That can vary, as Ben mentions, I plan on starting at 60psi, I have been in
a room when an explosion has happened at 40 psi, so no way will I use the
PVC.

And Ben suggests using PVC in no pressurized areas, only place on Grims mock
up thats' possible is the barrel post chamber.
I am trying a steel pipe 8" nipple there for mine hoping for a different
resonance. (longest I could find at bLowes)

Gonna build after ER, I'll fill you all in when I can sperimant later
tonight.

Gorey

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http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm

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   -----Original Message-----
   From: Steve Baker [mailto:mr_quest1@...]
   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:17 PM
   To: Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: RE: [Technical_Insanity] Re: Lets get on to the point


   dont get me wrong, I am not singing the praises of pvc. I used it because
that is what was handy and it wasnt on an air cannon.  I was just currious
if I understood the use of the air cannon and wondered how much psi we were
talking about?

   Corey Minion <csminion@...> wrote:In my case, it will be ABS,
not PVC, Ive been there when "thar she blows"
   and it is downright deadly.
   granted this is a 2x a year debate/discussion, but I think its wise to
keep
   fresh in the minds of new haunters (prolly wouldnt hurt some of the old
   gaurd either to brush up on some safety)

   Gorey

   Minions Web Haunt
   http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm

   Minions Web Hallow-Links List
   http://www.hallow-links.com

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Steve Baker [mailto:mr_quest1@...]
     Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:03 PM
     To: Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com
     Subject: Re: [Technical_Insanity] Re: Lets get on to the point


     I am alittle confused. by air cannon are we not talking about shooting a
   burst of air at people? after reading the osha doc. it says that pvc
   shouldnt be used for more that 100 psi. well how big of air burst is
needed?

     PhreeqMeOut <phreeqmeout@...> wrote:Some interesting reading re.
PVC
   and compressed air.
     http://www.osha.gov/dts/hib/hib_data/hib19880520.html

     --- PhreeqMeOut <phreeqmeout@...> wrote:
     > I'm no expert but I seriously doubt that duct tape
     > would "Stop" the explosion.  the core issue is the
     > compressability of air compared to liquids like
     > water.
      -snip-


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Depending on how much force you want and how far you want the blast
to go it can very greatly, Iwould say anywhere between 50-150 psi.
Actuall as long as the pvc isnt being used at a place when the air is
being pressureize it should work fine.

dont get me wrong, I am not singing the praises of pvc. I used it because that
is what was handy and it wasnt on an air cannon.  I was just currious if I
understood the use of the air cannon and wondered how much psi we were talking
about?

Corey Minion <csminion@...> wrote:In my case, it will be ABS, not
PVC, Ive been there when "thar she blows"
and it is downright deadly.
granted this is a 2x a year debate/discussion, but I think its wise to keep
fresh in the minds of new haunters (prolly wouldnt hurt some of the old
gaurd either to brush up on some safety)

Gorey

Minions Web Haunt
http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm

Minions Web Hallow-Links List
http://www.hallow-links.com

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Steve Baker [mailto:mr_quest1@...]
   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:03 PM
   To: Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Technical_Insanity] Re: Lets get on to the point


   I am alittle confused. by air cannon are we not talking about shooting a
burst of air at people? after reading the osha doc. it says that pvc
shouldnt be used for more that 100 psi. well how big of air burst is needed?

   PhreeqMeOut <phreeqmeout@...> wrote:Some interesting reading re. PVC
and compressed air.
   http://www.osha.gov/dts/hib/hib_data/hib19880520.html

   --- PhreeqMeOut <phreeqmeout@...> wrote:
   > I'm no expert but I seriously doubt that duct tape
   > would "Stop" the explosion.  the core issue is the
   > compressability of air compared to liquids like
   > water.
    -snip-


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In my case, it will be ABS, not PVC, Ive been there when "thar she blows"
and it is downright deadly.
granted this is a 2x a year debate/discussion, but I think its wise to keep
fresh in the minds of new haunters (prolly wouldnt hurt some of the old
gaurd either to brush up on some safety)

Gorey

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http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm

Minions Web Hallow-Links List
http://www.hallow-links.com

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Steve Baker [mailto:mr_quest1@...]
   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:03 PM
   To: Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Technical_Insanity] Re: Lets get on to the point


   I am alittle confused. by air cannon are we not talking about shooting a
burst of air at people? after reading the osha doc. it says that pvc
shouldnt be used for more that 100 psi. well how big of air burst is needed?

