Good day to all.

I've come out of lurk mode, hoping some kind souls out there can offer me some
bits of helpful advice.

I've been asked to get involved with a group of science fiction/Star Wars/Star
Trek fans who are about to start on a year long adventure of attending as many
conventions and events as they can all over the world. They will also be making
an independent film about their adventures. As you might guess, they want
costumes that can stand up to packing, traveling and lots of wearing. Most of
their requests, I'm good to go with, but I need some help with the Star Wars
stuff. I don't have the luxury of much research time and while I'm a fan, I've
never been into it enough to have the knowledge base I find I need for this
project.

Would anyone have personal experience (a favorite pattern used, perhaps? I can
alter well, but my drafting skills are not the greatest) or website/group
suggestions to share? Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly
scattered and difficult to sift through. I'm thinking Jedi robes are the best
choice for what they need, but it would still be easier if I had better base
info. And possibly sources for boots and props that I won't be able to make from
scratch as well.

Thank you in advance for any ideas or leads. I'm most grateful.

Cheers!

Hi mongrelmuppet, I hope you don't mind but I've forwarded your request to my
local Costumers Guild. I think between their members they have attended Every
Science Fiction Convention Ever Held *lol* If anyone can offer assistance it
would be them..

=^.^=

"If a man could be crossed with a cat,
It would improve the man,
but it would deteriorate the cat."
Mark Twain
Please note that Mark Twain specified
that the cross would improve the MAN,
no need to include women in that.
Women and cats are perfect as is.

--- On Mon, 6/1/09, mongrelmuppet <mongrelmuppet@...> wrote:


From: mongrelmuppet <mongrelmuppet@...>
Subject: [TheCostumersManifesto] Star Wars costumes
To: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 3:31 PM








Good day to all.

I've come out of lurk mode, hoping some kind souls out there can offer me some
bits of helpful advice.

I've been asked to get involved with a group of science fiction/Star Wars/Star
Trek fans who are about to start on a year long adventure of attending as many
conventions and events as they can all over the world. They will also be making
an independent film about their adventures. As you might guess, they want
costumes that can stand up to packing, traveling and lots of wearing. Most of
their requests, I'm good to go with, but I need some help with the Star Wars
stuff. I don't have the luxury of much research time and while I'm a fan, I've
never been into it enough to have the knowledge base I find I need for this
project.

Would anyone have personal experience (a favorite pattern used, perhaps? I can
alter well, but my drafting skills are not the greatest) or website/group
suggestions to share? Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly
scattered and difficult to sift through. I'm thinking Jedi robes are the best
choice for what they need, but it would still be easier if I had better base
info. And possibly sources for boots and props that I won't be able to make from
scratch as well.

Thank you in advance for any ideas or leads. I'm most grateful.

Cheers!



















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Try this website: www.alleycatscratch.com  They research lots of movie costumes.
Jess




________________________________
From: mongrelmuppet <mongrelmuppet@...>
To: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 3:31:14 PM
Subject: [TheCostumersManifesto] Star Wars costumes





Good day to all.

I've come out of lurk mode, hoping some kind souls out there can offer me some
bits of helpful advice.

I've been asked to get involved with a group of science fiction/Star Wars/Star
Trek fans who are about to start on a year long adventure of attending as many
conventions and events as they can all over the world. They will also be making
an independent film about their adventures. As you might guess, they want
costumes that can stand up to packing, traveling and lots of wearing. Most of
their requests, I'm good to go with, but I need some help with the Star Wars
stuff. I don't have the luxury of much research time and while I'm a fan, I've
never been into it enough to have the knowledge base I find I need for this
project.

Would anyone have personal experience (a favorite pattern used, perhaps? I can
alter well, but my drafting skills are not the greatest) or website/group
suggestions to share? Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly
scattered and difficult to sift through. I'm thinking Jedi robes are the best
choice for what they need, but it would still be easier if I had better base
info. And possibly sources for boots and props that I won't be able to make from
scratch as well.

Thank you in advance for any ideas or leads. I'm most grateful.

Cheers!







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>>>>>Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly scattered and
difficult to sift through<<<<<
 
Sounds like she's already hit that alleycatscratch site. I've been on that site
a few times myself and whereas it'a true that there is a ton of information, I
find it almost impossible to decipher.


=^.^=

"If a man could be crossed with a cat,
It would improve the man,
but it would deteriorate the cat."
Mark Twain
Please note that Mark Twain specified
that the cross would improve the MAN,
no need to include women in that.
Women and cats are perfect as is.

