Oh yeah,...who were your grandparents?  There are a lot of good
researchers here on the list, but we need names and dates in order to
help you.


leannamongan wrote:
> When I joined this list a mere month ago, genealogy was the last
> thing on my mind.  Then it happened - I have been bitten by the "who
> are my great-grandparents" bug.  I've signed up for the 2 week free
> trial at Ancestry.com, and did not learn anything I didn't already
> know - my grandparents immigrated to Galveston in 1908.  So, now I'm

Best way to start is to write down everything you already know, and
you'll surprise yourself with how much that is.  Parents, aunts, uncles,
cousins, grandparents, grandaunts and uncles, second cousins, etc.

I definitely recommend a genealogy program, but some are better than
others.  I prefer RootsMagic, (http://www.rootsmagic.com).  A new
version is just now being released.

I'd avoid paying for information, as most of it is a scam.  Research in
Czechoslovakia will cost, and I'd go with recommendations from the list
here on people that are reputable.  But that's "on down the road".  For
now, fill in as much information as you already know, and talk to as
many living relatives as you can.  They too will "remember" more than
they think they do once they get started.

I started off, much like yourself, a little over 15 years ago, and
didn't think I knew much at all, but lo and behold, I remembered more
than I thought, my sister helped with that which I had forgotten, and
then aunts and uncles started popping up, and family bibles, and
newspaper articles, (mostly obits) with more names, and today, I have a
database of over 8,000 relatives.  You will too, and it's a great legacy
to leave your family.  I wish someone had done all of this before
everyone died off, a lot has been lost forever.  But I've been able to
preserve much more that would have been lost in a few more generations.

Like I say, it's a great legacy to leave behind, and it's a very
rewarding process.  Family reunions are great fun, and much information
can be gathered, be sure and find out if, and where one is.  Or start
one yourself.  Good way to "meet the family" living and dead.

Good luck, you will enjoy your search, I guarantee.  It's a great
experience!





leannamongan wrote:
> When I joined this list a mere month ago, genealogy was the last
> thing on my mind.  Then it happened - I have been bitten by the "who
> are my great-grandparents" bug.  I've signed up for the 2 week free
> trial at Ancestry.com, and did not learn anything I didn't already
> know - my grandparents immigrated to Galveston in 1908.  So, now I'm
> stuck.  Since it has been 100 degrees plus here in Southern
> California, I made good use of the air conditioning (and Thomas train
> set for the kids) at Barnes & Noble yesterday afternoon.  That was a
> pointless trip except for the $15 I spent at the Starbucks (kids
> again - they sure can be expensive!)  So, tonight I started going
> through Amazon.com.  I like them, new books and free shipping.
> However, there are a lot of books there about Genealogy.  Even the
> reviews are too helpful.  I looked through this TexasCzech website
> since this seems to be the biggest group of family researchers I am
> familiar with, but could find no recommendations for basic beginners
> book on how to find out who my ancestors were.
>
> My aunt did a family tree with all the basics of who married who when
> and births from these unions, but that is it.  Well, not exactly
> all.  It seems many of us have been unlucky in love, so the divorces
> are there too.
>
> Anyway, I would just like to know what all ya'll think about the
> various genealogy how-to books out there and where best I might spend
> my husband's hard earned money.  I was also thinking about getting
> one of those software programs to organize it all, but again, there
> are people who love and hate them all.  Does anyone here use any of
> these things or is it a waste of time learning how to use yet another
> computer program?
>
> And, since I'm asking questions here, does anyone have any idea how
> to find out who my grandparents parents were?  I asked my aunt and
> she doesn't know.  Since they were both born in Moravia in the
> 1880's, is there anyway to find out?  Sorry if that makes anyone
> shake their head in disbelief, but I was just wondering...
>
> I'd really appreciate any opinions or recommendations.
>
> Thanks so much,
> Leanna Šulák Mongan
> Somehow related to people named Sulak, Kovar, Jakubec, Valek, Hurtik,
> Watterson, Haynes, Thacker, Sefcik, Marek, Shebesta, Ketterman,
> Hradecky, Knesek, Gravston, Walton, Hlavinka, Barnes, Ambruzova,
> Kubacek, Stephan, Rusnak, Beeler, Darilek, and Frei
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Original Message -----
   From: "J.D. Kotrla-Chipps" <jdkc@...>
   To: <TexasCzechs@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:54 AM
   Subject: Re: [TexasCzechs] Genealogy Book Recommendations, Prosím


