name Cohen. Can you tell me what it says? My great grandmother's maiden name was Dora Cohen.

Natalie

ralph <salinger@kfar-ruppin.org.il> wrote:

Dear Natalie.,

Greetings from Kfar Ruppin, Israel,

The pictures at our site: http://www.lysurge.net/wayne_genealogy/public/vilk2007 where taken by Wayne and I

when we cleaned up the cemtery last year.

Thats almost all there are !

Regards

Ralph

----- Original Message -----

From: Natalie Jones

To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:38 PM

Subject: Re: [Vistytis] locating family/history in Lithuania

My paternal grandfather came from the same town. Where did you find photos of the tombstones? I would be interested in finding any for the Krohn family.

Natalie

berel goldfarb <berel18@yahoo.com> wrote:

IT MAY TO SIMPLE BUT RESEARCH LITVAK AND FOLLOW THE LEADS ALSO RESEARCH THE NAM EOF THE TOWN I AM PRETTY SURE I SAW IT WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR VILKAVISKIS

I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND FAMILY TOMBSTONES PICS OF THE TOWN

AND EVEN THE ADDRESS OF THE HOSUE MY FAMMILY LIVED IN

HOPE THIS IS USEFULL SOME HOW

bEREL

mal simon <coach7157@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello, My wife's maternal grandparents came from a small village near Vilnius. We think it may have been Wysztinec (Poland in those days) and now Vistytis in Lithuania. We are going to Poland and Lithuania in May to try to locate some history of the family and possibly any family members. Does anyone have advice as to how we can get some information before we go? Thanks. Mal Simon

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#196

From: "mhvrealtor" <multi_media@...>
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:15 am
Subject: ? Ushkary, Ushnary, Vshkary, Brjansk. Name Fedoisczenko / Fedoreshenko

If I am on the wrong group please let me know and I will remove
myself from the group.

My grandparents came to the USA, 1912 on the SS Czar, they stated
they resided in Brjansk, Russia. They stated they were born in
Ushkary, Ushnary, or Vshkary. I can not make out the name on the
manifest. Does anyone here have any ideas about these names?

I understand that Brjansk was a city and also like a district. I am
trying to locate the family if any is left. The surname on the
manifest is spelled Fedoisczenko, later it was changed and spelled
Fedoreshenko. I understand this is a "Russian" name.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Nancy.

? Ushkary, Ushnary, Vshkary, Brjansk.  Name Fedoisczenko /
Fedoreshenko

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#197

From: mal simon <coach7157@...>
Date: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:58 pm
Subject: travel from Warsaw or Cracow to Vistytis

Hi, My wife and I will be in Poland in September. We will be traveling to Vistytis during our stay and wish to know the best way to get to Vistytis from either Warsaw or Cracow and also suggestions for places to stay in Vistytis. Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks. Mal Simon

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#198

From: "vilius kociubaitis" <kociubaitis@...>
Date: Tue May 6, 2008 5:17 pm
Subject: http://www.vistytis.com/

new adress

http://www.vistytis.com

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#199

From: "aburock" <aburock@...>
Date: Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:19 am
Subject: hi all -- new to the group

My great grandmother, Anna Vizga, was from "Wartele", near Graziski,
according to her ship manifest. When my mom was a little girl, Anna
Vizga told her that she was from a part of Lithuania near where people
spoke German (must be East Prussia) and Polish. Anna came to the US in
1912. I am 98% sure that she is from Varteliai, near Lake Vistytis. I
am struggling to find birth, marriage, death records relating to my
Vizga relatives. I wrote to the Lithuanian State Historical Archives
and they have nothing on my relatives. Can anyone in the group
recommend where I might find records regarding my relatives from
Varteliai? Should I try the Polish archives? Thanks! Amy

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#200

From: "E. J. Buteau" <ejbuteau45@...>
Date: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:15 pm
Subject: Re: hi all -- new to the group

When my mom was a little girl, Anna Vizga told her that she was from a
part of Lithuania near where people spoke German (must be East
Prussia) and Polish. Anna came to the US in 1912.
-----------------------------------
Amy,
Sorry I can't answer your search questions, but I've some comments on
your story.  My Grandfather Casimer Zlotorzynski came from Vi�tytis
(Vistytis), and my mother said her father told her that his mother
spoke German, and his father Polish.  I'm sure they also spoke
Lithuanian.  My grandfather told my mother he'd elude the border
guards in order to deliver notes from an older brother to a girl in
Prussia.  Your statement above helps me understand how my grandfather
spoke 6 languages, and how he was able to easily meet and marry a
Polish girl, my grandmother (who had a French surname!).
Good luck on your searches.
John

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#201

From: "Greenvale" <greenvale@...>
Date: Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:55 pm
Subject: RE: hi all -- new to the group

My ancestors were Germans and came from the Graziski area. The Vistytis and Graziski areas were populated by many Germans and the German Lutheran church records for Vistytis are available from the LDS. I also visited the Catholic Church in Graziski many years ago, but to my knowledge there were no records available to search. Do you know the religion of your g-grandmother? Also, is Vizga her maiden name or married name?

