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#1225 From: "Tom McDaniel" <granoguecross@...>
Date: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:11 am
Subject: USAC Race evaluations of UCI and NRC races 		granoguecross
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USAC Race evaluations of UCI and NRC races.

 

Note: I don’t know how this can or should be adjusted to work in areas that use ACA and ORBRA.  To restate as a question how does a ACA or ORBRA race become a NRC / UCI race.

 

I have some issues with the way races were evaluated this past season. I’ve discussed the issues with USAC and some other UCI promoters. At this time I don’t have a race report for the 2 Granogue races so some of the below suggestions may have already been addressed. 

 

From my discussions with other promoters, race officials, USAC staff, racers and sponsors:

 

Closed scoring can lead to Q's about how/why event X was better then event Y ; whereas open scoring allows promoters to identify top performing events and areas of improvement. If "advancing the sport" is the primary objective of USAC then a formal and structured review process should be installed. 

 

Our UCI reports vary from year to year based more on who is doing the report and less on what changes we made year to year.

 

More than one official has mentioned there seems to be no improvement from year to year on issues they write up.  The feeling being that no one pays any attention to the reports.

 

Race X gets special treatment they did such and such wrong and…. (this can go on for some time)  and we Y did such and such better …(again this goes on for a long time) : The result being that without some documentation Y will never shut up about their mistreatment and how USAC is not treating them fairly etc.  Most race directors that have talked to over the years including my self have been both X and Y at various times over the years.

 

Our 2011 race evaluation score cards are not available 5 months past our events.

 

Some of the below ideals were stolen from USAT and ACA

 

If you have comments, changes or suggested improvements then please include how they are to be implemented and by what date.

 

1.     The USAC present to all NCR and UCI race directors  a copy of the form that USAC is using for the 2012 season  by the end of May 2012 (or some other date no later then end of July) so we can see what we are being graded on and do the long range planning necessary to meet race evaluation requirements.   The form should have enough questions to capture the quality of the race be backed up with a photo to document complaince and each question should have a numerical score. The score of the race should be posted on USAC website.  A photo to back should make any disputes over a races grade easily resolvable.  Races would have to make available to USAC staff a way of presenting or printing the photos on site.

2.     If the UCI allows it USAC will make available the blank forms that UCI is using each year so we can see what they are looking for each year.  Irgardless of if we can see the form, Photo back up of compliance should be mandotory.

3.     All USAC races should have their USAC race evaluations presented at the end of each race day with the other forms that cover insurance payment and rider numbers, with  space as necessary for the race director to add their own comments as necessary and/or the race director should fill in his own copy of the form and present it with the officials report. 

4.     USAC to review the race reports with the race director and  the race graded and the results posted within 10 days of the event.  Within 5 days if there is no substantial disagreement on how the race was scored.

5.     USAC to define who receives the report at USAC and how disputes are to be resolved.

6.     USAC to provide weekly updates during the season to officials and race directors on what areas the races are scoring high on and what they are scoring low on.

7.     USAC to define how our race evaluations are to used to upgrade/downgrade from NRC/Cat2/Cat1

 

 

Please add comments and suggestions and if you vote up or down on this as a whole or by number before the end of day today to help in the discussion in Colorado on Saturday. 

 

Thanks to everybody who helped out on this.

 

Tom McDaniel

Race Director

Granogue Cross

 

302 420 2165

 

 

 


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#1226 From: Myles Romanow <ilovetoracecross@...>
Date: Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:51 pm
Subject: Re: USAC Race evaluations of UCI and NRC races 		bikeguy11968
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All.  I am in agreement with McDaniel on this one.  For several years we have all known we were being "graded" but as to on what, has been somewhat of a mystery.  Now with the NRC calendar UCI calendar and regular race calendar, I think he is completely correct in that we should have some knowledge of what we are being graded on and how.  

While I'm certain that many people will merely suggest that I/we consult the almighty UCI guidelines, they have been at times, somewhat vague and/or subjective, and clarification from the UCI on points can be less than expedient or forthcoming.   A guide from USAC (who does have jurisdiction over the races on NRC calendar) would be very helpful. 

Myles Romanow


On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Tom McDaniel <granoguecross@...> wrote:
 

USAC Race evaluations of UCI and NRC races.

 

Note: I don’t know how this can or should be adjusted to work in areas that use ACA and ORBRA.  To restate as a question how does a ACA or ORBRA race become a NRC / UCI race.

 

I have some issues with the way races were evaluated this past season. I’ve discussed the issues with USAC and some other UCI promoters. At this time I don’t have a race report for the 2 Granogue races so some of the below suggestions may have already been addressed. 

 

From my discussions with other promoters, race officials, USAC staff, racers and sponsors:

 

Closed scoring can lead to Q's about how/why event X was better then event Y ; whereas open scoring allows promoters to identify top performing events and areas of improvement. If "advancing the sport" is the primary objective of USAC then a formal and structured review process should be installed. 