   PhreeqMeOut <phreeqmeout@...> wrote:Some interesting reading re. PVC
and compressed air.
   http://www.osha.gov/dts/hib/hib_data/hib19880520.html

   --- PhreeqMeOut <phreeqmeout@...> wrote:
   > I'm no expert but I seriously doubt that duct tape
   > would "Stop" the explosion.  the core issue is the
   > compressability of air compared to liquids like
   > water.
    -snip-


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I am alittle confused. by air cannon are we not talking about shooting a burst
of air at people? after reading the osha doc. it says that pvc shouldnt be used
for more that 100 psi. well how big of air burst is needed?

PhreeqMeOut <phreeqmeout@...> wrote:Some interesting reading re. PVC and
compressed air.
http://www.osha.gov/dts/hib/hib_data/hib19880520.html

--- PhreeqMeOut <phreeqmeout@...> wrote:
> I'm no expert but I seriously doubt that duct tape
> would "Stop" the explosion.  the core issue is the
> compressability of air compared to liquids like
> water.
>  If a PVC pipe filled with water at 90 psi were to
> burst you'd have a leak.  If the same pipe filled
> with
> air at 90 psi burst you'd have flying shrapnel.
>
> Imagine the following - heck try it out.  Get out
> your
> bike pump - draw the handle up so the pump chamber
> is
> full of air.  Plug or clamp the hose so the air
> can't
> escape - press down on the handle as hard as you
> can.
> You'll notice that the handle is spongy and you can
> press it down quite a way as the air compresses to
> the
> limit of your strength.  Now - make sure your chin
> is
> out of the way and suddenly release the handle.  The
> handle should pop up back close to it's original
> position.  The handle pops up because of the stored
> energy in the compressed air.
>
> Now fill your bathtub with water- put your bike pump
> in the tub and hold it underwater.  Push the handle
> all the way down to expell all the air and then draw
> it all the way up to fill the chamber with water.
> Clamp or plug the end of the hose and press down on
> the handle with all your strength.  You'll notice
> that
> the handle did not sink very far if at all.  Now
> suddenly let go of the handle - it should barely
> move
> i.e. there is no or very little stored energy in the
> compressed water.
>
> From this experiment we can observe that air is very
> compressable and can store energy whereas water is
> virtually uncrompressable and stores very little
> energy.
>
> What does all this mean - it means that the same
> volume of air (a bike pump full) can be squeezed
> into
> a smaller area than can a bike pump full of water.
> Some of the energy expended/used in the squeeze
> process is stored in the compressed air and can be
> used later to move objects i.e. make PVC fly like
> shrapnel.
>
> Consider this - fill a ballon with water and pop it
> -
> it just kinda splushes and gets your hands wet.
> Fill
> another ballon of similar size and shape with air
> then
> pop it - it explodes and makes a large sound - why?
> because the volume of air compressed in the ballon
> is
> greater than the volume of water (essentally
> uncompressed water) so it explodes with more force
> when released all at one time.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> --- thevampireupier <thevampireupier@...>
> wrote:
> > I thought one of the solutions was just wrap the
> PVC
> > in duct tape?
> > That should stop the explosion?
> >
> > --- In Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com, "Corey
> > Minion"
> > <csminion@m...> wrote:
> > > Last relevant topic I recall from MoM was the
> > fiberglass encasing
> > of Grims
> > > making or the spud/air cannon.
> > > Anyone know if the fiberglass resins would
> attack
> > the PVC he is
> > using
> > > reducing the integrity of the wall strength and
> > safety?
> > > Later today I intend to visit Lowes and procure
> a
> > bit of ABS to
> > take away
> > > the fatigue issue (rather have it just blow a
> > split thru the wall
> > than
> > > explode into shards if it fails under pressure)
> > and see if a multi
> > port
> > > exhausting solenoid will let it operate with
> some
> > tie ins to
> > automation.
> > >
> > > Gorey
> > >
> > > Minions Web Haunt
> > > http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm
> > >
> > > Minions Web Hallow-Links List
> > > http://www.hallow-links.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Ah fellow explosives decompression afficianado, makes me proud.
Folks who know me from the Halloween-L know my opinion on using compressed
air in any PVC, in few words, dont risk your life.