Oh yeah,...who were your grandparents?  There are a lot of good
researchers here on the list, but we need names and dates in order to
help you.


leannamongan wrote:


When I joined this list a mere month ago, genealogy was the last
thing on my mind.  Then it happened - I have been bitten by the "who
are my great-grandparents" bug.  I've signed up for the 2 week free
trial at Ancestry.com, and did not learn anything I didn't already
know - my grandparents immigrated to Galveston in 1908.  So, now I'm
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Obituary of Glorine Wendel Greive
Victoria Advocate Online
6 May 2004

Glorine L.w. Greive

May 6, 2004

MOULTON - Glorine Lilly Wendel Greive, 82, of Moulton, died Wednesday, May
5, 2004.

She was born July 29, 1921, in Moulton, to the late Adam and Alma Hirsch
Wendel. She was an egg grader for Weigengarten and a Catholic.

Survivors: daughters, Barbara Michalec of East Bernard and Judy Tronicek of
Shiner.

Preceded in death by: husband, Edmund A. Greive; and one sister.

A rosary will be recited 7:30 p.m. tonight at Buffington Funeral Home
chapel.

Services will be 10 a.m. Friday at Sts. Cyril and Methodius Catholic Church,
the Rev. Robert Knippenberg officiating.

Burial will be at Shiner Catholic Cemetery. Buffington Funeral Home, Shiner,
361-594-3352.

_________________________________________________________________
Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! http://youroffers.msn.com

Here are some "SLOVACEK" I have in my tree, also have a couple of "KUCERA".

twoyoung4 wrote:

> My name is Linda Manak Rippen and I was born and raised in Texas;
> however, since my retirement and marriage in 2002, I have lived here
> in Southern California.  I sure do miss being in Texas but do make
> frequent trips back to visit family and friends.
> I have been doing Genealozy since 1970 but primarily focused on my
> Mother's side of the family which are English, Irish, and Welch up
> until the last months or so.  I have done quite a bit of research on
> her side of the family and am back to the early 1700's in my
> research on her lines.
> Now I have begun to research my Dad's side of the family which are
> the Czech line.  Some of the family names are as follows:  Manak,
> Kosarek, Buzek, Vilha, Slovacek, and Kucera to name a few.
> Look forward to a good relationship with the Society and perhaps
> making contact with some long lost cousins who are also interested
> in Genealogy.
> My best to all,
> Linda Manak Rippen
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----- Original Message ----- From: "J.D. Kotrla-Chipps" <jdkc@...>
To: <TexasCzechs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TexasCzechs] Genealogy Book Recommendations, Prosím