 

Our UCI reports vary from year to year based more on who is doing the report and less on what changes we made year to year.

 

More than one official has mentioned there seems to be no improvement from year to year on issues they write up.  The feeling being that no one pays any attention to the reports.

 

Race X gets special treatment they did such and such wrong and…. (this can go on for some time)  and we Y did such and such better …(again this goes on for a long time) : The result being that without some documentation Y will never shut up about their mistreatment and how USAC is not treating them fairly etc.  Most race directors that have talked to over the years including my self have been both X and Y at various times over the years.

 

Our 2011 race evaluation score cards are not available 5 months past our events.

 

Some of the below ideals were stolen from USAT and ACA

 

If you have comments, changes or suggested improvements then please include how they are to be implemented and by what date.

 

1.     The USAC present to all NCR and UCI race directors  a copy of the form that USAC is using for the 2012 season  by the end of May 2012 (or some other date no later then end of July) so we can see what we are being graded on and do the long range planning necessary to meet race evaluation requirements.   The form should have enough questions to capture the quality of the race be backed up with a photo to document complaince and each question should have a numerical score. The score of the race should be posted on USAC website.  A photo to back should make any disputes over a races grade easily resolvable.  Races would have to make available to USAC staff a way of presenting or printing the photos on site.

2.     If the UCI allows it USAC will make available the blank forms that UCI is using each year so we can see what they are looking for each year.  Irgardless of if we can see the form, Photo back up of compliance should be mandotory.

3.     All USAC races should have their USAC race evaluations presented at the end of each race day with the other forms that cover insurance payment and rider numbers, with  space as necessary for the race director to add their own comments as necessary and/or the race director should fill in his own copy of the form and present it with the officials report. 

4.     USAC to review the race reports with the race director and  the race graded and the results posted within 10 days of the event.  Within 5 days if there is no substantial disagreement on how the race was scored.

5.     USAC to define who receives the report at USAC and how disputes are to be resolved.

6.     USAC to provide weekly updates during the season to officials and race directors on what areas the races are scoring high on and what they are scoring low on.

7.     USAC to define how our race evaluations are to used to upgrade/downgrade from NRC/Cat2/Cat1

 

 

Please add comments and suggestions and if you vote up or down on this as a whole or by number before the end of day today to help in the discussion in Colorado on Saturday. 

 

Thanks to everybody who helped out on this.

 

Tom McDaniel

Race Director

Granogue Cross

 

302 420 2165

 

 

 



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#1227 From: Tim Hopkin <thopkin@...>
Date: Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:44 pm
Subject: RE: USAC Race evaluations of UCI and NRC races 		timhopkin
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I agree with the points presented. If a standard is to be met or criteria to be adhered to, thus leading to an official evaluation then knowing the expectations ahead of time is important.

 

At present reading the UCI rules and trying to follow those seems to be the criteria one must meet.

 

Does this evaluation system/process currently occur with other disciplines? Ie. Road racing, mountain bike, etc?

 

Tim Hopkin

North Carolina Grand Prix

 

From: USAICO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:USAICO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom McDaniel
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:11 AM
To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [USAICO] USAC Race evaluations of UCI and NRC races

 

 

USAC Race evaluations of UCI and NRC races.

 

Note: I don’t know how this can or should be adjusted to work in areas that use ACA and ORBRA.  To restate as a question how does a ACA or ORBRA race become a NRC / UCI race.

 

I have some issues with the way races were evaluated this past season. I’ve discussed the issues with USAC and some other UCI promoters. At this time I don’t have a race report for the 2 Granogue races so some of the below suggestions may have already been addressed. 

 

From my discussions with other promoters, race officials, USAC staff, racers and sponsors:

 

Closed scoring can lead to Q's about how/why event X was better then event Y ; whereas open scoring allows promoters to identify top performing events and areas of improvement. If "advancing the sport" is the primary objective of USAC then a formal and structured review process should be installed. 

 

Our UCI reports vary from year to year based more on who is doing the report and less on what changes we made year to year.

 

More than one official has mentioned there seems to be no improvement from year to year on issues they write up.  The feeling being that no one pays any attention to the reports.

 

Race X gets special treatment they did such and such wrong and…. (this can go on for some time)  and we Y did such and such better …(again this goes on for a long time) : The result being that without some documentation Y will never shut up about their mistreatment and how USAC is not treating them fairly etc.  Most race directors that have talked to over the years including my self have been both X and Y at various times over the years.

 

Our 2011 race evaluation score cards are not available 5 months past our events.

 

Some of the below ideals were stolen from USAT and ACA

 

If you have comments, changes or suggested improvements then please include how they are to be implemented and by what date.

