... tradition that prcticed 'MaDi' and 'Mailige'. Our elders who insisted that we practice them, atleast within the domain of our family, also told us many...
... Thanks, VNR. But I did not understand what Balu meant by the 'truth value' of a ritual. How do rituals get their truth values? ... I did not understand...
Dear Kranthikesvara, Notice that the word 'truth value' is surrounded by scare quotes. What I wanted to suggest thereby was that the ritual remains the same ...
... you believe about the action, then, no, intentinality is not required. ... Is there any deeper signficance to this statement other than perhaps just trying...
... Dear Balu, I too could not understand your clarification. Minimally, we all agree that the consequences of a human action are governed by causal relations....
Here is an interesting conversation: http://community.beliefnet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7138 Slightly off the topic of this thread, but since the question...
Balu has never claimed that those who believe in God are morons. In fact, his theory accounts for the fact that believers are not morons or such kind of belief...
... I know Balu never made any such claim although I always wanted him to. That was purely my belief which I often expressed on this board so I just wanted to...
Dear Balu, here is a layman's attempt to get to the heart of your insight on Indian rituals: 1. There are some observable consequences of performing a ritual...
Kranthikeshvara's post on ritual is quite confusing. The Mimamsa classifies vedic rituals into 3 types: 1. nitya karma: These are rituals that, as per the...
... Poornachandra Tejaswi also used to say that Vedic rituals are meaningless: Are you sure he wasn't a commie? I'm trying to say it in Hindi and the words...
1. Compositions of Raag Shankara or Raag Yaman or Beethoven's Fifth Symphony are Meaning-Less. Performing those compositions takes long practice after being...
Well, the ritual part was not actualy long. and well explained. We are talking of someone's (fellows of God, not fallen from God) experience when we...
Whatever Ramprasad has said is not revolutionary or paradigm-shifting. He is selling Indian traditions as a set of philosophies as every modern Indian thinker...
... shifting. He > is selling Indian traditions as a set of philosophies as every modern Indian > thinker been doing. But what's wrong with considering the...
from http://www.mkgandhi.org/articles/g_moral.htm On 15 JANUARY 1934 an earthquake shook Bihar and caused extensive damage. Mahatma Gandhi declared that this...
... What does "philosophy" refer to in our common parlance? Production of theoretical knowledge, of course. Whatever theoretical knowledge Indian traditions...
<quote-VNR> Whatever theoretical knowledge Indian traditions produced, in a way, is subordinated to the experiential knowledge. <unquote-VNR> <quote-CRP> ...
... It is very easy to point out similarities and dissimilarities: after all, thats how humans learn. Take for instance, what is it that which lies beyond ...
... Why does something have to be revolutionary or paradigm shifting? That expectation itself mirrors a very poor understanding of history as simply a series...
... pointed to ... all, ... lies beyond ... nature? ... whole ... when no ... It is not easy sometimes and very hard at other times and sometimes makes no...
what is it that which lies beyond language and thought? God? Atman? Blah Blah? What is it? What is its nature? The problem here is with the notion of "lying...
Lets get back into saying negatively. What is it that is not? Here, the (almost) same set of scholars have started describing Christianity: God, one that is...
... I have a specific description when I spoke of "revolutionary", a description that doesn't include your ephiphany. Its like telling what cats are by ...