  > Best way to start is to write down everything you already know, and
  > you'll surprise yourself with how much that is.  Parents, aunts, uncles,
  > cousins, grandparents, grandaunts and uncles, second cousins, etc.
  >
  > I definitely recommend a genealogy program, but some are better than
  > others.  I prefer RootsMagic, (http://www.rootsmagic.com).  A new
  > version is just now being released.
  >
  > I'd avoid paying for information, as most of it is a scam.  Research in
  > Czechoslovakia will cost, and I'd go with recommendations from the list
  > here on people that are reputable.  But that's "on down the road".  For
  > now, fill in as much information as you already know, and talk to as
  > many living relatives as you can.  They too will "remember" more than
  > they think they do once they get started.
  >
  > I started off, much like yourself, a little over 15 years ago, and
  > didn't think I knew much at all, but lo and behold, I remembered more
  > than I thought, my sister helped with that which I had forgotten, and
  > then aunts and uncles started popping up, and family bibles, and
  > newspaper articles, (mostly obits) with more names, and today, I have a
  > database of over 8,000 relatives.  You will too, and it's a great legacy
  > to leave your family.  I wish someone had done all of this before
  > everyone died off, a lot has been lost forever.  But I've been able to
  > preserve much more that would have been lost in a few more generations.
  >
  > Like I say, it's a great legacy to leave behind, and it's a very
  > rewarding process.  Family reunions are great fun, and much information
  > can be gathered, be sure and find out if, and where one is.  Or start
  > one yourself.  Good way to "meet the family" living and dead.
  >
  > Good luck, you will enjoy your search, I guarantee.  It's a great
  > experience!
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > leannamongan wrote:
  >
  >> When I joined this list a mere month ago, genealogy was the last
  >> thing on my mind.  Then it happened - I have been bitten by the "who
  >> are my great-grandparents" bug.  I've signed up for the 2 week free
  >> trial at Ancestry.com, and did not learn anything I didn't already
  >> know - my grandparents immigrated to Galveston in 1908.  So, now I'm
  >> stuck.
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Leanna,

Given the cause of death of your grandparents, you will no doubt find
a news article and obituary for them.  Where did they live?
Regarding your trip to Texas, you might shoot for Houston first,
especially if you want to work on your genealogy.  The Clayton
Library for Genealogical Research is one of the largest genealogy
libraries in the nation and is located at 5300 Caroline in downtown
Houston.

Matt

--- In TexasCzechs@yahoogroups.com, "Leanna Mongan"
<sulakmongan@c...> wrote:
>  Oh, thanks for asking.  My grandfather was Paul Sulak, born May 9,
1871 in
> Moravia, and my grandmother was Anna Kovar, born August 6, 1884.
They were
> married October 23, 1911 and died May 28, 1931 - murder/suicide, he
shot her
>  then himself.

This posting is addressed mainly to Leanna.

I am related through Dorothy Knesek to Rudolph Sulak.  My marriage
date for this couple differs by ten days from yours.  According to
parish registers of Holy Family Catholic Church in Wharton, Texas,
they married on 21 Jan 1956.  I have cousins that live and attend
that church to this day.  Their surname is Kresta.

My records indicate that Rudolph Henry Sulak was born 10 Mar 1935;
his wife Dorothy Knesek was born 15 May 1936.  They have three sons:
Alan, Glen, and James.

Dorothy Knesek is one of 13 children.  Her parents were August "Gus"
Knesek and Carrie Gaydosek.  I do not have a marriage date for her
parents, and if you can provide that information to me, I would much
appreciate it.

August Knesek was born 24 Feb 1895; his wife was born 28 Sep 1901.

Gus Knesek murdered his wife on 22 Nov 1948 in the Frenstat community
of Burleson County, Texas.  He hanged himself in his jail cell on 15
Dec 1948.

The articles regarding this murder and eventual suicide are available
at:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~alvarez/

Gus Knesek's parents were Frederic Knezek and Catherine Hajek.
Catherine's obituary is also on the website above.  Catherine was the
sister of my great-great-great-grandmother, Therezie Hajek
Berckenhoff.

Matt

I have a Joe KOVAR, m. Sep 30, 1919, to Fannie KABELA, b. Mar 2, 1895.

They had 4 boys, 1 girl, (sorry, no names, or dates).

Joe may be related to your Anna, which would tie your KOVARS to mine,
and give you a head start because I could give you all the 2nd, 3rd
cousins from them.



Leanna Mongan wrote:

>  Oh, thanks for asking.  My grandfather was Paul Sulak, born May 9, 1871
> in Moravia, and my grandmother was Anna Kovar, born August 6, 1884.
> They were married October 23, 1911 and died May 28, 1931 -
> murder/suicide, he shot her, then himself.
>
> Also, thanks for reposting the other message.  You have given me hope!
>
> Leanna SulakMongan
> La Mesa, California
>
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Leanna Mongan wrote:


> Marek -Lydia Marek was my uncle EJ Sulak's second wife.  That unlucky in
> love thing again!  I have no other information about her.