 

1.     The USAC present to all NCR and UCI race directors  a copy of the form that USAC is using for the 2012 season  by the end of May 2012 (or some other date no later then end of July) so we can see what we are being graded on and do the long range planning necessary to meet race evaluation requirements.   The form should have enough questions to capture the quality of the race be backed up with a photo to document complaince and each question should have a numerical score. The score of the race should be posted on USAC website.  A photo to back should make any disputes over a races grade easily resolvable.  Races would have to make available to USAC staff a way of presenting or printing the photos on site.

2.     If the UCI allows it USAC will make available the blank forms that UCI is using each year so we can see what they are looking for each year.  Irgardless of if we can see the form, Photo back up of compliance should be mandotory.

3.     All USAC races should have their USAC race evaluations presented at the end of each race day with the other forms that cover insurance payment and rider numbers, with  space as necessary for the race director to add their own comments as necessary and/or the race director should fill in his own copy of the form and present it with the officials report. 

4.     USAC to review the race reports with the race director and  the race graded and the results posted within 10 days of the event.  Within 5 days if there is no substantial disagreement on how the race was scored.

5.     USAC to define who receives the report at USAC and how disputes are to be resolved.

6.     USAC to provide weekly updates during the season to officials and race directors on what areas the races are scoring high on and what they are scoring low on.

7.     USAC to define how our race evaluations are to used to upgrade/downgrade from NRC/Cat2/Cat1

 

 

Please add comments and suggestions and if you vote up or down on this as a whole or by number before the end of day today to help in the discussion in Colorado on Saturday. 

 

Thanks to everybody who helped out on this.

 

Tom McDaniel

Race Director

Granogue Cross

 

302 420 2165

 

 

 


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#1228 From: "Tom McDaniel" <granoguecross@...>
Date: Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:53 am
Subject: Granogues 2011 Evaluations 		granoguecross
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Here are Granogue’s race evaluations from 2011.

 

Tom


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#1229 From: Douglas Dobrozsi <ddobrozsi@...>
Date: Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:55 pm
Subject: Re: Granogues 2011 Evaluations [2 Attachments] 		kidbikecoach
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Tom,
Thanks for letting us all see these.  Couple of questions?  Did these come from Kelly?  And, were the contents of the reports consistent with your post-race briefings?

Doug Dobrozsi

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:53 AM, Tom McDaniel <granoguecross@...> wrote:
[Attachment(s) from Tom McDaniel included below]

Here are Granogue’s race evaluations from 2011.

 

Tom


Attachment(s) from Tom McDaniel

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#1230 From: "Tom McDaniel" <granoguecross@...>
Date: Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:39 pm
Subject: RE: Granogues 2011 Evaluations 		granoguecross
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Yes these came from Kelli Lusk, I thought everybody was going to get there reports at the same time but that could have changed, were putting on two days of MTB bike races at Granogue this weekend so I can’t go into detail about our total experience with the race review process at this time.

 

We have a question in to Kelli about the missing grades on the summery and all the missing info on the USAC race report.

 

In haste

 

Tom

 

From: USAICO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:USAICO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Dobrozsi
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:56 AM
To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [USAICO] Granogues 2011 Evaluations

 

 

Tom,
Thanks for letting us all see these.  Couple of questions?  Did these come from Kelly?  And, were the contents of the reports consistent with your post-race briefings?

Doug Dobrozsi

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:53 AM, Tom McDaniel <granoguecross@...> wrote:

[Attachment(s) from Tom McDaniel included below]

Here are Granogue’s race evaluations from 2011.

 

Tom

 

Attachment(s) from Tom McDaniel

2 of 2 File(s)

 

 


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#1231 From: ChicagoCrossCup <chicagocrosscup@...>
Date: Sun May 8, 2011 11:28 pm
Subject: UCI Calendar Fee Invoices 		scottcolbury
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Hi all,
Just wondering if everyone else received their UCI calendar fee invoices in the mail this past week?
I was under the impression these fees were due later in the summer, but my invoices say payment is due withing 15 days.

Thanks,
jason knauff

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#1232 From: Mitch Graham <mitch_biowheels@...>
Date: Sun May 8, 2011 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: UCI Calendar Fee Invoices 		mitch_biowheels
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Haven't seen mine yet Jason.  Normally receive it in July or August.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 8, 2011, at 7:28 PM, ChicagoCrossCup <chicagocrosscup@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

Just wondering if everyone else received their UCI calendar fee invoices in the mail this past week?
I was under the impression these fees were due later in the summer, but my invoices say payment is due withing 15 days.

Thanks,
jason knauff


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#1233 From: joan hanscom <joanhan@...>
Date: Sun May 8, 2011 11:50 pm
Subject: Re: UCI Calendar Fee Invoices 		joanhanscom
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I got the USGP too.


On May 8, 2011, at 7:28 PM, ChicagoCrossCup wrote:

 

Hi all,

Just wondering if everyone else received their UCI calendar fee invoices in the mail this past week?
I was under the impression these fees were due later in the summer, but my invoices say payment is due withing 15 days.

