Gang;

Best wishes to all for a great Thanksgiving. If any are traveling this holiday
to family and friends, safe journeys and looking forward to more discussions.

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at one
period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which impels them--the
desire to do right--is precisely the same. The circumstances which govern their
actions change; and their conduct must conform to the new order of things." --
Robert E. Lee




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Same to you Gerry and all the rest of the Talk Antietam family.



Paula



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From: "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...>
To: "CWDG" <cwdg@yahoogroups.com>, "TalkAntietam Group"
<TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:59:21 PM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re Thanksgiving

Gang;

Best wishes to all for a great Thanksgiving. If any are traveling this holiday
to family and friends, safe journeys and looking forward to more discussions.

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at one
period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which impels them--the
desire to do right--is precisely the same. The circumstances which govern their
actions change; and their conduct must conform to the new order of things." --
Robert E. Lee




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Gang;

With today being Thanksgiving and thinking of all the service personnel
scattered so far and wide and away from their families, I am reminded of what
Rufus R Dawes, Captain commanding Company K of the Sixth Wisconsin Volunteer
Infantry in 1861 wrote about the day in the field:

"On the twenty-eighth of November, the regimental mess, composed of the field,
staff and line officers, had a Thanksgiving dinner. We had built a large log
dining hall, which was very comfortable, although home made. Our dinner was no
small affair. Colonel Cutler also made each company in the regiment,
the happy recipient of twenty mince pies, about a quarter of a pie to each man.
I here obtained a leave of absence for ten days, for a visit to Ohio."

On this day, as we gather to give our thanks, let us remember all our service
men and women who would wish nothing more than to be gathered with their
families and friends. Let us pray they all return to us, safe and sound.

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at one
period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which impels them--the
desire to do right--is precisely the same. The circumstances which govern their
actions change; and their conduct must conform to the new order of things." --
Robert E. Lee




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Subject: Happy Thanksgiving





   Happy Thanksgiving to you Antietam ers and your Family on this great American
Holiday !!


   May your stuffing be tasty
   May your turkey plump,
   May your potatoes and gravy
   Have never a lump.
   May your yams be delicious
   And your pies take the prize,
   And may your Thanksgiving dinner
   Stay off your thighs!


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Hi Gerry,
  Just a note. I finished your book a bit ago and never got around to writing
you. I thought it was well done and entertaining. I am not a Civil War fanatic
but I do know who is who on either side. I am Virginia born and have lived in MA
almost all of my life. As my wife says about my Civil War wanderings, "they are
all dead, your side lost, get over it". Obviously, not a Civil War fan. I have
spent quite a bit of time hiking in the area so I know the lay of the land. It
was interesting to put the places in the book to places today. All in all, great
effort.

History seems more interesting from a personal standpoint.

thanks again and great effort.
Jeff Lamoureaux

So, whatever happened to the good looking lady in Frederick.


________________________________
  From: G E Mayers <gerry1952@...>
To: CWDG <cwdg@yahoogroups.com>; TalkAntietam Group
<TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Thanksgiving


 
Gang;

With today being Thanksgiving and thinking of all the service personnel
scattered so far and wide and away from their families, I am reminded of what
Rufus R Dawes, Captain commanding Company K of the Sixth Wisconsin Volunteer
Infantry in 1861 wrote about the day in the field:

"On the twenty-eighth of November, the regimental mess, composed of the field,
staff and line officers, had a Thanksgiving dinner. We had built a large log
dining hall, which was very comfortable, although home made. Our dinner was no
small affair. Colonel Cutler also made each company in the regiment,
the happy recipient of twenty mince pies, about a quarter of a pie to each man.
I here obtained a leave of absence for ten days, for a visit to Ohio."

On this day, as we gather to give our thanks, let us remember all our service
men and women who would wish nothing more than to be gathered with their
families and friends. Let us pray they all return to us, safe and sound.

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at one
period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which impels them--the
desire to do right--is precisely the same. The circumstances which govern their
actions change; and their conduct must conform to the new order of things." --
Robert E. Lee

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Jeff,

Thank you.. please post a review on whichever site you purchased the novel from
if you can.

I wrote None But Heroes to be entertaining etc for the avid CW buff as well as
someone more like yourself.

As to your question, which good looking lady in Frederick were you asking about?
I started a blog on the novel's historical background and will be going through
the novel and posting on the actual historical incidents etc that are in the
novel, whether whole or in part.

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers

http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/

"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at one
period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which impels them--the
desire to do right--is precisely the same. The circumstances which govern their
actions change; and their conduct must conform to the new order of things." --
Robert E. Lee



   -----Original Message-----
   From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Jeff Lamoureaux
   Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 9:49 AM
   To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Thanksgiving



   Hi Gerry,
     Just a note. I finished your book a bit ago and never got around to writing
you. I thought it was well done and entertaining. I am not a Civil War fanatic
but I do know who is who on either side. I am Virginia born and have lived in MA
almost all of my life. As my wife says about my Civil War wanderings, "they are
all dead, your side lost, get over it". Obviously, not a Civil War fan. I have
spent quite a bit of time hiking in the area so I know the lay of the land. It
was interesting to put the places in the book to places today. All in all, great
effort.

   History seems more interesting from a personal standpoint.

   thanks again and great effort.
   Jeff Lamoureaux

   So, whatever happened to the good looking lady in Frederick.

   ________________________________
   From: G E Mayers <gerry1952@...>
   To: CWDG <cwdg@yahoogroups.com>; TalkAntietam Group
<TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 12:20 PM
   Subject: [TalkAntietam] Thanksgiving



   Gang;

   With today being Thanksgiving and thinking of all the service personnel
scattered so far and wide and away from their families, I am reminded of what
Rufus R Dawes, Captain commanding Company K of the Sixth Wisconsin Volunteer
Infantry in 1861 wrote about the day in the field:

   "On the twenty-eighth of November, the regimental mess, composed of the field,
staff and line officers, had a Thanksgiving dinner. We had built a large log
dining hall, which was very comfortable, although home made. Our dinner was no
small affair. Colonel Cutler also made each company in the regiment,
   the happy recipient of twenty mince pies, about a quarter of a pie to each
man. I here obtained a leave of absence for ten days, for a visit to Ohio."