ABS is comporable in cost, and PSI rating, but onluy splits or bubbles on
failure, copper, steel or iron, doubtful it will burst, so far safer, but
cost goes up.

Just think how terrible you would feel if one of your guest was used thanks
to a piece of duct tape wrapped PVC let go.

*climbing off pedestal*

Gorey

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   -----Original Message-----
   From: PhreeqMeOut [mailto:phreeqmeout@...]
   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:36 PM
   To: Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Technical_Insanity] Re: Lets get on to the point


   I'm no expert but I seriously doubt that duct tape
   would "Stop" the explosion.  the core issue is the
   compressability of air compared to liquids like water.
   If a PVC pipe filled with water at 90 psi were to
   burst you'd have a leak.  If the same pipe filled with
   air at 90 psi burst you'd have flying shrapnel.

   Imagine the following - heck try it out.  Get out your
   bike pump - draw the handle up so the pump chamber is
   full of air.  Plug or clamp the hose so the air can't
   escape - press down on the handle as hard as you can.
   You'll notice that the handle is spongy and you can
   press it down quite a way as the air compresses to the
   limit of your strength.  Now - make sure your chin is
   out of the way and suddenly release the handle.  The
   handle should pop up back close to it's original
   position.  The handle pops up because of the stored
   energy in the compressed air.

   Now fill your bathtub with water- put your bike pump
   in the tub and hold it underwater.  Push the handle
   all the way down to expell all the air and then draw
   it all the way up to fill the chamber with water.
   Clamp or plug the end of the hose and press down on
   the handle with all your strength.  You'll notice that
   the handle did not sink very far if at all.  Now
   suddenly let go of the handle - it should barely move
   i.e. there is no or very little stored energy in the
   compressed water.

   >From this experiment we can observe that air is very
   compressable and can store energy whereas water is
   virtually uncrompressable and stores very little
   energy.

   What does all this mean - it means that the same
   volume of air (a bike pump full) can be squeezed into
   a smaller area than can a bike pump full of water.
   Some of the energy expended/used in the squeeze
   process is stored in the compressed air and can be
   used later to move objects i.e. make PVC fly like
   shrapnel.

   Consider this - fill a ballon with water and pop it -
   it just kinda splushes and gets your hands wet.  Fill
   another ballon of similar size and shape with air then
   pop it - it explodes and makes a large sound - why?
   because the volume of air compressed in the ballon is
   greater than the volume of water (essentally
   uncompressed water) so it explodes with more force
   when released all at one time.

   Hope this helps.



   --- thevampireupier <thevampireupier@...> wrote:
   > I thought one of the solutions was just wrap the PVC
   > in duct tape?
   > That should stop the explosion?
   >
   > --- In Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com, "Corey
   > Minion"
   > <csminion@m...> wrote:
   > > Last relevant topic I recall from MoM was the
   > fiberglass encasing
   > of Grims
   > > making or the spud/air cannon.
   > > Anyone know if the fiberglass resins would attack
   > the PVC he is
   > using
   > > reducing the integrity of the wall strength and
   > safety?
   > > Later today I intend to visit Lowes and procure a
   > bit of ABS to
   > take away
   > > the fatigue issue (rather have it just blow a
   > split thru the wall
   > than
   > > explode into shards if it fails under pressure)
   > and see if a multi
   > port
   > > exhausting solenoid will let it operate with some
   > tie ins to
   > automation.
   > >
   > > Gorey
   > >
   > > Minions Web Haunt
   > > http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm
   > >
   > > Minions Web Hallow-Links List
   > > http://www.hallow-links.com
   >
   >
   >


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It helps but I've ruined my bicycle pump....
You're quite correct, and I've tinkered with powering some simple props with
bungee cords that are triggered by an actor, then reset by them after the TOTs
pass on to the next scare, for the very reason that pneumatics can be dangerous
if you don't really go "by the book" on the safety, just like working with
pyrotechnics. There are no shortcuts.