Bill

From: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Vistytis@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of aburock
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:19 PM
To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vistytis] hi all -- new to the group

My great grandmother, Anna Vizga, was from "Wartele", near Graziski,
according to her ship manifest. When my mom was a little girl, Anna
Vizga told her that she was from a part of Lithuania near where people
spoke German (must be East Prussia) and Polish. Anna came to the US in
1912. I am 98% sure that she is from Varteliai, near Lake Vistytis. I
am struggling to find birth, marriage, death records relating to my
Vizga relatives. I wrote to the Lithuanian State Historical Archives
and they have nothing on my relatives. Can anyone in the group
recommend where I might find records regarding my relatives from
Varteliai? Should I try the Polish archives? Thanks! Amy

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#202

From: Amy Elizabeth Burock <aburock@...>
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:46 am
Subject: Re: Re: hi all -- new to the group

funny you say that -- my mom said that her gram (Anna Vizga) told her that they would go shopping (to the market, I guess) in a place where people spoke German, Polish and Lithuanian. My mother mom said that Anna Vizga spoke some French too! Funny. I am not much of a historian, so I don't know where the French part comes in -- funny to hear that your gram had a French name! Thanks for your note. Amy

--- On Thu, 9/25/08, E. J. Buteau <ejbuteau45@...> wrote:

From: E. J. Buteau <ejbuteau45@...>
Subject: [Vistytis] Re: hi all -- new to the group
To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 10:15 AM

When my mom was a little girl, Anna Vizga told her that she was from a
part of Lithuania near where people spoke German (must be East
Prussia) and Polish. Anna came to the US in 1912.
------------ --------- --------- -----
Amy,
Sorry I can't answer your search questions, but I've some comments on
your story. My Grandfather Casimer Zlotorzynski came from Vi�tytis
(Vistytis), and my mother said her father told her that his mother
spoke German, and his father Polish. I'm sure they also spoke
Lithuanian. My grandfather told my mother he'd elude the border
guards in order to deliver notes from an older brother to a girl in
Prussia. Your statement above helps me understand how my grandfather
spoke 6 languages, and how he was able to easily meet and marry a
Polish girl, my grandmother (who had a French surname!).
Good luck on your searches.
John

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#203

From: Amy Elizabeth Burock <aburock@...>
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:48 am
Subject: RE: hi all -- new to the group

Hi there -- all of my Lithuanian relatives who came to the US from Lithuania were VERY Catholic! My great grandfather went to church every day. Vizga was my great grandmother's maiden name. Her mother's maiden name was something like Brazgil or Braskel as far as I can figure out. Thans for your note!

--- On Thu, 9/25/08, Greenvale <greenvale@...> wrote:

From: Greenvale <greenvale@...>
Subject: RE: [Vistytis] hi all -- new to the group
To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 6:55 PM

My ancestors were Germans and came from the Graziski area. The Vistytis and Graziski areas were populated by many Germans and the German Lutheran church records for Vistytis are available from the LDS. I also visited the Catholic Church in Graziski many years ago, but to my knowledge there were no records available to search. Do you know the religion of your g-grandmother? Also, is Vizga her maiden name or married name?

Bill

From: Vistytis@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:Vistytis@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of aburock
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:19 PM
To: Vistytis@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [Vistytis] hi all -- new to the group

My great grandmother, Anna Vizga, was from "Wartele", near Graziski,
according to her ship manifest. When my mom was a little girl, Anna
Vizga told her that she was from a part of Lithuania near where people
spoke German (must be East Prussia) and Polish. Anna came to the US in
1912. I am 98% sure that she is from Varteliai, near Lake Vistytis. I
am struggling to find birth, marriage, death records relating to my
Vizga relatives. I wrote to the Lithuanian State Historical Archives
and they have nothing on my relatives. Can anyone in the group
recommend where I might find records regarding my relatives from
Varteliai? Should I try the Polish archives? Thanks! Amy

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#204

From: Sandie <marana@...>
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:55 am
Subject: Re: Re: hi all -- new to the group

marana@...