   On this day, as we gather to give our thanks, let us remember all our service
men and women who would wish nothing more than to be gathered with their
families and friends. Let us pray they all return to us, safe and sound.

   Yr. Obt. Svt.
   G E "Gerry" Mayers

   "True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at one
period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which impels them--the
desire to do right--is precisely the same. The circumstances which govern their
actions change; and their conduct must conform to the new order of things." --
Robert E. Lee

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Hi, Folks.

Can someone kindly identify which bridges were supported by the two sets of
stone ruins on the Potomac between the Route 34 bridge and the Norfolk Southern
Railroad bridge? From what I've read:

The first covered bridge was burned by Confederates in 1861.

The second covered bridge, built by John Wood in 1871, was destroyed in the 1889
flood.

An iron bridge replaced John Wood's bridge, but was destroyed by the 1936 flood.

A bridge dedicated to James Rumsey was built in 1939; when the current bridge
opened in 2005, the 1939 bridge was destroyed with explosives.

One set of ruins is just east of Route 34, while the other is farther east,
located just before the railroad bridge.

Thanks,

Steve

Comparing the Michler map from LOC with Google Earth, today's Canal Rd. is the
old alingment of the Boonsboro-Shepherdstown Pke (Rt. 34). That means the piers
were from an earlier road bridge likely the bridge burned by Jackson in 1861.
The piers closer to today's RR bridge are probably an earlier RR bridge but I
haven't found corroboration. The RR wasn't built there in 1867 or earlier.

--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "cowie_steve" <cowie_steve@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Folks.
>
> Can someone kindly identify which bridges were supported by the two sets of
stone ruins on the Potomac between the Route 34 bridge and the Norfolk Southern
Railroad bridge? From what I've read:
>
> The first covered bridge was burned by Confederates in 1861.
>
> The second covered bridge, built by John Wood in 1871, was destroyed in the
1889 flood.
>
> An iron bridge replaced John Wood's bridge, but was destroyed by the 1936
flood.
>
> A bridge dedicated to James Rumsey was built in 1939; when the current bridge
opened in 2005, the 1939 bridge was destroyed with explosives.
>
> One set of ruins is just east of Route 34, while the other is farther east,
located just before the railroad bridge.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>

I believe that Pleasant Valley is the name given to the valley between South
Mountain and Elk Ridge given all the sources I've read. The valley to the east
of South Mountain between it and the  Catoctin Mountains I've seen named
Middletown Valley or Catoctin Valley. If anyone has sources showing otherwise,
please let me know. I know that standing on places on the Catoctin Mountains and
looking west to South Mountain, the pleasant valley between should be renamed
Pleasant Valley.

Also, opera lovers to the contrary, our famous authority re the Maryland
Campaign is spelled "Carman" not "Carmen." Easy mistake to make.

I'm still finding typos, etc., in my cav book, which I plan on correcting in my
second edition.

Larry

Hi, Larry.

Thanks for your input. I did some further searching and your theory about the
railroad bridge is correct: the current RR bridge spanning the Potomac is the
Norfolk Southern, built in 1904. The piers next to it supported an earlier
railroad bridge that was built in 1880.

Thanks,

Steve

--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "eighth_conn_inf" <eighth_conn_inf@...>
wrote:
>
> Comparing the Michler map from LOC with Google Earth, today's Canal Rd. is the
old alingment of the Boonsboro-Shepherdstown Pke (Rt. 34). That means the piers
were from an earlier road bridge likely the bridge burned by Jackson in 1861.
The piers closer to today's RR bridge are probably an earlier RR bridge but I
haven't found corroboration. The RR wasn't built there in 1867 or earlier.
>
> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "cowie_steve" <cowie_steve@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Folks.
> >
> > Can someone kindly identify which bridges were supported by the two sets of
stone ruins on the Potomac between the Route 34 bridge and the Norfolk Southern
Railroad bridge? From what I've read:
> >
> > The first covered bridge was burned by Confederates in 1861.
> >
> > The second covered bridge, built by John Wood in 1871, was destroyed in the
1889 flood.
> >
> > An iron bridge replaced John Wood's bridge, but was destroyed by the 1936
flood.
> >
> > A bridge dedicated to James Rumsey was built in 1939; when the current
bridge opened in 2005, the 1939 bridge was destroyed with explosives.
> >
> > One set of ruins is just east of Route 34, while the other is farther east,
located just before the railroad bridge.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve
> >
>

Dear All,

I would like to wish you all a Very Merry Christmas and a most blessed New Year.
Now that we have (apparently) all survived the Mayan Apocalypse and the start of
the 14th Baktun heralding a new age and a new beginning, let us be thankful for
our friends, family and mutual interests.

May 2013 be more than just a year to commemorate Chancellorsville, Vicksburg,
Gettysburg and Chickamauga... may we see a redoubling of efforts at preservation
of endangered Civil War sites, large and small.

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers
https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers
http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/

"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at one
period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which impels them--the
desire to do right--is precisely the same. The circumstances which govern their
actions change; and their conduct must conform to the new order of things." --
Robert E. Lee

Same to you Gerry and everyone else.


Paula

----- Original Message -----
From: "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...>
To: "CWDG" <cwdg@yahoogroups.com>, "TalkAntietam Group"
<TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Christmas Wishes

Dear All,

I would like to wish you all a Very Merry Christmas and a most blessed New Year.
Now that we have (apparently) all survived the Mayan Apocalypse and the start of
the 14th Baktun heralding a new age and a new beginning, let us be thankful for
our friends, family and mutual interests.

May 2013 be more than just a year to commemorate Chancellorsville, Vicksburg,
Gettysburg and Chickamauga... may we see a redoubling of efforts at preservation
of endangered Civil War sites, large and small.