Scott in SF


-----Original Message-----
From: PhreeqMeOut [mailto:phreeqmeout@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:36 PM
To: Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Technical_Insanity] Re: Lets get on to the point



I'm no expert but I seriously doubt that duct tape
would "Stop" the explosion.  the core issue is the
compressability of air compared to liquids like water.
If a PVC pipe filled with water at 90 psi were to
burst you'd have a leak.  If the same pipe filled with
air at 90 psi burst you'd have flying shrapnel.

Imagine the following - heck try it out.  Get out your
bike pump - draw the handle up so the pump chamber is
full of air.  Plug or clamp the hose so the air can't
escape - press down on the handle as hard as you can.
You'll notice that the handle is spongy and you can
press it down quite a way as the air compresses to the
limit of your strength.  Now - make sure your chin is
out of the way and suddenly release the handle.  The
handle should pop up back close to it's original
position.  The handle pops up because of the stored
energy in the compressed air.

Now fill your bathtub with water- put your bike pump
in the tub and hold it underwater.  Push the handle
all the way down to expell all the air and then draw
it all the way up to fill the chamber with water.
Clamp or plug the end of the hose and press down on
the handle with all your strength.  You'll notice that
the handle did not sink very far if at all.  Now
suddenly let go of the handle - it should barely move
i.e. there is no or very little stored energy in the
compressed water.

From this experiment we can observe that air is very
compressable and can store energy whereas water is
virtually uncrompressable and stores very little
energy.

What does all this mean - it means that the same
volume of air (a bike pump full) can be squeezed into
a smaller area than can a bike pump full of water.
Some of the energy expended/used in the squeeze
process is stored in the compressed air and can be
used later to move objects i.e. make PVC fly like
shrapnel.

Consider this - fill a ballon with water and pop it -
it just kinda splushes and gets your hands wet.  Fill
another ballon of similar size and shape with air then
pop it - it explodes and makes a large sound - why?
because the volume of air compressed in the ballon is
greater than the volume of water (essentally
uncompressed water) so it explodes with more force
when released all at one time.

Hope this helps.



--- thevampireupier <thevampireupier@...> wrote:
> I thought one of the solutions was just wrap the PVC
> in duct tape?
> That should stop the explosion?
>
> --- In Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com, "Corey
> Minion"
> <csminion@m...> wrote:
> > Last relevant topic I recall from MoM was the
> fiberglass encasing
> of Grims
> > making or the spud/air cannon.
> > Anyone know if the fiberglass resins would attack
> the PVC he is
> using
> > reducing the integrity of the wall strength and
> safety?
> > Later today I intend to visit Lowes and procure a
> bit of ABS to
> take away
> > the fatigue issue (rather have it just blow a
> split thru the wall
> than
> > explode into shards if it fails under pressure)
> and see if a multi
> port
> > exhausting solenoid will let it operate with some
> tie ins to
> automation.
> >
> > Gorey
> >
> > Minions Web Haunt
> > http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm <http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm>
> >
> > Minions Web Hallow-Links List
> > http://www.hallow-links.com <http://www.hallow-links.com>
>
>
>


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Some interesting reading re. PVC and compressed air.
http://www.osha.gov/dts/hib/hib_data/hib19880520.html