--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jessica Cowan <faerie_trash@...> wrote:


From: Jessica Cowan <faerie_trash@...>
Subject: Re: [TheCostumersManifesto] Star Wars costumes
To: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 8:37 PM








Try this website: www.alleycatscratch .com  They research lots of movie
costumes.
Jess

____________ _________ _________ __
From: mongrelmuppet <mongrelmuppet@ gmail.com>
To: TheCostumersManifes to@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 3:31:14 PM
Subject: [TheCostumersManife sto] Star Wars costumes

Good day to all.

I've come out of lurk mode, hoping some kind souls out there can offer me some
bits of helpful advice.

I've been asked to get involved with a group of science fiction/Star Wars/Star
Trek fans who are about to start on a year long adventure of attending as many
conventions and events as they can all over the world. They will also be making
an independent film about their adventures. As you might guess, they want
costumes that can stand up to packing, traveling and lots of wearing. Most of
their requests, I'm good to go with, but I need some help with the Star Wars
stuff. I don't have the luxury of much research time and while I'm a fan, I've
never been into it enough to have the knowledge base I find I need for this
project.

Would anyone have personal experience (a favorite pattern used, perhaps? I can
alter well, but my drafting skills are not the greatest) or website/group
suggestions to share? Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly
scattered and difficult to sift through. I'm thinking Jedi robes are the best
choice for what they need, but it would still be easier if I had better base
info. And possibly sources for boots and props that I won't be able to make from
scratch as well.

Thank you in advance for any ideas or leads. I'm most grateful.

Cheers!

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My friend tried to post this and it didn't go through. My guess is that she has
to be a member of the Yahoo Group to post so I'm forwarding this along on her
behalf.
 
Thanks Jill!

=^.^=

"If a man could be crossed with a cat,
It would improve the man,
but it would deteriorate the cat."
Mark Twain
Please note that Mark Twain specified
that the cross would improve the MAN,
no need to include women in that.
Women and cats are perfect as is.

--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jill Eastlake <jill@...> wrote:


From: Jill Eastlake <jill@...>
Subject: Re: [n03l] Re: [TheCostumersManifesto] Star Wars costumes
To: "Northern Lights Costumers Guild" <n03l@...>
Cc: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 11:33 PM


Hi,

The largest group of Star Wars fans I'm aware of is called the 501st
(five-oh-first). 501st.com.

Good luck!

Jill



On Jun 1, 2009, at 8:03 PM, Kat Hannon wrote:

Hi mongrelmuppet, I hope you don't mind but I've forwarded your request to my
local Costumers Guild. I think between their members they have attended Every
Science Fiction Convention Ever Held *lol* If anyone can offer assistance it
would be them..

=^.^=

"If a man could be crossed with a cat,
It would improve the man,
but it would deteriorate the cat."
Mark Twain
Please note that Mark Twain specified
that the cross would improve the MAN,
no need to include women in that.
Women and cats are perfect as is.

--- On Mon, 6/1/09, mongrelmuppet <mongrelmuppet@...> wrote:

From: mongrelmuppet <mongrelmuppet@...>
Subject: [TheCostumersManifesto] Star Wars costumes
To: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 3:31 PM



Good day to all.

I've come out of lurk mode, hoping some kind souls out there can offer me some
bits of helpful advice.

I've been asked to get involved with a group of science fiction/Star Wars/Star
Trek fans who are about to start on a year long adventure of attending as many
conventions and events as they can all over the world. They will also be making
an independent film about their adventures. As you might guess, they want
costumes that can stand up to packing, traveling and lots of wearing. Most of
their requests, I'm good to go with, but I need some help with the Star Wars
stuff. I don't have the luxury of much research time and while I'm a fan, I've
never been into it enough to have the knowledge base I find I need for this
project.

Would anyone have personal experience (a favorite pattern used, perhaps? I can
alter well, but my drafting skills are not the greatest) or website/group
suggestions to share? Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly
scattered and difficult to sift through. I'm thinking Jedi robes are the best
choice for what they need, but it would still be easier if I had better base
info. And possibly sources for boots and props that I won't be able to make from
scratch as well.

Thank you in advance for any ideas or leads. I'm most grateful.

Cheers!



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Do you want to build them? Simplicity has several. View them at
http://www.wookieehut.com/art/simplicitypatterns.html  The envelopes have
details on how to achieve the look.

I found it really helpful when doing Lord of the Rings costumes ::shrug::
Jess




________________________________
From: Kat Hannon <lotsakats1@...>
To: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 11:54:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TheCostumersManifesto] Star Wars costumes





>>>>>Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly scattered and
difficult to sift through<<<<<
 
Sounds like she's already hit that alleycatscratch site. I've been on that site
a few times myself and whereas it'a true that there is a ton of information, I
find it almost impossible to decipher.