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers
https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers
http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/

"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at one
period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which impels them--the
desire to do right--is precisely the same. The circumstances which govern their
actions change; and their conduct must conform to the new order of things." --
Robert E. Lee



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Happy Holidays to all Talk Antietam members and fellow ACW enthusiasts.

Larry

Gang,

After the New Year I plan to start a companion novel to my first novel None But
Heroes. This second novel will examine the same Maryland Campaign but through
the eyes of a veteran of the Irish Brigade, part of Richardson's division of the
2nd Corps, Army of the Potomac.

I have some questions I need some assistance with answering:

1. Did the 2nd Corps under Sumner take any active part at all in the 2nd Bull
Run campaign? If it did, what role did it play and to what extent?

2. IIRC the 2nd Corps helped anchor the left flank of the advance of the AoP
from Washington City, thereby securing the Potomac River part of Maryland from
any feared Confederate invasion of Washington City. (This was a big bugbear for
General in Chief Halleck as well as Secretary of War Stanton.)

3. When did the 2nd Corps concentrate near Frederick and what was sits order of
march when the 9th Corps made its advance towards Turner's and Fox's Gaps on
South Mountain and the subsequent fighting there?

4. Where was the 2nd Corps and Richardson's division in the line of march during
the pursuit of Longstreet and Hill following the CS withdrawal from Turner's and
Fox's Gaps on the morning of September 15th?

5. Where did the 2nd Corps generally bivouac in the hours leading up to the
battle on September 17th?

I already know that Mac held Richardson's division back as a sort of general
reserve pending the arrival of Morrell (IIRC) with his division; this was the
primary reason why (again IIRC) it did not support Sedgwick's advance into the
West Woods sector of the fighting.

Does Vince Armstrong's book "Advance the Colors" answer these questions?

Thanks for your help!

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers
https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers
http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/

"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at one
period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which impels them--the
desire to do right--is precisely the same. The circumstances which govern their
actions change; and their conduct must conform to the new order of things." --
Robert E. Lee

Hi Gerry:

In answer to your #1 question, the 2nd Corps was the last to reach the
Washington area, arriving in Arlington on August 28th. (From the  Peninsula
campaign)  They were designated by Mac to guard the  approaches to the city,
and on the 30th they began the move to Centerville,  arriving there on the
31st. They then participated in the retreat back to  Washington.

That was pretty much the extent of their involvement in the 2nd Bull Run
campaign.

Hope everyone had a wonderful and safe Christmas.
Mike Lavis


In a message dated 12/29/2012 3:00:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
gerry1952@... writes:

Gang,

After the New Year I plan to start a companion novel  to my first novel
None But Heroes. This second novel will examine the same  Maryland Campaign but
through the eyes of a veteran of the Irish Brigade, part  of Richardson's
division of the 2nd Corps, Army of the Potomac.

I have  some questions I need some assistance with answering:

1. Did the 2nd  Corps under Sumner take any active part at all in the 2nd
Bull Run campaign?  If it did, what role did it play and to what extent?

2. IIRC the 2nd  Corps helped anchor the left flank of the advance of the
AoP from Washington  City, thereby securing the Potomac River part of
Maryland from any feared  Confederate invasion of Washington City. (This was a
big
bugbear for General  in Chief Halleck as well as Secretary of War Stanton.)

3. When did the  2nd Corps concentrate near Frederick and what was sits
order of march when the  9th Corps made its advance towards Turner's and Fox's
Gaps on South Mountain  and the subsequent fighting there?

4. Where was the 2nd Corps and  Richardson's division in the line of march
during the pursuit of Longstreet  and Hill following the CS withdrawal from
Turner's and Fox's Gaps on the  morning of September 15th?

5. Where did the 2nd Corps generally bivouac  in the hours leading up to
the battle on September 17th?

I already know  that Mac held Richardson's division back as a sort of
general reserve pending  the arrival of Morrell (IIRC) with his division; this
was the primary reason  why (again IIRC) it did not support Sedgwick's advance
into the West Woods  sector of the fighting.

Does Vince Armstrong's book "Advance the  Colors" answer these questions?

Thanks for your help!

Yr. Obt.  Svt.
G E "Gerry"  Mayers
https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers
http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/

"True  patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at one
period,  to that which it does at another, and the motive which impels
them--the desire  to do right--is precisely the same. The circumstances which
govern their  actions change; and their conduct must conform to the new order
of things." --  Robert E.  Lee



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Mike;

Thanks for that answer! How about the other questions?

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers

http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/



"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at
one period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which
impels them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same. The
circumstances which govern their actions change; and their conduct
must conform to the new order of things." -- Robert E. Lee



   -----Original Message-----
   From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of MikeL49NYVI@...
   Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 3:22 PM
   To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and Irish
Brigade



   Hi Gerry:

   In answer to your #1 question, the 2nd Corps was the last to reach
the
   Washington area, arriving in Arlington on August 28th. (From the
Peninsula
   campaign) They were designated by Mac to guard the approaches to the
city,
   and on the 30th they began the move to Centerville, arriving there
on the
   31st. They then participated in the retreat back to Washington.

   That was pretty much the extent of their involvement in the 2nd Bull
Run
   campaign.

   Hope everyone had a wonderful and safe Christmas.
   Mike Lavis


   In a message dated 12/29/2012 3:00:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
   gerry1952@... writes:

   Gang,

   After the New Year I plan to start a companion novel to my first
novel
   None But Heroes. This second novel will examine the same Maryland
Campaign but
   through the eyes of a veteran of the Irish Brigade, part of
Richardson's
   division of the 2nd Corps, Army of the Potomac.

   I have some questions I need some assistance with answering:

   1. Did the 2nd Corps under Sumner take any active part at all in the
2nd
   Bull Run campaign? If it did, what role did it play and to what
extent?

   2. IIRC the 2nd Corps helped anchor the left flank of the advance of
the
   AoP from Washington City, thereby securing the Potomac River part of
   Maryland from any feared Confederate invasion of Washington City.
(This was a big
   bugbear for General in Chief Halleck as well as Secretary of War
Stanton.)

