Hello All,

I have gr-gr-grandparent who supposedly immigrated in 1881 thru the Port of
New York.  They were married in 1880, according to 1900 Lavaca County Census.
  They had a daughter born in CZ in 1881 and their next child, a son, was born
in 6/1884 in Lavaca County.  I have immigration/naturalization papers for the
gr-gr-grandfather which states the immigration yr as 1881. And as we all
know.....he could have been wrong. (about the yr.)  Here's my question:

If he immigrated in 1881 how much time do you suppose it took to travel from
New York to Lavaca County, Texas?

Of course, I have checked Leo's books with no luck.  I think my next record
to check would be land records.  I keep checking the Immigrant Ship
Transcribers guild but this particular yr/ship has not been transcribed yet.

Didn't they have to have, or were likely to have, a sponsor or other relative
already in the US before they came?

Thanks,

Elizabeth MRAZ
Houston, Texas
Searching for my Ancestors and Family: GALLIA, GAST, MOTL, MRAZ, SCHUMANN,
SEDLAK, STUDLAR, just to name a few....

CMB Obituary for Rev. Adolph Chlumsky says he died Feb 1, 1919 at
Brenham at 11:00 pm from influenza and was buried at Granger Feb 4.

To All,

I guess that I am the person that you were referring to, "asking about the
particular meaning of a Czech word."  I thank all who responded.

It turned out that the word was used in a sweet way.  I am dating a man from
Czech Republic.  Sometimes he will use the Czech language in emails to see if
I can translate.  He had a good laugh over my attempt.

I joined this group so that I can learn more about his country and culture.
I have enjoyed the emails that I have received.

Thanks!!

Colleen

Hello,

I am in Austin, Texas, although I am a "Texas Czech" only by way of
moving here for school in 1989.  I grew up in Georgia, not exactly a
rich Czech Heritage area.  After realizing that our entire family's
history is being lost as my grandparents have passed on, I began
researching and have made surprising progress given the total lack of
knowledge in how to do it and lack of recollection from my father.

This group has been very helpful as many of the problems people face
and get help with are things I am struggling with (or anticipate
struggling with) as I go along.

Now for my question:  I am trying to find ports of entry, ships etc.
for my family.  They arrived circa 1892.  They settled in Milwaukee,
however they were originally bound for Nebraska but lost their
sponsors address and were befriended by a fellow Bohemian family in
the Milwaukee rail station.  I deduce that they travelled from their
port of entry to Milwaukee headed to Nebraska.  For that reason, I
doubt they entered in Galveston.  Leo Baca's passenger lists for New
York in that time period don't have any entries that would
correspond.  Are they exhaustive?  What other ports of entry should I
be looking at?

Thanks,
Scott Placek

Researching:  PLACEK, KRSEK, FIALA, STODALA, CTIBOR (Stibor)

Is anyone out there researching Snokhous? My grandmother was Victoria
Snokhous, December 14, 1887 - May 18, 1982. She was a resident of
West. About all I know is that her parents were Frantisek Snokhous
(1861-1912) and Alzbeta Kosteckova (1865-1951). They were married in
the Church of Mary Magdalene, County of Trebon, Czeck Republic, June
6, 1886. They are all buried in St. Mary's Cemetery in West. Please
let me know if you have any other leads or know of someone who is
interested in this line.

Thank you,
Gary Polansky
polansky@...
Researching: Polansky, Snokhous, Pustejovsky, Mechell

There is a David Snokhous at Jersey Village HIgh School in Houston.  He is
the athletic director there.

Gary Rektorik

Scott,
	 The Baca books are not exhaustive and Mr. Baca continues to publish new
volumes as he completes additional research. He is currently at volume
VIII (I believe).
	 Your assumption that your immigrant ancestors arrived at a port on the
Eastern Seaboard is quite probable. There were ports at Baltimore,
Pennsylvania and Boston, as well as others. Volunteers continue to post
additional web pages of ships passenger lists.
	 A good source for information is the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild:
http://istg.rootsweb.com/
http://istg.rootsweb.com/arrivals/
http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/ships.htm
http://www.fortunecity.com/littleitaly/amalfi/13/shipdf.htm
and many more.......
	 Just do a Web search for "passenger list" to access additional web sites
for more on ships and their passengers.
	 You could also search the National Archives at:
	 http://search.nara.gov/ for more information related to ships lists,
history of the various ports, etc. The microfilms they contain are the
basis for most of the lists on the WWW.