=^.^=

"If a man could be crossed with a cat,
It would improve the man,
but it would deteriorate the cat."
Mark Twain
Please note that Mark Twain specified
that the cross would improve the MAN,
no need to include women in that.
Women and cats are perfect as is.

--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jessica Cowan <faerie_trash@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Jessica Cowan <faerie_trash@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TheCostumersManife sto] Star Wars costumes
To: TheCostumersManifes to@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 8:37 PM

Try this website: www.alleycatscratch .com  They research lots of movie
costumes.
Jess

____________ _________ _________ __
From: mongrelmuppet <mongrelmuppet@ gmail.com>
To: TheCostumersManifes to@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 3:31:14 PM
Subject: [TheCostumersManife sto] Star Wars costumes

Good day to all.

I've come out of lurk mode, hoping some kind souls out there can offer me some
bits of helpful advice.

I've been asked to get involved with a group of science fiction/Star Wars/Star
Trek fans who are about to start on a year long adventure of attending as many
conventions and events as they can all over the world. They will also be making
an independent film about their adventures. As you might guess, they want
costumes that can stand up to packing, traveling and lots of wearing. Most of
their requests, I'm good to go with, but I need some help with the Star Wars
stuff. I don't have the luxury of much research time and while I'm a fan, I've
never been into it enough to have the knowledge base I find I need for this
project.

Would anyone have personal experience (a favorite pattern used, perhaps? I can
alter well, but my drafting skills are not the greatest) or website/group
suggestions to share? Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly
scattered and difficult to sift through. I'm thinking Jedi robes are the best
choice for what they need, but it would still be easier if I had better base
info. And possibly sources for boots and props that I won't be able to make from
scratch as well.

Thank you in advance for any ideas or leads. I'm most grateful.

Cheers!

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The other Costume Group I'm affiliated with used it for Lord of the Rings also.
But I let someone else do all that research, there was just wat too much to sift
through.
 
But then again it's probably just me, I have the same trouble if I try to find
something on Ebay. Too much information of the kind I'm NOT looking for can make
my head explode sometimes.
 
=^.^=

"If a man could be crossed with a cat,
It would improve the man,
but it would deteriorate the cat."
Mark Twain
Please note that Mark Twain specified
that the cross would improve the MAN,
no need to include women in that.
Women and cats are perfect as is.

--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Jessica Cowan <faerie_trash@...> wrote:


From: Jessica Cowan <faerie_trash@...>
Subject: Re: [TheCostumersManifesto] Star Wars costumes
To: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 12:06 PM








I found it really helpful when doing Lord of the Rings costumes ::shrug::
Jess

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Kat Hannon <lotsakats1@yahoo. com>
To: TheCostumersManifes to@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 11:54:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TheCostumersManife sto] Star Wars costumes

>>>>>Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly scattered and
difficult to sift through<<<<<
 
Sounds like she's already hit that alleycatscratch site. I've been on that site
a few times myself and whereas it'a true that there is a ton of information, I
find it almost impossible to decipher.

=^.^=

"If a man could be crossed with a cat,
It would improve the man,
but it would deteriorate the cat."
Mark Twain
Please note that Mark Twain specified
that the cross would improve the MAN,
no need to include women in that.
Women and cats are perfect as is.

--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jessica Cowan <faerie_trash@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Jessica Cowan <faerie_trash@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TheCostumersManife sto] Star Wars costumes
To: TheCostumersManifes to@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 8:37 PM

Try this website: www.alleycatscratch .com  They research lots of movie
costumes.
Jess

____________ _________ _________ __
From: mongrelmuppet <mongrelmuppet@ gmail.com>
To: TheCostumersManifes to@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 3:31:14 PM
Subject: [TheCostumersManife sto] Star Wars costumes

Good day to all.

I've come out of lurk mode, hoping some kind souls out there can offer me some
bits of helpful advice.

I've been asked to get involved with a group of science fiction/Star Wars/Star
Trek fans who are about to start on a year long adventure of attending as many
conventions and events as they can all over the world. They will also be making
an independent film about their adventures. As you might guess, they want
costumes that can stand up to packing, traveling and lots of wearing. Most of
their requests, I'm good to go with, but I need some help with the Star Wars
stuff. I don't have the luxury of much research time and while I'm a fan, I've
never been into it enough to have the knowledge base I find I need for this
project.

Would anyone have personal experience (a favorite pattern used, perhaps? I can
alter well, but my drafting skills are not the greatest) or website/group
suggestions to share? Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly
scattered and difficult to sift through. I'm thinking Jedi robes are the best
choice for what they need, but it would still be easier if I had better base
info. And possibly sources for boots and props that I won't be able to make from
scratch as well.

Thank you in advance for any ideas or leads. I'm most grateful.

Cheers!

