Hello,



Does anyone know where I may find Ancient Egyptian Patterns.


THanks

Nate

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> <<24, count 'em, yards of fabric, no zippers
> anywhere...It is a whole lot more accurate than most
> commercial patterns though.  If you make it, can you
> fill me in on the experience and roughly how long it
> takes you?>>
>
> *laugh* If I decide to tackle it, I will definitely
> keep y'all posted. ;)
>
> -laura
>
Thankies! :-)
-Jessie

=====
"I would die for you." -Kevin Costner, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
  - - - - - - - - - -
"I've noticed that famous composers in particular hang on for a long time.  Deaf
as posts, most of them, when Death comes calling.  I expect some god somewhere
finds that very amusing.  It's their kind of a joke.*"

*And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't prevent composers from hearing
the music.  It prevents them from hearing the distractions.
  - - - - - - - - -
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>
> Do you have any information you could pass on for
> vendors?

    Um, ok, I know this sounds obvious, but if the event
doesn't cater to the type of people who would be interested
in your stuff, don't bother going.  Story time:

A friend of mine who was hosting a craft-type show invited
me to join in and set up a table with my med/ren costumes.
The show featured stuff like candles/insense, new age
books, spirit stuff, psycic things like that.  The scenerio
would have offered some interest, but no real hard-core
people who are seriously into the faires.  I didn't make a
single sale or take a single order.  This is 6 months ago
and I haven't heard back from a single business-card
recipient.
      Then, a few weeks ago, I went to the edinboro games
and made a killing.  The people at that event were the type
who go to other similar events.  I am being kept very busy
now making chemises, bodices, tights, kilts, and medieval
wedding gowns - all that generated from being at an event
with a high content of truly interested people.  I didn't
make that very clear, but there is a difference between
polite, curious interest and actual buying interest.

Another thing, be prepared for anything - weather if you'll
be outside, transportation of yourself and the goods, who
you'll be sharing space with, bad sale days when you dont
even break even, much less go away with gas money (our
minimum goal), the attitudes of people you are working
with, the attitudes of people you are selling
too...anything.
   Don't be stiff - haggle if you need to - I can't afford
not to sometimes.  People will buy more when they think
they are getting a deal, so come up with all sorts of
specials (I give discounts when complete outfits are sold
together).
   When selling garb/costumes/clothing, if you can get the
people into the clothes, it does wonders in convincing them
to buy.  Offer to let them try things, touch, play. Then
tell them how great they look in that kilt or gown, how
that sword is just the right size for them, how this or
that object or piece of clothing would complete the
look....just flatter them!
   And you can always (provided you are female) get big
strong guys to help you if you smile sweetly and let them
know how short handed you are.  We got two big kilted men
to carry ALL our wares for us, including the spinning wheel
and three big trunks of clothing.

Um, thats all I can think of now.  I am not very good with
lectural monologues.  I do better with specific questions.


>
> and big guys in kilts hurl big heavy objects around.
>
> I thought you were talking about the Edinboro Games,
> not Big Time Wrestling!

hehehe, I was there more for the music ;-)
>
>  -Jessie


=====
"I would die for you." -Kevin Costner, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
  - - - - - - - - - -
"I've noticed that famous composers in particular hang on for a long time.  Deaf
as posts, most of them, when Death comes calling.  I expect some god somewhere
finds that very amusing.  It's their kind of a joke.*"

*And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't prevent composers from hearing
the music.  It prevents them from hearing the distractions.
  - - - - - - - - -
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>  If you make it, can you fill me in on the experience
> and roughly how long it takes you?
>
>
> Not a problem.  It might be awhile before I can even
> get started.  It may be November before I have the
> extra time to start it.  If you start first, let me
> know.  If not, I'll fill you in.
>
> Susan

LOL, deal.  Even though I really don't think I want to try
it.  ::Shakes, hides from pattern::
-Jessie