My cousin was born in Kovno and came to America in the 1950's. I did not
meet or know of her until around five years ago.
She is a walking history book.
She speaks highly about the Salzburgers who were ethnic Protestant
Germans who left the Salzburg area around 1732 due to religious reasons.
One group went to East Prussia, one group to Holland and another group
to what is now Ebenezer, Georgia, USA.
She has been going through church records regarding these Salzburgers
who are our ancestors. Records from the same church are in German,
Lithuanian or Polish, depending on who was in power at the time. Some
records are also in Russian. She can read and speak German and is
actually a teacher of that language. I hired a Polish translater to
review those records. Another cousin, residing in Vilnius, knows
Lithuanian and a cousin here in Wisconsin knows Russian.
She told me the French came in during the era of Napoleon.
Names changed during all of this. My grandmother was a Heidrich. This
cousin is a Heidrich but because she was born in 1930's the name was
changed to the Lithuanian spelling of Geidrichis which is the Russian
spelling. There is not a H in the Russian alphabet. The addition of the
is or us is also Russian.
My grandfather's name was Saborowski or could end with a y, when he came
to America in 1903. After 25 years of searching for his real name, I
found out about it this year. It more than likely was Sebrov. In America
he became a Sabroff (v and f sounding the same). He was an ethnic
German, spoke and wrote German and always had German and Austrian meals.
After much searching and writing I was told that the name of Saborow
without the ski was the most recent spelling before the ski or sky was
added during the era of the Polish.
These churches are all located in the area of the Memeland, west and
South of Kovno, and west of Vilnius, particularly in Virbalen
(Virballis), Gumbinnen, Marijampole, etc.
We have located a few baptism records of some German Lutherans in the
Catholic church. Babies were baptized within a day or two a while back
and sometimes the only church in the area was a Catholic church, so the
infant was baptized there, still a Christian church.
Do a search using the Salzburgers and you will come up with many
websites about the history and with pictures.
I cannot state that I am 100 percent accurate on this but hope it will
also generate some discussion.
Other surnames we are searching in this area are Hoppe, Selmikat
(Selminkat), Klaus, Dietrich and more.
Sandie in Wisconsin USA

Amy Elizabeth Burock wrote:
>
> funny you say that -- my mom said that her gram (Anna Vizga) told her
> that they would go shopping (to the market, I guess) in a place where
> people spoke German, Polish and Lithuanian. My mother mom said that
> Anna Vizga spoke some French too! Funny. I am not much of a historian,
> so I don't know where the French part comes in -- funny to hear that
> your gram had a French name! Thanks for your note. Amy
>
> --- On *Thu, 9/25/08, E. J. Buteau /<ejbuteau45@...>/* wrote:
>
>     From: E. J. Buteau <ejbuteau45@...>
>     Subject: [Vistytis] Re: hi all -- new to the group
>     To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com
>     Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 10:15 AM
>
>     When my mom was a little girl, Anna Vizga told her that she was
>     from a
>     part of Lithuania near where people spoke German (must be East
>     Prussia) and Polish. Anna came to the US in 1912.
>     ------------ --------- --------- -----
>     Amy,
>     Sorry I can't answer your search questions, but I've some comments on
>     your story. My Grandfather Casimer Zlotorzynski came from Vi�tytis
>     (Vistytis), and my mother said her father told her that his mother
>     spoke German, and his father Polish. I'm sure they also spoke
>     Lithuanian. My grandfather told my mother he'd elude the border
>     guards in order to deliver notes from an older brother to a girl in
>     Prussia. Your statement above helps me understand how my grandfather
>     spoke 6 languages, and how he was able to easily meet and marry a
>     Polish girl, my grandmother (who had a French surname!).
>     Good luck on your searches.
>     John
>
>
>

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#205

From: Sandie <marana@...>
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:13 am
Subject: Re: Re: hi all -- new to the group

marana@...