--- PhreeqMeOut <phreeqmeout@...> wrote:
> I'm no expert but I seriously doubt that duct tape
> would "Stop" the explosion.  the core issue is the
> compressability of air compared to liquids like
> water.
>  If a PVC pipe filled with water at 90 psi were to
> burst you'd have a leak.  If the same pipe filled
> with
> air at 90 psi burst you'd have flying shrapnel.
>
> Imagine the following - heck try it out.  Get out
> your
> bike pump - draw the handle up so the pump chamber
> is
> full of air.  Plug or clamp the hose so the air
> can't
> escape - press down on the handle as hard as you
> can.
> You'll notice that the handle is spongy and you can
> press it down quite a way as the air compresses to
> the
> limit of your strength.  Now - make sure your chin
> is
> out of the way and suddenly release the handle.  The
> handle should pop up back close to it's original
> position.  The handle pops up because of the stored
> energy in the compressed air.
>
> Now fill your bathtub with water- put your bike pump
> in the tub and hold it underwater.  Push the handle
> all the way down to expell all the air and then draw
> it all the way up to fill the chamber with water.
> Clamp or plug the end of the hose and press down on
> the handle with all your strength.  You'll notice
> that
> the handle did not sink very far if at all.  Now
> suddenly let go of the handle - it should barely
> move
> i.e. there is no or very little stored energy in the
> compressed water.
>
> From this experiment we can observe that air is very
> compressable and can store energy whereas water is
> virtually uncrompressable and stores very little
> energy.
>
> What does all this mean - it means that the same
> volume of air (a bike pump full) can be squeezed
> into
> a smaller area than can a bike pump full of water.
> Some of the energy expended/used in the squeeze
> process is stored in the compressed air and can be
> used later to move objects i.e. make PVC fly like
> shrapnel.
>
> Consider this - fill a ballon with water and pop it
> -
> it just kinda splushes and gets your hands wet.
> Fill
> another ballon of similar size and shape with air
> then
> pop it - it explodes and makes a large sound - why?
> because the volume of air compressed in the ballon
> is
> greater than the volume of water (essentally
> uncompressed water) so it explodes with more force
> when released all at one time.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> --- thevampireupier <thevampireupier@...>
> wrote:
> > I thought one of the solutions was just wrap the
> PVC
> > in duct tape?
> > That should stop the explosion?
> >
> > --- In Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com, "Corey
> > Minion"
> > <csminion@m...> wrote:
> > > Last relevant topic I recall from MoM was the
> > fiberglass encasing
> > of Grims
> > > making or the spud/air cannon.
> > > Anyone know if the fiberglass resins would
> attack
> > the PVC he is
> > using
> > > reducing the integrity of the wall strength and
> > safety?
> > > Later today I intend to visit Lowes and procure
> a
> > bit of ABS to
> > take away
> > > the fatigue issue (rather have it just blow a
> > split thru the wall
> > than
> > > explode into shards if it fails under pressure)
> > and see if a multi
> > port
> > > exhausting solenoid will let it operate with
> some
> > tie ins to
> > automation.
> > >
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> > >
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I'm no expert but I seriously doubt that duct tape
would "Stop" the explosion.  the core issue is the
compressability of air compared to liquids like water.
  If a PVC pipe filled with water at 90 psi were to
burst you'd have a leak.  If the same pipe filled with
air at 90 psi burst you'd have flying shrapnel.

Imagine the following - heck try it out.  Get out your
bike pump - draw the handle up so the pump chamber is
full of air.  Plug or clamp the hose so the air can't
escape - press down on the handle as hard as you can.
You'll notice that the handle is spongy and you can
press it down quite a way as the air compresses to the
limit of your strength.  Now - make sure your chin is
out of the way and suddenly release the handle.  The
handle should pop up back close to it's original
position.  The handle pops up because of the stored
energy in the compressed air.

Now fill your bathtub with water- put your bike pump
in the tub and hold it underwater.  Push the handle
all the way down to expell all the air and then draw
it all the way up to fill the chamber with water.
Clamp or plug the end of the hose and press down on
the handle with all your strength.  You'll notice that
the handle did not sink very far if at all.  Now
suddenly let go of the handle - it should barely move
i.e. there is no or very little stored energy in the
compressed water.

From this experiment we can observe that air is very
compressable and can store energy whereas water is
virtually uncrompressable and stores very little
energy.

What does all this mean - it means that the same
volume of air (a bike pump full) can be squeezed into
a smaller area than can a bike pump full of water.
Some of the energy expended/used in the squeeze
process is stored in the compressed air and can be
used later to move objects i.e. make PVC fly like
shrapnel.

Consider this - fill a ballon with water and pop it -
it just kinda splushes and gets your hands wet.  Fill
another ballon of similar size and shape with air then
pop it - it explodes and makes a large sound - why?
because the volume of air compressed in the ballon is
greater than the volume of water (essentally
uncompressed water) so it explodes with more force
when released all at one time.

