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72 frankclancy Offline Send Email Apr 4, 2008
5:24 am
it is sad that so few have joined this group so far. It make commentary somewhat incestuous. However, let me make the following comment for Ben Sira - just...
73 David Engle
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Apr 4, 2008
2:01 pm
Hi Frank, Do you have a Ben Sira commentary to recommend? David ... to ... marked ... and ... by ... have ... two ... I ... hand, ... forgery, ... for ... he ...
74 frankclancy Offline Send Email Apr 4, 2008
5:57 pm
There are several good books on Ben Sira. The classical commentary on Ben Sira is the Anchor Bible series: Skehan, P.W., and Di Lella, A.A. (1987). The...
75 David Engle
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Apr 5, 2008
3:26 am
Thanks for all of this. My regional libraries have surprisingly little on Ben S. But I did get today a 600 p tome, 'The Canon Debate' (2002) from...
76 frankclancy Offline Send Email Apr 5, 2008
8:52 am
David -I am not as willing as you are to suggest 1 Enoch was written in the Christian era. I have no doubt that 3 Enoch (found only in a Hebrew version) was...
77 frankclancy Offline Send Email Apr 5, 2008
9:01 am
David - there wer many various Jewish sects and offsprings in the first century of Roman/Herodian dominance in Palestine. Each had their own particular...
78 David Engle
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Apr 5, 2008
1:35 pm
I wasn't asserting Christian-era origination of 1Enoch. I wrote that I think Enochic thought is reflected in Christ, meaning, 1Enoch (Ethiopic) as an...
79 frankclancy Offline Send Email Apr 5, 2008
9:07 pm
I should not have sounded as confident of my dates as I did. I have not worked the Enoch tradition so I should be more careful. I just feel that once the...
80 Bob Burns
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Apr 5, 2008
9:18 pm
... The biennial Enoch Seminars began in 2001. In the off years, the previous year's seminar articles are published. If one is able to wade through the...
81 David Engle
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Apr 6, 2008
12:35 am
No problem, Frank. Thanks for the clarification. I understand your logic and it does make sense. But in this case, regarding 3Enoch, it is (as I recall from...
82 David Engle
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Apr 6, 2008
12:49 am
Thanks Bob, I located the proceedings of the 2nd conference and have it on order. One of these days I hope to pen a little essay on the sorry state of all...
83 Bob Burns
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Apr 6, 2008
4:36 am
I have placed a parallel version of 1 Enoch here: http://www.thebookofenoch.info/html/Enoch_1_RHC_Parallel.html ...
84 David Engle
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Apr 7, 2008
7:19 pm
Frank, One more thought just came to me on this thesis of your. A curious coincidence. The gist of your timeline is that the Dtr dating comes out to be...
85 David Engle
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Apr 7, 2008
7:37 pm
Thanks Bob, this is a good comparison chart. 3-4 yrs ago James Vandkam and George Nickelsburg came out with a new 1Enoch translation reflecting DSS and lots of...
86 Bob Burns
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Apr 7, 2008
8:18 pm
Okay, I'll do it and post it here. So, Venderkam's book is about 4 years old, right? Current coyright laws enforce owners rights for 90 years from...
87 David Engle
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Apr 7, 2008
8:56 pm
Well I don't violate copyright, and of course would not add a fourth column to your layoug. But I think that a meticulous annotating of your 3 similar...
90 Bob Burns
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Apr 7, 2008
11:44 pm
It seems to be having a revival without any launches! Revision: 4/7/08 The Sequestration of Enoch "Before these things Enoch was hidden, and no one of the...
91 David Engle
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Apr 8, 2008
6:23 am
Great stuff Bob! You are right on the beam! I agree with your analysis that God has preserved Enoch for precisely this point in time. By a funny coincidence,...
92 David Engle
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Apr 8, 2008
6:49 am
One quick afterthought before I wrap for the night and get ready for bed... regarding your point about the radically AntiMosaic religious element in 1Enoch, as...
93 frankclancy Offline Send Email Apr 10, 2008
10:31 am
You may find this book review of interest. http://www.sbl-site.org/assets/pdfs/JBL1234.pdf A Study of the Geography of 1 Enoch 17–19: "No One Has Seen What I...
94 frankclancy Offline Send Email Apr 10, 2008
10:39 am
i want top thank you for the referneces for Enoch - especially on that Enoch conference every year. However, as I looked over the names, I saw a number of...
95 Bob Burns
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Apr 11, 2008
3:17 pm
Wow! And I thought they were dating things way too late for my liking! ... that ... I ... texts ... must ... be ... date ... so ... that ... texts ... texts -...
96 frankclancy Offline Send Email Apr 11, 2008
8:39 pm
A couple of years ago, I published a paper on the date of the LXX in which I argued there is no evidence and no witnesses to support a claim the Greek...
97 Bob Burns
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Apr 11, 2008
8:52 pm
Frank, prior to the mid-1st century C.E. did we have any external attestation to Isaiah?...
100 Bob Burns
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Apr 13, 2008
6:15 am
Ethiopian Orthodox Armenian Orthodox Russian Orthodox Syrian Orthodox Greek Orthodox Anglican Roman Catholic LXX Tobit ...
103 Bob Burns
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Apr 14, 2008
3:31 am
This is a proposed line-up of all the Old Testament-era books currently in use in churches. If we had a Bible which included all the books currently in use...
104 frankclancy Offline Send Email Apr 14, 2008
3:45 am
I believe the only way you can include all these texts in the "Old Testament" is to assume the first century CE should be part of the deal. When were 3 and 4...
105 David Engle
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Apr 14, 2008
4:29 pm
Hi Frank, i've been busy and am just now catching up. Regarding your late dating. Perhaps of interest to you (from Vanderkam/Flint book on the DSS) At Qumran...
106 David Engle
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Apr 14, 2008
5:50 pm
Hello Bob, Interesting idea you have on expanding the canon. Curiously though, unlike your tack, I have gone quite the opposite way with the same issue--toward...
107 Bob Burns
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Apr 14, 2008
7:20 pm
That these books are included in the canonical list of books of the Bible for one or more of the ancient communions of the church is what this list is about....
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