   3. When did the 2nd Corps concentrate near Frederick and what was
sits
   order of march when the 9th Corps made its advance towards Turner's
and Fox's
   Gaps on South Mountain and the subsequent fighting there?

   4. Where was the 2nd Corps and Richardson's division in the line of
march
   during the pursuit of Longstreet and Hill following the CS
withdrawal from
   Turner's and Fox's Gaps on the morning of September 15th?

   5. Where did the 2nd Corps generally bivouac in the hours leading up
to
   the battle on September 17th?

   I already know that Mac held Richardson's division back as a sort of
   general reserve pending the arrival of Morrell (IIRC) with his
division; this
   was the primary reason why (again IIRC) it did not support
Sedgwick's advance
   into the West Woods sector of the fighting.

   Does Vince Armstrong's book "Advance the Colors" answer these
questions?

   Thanks for your help!

   Yr. Obt. Svt.
   G E "Gerry" Mayers
   https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers
   http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/

   "True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary,
at one
   period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which
impels
   them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same. The
circumstances which
   govern their actions change; and their conduct must conform to the
new order
   of things." -- Robert E. Lee

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Hi Gerry, glad to be of some help.

I had done quite a bit of research for the Return To Manassas event a
couple years ago, and had that info right at hand.

As for the other questions, there are several on this forum whose knowledge
  is greater than my own, and I thought they might be able to give better
answers  than I could. So I defer to them.

as always
Mike Lavis


In a message dated 12/29/2012 3:52:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
gerry1952@... writes:




Mike;

Thanks for that answer! How about the other  questions?

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

_https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers_
(https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers)

_http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/_ (http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/)

"True  patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at
one  period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which
impels  them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same. The
circumstances  which govern their actions change; and their conduct
must conform to the  new order of things." -- Robert E. Lee

-----Original  Message-----
From: _TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com)
[mailto:_TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com) ]On  Behalf Of _MikeL49NYVI@..._
(mailto:MikeL49NYVI@...)
Sent: Saturday,  December 29, 2012 3:22 PM
To: _TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com)
Subject:  Re: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and  Irish
Brigade

Hi Gerry:

In answer to your #1 question, the  2nd Corps was the last to reach
the
Washington area, arriving in  Arlington on August 28th. (From the
Peninsula
campaign) They were  designated by Mac to guard the approaches to the
city,
and on the 30th  they began the move to Centerville, arriving there
on the
31st. They  then participated in the retreat back to Washington.

That was pretty  much the extent of their involvement in the 2nd  Bull
Run
campaign.

Hope everyone had a wonderful and safe  Christmas.
Mike Lavis

In a message dated 12/29/2012 3:00:08 P.M.  Eastern Standard Time,
_gerry1952@..._ (mailto:gerry1952@...)   writes:

Gang,

After the New Year I plan to start a companion  novel to my first
novel
None But Heroes. This second novel will examine  the same Maryland
Campaign but
through the eyes of a veteran of the  Irish Brigade, part of
Richardson's
division of the 2nd Corps, Army of  the Potomac.

I have some questions I need some assistance with  answering:

1. Did the 2nd Corps under Sumner take any active part at  all in the
2nd
Bull Run campaign? If it did, what role did it play and  to what
extent?

2. IIRC the 2nd Corps helped anchor the left flank  of the advance of
the
AoP from Washington City, thereby securing the  Potomac River part of
Maryland from any feared Confederate invasion of  Washington City.
(This was a big
bugbear for General in Chief Halleck as  well as Secretary of War
Stanton.)

3. When did the 2nd Corps  concentrate near Frederick and what was
sits
order of march when the 9th  Corps made its advance towards Turner's
and Fox's
Gaps on South Mountain  and the subsequent fighting there?

4. Where was the 2nd Corps and  Richardson's division in the line of
march
during the pursuit of  Longstreet and Hill following the CS
withdrawal from
Turner's and Fox's  Gaps on the morning of September 15th?

5. Where did the 2nd Corps  generally bivouac in the hours leading up
to
the battle on September  17th?

I already know that Mac held Richardson's division back as a sort  of
general reserve pending the arrival of Morrell (IIRC) with  his
division; this
was the primary reason why (again IIRC) it did not  support
Sedgwick's advance
into the West Woods sector of the  fighting.

Does Vince Armstrong's book "Advance the Colors" answer  these
questions?

Thanks for your help!

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E  "Gerry" Mayers
_https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers_ (
https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers)
_http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/_ (http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/)

"True  patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary,
at  one
period, to that which it does at another, and the motive  which
impels
them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same.  The
circumstances which
govern their actions change; and their conduct  must conform to the
new order
of things." -- Robert E.  Lee

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Mike;

As always thanks much for the information you did provide! At least
that is a start point!

My  novel None But Heroes is selling decently and I have set up a blog
about the novel as well. Info is below.

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers

http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/



"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at
one period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which
impels them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same. The
circumstances which govern their actions change; and their conduct
must conform to the new order of things." -- Robert E. Lee




   -----Original Message-----
   From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of MikeL49NYVI@...
   Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 11:37 PM
   To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and Irish
Brigade



   Hi Gerry, glad to be of some help.

   I had done quite a bit of research for the Return To Manassas event
a
   couple years ago, and had that info right at hand.

   As for the other questions, there are several on this forum whose
knowledge
   is greater than my own, and I thought they might be able to give
better
   answers than I could. So I defer to them.

   as always
   Mike Lavis


   In a message dated 12/29/2012 3:52:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
   gerry1952@... writes:

   Mike;

   Thanks for that answer! How about the other questions?