I have a Lydia, which may, or may not be related.  She could have been
married to JEZEK before/after your uncle.  Or it may be a different "Lydia".


Descendants of Frank V. MAREK - May 6, 2004
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

First Generation

1.  Frank V. MAREK.

Frank V. MAREK and Ludmilla MAREK were married.    Frank V. MAREK and
Ludmilla MAREK had the following children:

	 +2 i. Lydia MAREK (born on Apr 30, 1893).



Second Generation

2.  Lydia MAREK was born on Apr 30, 1893 in Industry, Austin Co., TX.

Lydia MAREK and Louis P. JEZEK Sr. were married about 1912.

--

Also, meant to mention to look for alternate spellings in your searches.
   Especially census records and records from Czechoslovakia.  Many times
the people didn't speak english, and spelled out the name phonetically.
   In the old country records were kept in latin, german, and czech,
depending on the date, and district.  So you'll run across many variations.



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Hi All,
         Can we all band together to show our Moravian brother in France,
Jean-pierre, that Texas Czechs really are a friendly and helpful bunch?
         I used the Google language tools and below is a translation of
Jean-pierre's information. If any of you have access to Leo Baca's
Passenger List books, could you look in them to see if you can find any
Matoska names? I did search the phone books last night and found about 11
listings for Matoska in Texas. I'll post those later.
         In the meantime, let's show Jean-pierre a real Texas welcome!
Rick Garza
P.S. Prostejov is right in the heart of where most of our ancestors
lived.
Jean-pierre's msg in English -------------------
Thank you very much for your response,
My name is Matoska Jean-Pierre, I live in the east of France, in the
meadows of Metz. I was born in 1954 in Baden-Baden (FRG), my father,
Joseph Matoska, was a military doctor in the French Army. I am married
and I have 4 sons (David, Julien, Xavier and Jack)
My grandfather, Ladislaw Matoska, was born in Prostejov (Moravia, Olomouc
Region, C.R.) on May 19, 1904 and died on February 14, 1961 in Vesoul
(France).. He married Valerie Rutterova (Rutter) on October 22, 1927 in
Echenoz Méline (France). Ladislaw Matoska (my grandfather) had 5 brothers
and 2 sisters.
BROTHERS::
- Matoska Jean (Czechoslovakia)??
- Matoska Stanley (the USA) married with May ___ 1 Vera girl??
- Matoska Adolph (the USA) born in 1901?? died in 1959 Illinois (Bohemian
National Cemetery)
married Blanche ??, they had 2 girls
         - Blanche Kuchera wife
         - Marilyn marries Adams.
- Matoska François (Argentina)???
- Matoska Josef (Argentina)???
SISTERS
- Matoska?? marries Vymazal (Czechoslovakia)?
- Matoska Louise marries a Pituchova (Tchécoslovaquie)?
Paul Matoska and Marie Nadymacek were the parents of these 8 children,
they still lived in Prostejov in the year 1927.
I seek information on Paul Matoska and on his/her children.
Very cordially to everyone,
The Matoska Family in France
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Hello Jean-pierre,
         It might be easier for you if you translated your French message
into English by using the Google language tools located at
http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=fr .
         I looked in the Czech phone book ( http://phone.quick.cz/ ) and
found that there are three Matoskas that still live in Prostejov. And
there are 2 Pituchovas that live in the Olomouc region (1 lives in
Prostejov). You might want to write a postcard to these people.
         The National Bohemian Cemeteries (Ceske Narodni Hrbitov) were
started by members of the C.S.P.S. (Czechoslovak Benevolent Society) - a
fraternal insurance society. The new name of the CSPS is CSA (
http://www.csafraternallife.org/ ). They have a very nice library and you
could write to them for information about the Matoskas that immigrated to
Illinois.
         Who is Paul Matoska and how is he related to your grandfather?
         There are about 12 Matoskas listed in the Texas telephone book,
and many Kuchera/Kucera families also live in Texas.
Best wishes to you and your family.
Rick Garza
Sharing. It's what it's all about!
http://www.texasczechs.homestead.com/