Sharing. It's What It's All About!
Rick Garza
http://www.garza-zattler.homepage.com/
NameSearch: GARZA, ZATTLER, REYNA, FOSTER, SCHACHTNER, STOPFER,
HOLLMAIER, VOGEL, VOGL, WEINZIERL, FINK . . . and more to come!


On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 19:22:43 -0000 "Scott P" <splacek@...> writes:
> Hello,

> Now for my question:  I am trying to find ports of entry, ships etc.
> for my family.  They arrived circa 1892.  They settled in Milwaukee,
> however they were originally bound for Nebraska but lost their
> sponsors address and were befriended by a fellow Bohemian family in
> the Milwaukee rail station.  I deduce that they travelled from their
> port of entry to Milwaukee headed to Nebraska.  For that reason, I
> doubt they entered in Galveston.  Leo Baca's passenger lists for New
> York in that time period don't have any entries that would
> correspond.  Are they exhaustive?  What other ports of entry should
> I be looking at?











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The Honorary Czech Consul for Houston is Ray Snokhous, you might contact the
Czech Cultural Center 713-686-6362 and ask for his phone number.  I think he
is from West as well.

Good Luck,
Linda

I submitted my mother's recipe for Kolaches & fillings in message
1401 in the texasczechs egroup archives.

Paula Musil Gilbert

--- In texasczechs@egroups.com, phydo35@a... wrote:
> That information on the "Kolache" was very interesting. Now, I
would enjoy
> the various recipes that may be had....any from the old country and
those
> that may have been altered down the line. My grandmother and mother
made them
> and somehow I, regretfully, never ended up with their recipe.
> Many thanks for anyone sending in their recipes.
> Barbara Swoboda
>
> (Phydo35)

<A HREF="http://pweb.netcom.com/~steventw/passenger_columns/index.html">
Click here: Friedrich der Grosse passenger list by column</A>

please every one check this one out!!

pweb.netcom.com/~steventw/passenger_columns/index.html

This one is great!!



Darlene Baker

Researching:
Rokyta, Barton, Balusek, Melnar, Coufal, Dusek,Marek, Kotrla,Krizak, Krizek,
Pustejovsky, Michna, Valchar, Machac, Trlica, Janus or Janous, Sugarek, &
more.

My Page:
http://txhsh.homestead.com/home.html
http://www.geocities.com/dbaker225/Welcome.html

Dear Darlene,

This is such a neat site. I really enjoyed it. I sure wish it had
been
the passenger lists for  the Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse. Thanks for
listing it.

Veronica Valenta Camarillo

Valenta, Matocha,Svinka, Simicek, Lesak, Baker, Kellogg


--- In texasczechs@egroups.com, darlenbaker@c... wrote:
>  <A
HREF="http://pweb.netcom.com/~steventw/passenger_columns/index.html">
> Click here: Friedrich der Grosse passenger list by column</A>
>
> please every one check this one out!!
>
> pweb.netcom.com/~steventw/passenger_columns/index.html
>
> This one is great!!
>
>
>
> Darlene Baker
>
> Researching:
> Rokyta, Barton, Balusek, Melnar, Coufal, Dusek,Marek,
Kotrla,Krizak,
Krizek,
> Pustejovsky, Michna, Valchar, Machac, Trlica, Janus or Janous,
Sugarek, &
> more.
>
> My Page:
> http://txhsh.homestead.com/home.html
> http://www.geocities.com/dbaker225/Welcome.html

--- In texasczechs@egroups.com, darlenbaker@c... wrote:
>  <A
HREF="http://pweb.netcom.com/~steventw/passenger_columns/index.html">
> Click here: Friedrich der Grosse passenger list by column</A>
>
> please every one check this one out!!
>
> pweb.netcom.com/~steventw/passenger_columns/index.html
>
> This one is great!!
>
>
>
> Darlene Baker
>
> Researching:
> Rokyta, Barton, Balusek, Melnar, Coufal, Dusek,Marek, Kotrla,Krizak,
Krizek,
> Pustejovsky, Michna, Valchar, Machac, Trlica, Janus or Janous,
Sugarek, &
> more.
>
> My Page:
> http://txhsh.homestead.com/home.html
> http://www.geocities.com/dbaker225/Welcome.html

Re site from Darlene Baker...please give full address--I was unable to
access from what you gave.  Is it www. first or not?  I've never seen the
pweb as a URL???