=====
"I would die for you." -Kevin Costner, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
  - - - - - - - - - -
"I've noticed that famous composers in particular hang on for a long time.  Deaf
as posts, most of them, when Death comes calling.  I expect some god somewhere
finds that very amusing.  It's their kind of a joke.*"

*And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't prevent composers from hearing
the music.  It prevents them from hearing the distractions.
  - - - - - - - - -
“If the world could have seen what I have seen, feel what I have felt, there
would be no more war, only love.”  -MLC

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AHA!!! That makes sense!! That's right, thank you, I'll make sure that gets
done.  thanks so much Susan.
titi


>From: Susan Johnston <sewknightly@...>
>Reply-To: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
>To: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [TheCostumersManifesto] Vintage Vogue
>Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 06:48:24 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Going by the styles, there would have to be some kind
>of slit, either in the back or side, to help them walk
>and sit.  It would be a VENT style slit, covered so
>that the leg wouldn't show.  Like the back of a men's
>suit jacket.
>
>--- theresa b <trinithree@...> wrote:
> > I am using a Vintage Vogue 1950 pattern as a basis
> > for one of thw omen's
> > suits in my show.  The picture on the front of the
> > pattern shows there being
> > a slit in the side seam.  I thought nothing of it
> > until the fitting today
> > when my shop manager said that there was no such
> > thing as a slit up the side
> > in the 1940's/early  fifties (the play is set in
> > 1949).  Is this true?
> > help! I want her to be sexy!!
> >
> > thanks
> > titi
>
>
>
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>Sew Knightly
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--- theresa b <trinithree@...> wrote:
> AHA!!! That makes sense!! That's right, thank you,
> I'll make sure that gets
> done.  thanks so much Susan.
> titi
>

Not a problem!

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I just found the hard to get book "AN ELEGANT ART, Fashion &
Fantasy in the 18th Century" at eBay.  The auction ends in about 36
hours.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1435460699

--Tara

I am new to the list and just wanted to say Hey!  I do everything
from Elizabethan for the ren-faires, all classes, to costuming entire
opera productions.  Looking forward to talking shop with y'all.

LoveTriangle

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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 12:38 PM

Subject: [TheCostumersManifesto] Hello Costumers!

I am new to the list and just wanted to say Hey!  I do everything
from Elizabethan for the ren-faires, all classes, to costuming entire
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I have discovered that, absolutely, completely, 100%
without a doubt, brides are the most horrible people to
work for...

-Jessie


=====
"I would die for you." -Kevin Costner, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
  - - - - - - - - - -
"I've noticed that famous composers in particular hang on for a long time.  Deaf
as posts, most of them, when Death comes calling.  I expect some god somewhere
finds that very amusing.  It's their kind of a joke.*"

*And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't prevent composers from hearing
the music.  It prevents them from hearing the distractions.
  - - - - - - - - -
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I'm not too sure about that, or at least mothers of
the bride tie with brides!
--- Siebel San <siebelsan@...> wrote:
>
>
> I have discovered that, absolutely, completely, 100%
> without a doubt, brides are the most horrible people
> to
> work for...
>
> -Jessie
>
>
> =====
> "I would die for you." -Kevin Costner, Robin Hood:
> Prince of Thieves
>  - - - - - - - - - -
> "I've noticed that famous composers in particular
> hang on for a long time.  Deaf as posts, most of
> them, when Death comes calling.  I expect some god
> somewhere finds that very amusing.  It's their kind
> of a joke.*"
>
> *And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't
> prevent composers from hearing the music.  It
> prevents them from hearing the distractions.
>  - - - - - - - - -
> “If the world could have seen what I have seen, feel
> what I have felt, there would be no more war, only
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The bridesmaid who doesn't really want to be in the wedding and therefore
makes everything difficult (hates the dress, doesn't pay the deposit on
time, doesn't show for fittings until the day before the wedding...need I go
on?)is high on my list.