Thanks,
jason knauff


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USGP of Cyclocross - Event Director
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#1234 From: "Tom McDaniel" <granoguecross@...>
Date: Mon May 9, 2011 12:26 am
Subject: RE: UCI Calendar Fee Invoices 		granoguecross
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We have ours, I did not notice the pay in fifteen day note. 

 

Thanks for the heads up.

 

Tom

 

From: USAICO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:USAICO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Graham
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 7:37 PM
To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [USAICO] UCI Calendar Fee Invoices

 

 

Haven't seen mine yet Jason.  Normally receive it in July or August.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 8, 2011, at 7:28 PM, ChicagoCrossCup <chicagocrosscup@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

Just wondering if everyone else received their UCI calendar fee invoices in the mail this past week?
I was under the impression these fees were due later in the summer, but my invoices say payment is due withing 15 days.

 

Thanks,

jason knauff


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#1235 From: Paul Boudreau <paullyb@...>
Date: Mon May 9, 2011 12:30 am
Subject: Re: UCI Calendar Fee Invoices 		paullybecvcross
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Got my C1 one Wednesday and the C2 one Saturday.

-p


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ECV's mission is to enhance the opportunities for members to enjoy the numerous benefits derived from the simple, youthful act of riding a bike.



On May 8, 2011, at 7:28 PM, ChicagoCrossCup wrote:

 

Hi all,

Just wondering if everyone else received their UCI calendar fee invoices in the mail this past week?
I was under the impression these fees were due later in the summer, but my invoices say payment is due withing 15 days.

Thanks,
jason knauff



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#1236 From: "Meehan Jr., John" <john.meehan@...>
Date: Tue May 10, 2011 10:02 pm
Subject: RE: UCI Calendar Fee Invoices 		hawkeyealumni
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I have been out of the country since just before the summit and won’t be back before the end of ToC. No idea if it came, but it will be past about 25 days by the time I get home.

 

I agree that we usually never see these fee requests until August…what changed?

 

 

John Meehan

Jingle Cross

 

From: USAICO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:USAICO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom McDaniel
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:27 PM
To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [USAICO] UCI Calendar Fee Invoices

 

 

We have ours, I did not notice the pay in fifteen day note. 

 

Thanks for the heads up.

 

Tom

 

From: USAICO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:USAICO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Graham
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 7:37 PM
To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [USAICO] UCI Calendar Fee Invoices

 

 

Haven't seen mine yet Jason.  Normally receive it in July or August.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 8, 2011, at 7:28 PM, ChicagoCrossCup <chicagocrosscup@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

Just wondering if everyone else received their UCI calendar fee invoices in the mail this past week?
I was under the impression these fees were due later in the summer, but my invoices say payment is due withing 15 days.

 

Thanks,

jason knauff


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#1237 From: David Miller <hwy2L@...>
Date: Thu May 12, 2011 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: UCI Calendar Fee Invoices 		hwy2L@...
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Got ours and paid already.  Freaking exchange rate is .......................  Enough said.
Big guy


On 5/8/11 7:36 PM, "Mitch Graham" <mitch_biowheels@...> wrote:


 
 
   

Haven't seen mine yet Jason.  Normally receive it in July or August.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 8, 2011, at 7:28 PM, ChicagoCrossCup <chicagocrosscup@...> wrote:

 
   

Hi all,

Just wondering if everyone else received their UCI calendar fee invoices in the mail this past week?
I was under the impression these fees were due later in the summer, but my invoices say payment is due withing 15 days.

Thanks,
jason knauff
www.chicrosscup.com <http://www.chicrosscup.com>  <http://www.chicrosscup.com>
 
  

   



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#1238 From: "Terry Buchanan" <terry@...>
Date: Tue May 31, 2011 8:06 pm
Subject: Raleigh's Midsummer Nights Cyclocross Offers "Pro Contract" 		mfgcyclocross
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Folks,

This is an awesome opportunity for an emerging male for female rider in your
region to get tremendous support for the 2010/2011 season. I am hoping you
all will help spread the word with any mailing list in your area, your rider
lists and an email through your previous events on BikeReg.com to the
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For the Elite Men and Women races, Raleigh Bicycles will have a "pro
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Raleigh's Midsummber Night's Cyclocross on July 21st in Roslyn, WA is just
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Other events in the area at this time include:
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For more information on Raleigh's Midsummer Night's Cyclocross please visit
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www.mfgcyclocross.com



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#1239 From: Paul Boudreau <paullyb@...>
Date: Mon Jun 6, 2011 11:54 am
Subject: UCI Comm assignments 		paullybecvcross
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So has everyone learned who their UCI Comms are for this season?
Gloucester has Tom Nee.

-p



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#1240 From: ChicagoCrossCup <chicagocrosscup@...>
Date: Mon Jun 6, 2011 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: UCI Comm assignments 		scottcolbury
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We haven't heard anything yet for the NYR in Chicago.
Jason Knauff

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Paul Boudreau <paullyb@...> wrote:
 

So has everyone learned who their UCI Comms are for this season?

