Hi Russ, I did not mean to insult you, but to commend you for working with your hands. If you took it any other way, I am sorry. On another point, I wonder if...
Peter said: 2 Pet 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. So we must find where God has interpreted his...
John Amazing. Today we studied Revelation 17 in my Bible study at work. Here is my understanding of the matter. First, in A. D. 100 the Beast was pagan Rome...
The reason that I brought up the words "church" and "temple" relates to tithing. The organized church has redefined church, house of God and Temple to refer...
Another link you might want to check out is http://www.angelfire.com/nt2/grace/ I'm not sure if it is 100% correct on everything but it is a very good study,...
Rob - I am very encouraged and grateful for you giving us this opportunity to discuss these important issues. Russell, thanks for your work, "Should the church...
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Steven King
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Sep 21, 2005 8:06 pm
I like participating in online discussions when I have time...but there is a paragraph here that gives me pause... ... This sounds pseudo-Christian to me....
I agree with Steven, Rob. Though I don't agree 100% with some teachings my church has, the fellowship and love there is another part of being a Christian. We...
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Steven King
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Sep 21, 2005 8:45 pm
The essence of "...not forsaking the assembling together..." in Hebrews, has just this meaning. Church is used for encouragement/discipleship. Get people ...
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Frank M Rivers
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Sep 21, 2005 10:57 pm
Encouragement, discipleship and being sent out to preach the Gospel are absolutely essential in a believer's life, and my life certainly bears witness to this,...
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Steven King
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Sep 21, 2005 11:43 pm
Having been a minister, on any given Sunday, I could slice-and-dice most sermons I hear - finding something I think is presented incorrectly. *sigh* I am not...
... I don't think you should be judging his motives; there is absolutely nothing wrong with evangelism and I'd hope you'd agree. Furthermore, there is a...
I've read many books now that do a decent job of trashing the obligation of tithing. However, many do a really poor job at constructing a positive model of...
Tithing poem by James Bentley Tithing's not based upon millions— It's just percentage that counts, Whether your income is five figures Or is earned in lesser...
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Steven King
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Sep 22, 2005 1:29 am
I think this response is tremendously well balanced. (And maybe you can tell that I sit at work tonight sans patient...). Ahem, pardon the digression - brief...
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Steven King
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Sep 22, 2005 1:32 am
I certainly agree that discipleship is a substrata to evangelism. We can distribute the "good news" all we like...but unless people are helped to be "grounded"...
Ok... here's a thought... Does "...not forsaking the assembling together..." mean "attend church"? I personally think that may be stretching the meaning of...
My brother Steve, Thanks for the comment. Surely, you have read what the scriptures say about these things - settling for an 8/10 "church" rather than coming...
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Frank M Rivers
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Sep 22, 2005 3:08 am
The New Testament is very clear on giving. If there is a question as far as what to teach instead of tithing, try 2 Corinthians 9. To me, it is ABUNDANTLY...
B2B, although I agree with many things you cited, I wonder then if you are attending a "house" church as was common in the N.T.? My church does not have a...
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Steven King
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Sep 22, 2005 1:31 pm
Exegesis of Hebrews 10 notwithstanding... :) I feel that attendance at church is implictly implied in the NT (although) I doubt the unknown author of Hebrews...
Dear B2B, Well stated words. The only thing I would add concerning your mention of the early synagogue is that even the synagogue was more interactive than...
RE: "Encouragement, discipleship and being sent out to preach the Gospel are absolutely essential in a believer's life, and my life certainly bears witness to...
Russell, I think you are very knowlegable in this field, and I notice you have a chapter in your book devoted to Hebrews 7. Just to stir up some discussion on...
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Steven King
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Sep 22, 2005 8:51 pm
Wow, You have a lot more time than me to write emails. I am convinced otherwise of the modern church. If you feel that you're not being fed properly...then I...
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Steven King
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Sep 22, 2005 8:53 pm
Frank, I agree. To teach mandatory tithing negates faith in God's provision. Yikes. ... -- "A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the...
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Steven King
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Sep 22, 2005 8:54 pm
Interesting, Jeff. Communal gathering is the clear example of fellowship specified in the NT. Alas, you might be onto something. I haven't found a group like...
"try 2 Corinthians 9. To me, it is ABUNDANTLY CLEAR on the giving issue. Giving should be simple, and from the heart!" So, is that the only principles for...
"He quoted this verse to meant that we tithe here and Jesus is the receiver there. Heb 7:8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them,...
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Steven King
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Sep 22, 2005 11:55 pm
I believe in the law of proportional giving: to whom much has been given...much is required. Know what I am saying? Keep it real and practical... Steven ... --...