An interesting website with some insight of the history of surnames in
the area and discussions, etc. that follow of numerous surnames. One
cannot post to this site anymore but it has been helpful for me.
http://www.geocities.com/cjzemaitis@sbcglobal.net/zemaitis2.htm

Sandie wrote:
> My cousin was born in Kovno and came to America in the 1950's. I did not
> meet or know of her until around five years ago.
> She is a walking history book.
> She speaks highly about the Salzburgers who were ethnic Protestant
> Germans who left the Salzburg area around 1732 due to religious reasons.
> One group went to East Prussia, one group to Holland and another group
> to what is now Ebenezer, Georgia, USA.
> She has been going through church records regarding these Salzburgers
> who are our ancestors. Records from the same church are in German,
> Lithuanian or Polish, depending on who was in power at the time. Some
> records are also in Russian. She can read and speak German and is
> actually a teacher of that language. I hired a Polish translater to
> review those records. Another cousin, residing in Vilnius, knows
> Lithuanian and a cousin here in Wisconsin knows Russian.
> She told me the French came in during the era of Napoleon.
> Names changed during all of this. My grandmother was a Heidrich. This
> cousin is a Heidrich but because she was born in 1930's the name was
> changed to the Lithuanian spelling of Geidrichis which is the Russian
> spelling. There is not a H in the Russian alphabet. The addition of the
> is or us is also Russian.
> My grandfather's name was Saborowski or could end with a y, when he came
> to America in 1903. After 25 years of searching for his real name, I
> found out about it this year. It more than likely was Sebrov. In America
> he became a Sabroff (v and f sounding the same). He was an ethnic
> German, spoke and wrote German and always had German and Austrian meals.
> After much searching and writing I was told that the name of Saborow
> without the ski was the most recent spelling before the ski or sky was
> added during the era of the Polish.
> These churches are all located in the area of the Memeland, west and
> South of Kovno, and west of Vilnius, particularly in Virbalen
> (Virballis), Gumbinnen, Marijampole, etc.
> We have located a few baptism records of some German Lutherans in the
> Catholic church. Babies were baptized within a day or two a while back
> and sometimes the only church in the area was a Catholic church, so the
> infant was baptized there, still a Christian church.
> Do a search using the Salzburgers and you will come up with many
> websites about the history and with pictures.
> I cannot state that I am 100 percent accurate on this but hope it will
> also generate some discussion.
> Other surnames we are searching in this area are Hoppe, Selmikat
> (Selminkat), Klaus, Dietrich and more.
> Sandie in Wisconsin USA
>
> Amy Elizabeth Burock wrote:
>
>> funny you say that -- my mom said that her gram (Anna Vizga) told her
>> that they would go shopping (to the market, I guess) in a place where
>> people spoke German, Polish and Lithuanian. My mother mom said that
>> Anna Vizga spoke some French too! Funny. I am not much of a historian,
>> so I don't know where the French part comes in -- funny to hear that
>> your gram had a French name! Thanks for your note. Amy
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 9/25/08, E. J. Buteau /<ejbuteau45@...>/* wrote:
>>
>>     From: E. J. Buteau <ejbuteau45@...>
>>     Subject: [Vistytis] Re: hi all -- new to the group
>>     To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com
>>     Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 10:15 AM
>>
>>     When my mom was a little girl, Anna Vizga told her that she was
>>     from a
>>     part of Lithuania near where people spoke German (must be East
>>     Prussia) and Polish. Anna came to the US in 1912.
>>     ------------ --------- --------- -----
>>     Amy,
>>     Sorry I can't answer your search questions, but I've some comments on
>>     your story. My Grandfather Casimer Zlotorzynski came from Vi�tytis
>>     (Vistytis), and my mother said her father told her that his mother
>>     spoke German, and his father Polish. I'm sure they also spoke
>>     Lithuanian. My grandfather told my mother he'd elude the border
>>     guards in order to deliver notes from an older brother to a girl in
>>     Prussia. Your statement above helps me understand how my grandfather
>>     spoke 6 languages, and how he was able to easily meet and marry a
>>     Polish girl, my grandmother (who had a French surname!).
>>     Good luck on your searches.
>>     John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

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#206

From: Amy Elizabeth Burock <aburock@...>
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:09 pm
Subject: Re: Re: hi all -- new to the group

Wow! It sounds like your genealogy research quest has been going on for some time! I am completely obsessed with my research too. Thanks so much for sharing the info. I will check out the link. I intend to hire a researcher to look into my Vizga family history. I'll keep this group posted on what I learn.