Gloucester has Tom Nee.

-p



ecv
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#1241 From: KRISTOPHER AUER <kristopherauer@...>
Date: Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: UCI Comm assignments 		krisauer
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Charm city is still in the dark.  Have people actually received their uci reports from 2010? 

Kristopher Auer
The Athlete Development Group


On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:56 AM, ChicagoCrossCup <chicagocrosscup@...> wrote:

 

We haven't heard anything yet for the NYR in Chicago.
Jason Knauff

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Paul Boudreau <paullyb@...> wrote:
 

So has everyone learned who their UCI Comms are for this season?

Gloucester has Tom Nee.

-p



ecv
Paul Boudreau | President | paul@...
Essex County Velo, LLC
PO Box 5534 Beverly Farms, MA 01915

ECV's mission is to enhance the opportunities for members to enjoy the numerous benefits derived from the simple, youthful act of riding a bike.





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#1242 From: "Lusk, Kelli" <klusk@...>
Date: Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:27 pm
Subject: RE: UCI Comm assignments 		kelli.lusk
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I’ve asked Shawn Farrell (USAC Technical Director) to send me the list of UCI President of the Commissaires Panel (PCP) or in the US, known as the chief official, if he’s received it from the UCI. 

 

You should be receiving the PCP assignment either directly from the UCI or the PCP will be contacting you.  I can also forward to you the name of your PCP once I receive the information.

 

Kelli Lusk

National Events Director

USA Cycling

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Subject: Re: [USAICO] UCI Comm assignments

 

 

Charm city is still in the dark.  Have people actually received their uci reports from 2010? 

Kristopher Auer

The Athlete Development Group

 


On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:56 AM, ChicagoCrossCup <chicagocrosscup@...> wrote:

 

We haven't heard anything yet for the NYR in Chicago.
Jason Knauff

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Paul Boudreau <paullyb@...> wrote:

 

So has everyone learned who their UCI Comms are for this season?

Gloucester has Tom Nee.

 

-p



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#1243 From: Paul Boudreau <paullyb@...>
Date: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:36 pm
Subject: Fwd: Modifications réglement cyclo-cross / Modifications cyclo-cross rules 		paullybecvcross
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I assume everyone got this. No surprises.

-p

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Begin forwarded message:

From: Van den Abeele Peter - UCI <Peter.VandenAbeele@...>
Date: June 24, 2011 4:15:53 AM EDT
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Modifications réglement cyclo-cross / Modifications cyclo-cross rules

Madame, Monsieur,
 
Le Comité Directeur de l’UCI a approuvé sur recommandation de la Commission Cyclo-cross les modifications du règlement Cyclo-cross qui entrent en vigueur dès le début de la saison.
 
Vous trouverez ci-dessous le lien sur règlement Cyclo-cross (à noter que les changements sont inscrits en rouge):
 
Meilleures salutations,
 
*****************************************
 
Dear Madam, Dear Sir,
 
The UCI Management Committee has approved on the recommendation of the Cyclo-cross Commission the modifications of the Cyclo-cross rules to come into effect as from the beginning of the season.
 
You will find below the link to the Cyclo-cross rules (note that the changes are highlighted in red):
 
 
Best regards,
 
Peter Van den Abeele
Manager Off-Road Disciplines
Union Cycliste Internationale
CH - 1860 Aigle
Tél.: +41-24.468.58.11
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#1244 From: Adam Myerson <adam@...>
Date: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:08 pm
Subject: Excellent advice 		adamhodgesmy...
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Thought you might all enjoy this exceptional advice on how we can improve our
races, from Mr. Jonny Bold:

http://jonnybold.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-england-cross-races.html

Can't believe we didn't all think of it first.

--
Adam Myerson
413-204-3203
adam@...

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#1245 From: Alan Atwood <Alan_Atwood@...>
Date: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:21 pm
Subject: RE: Excellent advice 		alan_atwood
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As much as I like Jonny; he does not have the perspective of a promoter.  For a majority of the promoters out there, no cat 4 races means a big chunk of the budget out the window, and thus no race for anyone, unless someone has a rainy day fund. 

If this is the direction that is desired for cross in the U.S., then the UCI and USAC might get their wish and the calendar will be reduced at least in half.

Alan Atwood

To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
From: adam@...
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:08:23 -0400
Subject: [USAICO] Excellent advice

 
Thought you might all enjoy this exceptional advice on how we can improve our races, from Mr. Jonny Bold:

http://jonnybold.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-england-cross-races.html

Can't believe we didn't all think of it first.

--
Adam Myerson
413-204-3203
adam@...

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#1246 From: Adam Myerson <adam@...>
Date: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:31 pm
Subject: Re: Excellent advice 		adamhodgesmy...
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I thought it would go without saying that I was being sarcastic, and his "advice" can't be taken seriously for a moment.