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Yes, I plan to build them. I haven't seen anything pre-made that won't be
laughed right out of a convention hall. Or that is within our budget.

I had just found these, thanks to another kind suggestion from another group
member. Unfortunately, they are all out of print for several years and if you
can find them on the web, they are crazy expensive. I've got a bid in on the
men's pattern on EBAY, but so far, I've been seeing these go for much higher
than my clients can afford. From several other suggestions I've received so far,
these are a good place to start, but require some modifying to come up to the
standard I will need. I'm still open to other suggestions, in case I can't lay
my hands on this one.

Thank you!

--- In TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com, "catslave54" <zimmermanel@...>
wrote:
>
> Do you want to build them? Simplicity has several. View them at
http://www.wookieehut.com/art/simplicitypatterns.html  The envelopes have
details on how to achieve the look.
>

JUNE 13th 7 am -12noon Community yard sale ( i am selling costume bits and bobs
fabric,trim costume jewelry un styled wigs and more) others will sell other
stuff.. I am not sure how many people are participating
cash or credit cards accepted by us only..

directions to VISTA MONTE condos oceanside CA please e-mail me
makingyourdreamcometrue@...
IF you cannot make it that day i am happy to see you by appt another day!

ALSO A STEAMPUNK CIRCUS GROUP AND OTHERS.....
EVENT in san diego

http://sushiart.org/

Well, I think I may have worked it all out, thanks to the replies here and the
private messages I received and my own stubborn streak. I wanted to be sure and
say a proper thank you to all who took the time to chime in and give me a
direction to follow. Your efforts were most appreciated! :)

And if anyone is curious, I didn't find a Holy Grail of info, but several folks
suggested specific organizations and contacts and by following those I found
some enthusiasts who were very willing to share their personal experiences. I've
since been able to lay my hands on several of the base patterns and have the
instructions I need for modifying them to meet my client's needs. Whoo hoo! Now
I'm on a fabric hunt and a deadline, with a pay check and a credit "carrot" at
the end of the tunnel. Thank you all again!

I believe there is a big costume collection at the University of Wisconsin in
Milwaukee with many items from the Victorian era. 
 
Otherwise the Kyoto Institute in Japan has a fabulous collection and I believe
most of it is online.
 
Laura, MN

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-
>
> As a historical reenactor and interpreter in museums, I know for the
> Victorian era, especially in the midwest, finding extant references to
> actually look at, is difficult.  Does anyone know of any collections, either
> museum, university or private, that has decent clothing preserved from that
> time period?  Most of the museums I've worked at roughly dated between late
> 1860s (post Civil War)-1920.  We occasionally would have books that would
> talk about fabrics available, patterns typical of the period, button styles,
> etc. but to actually SEE the peices and look at construction even from a few
> inches away and glass between us and it would have been so useful.  We
> dressed in everything from formal day attire to the workingman/woman's
> clothes.
>
>

You might look into Kent State University Museum in Kent OH, southeast of
Cleveland.
  http://cleveland.about.com/od/fashion/p/ksumuseum.htm

They have extensive collections, including Victorian fashions.
Martha Pullen, the "queen" of modern heirloom sewing, wrote a two volume book on
their Victorian fashions, and another one on Children's Fashions from the
Victorian period based on her own and other's collections of vintage baby
clothes. http://www.marthapullen.com/books/kentstate/
http://www.marthapullen.com/books/kentstate2/index.html
http://www.marthapullen.com/books/vintagebaby/
Tess

I have a bolt of white supplex synthetic four-way stretch that I've been
using for leotard lining (great stuff). I'd like to dye a batch of it to use
for second skins and dance underwear, but I'm a noob at dyeing anything
besides tea-staining shoulder elastics. What's my best bet for a good beige
flesh-tone dye?



Thanks,

Marnie



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In Southeast PA there's:

> http://www.allentownartmuseum.org/exhibitions/fashion.html

Also,

http://www2.fi.edu/startrek/index.html

Happy trails....



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I'm seeking some advice, please.  In the great listing of UK costume museums and
collections here --

http://www.costumes.org/history/100pages/museelnx.htm#UK

-- or any others you know about, for that matter, which would you recommend? 
I've already seen the V&A costume collection, Bath Museum of Costume, Museum of
London, York Castle Museum, and Kensington Palace costumes.  London or vicinity
would be easiest to get to, but I might be able to make a field trip or two out
of town, especially if it's a really major collection.  I just enjoy looking at
costumes -- I'm not a scholar or researcher.  Killerton and Berrington Hall both
sound good, but they're a bit far for a day trip.  If I can manage one, which
would you recommend?

Thank you!