Lori Sharpsteen
www.battlefieldsandballrooms.net

-----Original Message-----
From: linda craft [mailto:costumelady@...]
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To: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TheCostumersManifesto] Just a bitch-session...


I'm not too sure about that, or at least mothers of
the bride tie with brides!
--- Siebel San <siebelsan@...> wrote:
>
>
> I have discovered that, absolutely, completely, 100%
> without a doubt, brides are the most horrible people
> to
> work for...
>
> -Jessie
>
>
> =====
> "I would die for you." -Kevin Costner, Robin Hood:
> Prince of Thieves
>  - - - - - - - - - -
> "I've noticed that famous composers in particular
> hang on for a long time.  Deaf as posts, most of
> them, when Death comes calling.  I expect some god
> somewhere finds that very amusing.  It's their kind
> of a joke.*"
>
> *And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't
> prevent composers from hearing the music.  It
> prevents them from hearing the distractions.
>  - - - - - - - - -
> “If the world could have seen what I have seen, feel
> what I have felt, there would be no more war, only
> love.”  -MLC
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Teehee, thankfully I haven't had to deal with her mother
yet...But seriously!  Brides are insane!  She calls me
every other day to check up on progress, and last time she
came in for a fitting, she complained that part of the gown
didn't look EXACTLY like the picture and wants a complete
do-over (never mind that it won't look much different than
it does now!).  AAAAHH!  If I wasn't so poor I'd tell her
to bugger off, but ::sigh:: I'll probably be exactly the
same when I get married.

-Jessie

> I'm not too sure about that, or at least mothers of
> the bride tie with brides!
> --- Siebel San <siebelsan@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have discovered that, absolutely, completely, 100%
> > without a doubt, brides are the most horrible people
> > to
> > work for...
> >


=====
"I would die for you." -Kevin Costner, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
  - - - - - - - - - -
"I've noticed that famous composers in particular hang on for a long time.  Deaf
as posts, most of them, when Death comes calling.  I expect some god somewhere
finds that very amusing.  It's their kind of a joke.*"

*And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't prevent composers from hearing
the music.  It prevents them from hearing the distractions.
  - - - - - - - - -
“If the world could have seen what I have seen, feel what I have felt, there
would be no more war, only love.”  -MLC

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Hello all!

Felt ambitious this afternoon and made a new Medieval
Celtic dress.  This dress has a periwinkle-blue bodice that
laces in the front and at the shoulders with silver
eyelets, and a very full gathered skirt made of cotton
(looks like wool!) plaid.  I am not sure if the plaid is an
authentic family tartan, but it is checks of white and
shades of blue with golden yellow lines.  Very beautiful
plaid, not at all garish.  I'll try my best to get a
picture online if anyone is interested.  This gown is not
yet hemmed - I will hem to your specifications.  The bodice
is fully lined and the entire gown is made of 100% cotton.
There is only one raw edge on this dress (Where the skirt
joins the bodice) and it is finished off with a zig-zag
stitch.

I will sell this dress for $60 or offer.  It is designed to
be worn with a full-length chemise.  If desired, I'll make
one for you to go with this dress for $30.  If interested,
please contact me at PalaisGarnier@....

Thanks!
Jessie



=====
"I would die for you." -Kevin Costner, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
  - - - - - - - - - -
"I've noticed that famous composers in particular hang on for a long time.  Deaf
as posts, most of them, when Death comes calling.  I expect some god somewhere
finds that very amusing.  It's their kind of a joke.*"

*And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't prevent composers from hearing
the music.  It prevents them from hearing the distractions.
  - - - - - - - - -
“If the world could have seen what I have seen, feel what I have felt, there
would be no more war, only love.”  -MLC

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Hey all--

Hope someone can help me! :)

I'm in a real bind... I'm looking for about 4 1/2
yards of wool in a moss green color (as seen in the
cloak on this webpage:
http://www.greycatdesigns.bigstep.com/catalog.html)

I've found something similar for $15.00 a yard, which
was more than I was hoping to pay.  Any thoughts as to
where I might could find this particular color?