Pat Sommerfeld Lyon  patsroar@...

Surnames:  Urban, Orsag/Orsak, Svach, Simik, Jarma, Kolanovsky, Cabron,
Slovak,  Koniak, Uherek, Gaas, Vavra, Pavlas, Kunetka, Hubanek, Shula,
Kocurek, Malik, Stasny, Kmiec, Sommerfeld, Behnke, Soukup, Rejcek, et al

Hi All,
     Encountered this post on another list. Perhaps some of you have connections
with
her surnames?
Rick Garza

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica Sims" <jessie617@...>
Subject: [TX-CZECH] KALUZA, MICHALCIK, MUZNY, SLOVAK, SUGAREK, AND ROHAN


| Frank KALUZA (b. 16 Sept. 1850 in Austria & d. 23 Oct.
| 1937 in Fayette Co., TX) married Elizabeth
| MICHALCIK (b. abt. 1850 & d. abt. 1920). They had 6
| children:
| 1. Frank Jr. (my gg-grandfather: b. 28 Oct 1875 in
| Czech Republic & d. 6 Oct 1962) married Rozalie MUZNY
| (b. 9 Mar 1879 in Texas & d. 5 July 1950).  They had 5
| children.
| 2. Katerina
| 3. Mary
| 4. Peter married 4 Nov. 1913 in Fayette Co., TX to (1)
| Emilie SLOVAK (b. 7 Feb. 1896 & d. 20 Oct. 1918).  He
| married (2) Agnes SUGAREK on 17 May 1920 in Fayette
| Co., TX.
| 5. John F. (b. 19 May 1882 in Austria) married Anna
| BELCIK 10 Nov 1909 at St. John the Baptist Catholic
| Church, Ammannsville, Texas.  They had 12 children.
| 6. Filomena (b. 24 June 1887 & d. 11 Mar 1968 in
| Ammannsville, TX) married Bedrich A. ROHAN on 26 Oct
| 1909 in Fayette Co., TX.  They had 6 children.
|
| I'm seeking any information on this family.  If you
| know anything or have questions, please contact me.
| More information can be found here:
|
| http://www.angelfire.com/tx4/genearchives/
|
| Thank you in advanced for your help.
|
| Jessica Sims
| jessie617@...
|












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Is there a online database for Telephone Directory for the Czech
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To: texasczechs@egroups.com <texasczechs@egroups.com>
Date: martes 5 de diciembre de 2000 15:12
Subject: [TexasCzechs] Czech Republic Telephone Directory


>Is there a online database for Telephone Directory for the Czech
>Republic?
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I stumbled on two articles about the founding of the Knights of
Columbus at West, Texas.  My great grandfather, John G. KUHN, was the
first Grand Knight.

Chuck Shultz

----------

West, Texas
[newspaper unknown]
[date unknown]


INITIATE LARGE CLASS K. OF C.

Perfecting Plans to Establish
     Council of the Order
        In This City

Through the continued efforts for several weeks, of Mr. J. G. Kuhn,
plans are now being perfected for establishing in this city a council
of the order, Knights of Columbus.

For several weeks Mr. Kuhn has been securing the names of candidates,
and on last Sunday night thirty of these went to Waco, where they
took the initiatory degrees.  Another degress will be given at an
early date, and then they will be ready to establish a council in
this city.

The next meeting at Waco will begin with a special service at the
Catholic Church in the morning.  In the afternoon, the degrees will
be given, after which a banquet will be served at the Raleigh Hotel,
the new members being the guests of the Waco council.

Those who formed the class initiated last Sunday are as follows: John
Mikulik, Louis Bezdek, Dan Urbanovsky, Frank Seith, Ed Dittermann,
Albert Ctverlik, Charles Janak, Kelon Busby, Joe Kubella, Frank
Cocek, Emil Jerebek, Johnny Nemecek, Joe Gaidusek, John Barak, Franki
Uptmor, Jerry Cernosek, John Marek, Willie Kolar, Charles Smajstrla,
Frank Kabella, Antone Hajek, Emil Jansky, Walter Barak, Henry
Smajstrla, John Rendek, Eddie Walla, J. E. Hajek, Joe Karlik, Frank
Baca, and Lawrance Holocek.