Hope this helps.



--- thevampireupier <thevampireupier@...> wrote:
> I thought one of the solutions was just wrap the PVC
> in duct tape?
> That should stop the explosion?
>
> --- In Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com, "Corey
> Minion"
> <csminion@m...> wrote:
> > Last relevant topic I recall from MoM was the
> fiberglass encasing
> of Grims
> > making or the spud/air cannon.
> > Anyone know if the fiberglass resins would attack
> the PVC he is
> using
> > reducing the integrity of the wall strength and
> safety?
> > Later today I intend to visit Lowes and procure a
> bit of ABS to
> take away
> > the fatigue issue (rather have it just blow a
> split thru the wall
> than
> > explode into shards if it fails under pressure)
> and see if a multi
> port
> > exhausting solenoid will let it operate with some
> tie ins to
> automation.
> >
> > Gorey
> >
> > Minions Web Haunt
> > http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm
> >
> > Minions Web Hallow-Links List
> > http://www.hallow-links.com
>
>
>


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scott, this year will be my third year haunting. It started out as a halloween
party for the kids and keeps growing every year. My first project was a trashcan
trama.( a witch poping out of a trashcan) it worked on remote, it took me 2
months to get it working. hahhaa. but after making the cylinder out of pvc,
working out the air silinoid and exhaust, I was hooked.
"Keck, Scott" <keck@...> wrote: Hola!
I'll be lurking and learning, as my haunts have so far been low-tech, except for
the sound/lights & fog.

However, now that I have my OWN garage and even a workbench, I hope to try and
get into pneumatics for Halloween '04!

Scott in SF


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--- In Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com, "thevampireupier"
<thevampireupier@y...> wrote:
> I thought one of the solutions was just wrap the PVC in duct tape?
> That should stop the explosion?
>
Hey
im new to the list but not to technical work. Im an electronics tech.
and am working for the Eleventh Hour.
Wrapping the Pipe in duct tape does work but the problem with doing
that is you cant tell when the pipe is cracking. It will still
explode but the duct tape will stop the pipe from shooting all over
the room.

Ben Fox

I am thinking it was a digital, it belonged to a friend, but dark images with
white outlines, and wow what scary eyes everone had. I will find out for sure
and let you know. the camera belongs to a friend of mine.

Corey Minion <csminion@...> wrote:Is that the digital or anolog sony
cam?
I keep hearing that the nightshot on the digital isnt up to par with the
analog version.

Supposedly, the new Sony' have improved on it (report from the CE show on
The Screen Savers)

Ah, one of these days I might be able to get a new vid cam (mine is from the
80s, and must be hardwired to a VCR)

Gorey

Minions Web Haunt
http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm

Minions Web Hallow-Links List
http://www.hallow-links.com

   -----Original Message-----
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   To: Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Technical_Insanity] And in the beginning, there was Insanity


   last halloween we used a sony camcorder with nitevision. it produced some
...."funny"... effects. it looked like a negitive. but I havent tried the
one form x10.

   Corey S Minion <csminion@...> wrote:OK, I will get the ball
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Hola!
I'll be lurking and learning, as my haunts have so far been low-tech, except for
the sound/lights & fog.

However, now that I have my OWN garage and even a workbench, I hope to try and
get into pneumatics for Halloween '04!

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hi dyanna, glade to have you aboard

Dyanna <dyanna9164@...> wrote:
Hi, I'm Here,
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I thought one of the solutions was just wrap the PVC in duct tape?
That should stop the explosion?