I'd cut his damn pro masters class and make him race elites way before I'd cut the cat. 4's!

--
Adam Myerson
413-204-3203

On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Alan Atwood <Alan_Atwood@...> wrote:

As much as I like Jonny; he does not have the perspective of a promoter.  For a majority of the promoters out there, no cat 4 races means a big chunk of the budget out the window, and thus no race for anyone, unless someone has a rainy day fund. 

If this is the direction that is desired for cross in the U.S., then the UCI and USAC might get their wish and the calendar will be reduced at least in half.

Alan Atwood

To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
From: adam@...
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:08:23 -0400
Subject: [USAICO] Excellent advice

 
Thought you might all enjoy this exceptional advice on how we can improve our races, from Mr. Jonny Bold:

http://jonnybold.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-england-cross-races.html

Can't believe we didn't all think of it first.

--
Adam Myerson
413-204-3203
adam@...

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#1247 From: Myles Romanow <ilovetoracecross@...>
Date: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: Excellent advice 		bikeguy11968
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There may be a legitimate thought in there,  longer warm up periods.  

On Jul 28, 2011 12:32 PM, "Adam Myerson" <adam@...> wrote:
> I thought it would go without saying that I was being sarcastic, and his "advice" can't be taken seriously for a moment.
>
> I'd cut his damn pro masters class and make him race elites way before I'd cut the cat. 4's!
>
> --
> Adam Myerson
> 413-204-3203
> adam@...
>
> On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Alan Atwood <Alan_Atwood@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> As much as I like Jonny; he does not have the perspective of a promoter. For a majority of the promoters out there, no cat 4 races means a big chunk of the budget out the window, and thus no race for anyone, unless someone has a rainy day fund.
>>
>> If this is the direction that is desired for cross in the U.S., then the UCI and USAC might get their wish and the calendar will be reduced at least in half.
>>
>> Alan Atwood
>>
>> To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
>> From: adam@...
>> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:08:23 -0400
>> Subject: [USAICO] Excellent advice
>>
>> Thought you might all enjoy this exceptional advice on how we can improve our races, from Mr. Jonny Bold:
>>
>> http://jonnybold.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-england-cross-races.html
>>
>> Can't believe we didn't all think of it first.
>>
>> --
>> Adam Myerson
>> 413-204-3203
>> adam@...
>>
>>
>>

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#1248 From: ChicagoCrossCup <chicagocrosscup@...>
Date: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: Excellent advice 		scottcolbury
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Agreed with Alan.

We have a much smaller Pro population here in the Chicago (actually, hardly any except Barry and Mike Sherererer) so our situation is obviously much different than the coasts... we actually have two Cat 4 races (100 max each) here in Chicago because of demand. We cater to the Cat 4's since we know they are our bread and butter and our series would not exist without them. There is no way we would get rid of those 2 races to make room for the ~30 Cat 1/2/3 men racers... much less the ~10 Cat 1/2/3 Women. Johnny seems to be advocating more of a European model. Our fastest racers have never complained directly to me about being able to get in warm-up laps. 

Also, if an event is two days of racing (Gloucester, Providence, CX3, USGPs, etc) when would the Cat 4's be able to race.

Each series and situation is different and we each have our ways of dealing with it. I guess its a good problem to have with so many people wanting to race CX. Our series has grown nearly 30% over each of the last 4 years (less last year) and the growing pains have been painful... very painful at times. But as long as we have listened to all sides of the equation and made balanced and fair decisions the overwhelming majority of riders have been happy and appreciative. And the ones who are not have gone away... making more room for those that are. 

Its just bike racing... right?
Thanks and have a great weekend... its almost THE season!
jason knauff

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Alan Atwood <Alan_Atwood@...> wrote:
 

As much as I like Jonny; he does not have the perspective of a promoter.  For a majority of the promoters out there, no cat 4 races means a big chunk of the budget out the window, and thus no race for anyone, unless someone has a rainy day fund. 

If this is the direction that is desired for cross in the U.S., then the UCI and USAC might get their wish and the calendar will be reduced at least in half.

Alan Atwood

To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
From: adam@...
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:08:23 -0400
Subject: [USAICO] Excellent advice


 
Thought you might all enjoy this exceptional advice on how we can improve our races, from Mr. Jonny Bold:

http://jonnybold.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-england-cross-races.html

Can't believe we didn't all think of it first.

--
Adam Myerson
413-204-3203
adam@...



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#1249 From: Paul Boudreau <paullyb@...>
Date: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: Excellent advice 		paullybecvcross
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I can't believe I'm even responding to this.....

Ain't happening in Gloucester. If I tell Cat 4s they aren't welcome so JB can get more warm-up time.....I don't even want to finish this sentence.
The whole idea is just self serving & ludicrous.

-p


On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Myles Romanow wrote:

 

There may be a legitimate thought in there,  longer warm up periods.  

