<<You are asking for a spoiler.>> Honestly, I don't see how it is a spoiler, nor do I see how the answer isn't obvious. The book isn't called "The Tale of...
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tea_party@...
uncutray
Jun 20, 2007 2:51 pm
Yeah, I know. Sorry. Thanks for the off-line reply and thanks to Rob for the on-line reply with the Spoiler warnings. The Tale of Turin Turambar is not my...
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tea_party@...
uncutray
Jun 20, 2007 3:26 pm
Well, it might have begun with the end of the Nirnaeth Arnoediad where Hurin is captured by Morgoth. That is also a logical place to begin, especially if CT ...
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tea_party@...
uncutray
Jun 20, 2007 3:27 pm
The more I read the passage and the others where she uses her powers, the more convinced I became that your viewpoint is the correct and intended one. Thanks...
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tea_party@...
uncutray
Jun 20, 2007 3:38 pm
... And so a Silmaril will now be in possession of a man and then of an Elve who is not under the curse of the Noldor, but who has brought it upon himself...
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tea_party@...
uncutray
Jun 20, 2007 5:18 pm
... Okay, so then does it move to the Nirnaeth Arnoediad before going into the tale of Turin Turambar? Does it end at the end of the Tale of Turin, or are...
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Rob
cosmiccostello
Jun 21, 2007 12:56 am
<<Luthien casts off her disguise and glows with a radiant light as a power of old descends upon her, then she puts Carcharoth to sleep with her power.>> I know...
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Peter Chapman
lordofhawks
Jun 21, 2007 2:00 am
Down ... From: tea_party@... To: TolkienDiscussions@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [TolkienDiscussions] Of The...
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Peter Chapman
lordofhawks
Jun 21, 2007 2:06 am
We know that JRRT never got Beren & Luthien close to a final form he was happy with (from CoH). He would have an idea - put in a lot of work on it - and then...
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Rob
cosmiccostello
Jun 21, 2007 3:26 am
<<We know that JRRT never got Beren & Luthien close to a final form he was happy with (from CoH). He would have an idea - put in a lot of work on it - and then...
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tea_party@...
uncutray
Jun 21, 2007 12:26 pm
I've read this version and the one in BOLT, and I would say that neither are satisfying, but elements of both, with some judicious editing to remove ...
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Wilson, Bruce
larryu81
Jun 21, 2007 2:14 pm
Exactly. In JRRT's system, latent magical abilities are called forth by an urgent need to use them. The desire to use these powers at will and in less dire...
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tea_party@...
uncutray
Jun 21, 2007 3:00 pm
... ... and presumably the Silmarils ... Matt West ... Get your free email at ourbrisbane.com now...
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Jack
jackwhittake...
Jun 21, 2007 6:08 pm
Not unlike the gift of prophesy that comes upon people unawares, which we shall see shortly when we get into the Nirnaeth Arnoediad _____ From:...
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tea_party@...
uncutray
Jun 21, 2007 6:30 pm
... I don't think that would be consistent with her character or circumstances. She has grown up in an isolated Kingdom. She has never wandered outside her...
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tea_party@...
uncutray
Jun 21, 2007 6:36 pm
I've noticed throughout our read so far that almost everyone is aware of their future. They all treat this knowledge fatalistically and try nothing to alter ...
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Rob
cosmiccostello
Jun 21, 2007 6:37 pm
<<In JRRT's system, latent magical abilities are called forth by an urgent need to use them. The desire to use these powers at will and in less dire ...
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whiteladyofrohan@...
dpadula
Jun 21, 2007 11:03 pm
In a message dated 6/21/2007 2:31:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tea_party@... writes: I imagine her like a small bird flitting about in the near...
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Gary Bellinger
pepper_gaz
Jun 22, 2007 12:59 am
"When you wish upon a Silmarillion, you sure feel like you're worth a million" ... From: whiteladyofrohan@... To: TolkienDiscussions@yahoogroups.com Sent:...
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Servo Kamen
psycho_neko_...
Jun 22, 2007 6:35 am
http://www.myprecious.us/name_generator.php Hobbit Name: Perom 'Headstrong' Goatcloset of the Bree\ Elven Name: Merucla Felagund\ Dwarf Name: Rognus , Lord...
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tea_party@...
uncutray
Jun 22, 2007 11:56 am
Silly advertising on this page: "Also, don't forget to browse through our replicas of The One Ring. They're affordable and great looking and all your friends...
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Matt
uncutray
Jun 22, 2007 4:16 pm
Here's my suggestion for the upcoming Silmarillion discussion schedule: "Of the Fifth Battle: Nirnaeth Arnoediad" - June 25 - July 1 "Of Turin Turambar Part 1"...
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Wilson, Bruce
larryu81
Jun 22, 2007 4:24 pm
Thanks. I like it much better than in some modern fantasy where the wizard just waives his hand and the rules are suspended. Bruce A. Wilson, M.Ed., M.S.L.S. ...
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whiteladyofrohan@...
dpadula
Jun 22, 2007 9:31 pm
This schedule works for me! In a message dated 6/22/2007 12:18:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tea_party@... writes: Here's my suggestion for the...
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Ronn! Blankenship
ronn_blanken...
Jun 22, 2007 10:00 pm
At 06:55 AM Friday 6/22/2007, tea_party@... wrote: Silly advertising on this page: "Also, don't forget to browse through our replicas of The One ...
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Rob
cosmiccostello
Jun 23, 2007 2:43 am
<<"Of the Fifth Battle: Nirnaeth Arnoediad" - June 25 - July 1 "Of Turin Turambar Part 1" - July 2 - July 8 "Of Turin Turambar Part 2" - July 9 - July 15 "Of...
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Matt
uncutray
Jun 27, 2007 9:10 pm
Of the Fifth Battle: Nirnaeth Arnoediad -Beren and Luthien return to Menegroth for a time. Luthien heals the winter that has fallen on Thingol. Melian cannot...
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Rob
cosmiccostello
Jun 27, 2007 10:56 pm
<<Melian cannot look on her daughter, for she knows that she will not see her daughter again.>> Again a "power" has foresight. I presume that not ALL Maia had...
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Jack
jackwhittake...
Jun 28, 2007 6:48 am
As indeed to Men – check out Huor’s words at the end of this chapter. As to the baddies, we read that Morgoth learns of Maedhros’ plans through his spies...
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tea_party@...
uncutray
Jun 28, 2007 12:07 pm
... The power of the curse and the doom of Mandos are at work. The Noldor will always make the wrong choices and not be able to control their emotions. If I...