--- In Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com, "Corey Minion"
<csminion@m...> wrote:
> Last relevant topic I recall from MoM was the fiberglass encasing
of Grims
> making or the spud/air cannon.
> Anyone know if the fiberglass resins would attack the PVC he is
using
> reducing the integrity of the wall strength and safety?
> Later today I intend to visit Lowes and procure a bit of ABS to
take away
> the fatigue issue (rather have it just blow a split thru the wall
than
> explode into shards if it fails under pressure) and see if a multi
port
> exhausting solenoid will let it operate with some tie ins to
automation.
>
> Gorey
>
> Minions Web Haunt
> http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm
>
> Minions Web Hallow-Links List
> http://www.hallow-links.com

The hallow-links list is sorely in need of updating, of which I am almost
doing (been revamping all of Minions Web)
But there are resources that arent on Monster list, and from my last
persusal of ML resources that arent on H-LL
Gorey

Minions Web Haunt
http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm

Minions Web Hallow-Links List
http://www.hallow-links.com

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   From: Scary Terry [mailto:scaryterry@...]
   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 2:54 PM
   To: Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Technical_Insanity] New Member: Newbie Tech



   Neena,
   If you haven't already found them, there are a couple of excellent sources
for ideas, how-to's, etc.
   They are the Monsterlist of Halloween Projects and Corey Minion's
Hallow-Links List.

   Terry

     I'd be happy for any responses or information that anyone that can
     point me to somewhere on the web for resources.  I'd like to ask if
     you techies have any favorite websites (for research or shopping)?


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Neena,
If you haven't already found them, there are a couple of excellent sources for
ideas, how-to's, etc.
They are the Monsterlist of Halloween Projects and Corey Minion's Hallow-Links
List.

Terry

   I'd be happy for any responses or information that anyone that can
   point me to somewhere on the web for resources.  I'd like to ask if
   you techies have any favorite websites (for research or shopping)?


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I've got an analog Sony and a digital Canon and the Sony is superior for night
shots.  I know this isn't a scientific sampling, just the experience I've had.
Scary Terry
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   Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:51 PM
   Subject: RE: [Technical_Insanity] And in the beginning, there was Insanity


   Is that the digital or anolog sony cam?
   I keep hearing that the nightshot on the digital isnt up to par with the
   analog version.

   Supposedly, the new Sony' have improved on it (report from the CE show on
   The Screen Savers)

   Ah, one of these days I might be able to get a new vid cam (mine is from the
   80s, and must be hardwired to a VCR)

   Gorey


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Hi Everyone,

I'm a member of the Feature Creatures (www.featurecreatures.com) of
Central Ohio.  I have a technical computer background; but only the
start of technical aspects of haunted attractions.  I'm highly
interested in this forum!  I don't expect to contribute much; but
really appreciate having this specific forum to learn from and
occasionally ask very basic technical questions.

I'd be happy for any responses or information that anyone that can
point me to somewhere on the web for resources.  I'd like to ask if
you techies have any favorite websites (for research or shopping)?

I'd like to contribute the one resource, which is a product, that
I'm familar with: the HAG (Haunted Ambiance Generator) sound
engineering software.  Okay, it's the only one I've used but it is
easy to use for someone without a background.  I'd be interested in
others' HAG experiences, reviews and/or references to similar
products.

The website is: http://www.13trackshalloweencd.com.  The demented
man behind this is Dave, a heck of a nice guy - and I'd give the
technical support for this product and outstanding rating!  I had
computer issues at the last minute of September, and Dave spent all
the time I needed to get the soundtracks for the haunt done for
opening in October.

Thank you Cory for the information to join, posted on the FrightFX
Group (makeup interest).

Best regards,
Neena

Time to pass on the debate, pro/cons, etc of forums, since this is a Prop
Builders list, not a forum discussion list.

Last relevant topic I recall from MoM was the fiberglass encasing of Grims
making or the spud/air cannon.
Anyone know if the fiberglass resins would attack the PVC he is using
reducing the integrity of the wall strength and safety?
Later today I intend to visit Lowes and procure a bit of ABS to take away
the fatigue issue (rather have it just blow a split thru the wall than
explode into shards if it fails under pressure) and see if a multi port
exhausting solenoid will let it operate with some tie ins to automation.

Gorey

Minions Web Haunt
http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm

Minions Web Hallow-Links List
http://www.hallow-links.com
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   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 10:15 AM
   To: Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [Technical_Insanity] Re: hey guys


   --- In Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com, "Dyanna" <dyanna9164@s...>
   wrote:
   > --- In Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com, "Corey Minion"
   > <csminion@m...> wrote:
   > > I know how you feel, I just cant take all the time noodling
   around
   > in forum,
   > > I hear yuh, this is much quicker, I hope more people move over
   but
   > I will still be loyal to MOM because I got a huge amount of help
   > from the people over there.
   >    Dyanna...