On Jul 28, 2011 12:32 PM, "Adam Myerson" <adam@...> wrote:
> I thought it would go without saying that I was being sarcastic, and his "advice" can't be taken seriously for a moment.
>
> I'd cut his damn pro masters class and make him race elites way before I'd cut the cat. 4's!
>
> --
> Adam Myerson
> 413-204-3203
> adam@...
>
> On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Alan Atwood <Alan_Atwood@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> As much as I like Jonny; he does not have the perspective of a promoter. For a majority of the promoters out there, no cat 4 races means a big chunk of the budget out the window, and thus no race for anyone, unless someone has a rainy day fund.
>>
>> If this is the direction that is desired for cross in the U.S., then the UCI and USAC might get their wish and the calendar will be reduced at least in half.
>>
>> Alan Atwood
>>
>> To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
>> From: adam@...
>> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:08:23 -0400
>> Subject: [USAICO] Excellent advice
>>
>> Thought you might all enjoy this exceptional advice on how we can improve our races, from Mr. Jonny Bold:
>>
>> http://jonnybold.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-england-cross-races.html
>>
>> Can't believe we didn't all think of it first.
>>
>> --
>> Adam Myerson
>> 413-204-3203
>> adam@...
>>
>>
>>



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#1250 From: john@...
Date: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:11 pm
Subject: UCI reports, how to respond? 		jrgbike
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I received my UCI report in the mail about 3-4 weeks ago for our Downeast
Cyclocross Weekend in Maine last October. It listed some problems, some of which
were incorrect. As a result The UCI basically penalized me and took one of the
days away for this season.
   There has to be some way we can get a report the same day or within a week
from our chief UCI official. It's kind of hard to respond if you dispute any of
the report when 10 months has passed. Any ideas?

  Thanks
  John Grenier
  Downeast Cyclocross

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#1251 From: Adam Myerson <adam@...>
Date: Fri Sep 9, 2011 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: UCI reports, how to respond? 		adamhodgesmy...
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Haven't seen any response to this, but in looking over my reports, I definitely
have the same issues.

For the Nor'easter, it claims that I didn't have a technical guide, when I
clearly did. It's posted on the web site, and it was emailed to our commissaire
when he made contact with us ahead of the event. It also says that our results
had incomplete information and were not submitted in the correct format, but of
course the same person is producing and submitting results for almost all of the
NE races. The format didn't change for one race.

Considering how seriously these reports are being taken, it's crucial we have
some kind of voice or opportunity to appeal them when they have clear errors
caused by a commissaire who hasn't done their due diligence.

Adam


On Aug 26, 2011, at 4:11 PM, john@... wrote:

>  I received my UCI report in the mail about 3-4 weeks ago for our Downeast
Cyclocross Weekend in Maine last October. It listed some problems, some of which
were incorrect. As a result The UCI basically penalized me and took one of the
days away for this season.
>  There has to be some way we can get a report the same day or within a week
from our chief UCI official. It's kind of hard to respond if you dispute any of
the report when 10 months has passed. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
> John Grenier
> Downeast Cyclocross
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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#1252 From: "Brook.Watts@CrossVegas" <brook.watts@...>
Date: Fri Sep 9, 2011 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: UCI reports, how to respond? 		bikemundo
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I think this is an issue we need to take up with the Cyclocross Commission.  It's a legitimate concern to get some summary report asap.

I'm open to discussing with Geoff Proctor, our de facto US rep, when I see him next week

It's also illustrates the need for a more unified cross promoters organization since our voice on this e-mail group is not an official channel to the decision makers.



Brook Watts
brook.watts@...
303-684-9170 Office
303-907-3133 Cell
323-329-9315 Fax
http://www.crossvegas.com
Wednesday Sept. 14, 2011

On Sep 9, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Adam Myerson wrote:

 

Haven't seen any response to this, but in looking over my reports, I definitely have the same issues.

For the Nor'easter, it claims that I didn't have a technical guide, when I clearly did. It's posted on the web site, and it was emailed to our commissaire when he made contact with us ahead of the event. It also says that our results had incomplete information and were not submitted in the correct format, but of course the same person is producing and submitting results for almost all of the NE races. The format didn't change for one race.

Considering how seriously these reports are being taken, it's crucial we have some kind of voice or opportunity to appeal them when they have clear errors caused by a commissaire who hasn't done their due diligence.

Adam

On Aug 26, 2011, at 4:11 PM, john@... wrote:

> I received my UCI report in the mail about 3-4 weeks ago for our Downeast Cyclocross Weekend in Maine last October. It listed some problems, some of which were incorrect. As a result The UCI basically penalized me and took one of the days away for this season.
> There has to be some way we can get a report the same day or within a week from our chief UCI official. It's kind of hard to respond if you dispute any of the report when 10 months has passed. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
> John Grenier
> Downeast Cyclocross
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



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#1253 From: Myles Romanow <ilovetoracecross@...>
Date: Fri Sep 9, 2011 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: UCI reports, how to respond? 		bikeguy11968
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I have to report similar occurences.  Despite not being uci last year, we still had flaws with our official reporting.