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Bonjour Jean-pierre,
         Il pourrait être plus facile pour vous si vous traduisiez votre
message français en anglais en utilisant les outils de langue de Google
situés au
http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=fr.
         J'ai regardé dans l'annuaire téléphonique tchécoslovaque et ai
constaté qu'il y a de trois Matoskas que pourtant habitez dans Prostejov.
  Et il y a de 2 Pituchovas qui de phase dans la région
d'Olomouc/Olomoucky kraj (1 habite dans Prostejov).  Vous pourriez
vouloir écrire une carte postale à ces personnes.
         Les cimetières de Bohème nationaux ont été commencés par des
membres du C.S.P.S. (société bienveillante tchèque) - une société
d'assurance fraternelle.  Le nouveau nom du CSPS est CSA (
http://www.csafraternallife.org/ ).  Ils ont une bibliothèque très
gentille et vous pourriez leur écrire pour des informations sur le
Matoskas qui immigrated à l'Illinois.
         Qui est Paul Matoska et comment est il connexe à votre
grand-père?
         Il y a environ de 12 Matoskas énuméré dans l'annuaire
téléphonique du Texas, et beaucoup de Kuchera/Kucera habitent également
dans le Texas.
Les meilleurs voeux à vous et à votre famille,
Rick Garza

On Wed, 5 May 2004 10:40:03 +0200 "Jean-Pierre MATOSKA"
<jean-pierre.matoska@...> writes:
> (translated) Thank you very much for your response,
My name is Matoska Jean-Pierre, I live in the east of France, in the
meadows of Metz. I was born in 1954 in Baden-Baden (FRG), my father,
Joseph Matoska, was a military doctor in the French Army. I am married
and I have 4 sons (David, Julien, Xavier and Jack)
My grandfather, Ladislaw Matoska, was born in Prostejov (Moravia, Olomouc
Region, C.R.) on May 19, 1904 and died on February 14, 1961 in Vesoul
(France).. He married Valerie Rutterova (Rutter) on October 22, 1927 in
Echenoz Méline (France). Ladislaw Matoska (my grandfather) had 5 brothers
and 2 sisters.
BROTHERS::
- Matoska Jean (Czechoslovakia)??
- Matoska Stanley (the USA) married with May ___ 1 Vera girl??
- Matoska Adolph (the USA) born in 1901?? died in 1959 Illinois (Bohemian
National Cemetery)
married Blanche ??, they had 2 girls
         - Blanche Kuchera wife
         - Marilyn marries Adams.
- Matoska François (Argentina)???
- Matoska Josef (Argentina)???
SISTERS
- Matoska?? marries Vymazal (Czechoslovakia)?
- Matoska Louise marries a Pituchova (Tchécoslovaquie)?
Paul Matoska and Marie Nadymacek were the parents of these 8 children,
they still lived in Prostejov in the year 1927.
I seek information on Paul Matoska and on his/her children.
Very cordially to everyone,
The Matoska Family in France
.>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Members,

Wow, what Rick posted about using Google to translate language is neat!
Wish there was a Czech language translator like that for free!

I wrote Jean-Pierre and Welcomed him to the TexasCzechs; hope he might be
able to translate his messages to English when posting to the list as some
may not be able to translate French messages, and some members may be kin,
etc.  I told Jean-Pierre I assumed he has been to Olomouc as he isn't too
far away, but if he had not, I gave him the URL link to Yahoo photos where I
have 10 Olomouc photos posted, taken in 2000.  Again, told him Welcome!

I would not be surprised if the Czech name Matous is a derivitative of
Matoska.  In the Cz language, many times the oska after a name means it is
applied to the last name of an unmarried girl/lady.

Sir John, Earl of Berkshire
What good is information if not shared with others?

----- Original Message -----

From: richardgarza1@...