--- On Thu, 9/25/08, Sandie <marana@...> wrote:

From: Sandie <marana@...>
Subject: Re: [Vistytis] Re: hi all -- new to the group
To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 11:13 PM

An interesting website with some insight of the history of surnames in the area and discussions, etc. that follow of numerous surnames. One cannot post to this site anymore but it has been helpful for me.
http://www.geocities.com/cjzemaitis@.../zemaitis2.htm
Sandie wrote:
> My cousin was born in Kovno and came to America in the 1950's. I did
not > meet or know of her until around five years ago.
> She is a walking history book.
> She speaks highly about the Salzburgers who were ethnic Protestant > Germans who left the Salzburg area around 1732 due to religious reasons.
> One group went to East Prussia, one group to Holland and another group > to what is now Ebenezer, Georgia, USA.
> She has been going through church records regarding these Salzburgers > who are our ancestors. Records from the same church are in German, > Lithuanian or Polish, depending on who was in power at the time. Some > records are also in Russian. She can read and speak German and is > actually a teacher of that language. I hired a Polish translater to > review those records. Another cousin, residing in Vilnius, knows > Lithuanian and a cousin here in Wisconsin knows Russian.
> She told me the French came in during the era of Napoleon.
> Names changed during all of this. My grandmother was a Heidrich. This > cousin is a Heidrich but because she was born in 1930's the name was > changed to the Lithuanian spelling of Geidrichis which is the Russian > spelling. There is not a H in the Russian alphabet. The addition of the > is or us is also Russian.
> My grandfather's name was Saborowski or could end with a y, when he
came > to America in 1903. After 25 years of searching for his real name, I > found out about it this year. It more than likely was Sebrov. In America > he became a Sabroff (v and f sounding the same). He was an ethnic > German, spoke and wrote German and always had German and Austrian meals. > After much searching and writing I was told that the name of Saborow > without the ski was the most recent spelling before the ski or sky was > added during the era of the Polish.
> These churches are all located in the area of the Memeland, west and > South of Kovno, and west of Vilnius, particularly in Virbalen > (Virballis), Gumbinnen, Marijampole, etc.
> We have located a few baptism records of some German Lutherans in the > Catholic church. Babies were baptized within a day or two a while back > and sometimes the only church in the area was a Catholic church, so the > infant was baptized there, still a Christian church.
> Do a search using the Salzburgers and you will come up with many > websites about the history and with pictures.
> I cannot state that I am 100 percent accurate on this but hope it will > also generate some discussion.
> Other surnames we are searching in this area are Hoppe, Selmikat > (Selminkat), Klaus, Dietrich and more.
> Sandie in Wisconsin USA
>
> Amy Elizabeth Burock wrote:
> >> funny you say that -- my mom said that her gram (Anna Vizga) told her >> that they would go shopping (to the market, I guess) in a place where >> people spoke German, Polish and Lithuanian. My mother mom said that >> Anna Vizga spoke some French too! Funny. I am not much of a historian,
>> so I don't know where the French part comes in -- funny to hear
that >> your gram had a French name! Thanks for your note. Amy
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 9/25/08, E. J. Buteau /<ejbuteau45@...>/*
wrote:
>>
>> From: E. J. Buteau <ejbuteau45@...>
>> Subject: [Vistytis] Re: hi all -- new to the group
>> To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 10:15 AM
>>
>> When my mom was a little girl, Anna Vizga told her that she was
>> from a
>> part of Lithuania near where people spoke German (must be East
>> Prussia) and Polish. Anna came to the US in 1912.
>> ------------ --------- --------- -----
>> Amy,
>> Sorry I can't answer your search questions, but I've some
comments on
>> your story. My Grandfather Casimer Zlotorzynski came from
Vi�tytis
>> (Vistytis), and my mother said her father told her that his mother
>> spoke German, and his father Polish. I'm sure they also spoke
>> Lithuanian. My grandfather told my mother he'd elude the
border
>> guards in order to deliver notes from an older brother to a girl
in
>> Prussia. Your statement above helps me understand how my
grandfather
>> spoke 6 languages, and how he was able to easily meet and marry a
>> Polish girl, my grandmother (who had a French surname!).
>> Good luck on your searches.
>> John
>>
>>
>> >> >
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>
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#207

From: "Bernard Cedar" <jakes-grandpa@...>
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:07 pm
Subject: Re:hi all -- new to the group

Hello Group:

As many of you know, there seems to be very little info available for the border area of Lithuania prior to WWII. Much of what was there probably was destroyed due to the heavy fighting that took place in the area during WWII. The Family History Center lists some info from church records. There might be some records in the Vilna archives and in Polish archives in Warsaw and/ or Suwalki, since from the 1860's to the end of WWI the area which included Vistytis was in the Suwalk Gubernia, but I think that the pickings are slim compared with other parts of Lithuania.