Thanks bunches!

-Laura

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At 07:38 AM 6/11/01 +0000, you wrote:

>    From: Siebel San <siebelsan@...>
>Subject: Just a bitch-session...
>
>I have discovered that, absolutely, completely, 100%
>without a doubt, brides are the most horrible people to
>work for...
>
>-Jessie
>

You need to trot over to my web page, www.etiquettehell.com, and get some
relief.  Perhaps your bridezilla is not quite as bad others enshrined in
the  web page.   Under the "Etiquette Humor " category is the real life
story of  bridesmaids' dresses gone terribly awry.  (Tara, your link to the
"Titanic Dress" story on the Costumers' Manifesto web page is incorrect, btw.)

I don't sew for weddings so I have no way to empathize with you but I am
gearing up to make three more Elizabethan/1620's Pilgrim costumes.  I
nearly ripped my hair out last year trying to fit the patterns to real life
people to achieve that tight fit of lined Elizabethan doublets.


For the person looking for a moss green wool substitute,  I made the above
mentioned late Elizabethan garments from a polyester blend fabric at
WalMart that looked exactly like light wool but only cost $7.00 a yard.  I
used a dark forest green for one skirt but they may have that fabric in
other shades of green as well.

Jeanne
"By yielding to a false form of civility, we sometimes allow our critics to
intimidate us."
Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas
---
jeanne@...

What sort of size is it?

-Laura

>
> Message: 5
>    Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:39:40 -0700 (PDT)
>    From: Siebel San <siebelsan@...>
> Subject: Costume for sale
>
>
>
> Hello all!
>
> Felt ambitious this afternoon and made a new Medieval
> Celtic dress.  This dress has a periwinkle-blue bodice that
> laces in the front and at the shoulders with silver
> eyelets, and a very full gathered skirt made of cotton
> (looks like wool!) plaid.  I am not sure if the plaid is an
> authentic family tartan, but it is checks of white and
> shades of blue with golden yellow lines.  Very beautiful
> plaid, not at all garish.  I'll try my best to get a
> picture online if anyone is interested.  This gown is not
> yet hemmed - I will hem to your specifications.  The bodice
> is fully lined and the entire gown is made of 100% cotton.
> There is only one raw edge on this dress (Where the skirt
> joins the bodice) and it is finished off with a zig-zag
> stitch.
>
> I will sell this dress for $60 or offer.  It is designed to
> be worn with a full-length chemise.  If desired, I'll make
> one for you to go with this dress for $30.  If interested,
> please contact me at PalaisGarnier@....
>
> Thanks!
> Jessie
>

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Aw jeez, knew I was forgetting something!  It was made to
fit a size 8, but because it laces, it will fit a size
6-10.  Sorry bout that!  I'll try to post a picture on
saturday.

> What sort of size is it?
>
> -Laura



> > Subject: Costume for sale
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello all!
> >
> > Felt ambitious this afternoon and made a new Medieval
> > Celtic dress.  This dress has a periwinkle-blue bodice
> that
> > laces in the front and at the shoulders with silver
> > eyelets, and a very full gathered skirt made of cotton
> > (looks like wool!) plaid.  I am not sure if the plaid
> is an
> > authentic family tartan, but it is checks of white and
> > shades of blue with golden yellow lines.  Very
> beautiful
> > plaid, not at all garish.  I'll try my best to get a
> > picture online if anyone is interested.  This gown is
> not
> > yet hemmed - I will hem to your specifications.  The
> bodice
> > is fully lined and the entire gown is made of 100%
> cotton.
> > There is only one raw edge on this dress (Where the
> skirt
> > joins the bodice) and it is finished off with a zig-zag
> > stitch.
> >
> > I will sell this dress for $60 or offer.  It is
> designed to
> > be worn with a full-length chemise.  If desired, I'll
> make
> > one for you to go with this dress for $30.  If
> interested,
> > please contact me at PalaisGarnier@....
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Jessie
> >