To: texasczechs@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 12:24 PM

Subject: [TexasCzechs] Helping our Brother in France

Hi All,
        Can we all band together to show our Moravian brother in France,
Jean-pierre, that Texas Czechs really are a friendly and helpful bunch?
        I used the Google language tools and below is a translation of
Jean-pierre's information. If any of you have access to Leo Baca's
Passenger List books, could you look in them to see if you can find any
Matoska names? I did search the phone books last night and found about 11
listings for Matoska in Texas. I'll post those later.
        In the meantime, let's show Jean-pierre a real Texas welcome!
Rick Garza
P.S. Prostejov is right in the heart of where most of our ancestors
lived.
Jean-pierre's msg in English -------------------
Thank you very much for your response,
My name is Matoska Jean-Pierre, I live in the east of France, in the
meadows of Metz. I was born in 1954 in Baden-Baden (FRG), my father,
Joseph Matoska, was a military doctor in the French Army. I am married
and I have 4 sons (David, Julien, Xavier and Jack)
My grandfather, Ladislaw Matoska, was born in Prostejov (Moravia, Olomouc
Region, C.R.) on May 19, 1904 and died on February 14, 1961 in Vesoul
(France).. He married Valerie Rutterova (Rutter) on October 22, 1927 in
Echenoz Méline (France). Ladislaw Matoska (my grandfather) had 5 brothers
and 2 sisters.
BROTHERS::
- Matoska Jean (Czechoslovakia)??
- Matoska Stanley (the USA) married with May ___ 1 Vera girl??
- Matoska Adolph (the USA) born in 1901?? died in 1959 Illinois (Bohemian
National Cemetery)
married Blanche ??, they had 2 girls
        - Blanche Kuchera wife
        - Marilyn marries Adams.
- Matoska François (Argentina)???
- Matoska Josef (Argentina)???
SISTERS
- Matoska?? marries Vymazal (Czechoslovakia)?
- Matoska Louise marries a Pituchova (Tchécoslovaquie)?
Paul Matoska and Marie Nadymacek were the parents of these 8 children,
they still lived in Prostejov in the year 1927.
I seek information on Paul Matoska and on his/her children.
Very cordially to everyone,
The Matoska Family in France
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I hope your trip included the Ross Prarie church and cemetery, between
Fayetteville and Ellinger, (also called the CMB church).  This area was
one of the first settlements in Texas, and has great records of many of
the first people to immigrate here from Czechoslovakia.



Judy Vondra wrote:
> Yesterday my cousin Linda Skalicky and myself took off on a venture to
> Halletsville, Plum, Shiner, Weimar, Schulenberg, Nelsonville,
> Fayetteville and a few other spots. We were hunting Rosenbaum, Shiller,
> Schiller, Lesikar, Stallmach, Janak, Strban, Supak and the Czech
> Brethren Church in Shiner we had seen pics of on this list.

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Hi Judy,
         Wow! Was that a whirlwind trip! I guess you were on the road by
sun-up.
         I see you were hunting down Shillers (Silar) & Lesikars. Did you
make it to the Susen and New Ulm cemeteries?
         I also note you're searching for Stalmachs. Besides the Stalmachs
in Nelsonville, do you have any connection to the Stalmach name in
Smithville or Houston?
         And when do we get to see your lyrics for the "Prune Song??<g>

Rick Garza
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 23:31:08 -0500 "Judy Vondra" <vonward@...>
writes:
Yesterday my cousin Linda Skalicky and myself took off on a venture to
Halletsville, Plum, Shiner, Weimar, Schulenberg, Nelsonville,
Fayetteville and a few other spots. We were hunting Rosenbaum, Shiller,
Schiller, Lesikar, Stallmach, Janak, Strban, Supak and the Czech Brethren
Church in Shiner we had seen pics of on this list.

My best souvenier was finally finding the Prune Song. I have almost
learned the rest of the words that have been missing from my version for
many years.
< - snip - >

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Subject: [TexasCzechs] My Latest Trip

 We were hunting Rosenbaum, Shiller, Schiller, Lesikar, Stallmach, Janak, Strban, Supak 

I often thought of ya'll everytime I recognized a name from this list.