Bernie

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#208

From: intrigues02@...
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: Re: hi all -- new to the group

In a message dated 9/26/2008 2:14:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, marana@... writes:

http://www.geocities.com/cjzemaitis@.../zemaitis2.htm

thank you for the site. john betuea is my cousin we get together a few times a year.

thanks again mark golden

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#209

From: DANIEL EDEL <edelless@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2008 2:31 pm
Subject: SEARCHING MY FAMILY

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen:

My family comes from Vistytis, surnames Wartelski , Belka and Sandelowski, my family moved to Konigsberg, I am interesting to know all about my family, Can somebody help me to know how I can search born certificates in Vistytis?. Or somebody has any informtion about my family?

I will be thankful for all informations you can provide me.

Grateful

Daniel Edel

edelless@...

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#210

From: "Greenvale" <greenvale@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2008 4:47 pm
Subject: RE: SEARCHING MY FAMILY

Daniel

Your surnames sound Polish. Do you know if your family was Catholic, Lutheran, or Jewish? If they were Lutheran, then there are Lutheran Church records available for Vistytis and can be obtained from the LDS.

Bill

From: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Vistytis@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of DANIEL EDEL
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:32 AM
To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vistytis] SEARCHING MY FAMILY

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen:

My family comes from Vistytis, surnames Wartelski , Belka and Sandelowski, my family moved to Konigsberg, I am interesting to know all about my family, Can somebody help me to know how I can search born certificates in Vistytis?. Or somebody has any informtion about my family?

I will be thankful for all informations you can provide me.

Grateful

Daniel Edel

edelless@...

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#211

From: "David L. Langenberg" <gallienus@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2008 7:24 pm
Subject: Re: SEARCHING MY FAMILY

Dear Daniel,

Two of these names are known to me--the Wartelskis and the Sandelowskis were Jewish families, some of whom settled in the United States and in early years (1870s) were in Peoria, Illinois, where other families from Vistytis (Vishtinetz) had settled. Some of the Wartelskis moved on to Texas. The Belka name is unfamiliar to me.

I have been very interested in collecting information about families from Vistytis. Here are my notes on the Wartelskis and the Sandelowskis:

WARTELSKI

The surname derives from Vartele, a small village south of Vishtinetz. Menahem b. Avraham Varteski, of �Wistiten,� died in 1814 in Schreitlauken and was buried in K�nigsberg (Birnbaum, p. 28).

Joseph Wartelsky (1862-1939) married Rebecca Sandelosky and was at Terrell, Texas, in 1900; they are buried in Temple Emanu-El Cemetery, Dallas. Also at Terrell were several individuals named Brin (see above). The family of Samuel Wartelsky (b. 1858) is listed at Ellis, Texas in 1900; he immigrated in 1864.

Barney Wartelska (b. ab. 1843), a dry goods pedlar, was living in Peoria, Illinois, in 1870. He is probably the same as Bernard (Barney) Wartelsky, who had a dry goods store on S. Halsted in Chicago, with his son Moses Wartelsky, 1887- and later with his son Hyman J. Wartelsky, 1904- .

Tanchum (b. Hayyim Tsevi) Wartelsky (d. 1920) and Israel (b. Hayyim Tsevi) Wartels (d. 1924) are buried in the Anshe Suvalk section, Washington Cemetery, Brooklyn.

SANDALOWSKY/SANDELOFSKI/SANDELOWITZ

Iser b. Yacakov Sandalowsky (d. 1852), of �Wistitten,� was buried in K�nigsberg (Birnbaum, p. 3). A large number of persons named Sandelowski are listed in the Verzeichnis der wahlberechtigten Mitglieder der K�nigsberger Synagogengemeinde (K�nigsberg, 1927).

Simon and Solomon Sandalowffsky and Elias Warwilsky (see below) were early immigrants to Utica, N. Y. Simon Sandaloffsky was elected a trustee of Congregation Adas Jeshurun, Utica, on 17 August 1863 (Kohn, Utica, p. 15). Simon Sandaloffsky is listed in Utica city directories (peddler, 1865-1868, 1871); Solomon Sandaloffsky appears as well (peddler, 1865-1868, 1871); as does Zara Sandaloffsky (peddler, 1866-1868, 1871) (Kohn, Utica, p. 166).

Hulda Sandelofski, born in Vishtinetz in 1866, Hulda Demant n�e Sandelowitz, born in Vishtinetz in 1853, and Jankel Sandelowski, born in Vishtinetz in 1862, were living in a village near the East Prussian border in 1885. (Private State Archive [Berlin] XX HA, Rep. 12, Titel 3, Nr. 19, Band 1-12)

Yacakov Dov Sandalowsky was a subscriber to Karne Tsevi.