   Yr. Obt. Svt.
   G E "Gerry" Mayers

   _https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers_
   (https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers)

   _http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/_
(http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/)

   "True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary,
at
   one period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which
   impels them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same. The
   circumstances which govern their actions change; and their conduct
   must conform to the new order of things." -- Robert E. Lee

   -----Original Message-----
   From: _TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com)
   [mailto:_TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com_
   (mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com) ]On Behalf Of
_MikeL49NYVI@..._ (mailto:MikeL49NYVI@...)
   Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 3:22 PM
   To: _TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com)
   Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and Irish
   Brigade

   Hi Gerry:

   In answer to your #1 question, the 2nd Corps was the last to reach
   the
   Washington area, arriving in Arlington on August 28th. (From the
   Peninsula
   campaign) They were designated by Mac to guard the approaches to the
   city,
   and on the 30th they began the move to Centerville, arriving there
   on the
   31st. They then participated in the retreat back to Washington.

   That was pretty much the extent of their involvement in the 2nd Bull
   Run
   campaign.

   Hope everyone had a wonderful and safe Christmas.
   Mike Lavis

   In a message dated 12/29/2012 3:00:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
   _gerry1952@..._ (mailto:gerry1952@...) writes:

   Gang,

   After the New Year I plan to start a companion novel to my first
   novel
   None But Heroes. This second novel will examine the same Maryland
   Campaign but
   through the eyes of a veteran of the Irish Brigade, part of
   Richardson's
   division of the 2nd Corps, Army of the Potomac.

   I have some questions I need some assistance with answering:

   1. Did the 2nd Corps under Sumner take any active part at all in the
   2nd
   Bull Run campaign? If it did, what role did it play and to what
   extent?

   2. IIRC the 2nd Corps helped anchor the left flank of the advance of
   the
   AoP from Washington City, thereby securing the Potomac River part of
   Maryland from any feared Confederate invasion of Washington City.
   (This was a big
   bugbear for General in Chief Halleck as well as Secretary of War
   Stanton.)

   3. When did the 2nd Corps concentrate near Frederick and what was
   sits
   order of march when the 9th Corps made its advance towards Turner's
   and Fox's
   Gaps on South Mountain and the subsequent fighting there?

   4. Where was the 2nd Corps and Richardson's division in the line of
   march
   during the pursuit of Longstreet and Hill following the CS
   withdrawal from
   Turner's and Fox's Gaps on the morning of September 15th?

   5. Where did the 2nd Corps generally bivouac in the hours leading up
   to
   the battle on September 17th?

   I already know that Mac held Richardson's division back as a sort of
   general reserve pending the arrival of Morrell (IIRC) with his
   division; this
   was the primary reason why (again IIRC) it did not support
   Sedgwick's advance
   into the West Woods sector of the fighting.

   Does Vince Armstrong's book "Advance the Colors" answer these
   questions?

   Thanks for your help!

   Yr. Obt. Svt.
   G E "Gerry" Mayers
   _https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers_ (
   https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers)
   _http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/_
(http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/)

   "True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary,
   at one
   period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which
   impels
   them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same. The
   circumstances which
   govern their actions change; and their conduct must conform to the
   new order
   of things." -- Robert E. Lee

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You could check Kreiser's "Defeating Lee: A History of the Second Corps, Army of
the Potomac," published last year by Indiana University Press.�Amazon has Look
Inside for it--maybe that will help. It is about $6 plus shipping. Maryland
Campaign questions likely answered by Hartwig's new book or by Clemens's
Carman.��
�
Here is the cite for Mr. Armstrong's book which could help you if you wish to
buy it:
"Unfurl Those Colors: McClellan,
Sumner, and the Second Army Corps in the Antietam Campaign" by�Marion
V. Armstrong Jr.�Amazon does not have Look Inside for this one. Cheapest on
Amazon c. $40.
�
Good luck with your research.
�
Larry


________________________________
  From: G E Mayers <gerry1952@...>
To: TalkAntietam Group <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:59 PM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and Irish Brigade

Gang,

After the New Year I plan to start a companion novel to my first novel None But
Heroes. This second novel will examine the same Maryland Campaign but through
the eyes of a veteran of the Irish Brigade, part of Richardson's division of the
2nd Corps, Army of the Potomac.

I have some questions I need some assistance with answering:

1. Did the 2nd Corps under Sumner take any active part at all in the 2nd Bull
Run campaign? If it did, what role did it play and to what extent?

2. IIRC the 2nd Corps helped anchor the left flank of the advance of the AoP
from Washington City, thereby securing the Potomac River part of Maryland from
any feared Confederate invasion of Washington City. (This was a big bugbear for
General in Chief Halleck as well as Secretary of War Stanton.)

3. When did the 2nd Corps concentrate near Frederick and what was sits order of
march when the 9th Corps made its advance towards Turner's and Fox's Gaps on
South Mountain and the subsequent fighting there?

4. Where was the 2nd Corps and Richardson's division in the line of march during
the pursuit of Longstreet and Hill following the CS withdrawal from Turner's and
Fox's Gaps on the morning of September 15th?

5. Where did the 2nd Corps generally bivouac in the hours leading up to the
battle on September 17th?

I already know that Mac held Richardson's division back as a sort of general
reserve pending the arrival of Morrell (IIRC) with his division; this was the
primary reason why (again IIRC) it did not support Sedgwick's advance into the
West Woods sector of the fighting.

Does Vince Armstrong's book "Advance the Colors" answer these questions?

Thanks for your help!

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers
https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers
http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/

"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at one
period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which impels them--the
desire to do right--is precisely the same. The circumstances which govern their
actions change; and their conduct must conform to the new order of things." --
Robert E. Lee



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As I recall, 2nd Corps marched to Centerville on Aug 31, without their
artillery.

Dave Powell


In a message dated 12/31/2012 9:31:40 A.M. Central Standard Time,
eighth_conn_inf@... writes:

You  could check Kreiser's "Defeating Lee: A History of the Second Corps,
Army of  the Potomac," published last year by Indiana University Press.
Amazon has  Look Inside for it--maybe that will help. It is about $6 plus
shipping.  Maryland Campaign questions likely answered by Hartwig's new book or
by
Clemens's Carman.

Here is the cite for Mr.  Armstrong's book which could help you if you wish
to buy it:
"Unfurl Those  Colors: McClellan,
Sumner, and the Second Army Corps in the Antietam  Campaign" by Marion
V. Armstrong Jr. Amazon does not have Look  Inside for this one. Cheapest
on Amazon c. $40.