Anna M.C.

http://www.bustledress.com/cgi-bin/z.pl/index.html

"We used non-run poly/lycra snippets  (1 inch square - ish)  of
different coloured or printed fabric for every characters' pieces and
items right from the fabric stage, through the run. The actors
learned their colour / pattern and that became the labelling"

I've dressed at a theatre that has an arsenal of brightly colored ribbons in the
wardrobe room - sometimes they are a solid color, sometimes they have a pattern.
The ribbons are great for labelling all laundry, the actors get to know their
ribbon (there is also a cheat sheet posted in the wardrobe room). Ribbons can be
bought cheaply and locally whenever they are on clearance. This particular
theatre had more than one space, and more than one show running concurrently, so
ribbons would be bought in sets (all the polka dots for one show, all the
stripes for the other). This worked with our relatively small casts, it might
get tricky if you are talking "casts of thousands", like a big musical. For big
shows I've always seen numbers assigned - then laundry gets labelled by sets (if
you have duplicates, or even a third set, each set has a color). Numbers painted
on the ribbon in fabric paint or puff paint are more visible and permanent than
a sharpie or
  fabric marker.





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I used Simplicity 5840 View C to make a simple Jedi costume for a young cousin. 
Since it only came in adult sizes, I had to redraft the pattern to a child's
size, but it wasn't too difficult since much of the pattern was based on simple
shapes.  As I recall, it was a pretty easy pattern to follow.  I used a
different pant pattern because I already had one in his size.

Not sure how accurate it is, but it came out fine and my cousin enjoyed wearing
it.

Marge


> Would anyone have personal experience (a favorite pattern used, perhaps? I can
alter well, but my drafting skills are not the greatest) or website/group
suggestions to share?

the 501st is the official costuming group of star wars(they do alot of
charities) you have to have an Imperial Costume(officer, stormtrooper or sith
lord) there's also the rebel legion(good guys etc).

For specific type costumes(like boba fett etc) there are sites dedicated
directly for that costume.

--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Kat Hannon <lotsakats1@...> wrote:

From: Kat Hannon <lotsakats1@...>
Subject: Re: [n03l] Re: [TheCostumersManifesto] Star Wars costumes
To: "Northern Lights Costumers Guild" <n03l@...>
Cc: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 10:51 AM

















       My friend tried to post this and it didn't go through. My guess is that
she has to be a member of the Yahoo Group to post so I'm forwarding this along
on her behalf.

 

Thanks Jill!



=^.^=



"If a man could be crossed with a cat,

It would improve the man,

but it would deteriorate the cat."

Mark Twain

Please note that Mark Twain specified

that the cross would improve the MAN,

no need to include women in that.

Women and cats are perfect as is.



--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jill Eastlake <jill@pothole. com> wrote:



From: Jill Eastlake <jill@pothole. com>

Subject: Re: [n03l] Re: [TheCostumersManife sto] Star Wars costumes

To: "Northern Lights Costumers Guild" <n03l@pothole. com>

Cc: TheCostumersManifes to@yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 11:33 PM



Hi,



The largest group of Star Wars fans I'm aware of is called the 501st
(five-oh-first) . 501st.com.



Good luck!



Jill



On Jun 1, 2009, at 8:03 PM, Kat Hannon wrote:



Hi mongrelmuppet, I hope you don't mind but I've forwarded your request to my
local Costumers Guild. I think between their members they have attended Every
Science Fiction Convention Ever Held *lol* If anyone can offer assistance it
would be them..



=^.^=



"If a man could be crossed with a cat,

It would improve the man,

but it would deteriorate the cat."

Mark Twain

Please note that Mark Twain specified

that the cross would improve the MAN,

no need to include women in that.

Women and cats are perfect as is.



--- On Mon, 6/1/09, mongrelmuppet <mongrelmuppet@ gmail.com> wrote:



From: mongrelmuppet <mongrelmuppet@ gmail.com>

Subject: [TheCostumersManife sto] Star Wars costumes

To: TheCostumersManifes to@yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 3:31 PM



Good day to all.



I've come out of lurk mode, hoping some kind souls out there can offer me some
bits of helpful advice.



I've been asked to get involved with a group of science fiction/Star Wars/Star
Trek fans who are about to start on a year long adventure of attending as many
conventions and events as they can all over the world. They will also be making
an independent film about their adventures. As you might guess, they want
costumes that can stand up to packing, traveling and lots of wearing. Most of
their requests, I'm good to go with, but I need some help with the Star Wars
stuff. I don't have the luxury of much research time and while I'm a fan, I've
never been into it enough to have the knowledge base I find I need for this
project.



Would anyone have personal experience (a favorite pattern used, perhaps? I can
alter well, but my drafting skills are not the greatest) or website/group
suggestions to share? Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly
scattered and difficult to sift through. I'm thinking Jedi robes are the best
choice for what they need, but it would still be easier if I had better base
info. And possibly sources for boots and props that I won't be able to make from
scratch as well.