=====
"I would die for you." -Kevin Costner, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
  - - - - - - - - - -
"I've noticed that famous composers in particular hang on for a long time.  Deaf
as posts, most of them, when Death comes calling.  I expect some god somewhere
finds that very amusing.  It's their kind of a joke.*"

*And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't prevent composers from hearing
the music.  It prevents them from hearing the distractions.
  - - - - - - - - -
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I have some in my stash. I live in an area that has
several office furniture manafacturers I get roll ends
etc for $1.50 a yd. contact me if you want it.
Linda
--- GreyCat Designs <greycatdesigns@...> wrote:
> Hey all--
>
> Hope someone can help me! :)
>
> I'm in a real bind... I'm looking for about 4 1/2
> yards of wool in a moss green color (as seen in the
> cloak on this webpage:
> http://www.greycatdesigns.bigstep.com/catalog.html)
>
> I've found something similar for $15.00 a yard,
> which
> was more than I was hoping to pay.  Any thoughts as
> to
> where I might could find this particular color?
>
> Thanks bunches!
>
> -Laura
>
> =====
> GreyCat Designs (greycatdesigns@...)
>
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> http://www.greycatdesigns.com
>
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hmmmmmmm, what kind of answer is safest?  HA!

Actually, it's the name of the band I'm in - we have 3 singers who
all switch off lead, 2 girls & a guy, kinda like the Mommas & the
Poppas - hence the Triangle.

The rest of the inspiration I'll save until I know y'all better... ;-)

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Hi!
    I have found that Baer Fabrics in Louisville, Ky. are great for having a
lot of colors of just about everything. They send out swatches and I think
that I only paid for swatches the first time I used them after that they
never charged for the service again. Their phone number is 1-800-769-7776.
Their prices are not inexpensive but they almost always have what you want.
By the way, $15.00 a ydl for wool is really not all that expensive when
pendleton wool runs about $30.00 a yd. I don't like paying any more than I
have to either so a sale is the best I can usually do. Hope the number is a
help. Beck
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Topics in this digest:

       1. Just a bitch-session...
            From: Siebel San <siebelsan@...>
       2. Re: Just a bitch-session...
            From: linda craft <costumelady@...>
       3. RE: Just a bitch-session...
            From: "Lori Sharpsteen" <lsharp@...>
       4. Re: Just a bitch-session...
            From: Siebel San <siebelsan@...>
       5. Costume for sale
            From: Siebel San <siebelsan@...>
       6. Looking for wool in all the wrong places.....
            From: GreyCat Designs <greycatdesigns@...>


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Message: 1
    Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:21:05 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Siebel San <siebelsan@...>
Subject: Just a bitch-session...



I have discovered that, absolutely, completely, 100%
without a doubt, brides are the most horrible people to
work for...

-Jessie


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somewhere finds that very amusing.  It's their kind of a joke.*"

*And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't prevent composers from
hearing the music.  It prevents them from hearing the distractions.
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Message: 2
    Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:55:38 -0700 (PDT)
    From: linda craft <costumelady@...>
Subject: Re: Just a bitch-session...

I'm not too sure about that, or at least mothers of
the bride tie with brides!
--- Siebel San <siebelsan@...> wrote:
>
>
> I have discovered that, absolutely, completely, 100%
> without a doubt, brides are the most horrible people
> to
> work for...
>
> -Jessie
>
>
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> Prince of Thieves
>  - - - - - - - - - -
> "I've noticed that famous composers in particular
> hang on for a long time.  Deaf as posts, most of
> them, when Death comes calling.  I expect some god
> somewhere finds that very amusing.  It's their kind
> of a joke.*"
>
> *And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't
> prevent composers from hearing the music.  It
> prevents them from hearing the distractions.
>  - - - - - - - - -
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> what I have felt, there would be no more war, only
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Message: 3
    Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:18:19 -0500
    From: "Lori Sharpsteen" <lsharp@...>
Subject: RE: Just a bitch-session...