The household of Benjamin Sandalosky was enumerated in Ward 1, Tyler, Texas in 1900. It consisted of Benjamin Sandalosky, head, aged 61, born May 1839, married at age 40, born in Poland (Russia), immigrated in 1869, bartender; Rachael Sandalosky, wife, aged 55, born March 1845, married at age 40 [sic], mother of 9 children, 9 living, born in Poland (Russia), immigrated in 1870; Belle Sandalosky, daughter, aged 21, born February 1879, born in Poland (Russia); Dora Sandalosky, daughter, aged 19, born March 1881, born in Illinois; Edna Sandalosky, daughter, aged 16, born January 1884, born in Illinois; and Harry Sandalosky, son, aged 24, born December 1875, born in Illinois, salesman. Ben J. Sandolosky, born 6 December 1839, died 16 January 1919, and Hannah Rachel Sandolosky, wife of B. Sandalosky, born 11 December 1842, died 3 July 1910, are buried in the Jewish section, Oakwood Cemetery, Tyler, Texas.

The household of A. Sandaloski was enumerated at 522 West Elm Street, Tyler, Texas in 1900. It consisted of A. Sandaloski, head, aged 53, born September 1846, married at age 25, born in Poland (Russ.), immigrated in 1863, agent, brewery; Hattie Sandaloski, wife, aged 42, born April 1858, married at age 25, mother of 5 children, 5 living, born in Poland (Russ.), immigrated 1872; Ellie Sandaloski, daughter,aged 21, born June 1879, born in Arkansas, school teacher; Hyman Sandaloski, son, aged 18, born November 1881, born in Arkansas, in school; Idella Sandaloski, daughter, aged 16, born March 1884, born in Texas, in school; Ray Sandaloski, daughter, aged 11, born May 1889, born in Texas; and Leo Sandaloski, son, aged 9, born October 1890, born in Texas. Abe Sandoloski, born 4 October 1846, died 19 August 1919, and Hattie Sandoloski, born 30 September 1854, died 6 January 1935, are buried in the Jewish section, Oakwood Cemetery, Tyler, Texas.

These families were possibly from Vishtinetz; there are clues that other individuals in Tyler at this time were associated with Vishtinetz.

I would be quite interested in knowing how you fit into these families, as well as how you know that the Belka family is also from Vistytis.

David Langenberg

Newark, DE

On Nov 2, 2008, at 9:31 AM, DANIEL EDEL wrote:

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen:
My family comes from Vistytis, surnames Wartelski , Belka and Sandelowski, my family moved to Konigsberg, I am interesting to know all about my family, Can somebody help me to know how I can search born certificates in Vistytis?. Or somebody has any informtion about my family?
I will be thankful for all informations you can provide me.
Grateful
Daniel Edel
edelless@yahoo.com

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From: Amy Elizabeth Burock <aburock@...>
Date: Mon Nov 3, 2008 1:29 am
Subject: Vartele -- Varteliai

My great grandma came from this village -- Her name was Anna Vizga. Her father was Matthew Vizga. She sailed to Baltimore in 1912 and settled in Saint Clair, Pennsylvania.

--- On Sun, 11/2/08, David L. Langenberg <gallienus@...> wrote:

From: David L. Langenberg <gallienus@...>
Subject: Re: [Vistytis] SEARCHING MY FAMILY
To: Vistytis@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 2:24 PM

Dear Daniel,

Two of these names are known to me--the Wartelskis and the Sandelowskis were Jewish families, some of whom settled in the United States and in early years (1870s) were in Peoria, Illinois, where other families from Vistytis (Vishtinetz) had settled. Some of the Wartelskis moved on to Texas. The Belka name is unfamiliar to me.

I have been very interested in collecting information about families from Vistytis. Here are my notes on the Wartelskis and the Sandelowskis:

WARTELSKI

The surname derives from Vartele, a small village south of Vishtinetz. Menahem b. Avraham Varteski, of �Wistiten,� died in 1814 in Schreitlauken and was buried in K�nigsberg (Birnbaum, p. 28).

Joseph Wartelsky (1862-1939) married Rebecca Sandelosky and was at Terrell, Texas, in 1900; they are buried in Temple Emanu-El Cemetery, Dallas. Also at Terrell were several individuals named Brin (see above). The family of Samuel Wartelsky (b. 1858) is listed at Ellis, Texas in 1900; he immigrated in 1864.

Barney Wartelska (b. ab. 1843), a dry goods pedlar, was living in Peoria, Illinois, in 1870. He is probably the same as Bernard (Barney) Wartelsky, who had a dry goods store on S. Halsted in Chicago, with his son Moses Wartelsky, 1887- and later with his son Hyman J. Wartelsky, 1904- .