Good luck with  your  research.

Larry


________________________________
From:  G E Mayers <gerry1952@...>
To: TalkAntietam Group  <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012  2:59 PM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and Irish  Brigade

Gang,

After the New Year I plan to start a  companion novel to my first novel
None But Heroes. This second novel will  examine the same Maryland Campaign but
through the eyes of a veteran of the  Irish Brigade, part of Richardson's
division of the 2nd Corps, Army of the  Potomac.

I have some questions I need some assistance with  answering:

1. Did the 2nd Corps under Sumner take any active part at  all in the 2nd
Bull Run campaign? If it did, what role did it play and to what  extent?

2. IIRC the 2nd Corps helped anchor the left flank of the  advance of the
AoP from Washington City, thereby securing the Potomac River  part of
Maryland from any feared Confederate invasion of Washington City.  (This was a
big
bugbear for General in Chief Halleck as well as Secretary of  War Stanton.)

3. When did the 2nd Corps concentrate near Frederick and  what was sits
order of march when the 9th Corps made its advance towards  Turner's and Fox's
Gaps on South Mountain and the subsequent fighting  there?

4. Where was the 2nd Corps and Richardson's division in the line  of march
during the pursuit of Longstreet and Hill following the CS withdrawal  from
Turner's and Fox's Gaps on the morning of September 15th?

5. Where  did the 2nd Corps generally bivouac in the hours leading up to
the battle on  September 17th?

I already know that Mac held Richardson's division back  as a sort of
general reserve pending the arrival of Morrell (IIRC) with his  division; this
was the primary reason why (again IIRC) it did not support  Sedgwick's advance
into the West Woods sector of the fighting.

Does  Vince Armstrong's book "Advance the Colors" answer these questions?

Thanks for your help!

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry"  Mayers
https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers
http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/

"True  patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at one
period,  to that which it does at another, and the motive which impels
them--the desire  to do right--is precisely the same. The circumstances which
govern their  actions change; and their conduct must conform to the new order
of things." --  Robert E.  Lee



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Larry;

Thanks. Dave McGowan offered to send me his copy of Armstrong's book
and I think I shall take him up on hit. BTW I ordered the history of
the 2nd Corps via Kindle so I should have it soon!

Thanks for the tips!

PS: I hope you have bought the None But Heroes novel to read!

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers

http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/



"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at
one period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which
impels them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same. The
circumstances which govern their actions change; and their conduct
must conform to the new order of things." -- Robert E. Lee



   -----Original Message-----
   From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Larry Freiheit
   Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:28 AM
   To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and Irish
Brigade



   You could check Kreiser's "Defeating Lee: A History of the Second
Corps, Army of the Potomac," published last year by Indiana University
Press. Amazon has Look Inside for it--maybe that will help. It is
about $6 plus shipping. Maryland Campaign questions likely answered by
Hartwig's new book or by Clemens's Carman.

   Here is the cite for Mr. Armstrong's book which could help you if
you wish to buy it:
   "Unfurl Those Colors: McClellan,
   Sumner, and the Second Army Corps in the Antietam Campaign" by
Marion
   V. Armstrong Jr. Amazon does not have Look Inside for this one.
Cheapest on Amazon c. $40.

   Good luck with your research.

   Larry


   ________________________________
   From: G E Mayers <gerry1952@...>
   To: TalkAntietam Group <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:59 PM
   Subject: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and Irish
Brigade

   Gang,

   After the New Year I plan to start a companion novel to my first
novel None But Heroes. This second novel will examine the same
Maryland Campaign but through the eyes of a veteran of the Irish
Brigade, part of Richardson's division of the 2nd Corps, Army of the
Potomac.

   I have some questions I need some assistance with answering:

   1. Did the 2nd Corps under Sumner take any active part at all in the
2nd Bull Run campaign? If it did, what role did it play and to what
extent?

   2. IIRC the 2nd Corps helped anchor the left flank of the advance of
the AoP from Washington City, thereby securing the Potomac River part
of Maryland from any feared Confederate invasion of Washington City.
(This was a big bugbear for General in Chief Halleck as well as
Secretary of War Stanton.)

   3. When did the 2nd Corps concentrate near Frederick and what was
sits order of march when the 9th Corps made its advance towards
Turner's and Fox's Gaps on South Mountain and the subsequent fighting
there?

   4. Where was the 2nd Corps and Richardson's division in the line of
march during the pursuit of Longstreet and Hill following the CS
withdrawal from Turner's and Fox's Gaps on the morning of September
15th?

   5. Where did the 2nd Corps generally bivouac in the hours leading up
to the battle on September 17th?

   I already know that Mac held Richardson's division back as a sort of
general reserve pending the arrival of Morrell (IIRC) with his
division; this was the primary reason why (again IIRC) it did not
support Sedgwick's advance into the West Woods sector of the fighting.

   Does Vince Armstrong's book "Advance the Colors" answer these
questions?

   Thanks for your help!

   Yr. Obt. Svt.
   G E "Gerry" Mayers
   https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers
   http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/

   "True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary,
at one period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which
impels them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same. The
circumstances which govern their actions change; and their conduct
must conform to the new order of things." -- Robert E. Lee

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No--unfortunately I don't have Kindle. My book is only available hard copy but I
would be happy to sign one and send it to you at a good price.



________________________________
  From: G E Mayers <gerry1952@...>
To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 6:31 PM
Subject: RE: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and Irish Brigade


 

Larry;

Thanks. Dave McGowan offered to send me his copy of Armstrong's book
and I think I shall take him up on hit. BTW I ordered the history of
the 2nd Corps via Kindle so I should have it soon!

Thanks for the tips!

PS: I hope you have bought the None But Heroes novel to read!

