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Marie Buchanan <marielovesashley@...> wrote:
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:21:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Marie Buchanan <marielovesashley@...>
Subject: Re: Blackwater's Owner Has Spies for Hire
To: monty collier <monty_collier2000@...>

I am a group owner so I will forward it to my groups if you are agree.
 
I am not only interested in disinformation agents but I am researching the truth (I am an intellectual) and trying to know the truth as much as I can.  I am studying America since December 2001 even if I did not know at that time that I would immigrate here.  (I won't begin to tell you what U.S. Immigration did to us - my husband died Dec. 5th, 2006 - they are giving a hard time since Nov. 3rd, 2004)
 
I don't know if you know this but Ron Paul is a Jon Birch Society member (you are even asked to join JBS to support him) and the JBS is a New World Order Front.  In the yahoo groups, we have a disinfo agent and I do what I can to fight him.
 
In the Service fo the Truth (Jn. 14:6)
 
Marie
 
monty collier <monty_collier2000@...> wrote:
The following is a response I wrote to an Alex Jones supporter.  He objected to my criticism of Jones' latest film "End Game".
 
 
 
 

Your rhetorical flash is not an argument.

Like most of Jones' silly sychophants (pardon the alliteration), deductive logic is not part of the training.  Try buying a couple of books on deductive logic and at least read the chapters which cover informal logical fallacies.  I would advise "Copi's Introduction To Logic".  Though published in the mid-1900's, it is a classic text (and one of the more reliable).
 
Then maybe you can listen to Jones' drivel and see just how illogical it is.  One can pick out anywhere from 10 to 15 informal and formal logical fallacies in any given Alex Jones radio show.  This is to be expected, since the man runs his mouth for three hours a day with little to no scholastic preparation. 
 
Now consider the type of individuals who use formal and informal fallacies to saturate an already dumbed down audience and why.  If you have ever read Mein Kampf, then you might have a clue.  Those who only desire to spread mindless propaganda for personal gain are the ones who operate this type of rhetorical mechanism.  Such a methodology is always intellecutally bankrupt.  This type of irrational discourse only discredits any serious movement to educate citizens on the true nature of the Constitution of the United States of America.  In short, it hampers any serious enunciation of the truth.
 
Thomas Jefferson understood the importance of education in the preservation of indirect democracy.  But education takes more than watching a few videos.  It requires thousands of hours of reading, study, the development of valid syllogisms, and the production of simple clear literature.  That's right, literature, not video or radio.  If your public can't read and understand your arguments, like those found in the Federalist or Anti-federalist Papers, then your most likely wasting your time in the realm of political philosophy.
 
Finally, one need only listen to those ignorant persons (and I mean this in the kindest way--they are probably just victims of our wonderful public education system) who call in to Jones' show in order to get a proper understanding of the quality of listener Alex Jones has snared.  The average caller to the Alex Jones Show is hardly fluent in the English language, that is, they can hardly make complete sentences or maintain any form of dialogical discourse for more than a few seconds.  Their grammar and pronunciation is atrocious. 
 
If you go to "Truth News", another one of Jones' little sites, then you can read many of the remarks his shills often post after each article.  They simply do not exhibit any systemic understanding of the Democratic-republican philosophy necessary to obtain and control Congress.  Such followers must always be told what to say and write, to their Congressmen for example.  For they have not the political, economic, or philosophical capacity to evaluate legislation, pick out authoritarian declarations, and make proper objections.
 
Rather than producing mindless rhetoric, which only works to elevate panic in the ignorant, Jones should focus upon quality educational material.  Of course, Jones probably knows that such a mindless public would quickly become bored and turn him off and the television on, but isn't this only demonstrative to the fact that he is primarily in it for the fame and money?  Yes, I think it does.
 
Consider the enormous amount of bragging that Jones engages in on a daily basis.  Is pride a desired virtue in a leader?  Not according to the Bible.  He will make retarded remarks about how "big" he has gotten, and how "valuable" he is to the "movement."  His boasting on how "End Game" was his best movie is a classic example of an old snake-bite shill tactic.  Jones might as well have been saying, "Step right up and enjoy the greatest show on earth!"  Jones is full of himself and drunk on what little power he has.  Lord Acton, that liberal Catholic scholar, said it best:  power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
 
I am sending this communication to a multitude of individuals interested in understanding disinformation agents and their supporters, like yourself.
Red Beetle

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