 

Judy,

What a trip.  I have a few names of above people and may be of help. 

 

Louise Shiller (22Nov1896-unknown) buried in St. John's Catholic Cem, Deanville, TX.  Married Edward Maresh, dates unknown.  If you have dates I don't, will appreciate them.

Anna Schiller (unk-unk) married William E.Mikeska (unk-unk)

Anna Lesikar (1887-1944) married Josef Mikeska (1886-1938)  Josef was born in Granger, TX area and don't know if buried there or not. Their son is William E Mikeska, who married Anna Shiller above. I sense they are from the Burleson Cty area, as most of the families were.

 

I have 19 Supaks that begin around 1950 and last birth in the 80's.  Don't know if would be of any help - let me know if you would like to go into the list.

 

Sir John, Earl of Berkshire
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Hi Judy,
         Thanks for the info. Do you have a port and date of arrival for
the Stalmach immigrants?
         Last summer, Sir John and I took Dr. & Mrs. Jan Mikeska of Prague
to Nelsonville to meet Mrs. Whitehead. Dr. Mikeska was able to gather and
clarify quite a bit of family history as well as acquire several nice
family photos.
         BTW, some of the Supaks in Nelsonville now use the "Shupak"
spelling.
Rick Garza
P.S. Did 2 Stalmach sisters marry 2 Whitehead brothers?

On Fri, 7 May 2004 22:59:17 -0500 "Judy Vondra" <vonward@...>
writes:
         This is the family we were searching for on our trip:
         My g-grandmother was Rosalie Stalmach Pecha. Her brothers were
John and Joe Stalmach. The Stalmach in Nelsonville Joyce Stalmach
Whitehead and the Stalmach in Smithville Ruth Stalmach Whitehead are
both grandchildren of John Stalmach. Joe's Stalmach grandchildren live in
Houston. Miss Lydia Stalmach Maresh and John J Stalmach Jr. were sister
and brother that was the children of John Stalmach who married to Theresa
Lesikar. Their Great  Grandfather was Joseph Lidumil Lesikar.
         As far as the Supak family...we are searching them all.

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Obituary of Mary Volcik Stehno
El Campo Leader-News Online
8 May 2004

Mary Stehno

Mary Emilie Stehno, 86, of Louise, died Wednesday, May 5, 2004.

She was born Jan. 4, 1918 in El Campo to Frank and Mary Bartosh
Volcik. Mrs. Stehno was a retired Licensed Vocational Nurse having
worked a number of years at the Hillje Czech Catholic Home. She had
also worked for many years at El Campo Aluminum and was also a
licensed beautician. Mrs. Stehno assited her late husband with
farming and ranching. She was a member of the SPJST, KJZT Society,
had sung in the Church Choir and with the Gulf Coast Czech Singers.
Survivors include her sons, Charles Stehno of Louise, Allen Stehno
and wife Sharon of El Campo; brother, Eugene Volcik of Winnie;
grandchildren, Kim Surratt, Jeff Stehno, Christina Stehno, Bradley
Stehno and Justin Abbott; and 7 great-grandchildren.

She was preceded in death by her husband, Charles Stehno Sr.; sister,
Emma Waligura; and brother, John Volcik.

A Rosary was recited Friday, May 7 at 7 p.m. at Triska Funeral Home.
Funeral services are today, Saturday, May 8 at 10 a.m. at St.
Procopius Catholic Church in Louise with the Rev. Paul Raaz
officiating. Burial will follow at Garden of Memories Cemetery.
Pallbearers are Jeff Stehno, Bradley Stehno, Justin Abbott, Jimmy
Surratt, Taylor Surratt and Robert Wagner.

Honorary pallbearers are Kim Surratt, Christina Stehno and her seven
great-grandchildren.

Memorial donations in memory of Mary Stehno may be made to St.
Procopius Catholic Church or the Hillje Czech Catholic Home.