The bridesmaid who doesn't really want to be in the wedding and therefore
makes everything difficult (hates the dress, doesn't pay the deposit on
time, doesn't show for fittings until the day before the wedding...need I go
on?)is high on my list.

Lori Sharpsteen
www.battlefieldsandballrooms.net

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From: linda craft [mailto:costumelady@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 6:56 PM
To: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TheCostumersManifesto] Just a bitch-session...


I'm not too sure about that, or at least mothers of
the bride tie with brides!
--- Siebel San <siebelsan@...> wrote:
>
>
> I have discovered that, absolutely, completely, 100%
> without a doubt, brides are the most horrible people
> to
> work for...
>
> -Jessie
>
>
> =====
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> Prince of Thieves
>  - - - - - - - - - -
> "I've noticed that famous composers in particular
> hang on for a long time.  Deaf as posts, most of
> them, when Death comes calling.  I expect some god
> somewhere finds that very amusing.  It's their kind
> of a joke.*"
>
> *And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't
> prevent composers from hearing the music.  It
> prevents them from hearing the distractions.
>  - - - - - - - - -
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> what I have felt, there would be no more war, only
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Message: 4
    Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:22:39 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Siebel San <siebelsan@...>
Subject: Re: Just a bitch-session...


Teehee, thankfully I haven't had to deal with her mother
yet...But seriously!  Brides are insane!  She calls me
every other day to check up on progress, and last time she
came in for a fitting, she complained that part of the gown
didn't look EXACTLY like the picture and wants a complete
do-over (never mind that it won't look much different than
it does now!).  AAAAHH!  If I wasn't so poor I'd tell her
to bugger off, but ::sigh:: I'll probably be exactly the
same when I get married.

-Jessie

> I'm not too sure about that, or at least mothers of
> the bride tie with brides!
> --- Siebel San <siebelsan@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have discovered that, absolutely, completely, 100%
> > without a doubt, brides are the most horrible people
> > to
> > work for...
> >


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"I would die for you." -Kevin Costner, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
  - - - - - - - - - -
"I've noticed that famous composers in particular hang on for a long time.
Deaf as posts, most of them, when Death comes calling.  I expect some god
somewhere finds that very amusing.  It's their kind of a joke.*"

*And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't prevent composers from
hearing the music.  It prevents them from hearing the distractions.
  - - - - - - - - -
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Message: 5
    Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:39:40 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Siebel San <siebelsan@...>
Subject: Costume for sale



Hello all!

Felt ambitious this afternoon and made a new Medieval
Celtic dress.  This dress has a periwinkle-blue bodice that
laces in the front and at the shoulders with silver
eyelets, and a very full gathered skirt made of cotton
(looks like wool!) plaid.  I am not sure if the plaid is an
authentic family tartan, but it is checks of white and
shades of blue with golden yellow lines.  Very beautiful
plaid, not at all garish.  I'll try my best to get a
picture online if anyone is interested.  This gown is not
yet hemmed - I will hem to your specifications.  The bodice
is fully lined and the entire gown is made of 100% cotton.
There is only one raw edge on this dress (Where the skirt
joins the bodice) and it is finished off with a zig-zag
stitch.

I will sell this dress for $60 or offer.  It is designed to
be worn with a full-length chemise.  If desired, I'll make
one for you to go with this dress for $30.  If interested,
please contact me at PalaisGarnier@....

Thanks!
Jessie



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  - - - - - - - - - -
"I've noticed that famous composers in particular hang on for a long time.
Deaf as posts, most of them, when Death comes calling.  I expect some god
somewhere finds that very amusing.  It's their kind of a joke.*"

*And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't prevent composers from
hearing the music.  It prevents them from hearing the distractions.
  - - - - - - - - -
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Message: 6
    Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:29:38 -0700 (PDT)
    From: GreyCat Designs <greycatdesigns@...>
Subject: Looking for wool in all the wrong places.....