Thank you in advance for any ideas or leads. I'm most grateful.



Cheers!



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Try here:  http://www.padawansguide.com/

Choose your character first and then you can see what the patterns were and
other information.  Lots of photos and links.  Frequently offers suggestions on
patterns you can alter.



--- In TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com, "mongrelmuppet"
<mongrelmuppet@...> wrote:
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> Yes, I plan to build them. I haven't seen anything pre-made that won't be
laughed right out of a convention hall. Or that is within our budget.
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> I had just found these, thanks to another kind suggestion from another group
member. Unfortunately, they are all out of print for several years and if you
can find them on the web, they are crazy expensive. I've got a bid in on the
men's pattern on EBAY, but so far, I've been seeing these go for much higher
than my clients can afford. From several other suggestions I've received so far,
these are a good place to start, but require some modifying to come up to the
standard I will need. I'm still open to other suggestions, in case I can't lay
my hands on this one.
>
> Thank you!
>
> --- In TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com, "catslave54" <zimmermanel@>
wrote:
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> > Do you want to build them? Simplicity has several. View them at
http://www.wookieehut.com/art/simplicitypatterns.html  The envelopes have
details on how to achieve the look.
> >
>

I posted a reply earlier this morning, and it looks like it didn't go through
either! So here it is again, and apologies if it's a double-posting.

This page has some good illustrations and pattern suggestions:
http://www.padawansguide.com/robe.shtml

I have used some African-type sewing patterns in the past for Jedi clothing, but
I think they are long out of print.

Hope this helps!
Rebecca


--- In TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com, "mongrelmuppet"
<mongrelmuppet@...> wrote:
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> Good day to all.
>
> I've come out of lurk mode, hoping some kind souls out there can offer me some
bits of helpful advice.
>
> I've been asked to get involved with a group of science fiction/Star Wars/Star
Trek fans who are about to start on a year long adventure of attending as many
conventions and events as they can all over the world. They will also be making
an independent film about their adventures. As you might guess, they want
costumes that can stand up to packing, traveling and lots of wearing. Most of
their requests, I'm good to go with, but I need some help with the Star Wars
stuff. I don't have the luxury of much research time and while I'm a fan, I've
never been into it enough to have the knowledge base I find I need for this
project.
>
> Would anyone have personal experience (a favorite pattern used, perhaps? I can
alter well, but my drafting skills are not the greatest) or website/group
suggestions to share? Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly
scattered and difficult to sift through. I'm thinking Jedi robes are the best
choice for what they need, but it would still be easier if I had better base
info. And possibly sources for boots and props that I won't be able to make from
scratch as well.
>
> Thank you in advance for any ideas or leads. I'm most grateful.
>
> Cheers!
>

Check out: http://www.padawansguide.com/

She has tons of info on all sorts of Star Wars costumes.

If anyone in your group is interested in doing the bounty hunter costumes go
here:

http://www.thedentedhelmet.com - tons of info & pics.

Let me know if you want some more info. I've been an avid SW costumer since
2003.

Julie



--- In TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com, "mongrelmuppet"
<mongrelmuppet@...> wrote:
>
> Good day to all.
>
> I've come out of lurk mode, hoping some kind souls out there can offer me some
bits of helpful advice.
>
> I've been asked to get involved with a group of science fiction/Star Wars/Star
Trek fans who are about to start on a year long adventure of attending as many
conventions and events as they can all over the world. They will also be making
an independent film about their adventures. As you might guess, they want
costumes that can stand up to packing, traveling and lots of wearing. Most of
their requests, I'm good to go with, but I need some help with the Star Wars
stuff. I don't have the luxury of much research time and while I'm a fan, I've
never been into it enough to have the knowledge base I find I need for this
project.
>
> Would anyone have personal experience (a favorite pattern used, perhaps? I can
alter well, but my drafting skills are not the greatest) or website/group
suggestions to share? Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly
scattered and difficult to sift through. I'm thinking Jedi robes are the best
choice for what they need, but it would still be easier if I had better base
info. And possibly sources for boots and props that I won't be able to make from
scratch as well.
>
> Thank you in advance for any ideas or leads. I'm most grateful.
>
> Cheers!
>

Thank you for the suggestion, but I have indeed found alleycatscratch. I've used
them mainly for LOTR research, which they excel at, but for Star Wars? Not so
much.
I've also hit Padawan's Guide and Amber's Jedi Meditation Center and a few of
the forum boards like Jedi Council etc. I just keep thinking there has to be a
"golden" source or two out there that I'm missing somehow. I've never had
trouble finding good solid info for most of my other sci-fi endeavors, but then,
the ones I have attempted have all been things I've been very knowledgeable in
myself. And if any of you have ever worked with sci-fi fans, you know they are
easily the equivalent of SCA folk--they can get very very picky about
"accuracy." (And I mean no disrespect by that. I AM one of those people myself
to a certain degree.) My clients themselves are not so worried about this
aspect, but they also need to interact with folk who are, and they can't look
like they just pulled any old thing off the discount Halloween rack at Wal-mart.
Plus, if this thing actually goes as far as they plan to take it, I could end up
with a nice little credit for my resume, or at least a bit more word of mouth
business.