Tanchum (b. Hayyim Tsevi) Wartelsky (d. 1920) and Israel (b. Hayyim Tsevi) Wartels (d. 1924) are buried in the Anshe Suvalk section, Washington Cemetery, Brooklyn.

SANDALOWSKY/ SANDELOFSKI/ SANDELOWITZ

Iser b. Yacakov Sandalowsky (d. 1852), of �Wistitten,� was buried in K�nigsberg (Birnbaum, p. 3). A large number of persons named Sandelowski are listed in the Verzeichnis der wahlberechtigten Mitglieder der K�nigsberger Synagogengemeinde (K�nigsberg, 1927).

Simon and Solomon Sandalowffsky and Elias Warwilsky (see below) were early immigrants to Utica, N. Y. Simon Sandaloffsky was elected a trustee of Congregation Adas Jeshurun, Utica, on 17 August 1863 (Kohn, Utica, p. 15). Simon Sandaloffsky is listed in Utica city directories (peddler, 1865-1868, 1871); Solomon Sandaloffsky appears as well (peddler, 1865-1868, 1871); as does Zara Sandaloffsky (peddler, 1866-1868, 1871) (Kohn, Utica, p. 166).

Hulda Sandelofski, born in Vishtinetz in 1866, Hulda Demant n�e Sandelowitz, born in Vishtinetz in 1853, and Jankel Sandelowski, born in Vishtinetz in 1862, were living in a village near the East Prussian border in 1885. (Private State Archive [Berlin] XX HA, Rep. 12, Titel 3, Nr. 19, Band 1-12)

Yacakov Dov Sandalowsky was a subscriber to Karne Tsevi.

The household of Benjamin Sandalosky was enumerated in Ward 1, Tyler, Texas in 1900. It consisted of Benjamin Sandalosky, head, aged 61, born May 1839, married at age 40, born in Poland (Russia), immigrated in 1869, bartender; Rachael Sandalosky, wife, aged 55, born March 1845, married at age 40 [sic], mother of 9 children, 9 living, born in Poland (Russia), immigrated in 1870; Belle Sandalosky, daughter, aged 21, born February 1879, born in Poland (Russia); Dora Sandalosky, daughter, aged 19, born March 1881, born in Illinois; Edna Sandalosky, daughter, aged 16, born January 1884, born in Illinois; and Harry Sandalosky, son, aged 24, born December 1875, born in Illinois, salesman. Ben J. Sandolosky, born 6 December 1839, died 16 January 1919, and Hannah Rachel Sandolosky, wife of B. Sandalosky, born 11 December 1842, died 3 July 1910, are buried in the Jewish section, Oakwood Cemetery, Tyler, Texas.

The household of A. Sandaloski was enumerated at 522 West Elm Street, Tyler, Texas in 1900. It consisted of A. Sandaloski, head, aged 53, born September 1846, married at age 25, born in Poland (Russ.), immigrated in 1863, agent, brewery; Hattie Sandaloski, wife, aged 42, born April 1858, married at age 25, mother of 5 children, 5 living, born in Poland (Russ.), immigrated 1872; Ellie Sandaloski, daughter,aged 21, born June 1879, born in Arkansas, school teacher; Hyman Sandaloski, son, aged 18, born November 1881, born in Arkansas, in school; Idella Sandaloski, daughter, aged 16, born March 1884, born in Texas, in school; Ray Sandaloski, daughter, aged 11, born May 1889, born in Texas; and Leo Sandaloski, son, aged 9, born October 1890, born in Texas. Abe Sandoloski, born 4 October 1846, died 19 August 1919, and Hattie Sandoloski, born 30 September 1854, died 6 January 1935, are buried in the Jewish section, Oakwood Cemetery, Tyler, Texas.

These families were possibly from Vishtinetz; there are clues that other individuals in Tyler at this time were associated with Vishtinetz.

I would be quite interested in knowing how you fit into these families, as well as how you know that the Belka family is also from Vistytis.

David Langenberg

Newark, DE

On Nov 2, 2008, at 9:31 AM, DANIEL EDEL wrote:

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen:

My family comes from Vistytis, surnames Wartelski , Belka and Sandelowski, my family moved to Konigsberg, I am interesting to know all about my family, Can somebody help me to know how I can search born certificates in Vistytis?. Or somebody has any informtion about my family?

I will be thankful for all informations you can provide me.

Grateful

Daniel Edel

edelless@yahoo. com

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