Most notably was a "lack of timing/scoring " on day one of our event. 

Odd since we employ a highly competent results professional.   For both days.  Who was kind enough to give the officials shelter in his tent prior to their tent being set up. 

Some fashion of review process is needed be it submission yo usac prior to the uci or something else

On Sep 9, 2011 9:49 AM, "Brook.Watts@CrossVegas" <brook.watts@...> wrote:
> I think this is an issue we need to take up with the Cyclocross Commission. It's a legitimate concern to get some summary report asap.
>
> I'm open to discussing with Geoff Proctor, our de facto US rep, when I see him next week
>
> It's also illustrates the need for a more unified cross promoters organization since our voice on this e-mail group is not an official channel to the decision makers.
>
>
>
> Brook Watts
> brook.watts@...
> 303-684-9170 Office
> 303-907-3133 Cell
> 323-329-9315 Fax
> http://www.crossvegas.com
> Wednesday Sept. 14, 2011
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Adam Myerson wrote:
>
>> Haven't seen any response to this, but in looking over my reports, I definitely have the same issues.
>>
>> For the Nor'easter, it claims that I didn't have a technical guide, when I clearly did. It's posted on the web site, and it was emailed to our commissaire when he made contact with us ahead of the event. It also says that our results had incomplete information and were not submitted in the correct format, but of course the same person is producing and submitting results for almost all of the NE races. The format didn't change for one race.
>>
>> Considering how seriously these reports are being taken, it's crucial we have some kind of voice or opportunity to appeal them when they have clear errors caused by a commissaire who hasn't done their due diligence.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2011, at 4:11 PM, john@... wrote:
>>
>> > I received my UCI report in the mail about 3-4 weeks ago for our Downeast Cyclocross Weekend in Maine last October. It listed some problems, some of which were incorrect. As a result The UCI basically penalized me and took one of the days away for this season.
>> > There has to be some way we can get a report the same day or within a week from our chief UCI official. It's kind of hard to respond if you dispute any of the report when 10 months has passed. Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > John Grenier
>> > Downeast Cyclocross
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

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#1254 From: Douglas Dobrozsi <ddobrozsi@...>
Date: Fri Sep 9, 2011 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: UCI reports, how to respond? 		kidbikecoach
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Java Johnny's (Cincinnati day 2) report emailed from USAC I was dinged for no ambulance on site, but I paid a lot to have one and it was there.  This was not included in the nice letter I received from the UCI a few weeks ago.

Doug Dobrozsi

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Myles Romanow <ilovetoracecross@...> wrote:


I have to report similar occurences.  Despite not being uci last year, we still had flaws with our official reporting.

Most notably was a "lack of timing/scoring " on day one of our event. 

Odd since we employ a highly competent results professional.   For both days.  Who was kind enough to give the officials shelter in his tent prior to their tent being set up. 

Some fashion of review process is needed be it submission yo usac prior to the uci or something else

On Sep 9, 2011 9:49 AM, "Brook.Watts@CrossVegas" <brook.watts@...> wrote:
> I think this is an issue we need to take up with the Cyclocross Commission. It's a legitimate concern to get some summary report asap.
>
> I'm open to discussing with Geoff Proctor, our de facto US rep, when I see him next week
>
> It's also illustrates the need for a more unified cross promoters organization since our voice on this e-mail group is not an official channel to the decision makers.
>
>
>
> Brook Watts
> brook.watts@...
> 303-684-9170 Office
> 303-907-3133 Cell
> 323-329-9315 Fax
> http://www.crossvegas.com
> Wednesday Sept. 14, 2011
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Adam Myerson wrote:
>
>> Haven't seen any response to this, but in looking over my reports, I definitely have the same issues.
>>
>> For the Nor'easter, it claims that I didn't have a technical guide, when I clearly did. It's posted on the web site, and it was emailed to our commissaire when he made contact with us ahead of the event. It also says that our results had incomplete information and were not submitted in the correct format, but of course the same person is producing and submitting results for almost all of the NE races. The format didn't change for one race.
>>
>> Considering how seriously these reports are being taken, it's crucial we have some kind of voice or opportunity to appeal them when they have clear errors caused by a commissaire who hasn't done their due diligence.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2011, at 4:11 PM, john@... wrote:
>>
>> > I received my UCI report in the mail about 3-4 weeks ago for our Downeast Cyclocross Weekend in Maine last October. It listed some problems, some of which were incorrect. As a result The UCI basically penalized me and took one of the days away for this season.
>> > There has to be some way we can get a report the same day or within a week from our chief UCI official. It's kind of hard to respond if you dispute any of the report when 10 months has passed. Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > John Grenier
>> > Downeast Cyclocross
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>




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