--- In TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com, Kat Hannon <lotsakats1@...> wrote:
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> >>>>>Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly scattered and
difficult to sift through<<<<<
>  
> Sounds like she's already hit that alleycatscratch site. I've been on that
site a few times myself and whereas it'a true that there is a ton of
information, I find it almost impossible to decipher.
>
>
> =^.^=
>
> "If a man could be crossed with a cat,
> It would improve the man,
> but it would deteriorate the cat."
> Mark Twain
> Please note that Mark Twain specified
> that the cross would improve the MAN,
> no need to include women in that.
> Women and cats are perfect as is.
>
> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jessica Cowan <faerie_trash@...> wrote:
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> From: Jessica Cowan <faerie_trash@...>
> Subject: Re: [TheCostumersManifesto] Star Wars costumes
> To: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 8:37 PM
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> Try this website: www.alleycatscratch .com  They research lots of movie
costumes.
> Jess
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> From: mongrelmuppet <mongrelmuppet@ gmail.com>
> To: TheCostumersManifes to@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 3:31:14 PM
> Subject: [TheCostumersManife sto] Star Wars costumes
>
> Good day to all.
>
> I've come out of lurk mode, hoping some kind souls out there can offer me some
bits of helpful advice.
>
> I've been asked to get involved with a group of science fiction/Star Wars/Star
Trek fans who are about to start on a year long adventure of attending as many
conventions and events as they can all over the world. They will also be making
an independent film about their adventures. As you might guess, they want
costumes that can stand up to packing, traveling and lots of wearing. Most of
their requests, I'm good to go with, but I need some help with the Star Wars
stuff. I don't have the luxury of much research time and while I'm a fan, I've
never been into it enough to have the knowledge base I find I need for this
project.
>
> Would anyone have personal experience (a favorite pattern used, perhaps? I can
alter well, but my drafting skills are not the greatest) or website/group
suggestions to share? Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly
scattered and difficult to sift through. I'm thinking Jedi robes are the best
choice for what they need, but it would still be easier if I had better base
info. And possibly sources for boots and props that I won't be able to make from
scratch as well.
>
> Thank you in advance for any ideas or leads. I'm most grateful.
>
> Cheers!
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This page has some good illustrations and pattern suggestions:
http://www.padawansguide.com/robe.shtml

I have used some African-type sewing patterns in the past for Jedi clothing,
but I think they are long out of print.

Hope this helps!
Rebecca


2009/6/1 mongrelmuppet <mongrelmuppet@...>
>
>   Good day to all.
>
> I've come out of lurk mode, hoping some kind souls out there can offer me
> some bits of helpful advice.
>
> I've been asked to get involved with a group of science fiction/Star
> Wars/Star Trek fans who are about to start on a year long adventure of
> attending as many conventions and events as they can all over the world.
> They will also be making an independent film about their adventures. As you
> might guess, they want costumes that can stand up to packing, traveling and
> lots of wearing. Most of their requests, I'm good to go with, but I need
> some help with the Star Wars stuff. I don't have the luxury of much research
> time and while I'm a fan, I've never been into it enough to have the
> knowledge base I find I need for this project.
>
> Would anyone have personal experience (a favorite pattern used, perhaps? I
> can alter well, but my drafting skills are not the greatest) or
> website/group suggestions to share? Most of what I've found on the web so
> far is incredibly scattered and difficult to sift through. I'm thinking Jedi
> robes are the best choice for what they need, but it would still be easier
> if I had better base info. And possibly sources for boots and props that I
> won't be able to make from scratch as well.
>
> Thank you in advance for any ideas or leads. I'm most grateful.
>
> Cheers!
>
>


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Mind? No! Not at all! That's great. Most of my local contacts were of no help
with this particular project, being more of the historical re-enactment and less
of the futuristic or movie type. A costumer's guild that's into sci-fi could be
exactly what I need. I'll look forward to their suggestions. Thanks!