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers

http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/

"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at
one period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which
impels them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same. The
circumstances which govern their actions change; and their conduct
must conform to the new order of things." -- Robert E. Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Larry Freiheit
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:28 AM
To: mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and Irish
Brigade

You could check Kreiser's "Defeating Lee: A History of the Second
Corps, Army of the Potomac," published last year by Indiana University
Press. Amazon has Look Inside for it--maybe that will help. It is
about $6 plus shipping. Maryland Campaign questions likely answered by
Hartwig's new book or by Clemens's Carman.

Here is the cite for Mr. Armstrong's book which could help you if
you wish to buy it:
"Unfurl Those Colors: McClellan,
Sumner, and the Second Army Corps in the Antietam Campaign" by
Marion
V. Armstrong Jr. Amazon does not have Look Inside for this one.
Cheapest on Amazon c. $40.

Good luck with your research.

Larry

________________________________
From: G E Mayers <mailto:gerry1952%40verizon.net>
To: TalkAntietam Group <mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:59 PM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and Irish
Brigade

Gang,

After the New Year I plan to start a companion novel to my first
novel None But Heroes. This second novel will examine the same
Maryland Campaign but through the eyes of a veteran of the Irish
Brigade, part of Richardson's division of the 2nd Corps, Army of the
Potomac.

I have some questions I need some assistance with answering:

1. Did the 2nd Corps under Sumner take any active part at all in the
2nd Bull Run campaign? If it did, what role did it play and to what
extent?

2. IIRC the 2nd Corps helped anchor the left flank of the advance of
the AoP from Washington City, thereby securing the Potomac River part
of Maryland from any feared Confederate invasion of Washington City.
(This was a big bugbear for General in Chief Halleck as well as
Secretary of War Stanton.)

3. When did the 2nd Corps concentrate near Frederick and what was
sits order of march when the 9th Corps made its advance towards
Turner's and Fox's Gaps on South Mountain and the subsequent fighting
there?

4. Where was the 2nd Corps and Richardson's division in the line of
march during the pursuit of Longstreet and Hill following the CS
withdrawal from Turner's and Fox's Gaps on the morning of September
15th?

5. Where did the 2nd Corps generally bivouac in the hours leading up
to the battle on September 17th?

I already know that Mac held Richardson's division back as a sort of
general reserve pending the arrival of Morrell (IIRC) with his
division; this was the primary reason why (again IIRC) it did not
support Sedgwick's advance into the West Woods sector of the fighting.

Does Vince Armstrong's book "Advance the Colors" answer these
questions?

Thanks for your help!

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers
https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers
http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/

"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary,
at one period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which
impels them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same. The
circumstances which govern their actions change; and their conduct
must conform to the new order of things." -- Robert E. Lee

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Larry;

I was talking about MY novel not your book. LOL!

BTW you can download a free reader app from Amazon Kindle and then purchase the
novel. The app will allow you to read the novel on your computer or laptop or
smartphone or tablet.

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers

http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/



"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at one
period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which impels them--the
desire to do right--is precisely the same. The circumstances which govern their
actions change; and their conduct must conform to the new order of things." --
Robert E. Lee



   -----Original Message-----
   From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Larry Freiheit
   Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 12:07 PM
   To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and Irish Brigade



   No--unfortunately I don't have Kindle. My book is only available hard copy but
I would be happy to sign one and send it to you at a good price.

   ________________________________
   From: G E Mayers gerry1952@...>
   To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 6:31 PM
   Subject: RE: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and Irish Brigade




   Larry;

   Thanks. Dave McGowan offered to send me his copy of Armstrong's book
   and I think I shall take him up on hit. BTW I ordered the history of
   the 2nd Corps via Kindle so I should have it soon!

   Thanks for the tips!

   PS: I hope you have bought the None But Heroes novel to read!

   Yr. Obt. Svt.
   G E "Gerry" Mayers

   https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers

   http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/

   "True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at
   one period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which
   impels them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same. The
   circumstances which govern their actions change; and their conduct
   must conform to the new order of things." -- Robert E. Lee

   -----Original Message-----
   From: mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com
   [mailto:mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Larry Freiheit
   Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:28 AM
   To: mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and Irish
   Brigade

   You could check Kreiser's "Defeating Lee: A History of the Second
   Corps, Army of the Potomac," published last year by Indiana University
   Press. Amazon has Look Inside for it--maybe that will help. It is
   about $6 plus shipping. Maryland Campaign questions likely answered by
   Hartwig's new book or by Clemens's Carman.

   Here is the cite for Mr. Armstrong's book which could help you if
   you wish to buy it:
   "Unfurl Those Colors: McClellan,
   Sumner, and the Second Army Corps in the Antietam Campaign" by
   Marion
   V. Armstrong Jr. Amazon does not have Look Inside for this one.
   Cheapest on Amazon c. $40.

   Good luck with your research.

   Larry

   ________________________________
   From: G E Mayers
   To: TalkAntietam Group
   Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:59 PM
   Subject: [TalkAntietam] Questions re Second Corps AoP and Irish
   Brigade

   Gang,

   After the New Year I plan to start a companion novel to my first
   novel None But Heroes. This second novel will examine the same
   Maryland Campaign but through the eyes of a veteran of the Irish
   Brigade, part of Richardson's division of the 2nd Corps, Army of the
   Potomac.

   I have some questions I need some assistance with answering:

   1. Did the 2nd Corps under Sumner take any active part at all in the
   2nd Bull Run campaign? If it did, what role did it play and to what
   extent?

   2. IIRC the 2nd Corps helped anchor the left flank of the advance of
   the AoP from Washington City, thereby securing the Potomac River part
   of Maryland from any feared Confederate invasion of Washington City.
   (This was a big bugbear for General in Chief Halleck as well as
   Secretary of War Stanton.)

   3. When did the 2nd Corps concentrate near Frederick and what was
   sits order of march when the 9th Corps made its advance towards
   Turner's and Fox's Gaps on South Mountain and the subsequent fighting
   there?

   4. Where was the 2nd Corps and Richardson's division in the line of
   march during the pursuit of Longstreet and Hill following the CS
   withdrawal from Turner's and Fox's Gaps on the morning of September
   15th?