   I could never get used the forums. I spend way too much time. But I
   will always check it out when I'm on-line.
     Andy


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--- In Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com, "Dyanna" <dyanna9164@s...>
wrote:
> --- In Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com, "Corey Minion"
> <csminion@m...> wrote:
> > I know how you feel, I just cant take all the time noodling
around
> in forum,
> > I hear yuh, this is much quicker, I hope more people move over
but
> I will still be loyal to MOM because I got a huge amount of help
> from the people over there.
>    Dyanna...

I could never get used the forums. I spend way too much time. But I
will always check it out when I'm on-line.
   Andy

--- In Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com, "Corey Minion"
<csminion@m...> wrote:
> I know how you feel, I just cant take all the time noodling around
in forum,
> I hear yuh, this is much quicker, I hope more people move over but
I will still be loyal to MOM because I got a huge amount of help
from the people over there.
    Dyanna...

I know how you feel, I just cant take all the time noodling around in forum,
perhaps once the bugs are worked out.....

In the meanwhile, hopefully this will fill the gap, and act as a compliment
to the forum.

Gorey

Minions Web Haunt
http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm

Minions Web Hallow-Links List
http://www.hallow-links.com

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   From: Tom [mailto:tbardash@...]
   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:08 AM
   To: Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [Technical_Insanity] hey guys


   i tried and tried and tried.  the new MoM is better in many ways.
   but i just can't get used to it.  i find myself waisting way too much
   time sifting through threads in there.  it's a great board and i'll
   remain a member there, but this board is like an old shoe and i'll
   probably interact on this more often.

   thanks for setting it up.

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i tried and tried and tried.  the new MoM is better in many ways.
but i just can't get used to it.  i find myself waisting way too much
time sifting through threads in there.  it's a great board and i'll
remain a member there, but this board is like an old shoe and i'll
probably interact on this more often.

thanks for setting it up.

-tom bardash

Is that the digital or anolog sony cam?
I keep hearing that the nightshot on the digital isnt up to par with the
analog version.

Supposedly, the new Sony' have improved on it (report from the CE show on
The Screen Savers)

Ah, one of these days I might be able to get a new vid cam (mine is from the
80s, and must be hardwired to a VCR)

Gorey

Minions Web Haunt
http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm

Minions Web Hallow-Links List
http://www.hallow-links.com

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   From: Steve Baker [mailto:mr_quest1@...]
   Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:01 PM
   To: Technical_Insanity@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Technical_Insanity] And in the beginning, there was Insanity


   last halloween we used a sony camcorder with nitevision. it produced some
...."funny"... effects. it looked like a negitive. but I havent tried the
one form x10.

   Corey S Minion <csminion@...> wrote:OK, I will get the ball
rolling, has anyof the gang of 4 who have
   joined used the nightcam from x10 with a supplementary illuminator?


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Hi, I'm Here,
   Dyanna......

Yeah, I know the cam sucks, bought 3 on a lark when they screwed up pricing
2 years back (got all 3 for 60 bucks).
You tried an extra IR (infra-red illuminator? Did it help any in low/no
light situations?

I was considering trying IRs to get some useful vids of the kids as they go
thru the haunt up to the door, some of the faces on these kids are to die
for (and some of the adults are classic too).

Hmmm, now that I think about it, I believe I have a single IR in my cache of
stuff.
off to the shop to see if I remember right or the alzhiemers is kicking in.

Gorey

Minions Web Haunt
http://www.minionsweb.com/haunt.htm

Minions Web Hallow-Links List
http://www.hallow-links.com

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   Yup!  It's junk!

   Smokey
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last halloween we used a sony camcorder with nitevision. it produced some
...."funny"... effects. it looked like a negitive. but I havent tried the one
form x10.

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has anyof the gang of 4 who have
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Yup!  It's junk!

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OK, I will get the ball rolling, has anyof the gang of 4 who have
joined used the nightcam from x10 with a supplementary illuminator?