--- In TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com, Kat Hannon <lotsakats1@...> wrote:
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> Hi mongrelmuppet, I hope you don't mind but I've forwarded your request to my
local Costumers Guild. I think between their members they have attended Every
Science Fiction Convention Ever Held *lol* If anyone can offer assistance it
would be them..
>
> =^.^=
>
> "If a man could be crossed with a cat,
> It would improve the man,
> but it would deteriorate the cat."
> Mark Twain
> Please note that Mark Twain specified
> that the cross would improve the MAN,
> no need to include women in that.
> Women and cats are perfect as is.
>
> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, mongrelmuppet <mongrelmuppet@...> wrote:
>
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> From: mongrelmuppet <mongrelmuppet@...>
> Subject: [TheCostumersManifesto] Star Wars costumes
> To: TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 3:31 PM
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> Good day to all.
>
> I've come out of lurk mode, hoping some kind souls out there can offer me some
bits of helpful advice.
>
> I've been asked to get involved with a group of science fiction/Star Wars/Star
Trek fans who are about to start on a year long adventure of attending as many
conventions and events as they can all over the world. They will also be making
an independent film about their adventures. As you might guess, they want
costumes that can stand up to packing, traveling and lots of wearing. Most of
their requests, I'm good to go with, but I need some help with the Star Wars
stuff. I don't have the luxury of much research time and while I'm a fan, I've
never been into it enough to have the knowledge base I find I need for this
project.
>
> Would anyone have personal experience (a favorite pattern used, perhaps? I can
alter well, but my drafting skills are not the greatest) or website/group
suggestions to share? Most of what I've found on the web so far is incredibly
scattered and difficult to sift through. I'm thinking Jedi robes are the best
choice for what they need, but it would still be easier if I had better base
info. And possibly sources for boots and props that I won't be able to make from
scratch as well.
>
> Thank you in advance for any ideas or leads. I'm most grateful.
>
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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Star Wars costumesPosted by:      "mongrelmuppet"
mongrelmuppet@...   mongrelmuppet
Tue Jun 2, 2009 10:19 am        (PDT)Yes, I plan to build them. I haven't seen
anything pre-made that won't
be laughed right out of a convention hall. Or that is within our
budget.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Have you thought about altering a Samurai or Kimono pattern? That's the basic
historical influence for the Jedi outfits. It looks like they have loose
breeches tucked into their boots instead of the wide pleated trousers of the
Samurai, and the "batwing" jacket isn't quite as pronounced, but basically it's
the same shape.

Here are some links. I would try using these patterns to make a muslin mock-up,
fit it on the person, and use a sharpie to draw new style lines on the muslin
with them in it, to show where you want to change the shape and fit.

http://folkwear.com/asian.html

http://roundearth.stores.yahoo.net/kasave.html

-Jypsie





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I had to google supplex, since I hadn't heard of it.   It's mostly
nylon so Rit will work, as well as Dylon and Tintex.

SYlvia R

On May 21, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Marnie Bragg wrote:

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> I have a bolt of white supplex synthetic four-way stretch that I've
> been
> using for leotard lining (great stuff). I'd like to dye a batch of
> it to use
> for second skins and dance underwear, but I'm a noob at dyeing
> anything
> besides tea-staining shoulder elastics. What's my best bet for a
> good beige
> flesh-tone dye?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marnie
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I am only a "home" sewer, but I have a costume problem I am hoping you can help
me with.  I am involved in a local 'touring company' show and I need to create a
pair of "tear away' pants and shirt for a show we are doing now (I am "an
audience member" chosen to replace a missing actor, who then reveals her "true"
identity). I am "assuming" the easiest/quickest way for the shirt is to take the
buttons sew them on top of the button holes and put velcro on the inside to keep
it closed.  As for the pants I was thinking just to open the outside leg seam
and put in velcro there as well.  It has to hold up to a little movement and
scrutiny but will be covered for the most part by yet another costume peice (a
large foam pirate head that goe over my head and hangs down my front).  Am I
missing anything important here and which is the best way to install the velcro
on the pants so it tears away easily, quickly and with the least amount of fuss
as I have to "break into song" ASAP once the costume is off.  Tyhanks for your
help.

elaine

You need to consider in which direction the costume will be torn off of the
actor, then open each one of those seams and replace the stitching with a thin
strip (or patches) of velcro (unless you want to handstitch them closed every
night! Been there, done that!) For example, if the costume is being pulled from
the BACK, each FRONT seam should breakaway. For pants, the entire crotch seam
must be able to open, as well as the leg seams,otherwise the pants will not come
off. Believe me, I've tried it!
It's best if the fabric has a little stretch to it, as cotton sometimes will
tear even when it's rigged to breakaway. Serge all the seams to prevent snagging
on the velcro. Set up a Dress Tech with each actor to show the "puller" how to
grab hold of the "pullee", and practice, practice, practice! It's a lot of fun
when it works!  Elizabeth