Hey all--

Hope someone can help me! :)

I'm in a real bind... I'm looking for about 4 1/2
yards of wool in a moss green color (as seen in the
cloak on this webpage:
http://www.greycatdesigns.bigstep.com/catalog.html)

I've found something similar for $15.00 a yard, which
was more than I was hoping to pay.  Any thoughts as to
where I might could find this particular color?

Thanks bunches!

-Laura

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Not necessarily...I work with alot of brides and 9 out
of 10 are great.  Of course, I think it depends on the
type of wedding you are planning.  Modern brides are a
bitch, but I do period weddings and every one of my
brides have been great (and yes, I've done more that
2).  When you get into that situation, you need to
stand firm and let them understand that you are the
seamstress.  You are the professional here.

I've also discovered that not answering the phone
helps tremendously....



> >I have discovered that, absolutely, completely,
> 100%
> >without a doubt, brides are the most horrible
> people to
> >work for...
> >
> >-Jessie
> >

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I have a "policy" that I have the brides sign when I
agree to sew their weddings.  It basically states that
I make fittings as convient as possible, but if the
wearer does not participate in the fittings, I am not
responsible for the fit of the garment.  It save me
hassle in the long run in dealing with pains in the
butt...



--- Lori Sharpsteen <lsharp@...> wrote:
> The bridesmaid who doesn't really want to be in the
> wedding and therefore
> makes everything difficult (hates the dress, doesn't
> pay the deposit on
> time, doesn't show for fittings until the day before
> the wedding...need I go
> on?)is high on my list.



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From: Love3angle

To: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:23 PM

Subject: [TheCostumersManifesto] Re: Hello Costumers!

hmmmmmmm, what kind of answer is safest?  HA! 

Actually, it's the name of the band I'm in - we have 3 singers who
all switch off lead, 2 girls & a guy, kinda like the Mommas & the
Poppas - hence the Triangle.

The rest of the inspiration I'll save until I know y'all better... ;-)

LoveTriangle


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>   Subject: [TheCostumersManifesto] Hello Costumers!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Johnston [mailto:sewknightly@...]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:22 PM
To: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [TheCostumersManifesto] Just a bitch-session...

I have a "policy" that I have the brides sign when I
agree to sew their weddings.  It basically states that
I make fittings as convient as possible, but if the
wearer does not participate in the fittings, I am not
responsible for the fit of the garment.  It save me
hassle in the long run in dealing with pains in the
butt...



--- Lori Sharpsteen <lsharp@...> wrote:
> The bridesmaid who doesn't really want to be in the
> wedding and therefore
> makes everything difficult (hates the dress, doesn't
> pay the deposit on
> time, doesn't show for fittings until the day before
> the wedding...need I go
> on?)is high on my list.



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Sew Knightly

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> Not necessarily...I work with alot of brides and 9 out
> of 10 are great.  Of course, I think it depends on the
> type of wedding you are planning.  Modern brides are a
> bitch, but I do period weddings and every one of my
> brides have been great (and yes, I've done more that
> 2).  When you get into that situation, you need to
> stand firm and let them understand that you are the
> seamstress.  You are the professional here.
>
> I've also discovered that not answering the phone
> helps tremendously.... <----- LOL!!!!

Caller ID is a nice thing too, when the freakin box
actually works...
>
This one wants a renaissance gown made of heavy velvet.
Ten bucks says she'll complain it's too heavy after the
dress is finished.

-Jessie

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  - - - - - - - - - -
"I've noticed that famous composers in particular hang on for a long time.  Deaf
as posts, most of them, when Death comes calling.  I expect some god somewhere
finds that very amusing.  It's their kind of a joke.*"

*And course, one that misfires.  Deafness doesn't prevent composers from hearing
the music.  It prevents them from hearing the distractions.
  - - - - - - - - -
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would be no more war, only love.”  -MLC

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