   5. Where did the 2nd Corps generally bivouac in the hours leading up
   to the battle on September 17th?

   I already know that Mac held Richardson's division back as a sort of
   general reserve pending the arrival of Morrell (IIRC) with his
   division; this was the primary reason why (again IIRC) it did not
   support Sedgwick's advance into the West Woods sector of the fighting.

   Does Vince Armstrong's book "Advance the Colors" answer these
   questions?

   Thanks for your help!

   Yr. Obt. Svt.
   G E "Gerry" Mayers
   https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers
   http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/

   "True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary,
   at one period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which
   impels them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same. The
   circumstances which govern their actions change; and their conduct
   must conform to the new order of things." -- Robert E. Lee

   ------------------------------------

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My deepest sympathy to fellow member Tom Clemens on the loss of Bo mber, his
beloved dog.  Undoubtedly t hat dog spent more time on the hallowed fiel ds of
Antietam than most of us!



Tom Shay - Cressona, PA

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I agree with that statement. I think the first time I met him was on the
battlefield.


I have already sent sympathies to Tom, but it bears saying again. I have had
quite a few dogs over my lifetime and they still provide me with happy memories.


Paula

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My deepest sympathy to fellow member Tom Clemens on the loss of Bo mber, his
beloved dog. Undoubtedly t hat dog spent more time on the hallowed fiel ds of
Antietam than most of us!



Tom Shay - Cressona, PA

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Herald-Mail article features musician-turned writer's book based Civil War-era
photos....

http://www.herald-mail.com/lifestyle/hm-musicianturned-writers-book-based-civil-\
warera-photos-20130111,0,3516502.story


Tom Shay



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Would anyone have a photo of Mansfield's aide, Capt. Clarence Hopkins Dyer? None
found in the usual places but I will check at the WP Library and Middlesex CHS.
How about the name of his body servant or more info on the chief Twelfth Corps
surgeon who attended him, Dr. Anselum (sp.?)?

Does John Schildt's book, "Antietam Hospitals", have info on the Twelfth Corp
medical staff esp. the Martin Line Farm where Mansfield died? I have most of
John's books but unfortunately not this one. Did he also write a book about the
Twelfth Corps at Antietam?

From Dyer's letter: "Doct. (Anselum) Surgeon of the [Twelfth} Corps, and Docts
Porter and Weeks (the latter of the Navy) were all very attentive to him." Any
info about the other two?

Thank you.

Larry

Larry;

According to the new "So You Think You Know Antietam," the Line farm
is known as the George Line farm and the house is where Mansfield
died.

Gerry

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   Would anyone have a photo of Mansfield's aide, Capt. Clarence
Hopkins Dyer? None found in the usual places but I will check at the
WP Library and Middlesex CHS. How about the name of his body servant
or more info on the chief Twelfth Corps surgeon who attended him, Dr.
Anselum (sp.?)?

   Does John Schildt's book, "Antietam Hospitals", have info on the
Twelfth Corp medical staff esp. the Martin Line Farm where Mansfield
died? I have most of John's books but unfortunately not this one. Did
he also write a book about the Twelfth Corps at Antietam?

   From Dyer's letter: "Doct. (Anselum) Surgeon of the [Twelfth} Corps,
and Docts Porter and Weeks (the latter of the Navy) were all very
attentive to him." Any info about the other two?

   Thank you.

   Larry






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Harsh Scholar Award notice
Save Historic Antietam Foundation Inc. (SHAF) is proud to announce the opening
of applications for the Dr. Joseph L. Harsh Memorial Scholarship. This award was
created in 2012 to honor of Dr. Harsh, a professor at George Mason University,
an award-winning author who wrote a trilogy of books on Confederate strategy in
the Maryland Campaign. Dr. Harsh was generous contributor to, and member of
SHAF. The purpose of the Scholarship is to advance the knowledge and
understanding of the battle of Antietam and Maryland Campaign, and is open to
all applicants. The first award recipient was Daniel Joseph Vermilya of
Kirtland, Ohio who titled his presentation “The Strength, Composition, and
Experience of the Army of the Potomac at the battle of Antietam.”
The Guidelines for our second annual award are listed below.
Harsh Scholarship Guidelines
Save Historic Antietam Foundation, Inc. (SHAF) offers an annual scholarship
award in memory of Civil War scholar, Dr. Joseph L. Harsh. The award is
presented to successful applicants who produce a scholarly paper on some aspect
of the Maryland Campaign of 1862, based on solid original research with proper
citations using the Chicago Manual of Style. The final paper should be
approximately 10,000 words in double spaced format. Photographic illustrations,
maps and charts are encouraged. Those wishing to apply for the award must send
to SHAF a 200 word abstract stating the thesis for the research project and the
anticipated goal and outcome. The successful applicant shall make a public
presentation of his or her findings at the annual battle anniversary
commemoration. The deadline for applications is March 15. Monthly progress
reports shall be sent to SHAF from the time of selection until the final paper
is submitted.
A committee of professional and/or academic historians will assess the merits of
the finished research paper.
1. The award shall be $2,500 and provided by SHAF, Inc. An advance of $1,000
will be paid when the project is approved, and the balance will be paid upon
successful completion as determined by the committee of historians.
2. A public presentation by the recipient will be made during the anniversary
commemoration weekend at the Antietam National Battlefield (ANB). The full
research paper, with the presentation and notes, will be submitted to SHAF by
December 15, and will be included in SHAF Annual Report. The final paper, and
any works derived from it, will be the property of Save Historic Antietam
Foundation, Inc. and may be used by the author with SHAF’s permission.
3. The recipients’ names shall be engraved on a plaque in the Visitor’s
Center at ANB.
4. A copy of all material produced by the recipient shall also be deposited with
the ANB Library.
5. Eligibility for the award is open to all persons.

Those wishing to apply for the Harsh Scholarship award should sent their 200
word abstract to contact@....
Further information can be obtained from Tom Clemens, President of SHAF,
301-432-2522 or at Antietam@....


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