To the group. There has been for the last week or so, a theme concerning provenancing of coins and other artifacts in collections. I shall let that slide with...
I figured I would throw in my two cents. First, I am an ancient coin dealer and I am also a collector. There are several challenges that are faced when it...
Almost forgot one of the sticking points that really bugs me... Who has the right to dictate who's cultural heritage is being dealt with and who has the right...
This post, for me, sums it all up beautifully. It cuts through all the dense and pretentious on and on and on by Barford. In my opinion, this guy is ...
My apologies for one of my posts that criticized Dr. Barford. I really don't think it amounted to much, and did not reach the level of ad hominem. I do...
This post gets dangerously near to the limits of list decorum. ... of hubris. Say what you like (within reasonable limits) about his ideas, but draw a ...
Hello all- hoping you are having a decent start to the week. Being a complete beginner in the coin collecting I am wondering what is meant by proper...
... archaeologists the ultimate authority? This is a very pertinent question. I believe that an archaeologist such as Dr. Barford would be likely to answer...
Thinking some more I came up with another question- what happens to all those undocumented coins if a system of provenance becomes the standard for marketable...
A very good question. If all presently undocumented coins (licitly acquired according to then prevailing law) should become unmarketable, that would amount to...
Dr Barford, Your opinion that collectors would not keep provenance documentation with their items is counterintuitive. I expect it is based on a stereotypical...
Kenneth, Your enthusiasm for the concept of maintaining provenance is understandable, however I believe that collectors and dealers must reserve judgment on ...
What they omit also, apart from the open trade of the same items INSIDE China, is that Hong Kong markets are diminishing as Chinese internal artefact markets...
To the group, Because an "antiquity" is dirt-encrusted and looks old does not make it so. There are apparently no laws in China that forbid the selling of...
Let's just say that I am quite savvy about the scale of fakes in China and the export of the same. The items I saw in China were real items. I would not even...
... From: Dave Welsh To: Unidroit-L@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 2:58 AM Subject: RE: [Unidroit-L] Why coins matter Kenneth, Your enthusiasm...
... It seems to me you cannot please all of the people all of the time. If I write briefly in short sentences I get castigated by the list owner for writing...
It seems to me there is a fundamental misunderstanding with something which (given the declared aims of this discussion) I had assumed that we would all be...
MessageProvenance and those "low value coins"... A suggestion has been made that the provenance of low value coins is not worth recording as its "too much...
... Hmm. Let me be clear, I know some artefact collectors who do not erode the archaeological record without replacing the information lost by information ...
... Yes, the scale of erosion of the archaeological record to date to keep up the supply even to the 50 000 collectors of one country alone is enormous, which...
... Well, if that is referring to my answer to the point Vos Earl made, I think you misread it. ... Is this sweeping characterization of "what institutions do...
Dear Dr. Barford, You have posted many messages to Unidroit-L at once, and it will be some time before I can review them for possible reply. All have meanwhile...
... I really do not think this is a fruitful line of reasoning. I suspect something like this would have been on the first page of a 1990 "Taliban manual of...
Dr. Barford, You forget that I was once an archaeologist and have experienced many things which have soured me to the current state of affairs within the...
Dr. Barford, Your massive quantity of postings reminds me of the protesters that bring an airhorn to a discussion to interrupt the proceedings, because they...
I completely agree, John, and your post was very articulate and to the point. I was struck, among other things Dr. Barford has said, by his observation in...
... My apologies that I could not reply individually over the period when they were posted. I had two substantial texts to proof-read one after the other which...
... Hmmmm. There really does seem to be a pattern emerging here. Again what I actually WROTE was somewhat different from Kim Cupples' inflamatory attempt to...
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