These are some of the best young men of West and vicinity, and with
those who already have membership in the order, Antone and Ernest
Nemecek, Joe Polasek, Henry Kabella, Rev. M. Budnik, J. G. Kuhn and
J. F. Cernosek, will make the West Council one of the strongest and
most active in any small city in the state.

It will probably be sixty days before the charter can be secured and
the local council initiated.


----------


West, Texas
Times-Herald Special
July 29, [????]


KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS FORM COUNCIL AT WEST

WEST, Texas. July 29 -- With many members of the order present from
Waco, the formal institution of the West council of the Knights of
Columbus took place last night.  Officers were installed by past
State Deputy E. J. Davoren of Dallas, assisted by District Deputy E.
C. McDermott of Waco and some of the officers of the Waco council.
Fifty charter members were enrolled.

Officers of West council who will serve for the first term are: Grand
Knight, J. G. Kuhn; deputy grand knight, A. R. Nemeck; chancellor,
Kelon Busby; recorder, H. V. Smajstrla; financial secretary, Ed
Ditterman; treasurer, Frank Seith; advocate, J. R. Cuff; warden, T.
F. Cocek; inner guard, J. C. Karlik; outer guard, Joe Kabella;
trustee, three years, Frank Wachsmann; two years, Ernest Nemecek; one
year, Charles Zapalac.

After the installation members of the West council were hosts at a
luncheon, at which many delicacies were served.

Hi all !1 thought you would enjoy this:
It is from my friend Petr in the CR.


Darlene


  We celebrate "Mikulas" today. Have you ever heard about him?
It`s a long time tradition in the CR. Once upon a time were 3 sisters
which wanted to get married. They were very poor and hadn`t money for
a wedding. Mikulas was a very kind man in their village and he gave 3
grouch-bags full of money outside a window in the evening. Small childern
believe that he walks and gives some stuff every evening on 6. december.
Mostly candies and chocolate. He`s gotten at a dream element and that`s
why an angel and a devil comes with him. The devil is for a tiresome child
and the angel for a kind one.

Pat


yes  I am sorry use www. first.

darlene

The next holy day was December 8, The feast of the Immaculate Conception, this also was a day when we awaited the coming of the Blessed Virgin Mary. On this date we would receive articles such as Holy Cards, a rosary, maybe a prayerbook, etc.....

The tradition of fish for Christmas Eve. Is this a tradition orginated in the Czech lands or is based on tradition of the Roman Catholic Church? Those that remember when we Catholics were not allowed to eat meat on Friday, we were also to fast from meat on the eve of every Holy Day. This was a law of the Church. I'm not sure but some of the other denominations also observed this practice. This was our fish day or vegetable soup etc.... We ate fish on Friday and also on the eve of Holydays and Ash Wednesday. I wonder if this tradition of eating fish did not evolve from this practice?

Here is another tradition someone out there might remember. On Christmas Eve day if you eat you will not see the "Golden Pig" Has anyone out there remember seeing the golden pig. Does anyone remember what had to be done and why? I know that we always had to fast so many hours before receiving Holy Communion. On Christmas Eve we always went to Midnite Mass and received Holy Communion. We always ate a evening meal that day, and Grandma always placed a little money under her plate for good luck, so in order to receive communion at midnite mass we had to abstain from food the remainder of the evening until midnite. With so many goodies around it was very difficult for the young ones to stay out of the kitchen. My reasoning is that we were promised to see the Golden Pig, if we did not snack on goodies before midnite Mass so we could receive Communion. Why a Golden Pig? Beats me. Anyone out there have the answer?

David B.
 
 
 
 

CShep10511@... wrote:

Thanks for this info.  My mother tells exactly this same story of this
tradition that was still celebrated  as she was a child.  Too bad some of
these wonderful traditions had not been continued with the 2nd and 3rd
generation Czech-Americans.

I am happy to say we have continued to celebrate a European Christmas and
Santa comes on our house on Christmas Eve. We also continue the tradition of
having a fish fry (ryby) on Christmas Eve as do many of our Czech family in
Europe.

Happy Holidays.

Connie

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I always heard it was 'carp' specifically at Christmas.

Please disregard the notice of a "Fall State Meeting." This is in error.
The meeting was held on Nov 18.
Rick

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