Subscribers to Civil War History may be interested in this interview with the
new editor of the journal.

http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/interview-dr-lesley-gordon-civil-wa\
r-history/

Harry

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From Hagerstown Herald-Mail:

When Lindsay Miles and Corey Wolfensberger told their pastor they wanted to get
married at Antietam National Battlefield, he took pause. Corey works as a budget
analyst at the battlefield, and battlefield Superintendent John Howard offered
that the couple could be married there.

Read more...
http://www.herald-mail.com/?cmd=displaystory&story_id=248867&format=html

Tom Shay


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Gettysburg College has announced the topics for the 2011 Civil War Institute
Conference.



http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2010/07/11/gettysburg-college-civil-war-in
tstitute-2011-conference-to-feature-first-bull-run/



Harry



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Has anyone ever identified which Confederate battery lost the limber in the
foreground of the famous Alexander Gardner photo taken on September 19, 1862
with Dunker Church in the background?

Lieutenant-Colonel P. T. Manning, Chief of Ordinance, Right Wing, reported the
following losses at Sharpsburg in his report of October 14, 1862:

"Lee's Battalion Artillery.-Captain. T. C. Jordan's battery, one 12-pounder
howitzer caisson. Captain A. B. Rhett's battery, one 12-pounder howitzer limber.
Captain W. W. Parker's battery, rear chests 12-pounder howitzer caisson. Captain
G. V. Moody's battery, one forge in Potomac. Captain Pichegru Wooldfolk's Jr.'s
battery, one 12-pounder howitzer and limber. Captain Morman's [M. N. Moorman -
see his reply] battery, two 10-pounder Parrott guns and rear carriage of
caisson. Captain Maurin's [see his reply] battery (Pryor's brigade), one
10-pounder rifle (Parrott) and caisson. One caisson was destroyed by the enemy's
shell during the fight."

Dear Scott,

To the best of my knowledge, that destroyed limber was in the area where Stephen
Dill Lee had posted his artillery battalion, that later became Alexander's, on
the morning of September 17th.

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "ScottH" <sdhann@...>
To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:56 AM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Abandoned artillery limber near Dunker Church in
Gardner's photo.


> Has anyone ever identified which Confederate battery lost the limber in the
foreground of the famous Alexander Gardner photo taken on September 19, 1862
with Dunker Church in the background?
>
> Lieutenant-Colonel P. T. Manning, Chief of Ordinance, Right Wing, reported the
following losses at Sharpsburg in his report of October 14, 1862:
>
> "Lee's Battalion Artillery.-Captain. T. C. Jordan's battery, one 12-pounder
howitzer caisson. Captain A. B. Rhett's battery, one 12-pounder howitzer limber.
Captain W. W. Parker's battery, rear chests 12-pounder howitzer caisson. Captain
G. V. Moody's battery, one forge in Potomac. Captain Pichegru Wooldfolk's Jr.'s
battery, one 12-pounder howitzer and limber. Captain Morman's [M. N. Moorman -
see his reply] battery, two 10-pounder Parrott guns and rear carriage of
caisson. Captain Maurin's [see his reply] battery (Pryor's brigade), one
10-pounder rifle (Parrott) and caisson. One caisson was destroyed by the enemy's
shell during the fight."
>
>

Thanks "Gerry."  The limber most definitely belonged to one of Stephen D. Lee's
batteries, but which one?  There's a few possibilities.  I've seen recent maps
that show how Lee's battalion was arrayed, but I'm not 100% convinced of their
accuracy.  It's wishful thinking that the limber in question belonged to Rhett's
Battery (my ancestor's unit).





--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Scott,
>
> To the best of my knowledge, that destroyed limber was in the area where
Stephen Dill Lee had posted his artillery battalion, that later became
Alexander's, on the morning of September 17th.
>
> Yr. Obt. Svt.
> G E "Gerry" Mayers
>
> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ScottH" <sdhann@...>
> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:56 AM
> Subject: [TalkAntietam] Abandoned artillery limber near Dunker Church in
Gardner's photo.
>
>
> > Has anyone ever identified which Confederate battery lost the limber in the
foreground of the famous Alexander Gardner photo taken on September 19, 1862
with Dunker Church in the background?
> >
> > Lieutenant-Colonel P. T. Manning, Chief of Ordinance, Right Wing, reported
the following losses at Sharpsburg in his report of October 14, 1862:
> >
> > "Lee's Battalion Artillery.-Captain. T. C. Jordan's battery, one 12-pounder
howitzer caisson. Captain A. B. Rhett's battery, one 12-pounder howitzer limber.
Captain W. W. Parker's battery, rear chests 12-pounder howitzer caisson. Captain
G. V. Moody's battery, one forge in Potomac. Captain Pichegru Wooldfolk's Jr.'s
battery, one 12-pounder howitzer and limber. Captain Morman's [M. N. Moorman -
see his reply] battery, two 10-pounder Parrott guns and rear carriage of
caisson. Captain Maurin's [see his reply] battery (Pryor's brigade), one
10-pounder rifle (Parrott) and caisson. One caisson was destroyed by the enemy's
shell during the fight."
> >
> >
>

Scott, I don't remember reading anything about which battery might have lost it
in the BB letters, but will let you know if I find anything.


Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
Professor of History
Hagerstown Community College


>>> "ScottH" <sdhann@...> 07/15/10 11:01 AM >>>
Thanks "Gerry."  The limber most definitely belonged to one of Stephen D. Lee's
batteries, but which one?  There's a few possibilities.  I've seen recent maps
that show how Lee's battalion was arrayed, but I'm not 100% convinced of their
accuracy.  It's wishful thinking that the limber in question belonged to Rhett's
Battery (my ancestor's unit).





--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Scott,
>
> To the best of my knowledge, that destroyed limber was in the area where
Stephen Dill Lee had posted his artillery battalion, that later became
Alexander's, on the morning of September 17th.
>
> Yr. Obt. Svt.
> G E "Gerry" Mayers
>
> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ScottH" <sdhann@...>
> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:56 AM
> Subject: [TalkAntietam] Abandoned artillery limber near Dunker Church in
Gardner's photo.
>
>
> > Has anyone ever identified which Confederate battery lost the limber in the
foreground of the famous Alexander Gardner photo taken on September 19, 1862
with Dunker Church in the background?
> >
> > Lieutenant-Colonel P. T. Manning, Chief of Ordinance, Right Wing, reported
the following losses at Sharpsburg in his report of October 14, 1862:
> >
> > "Lee's Battalion Artillery.-Captain. T. C. Jordan's battery, one 12-pounder
howitzer caisson. Captain A. B. Rhett's battery, one 12-pounder howitzer limber.
Captain W. W. Parker's battery, rear chests 12-pounder howitzer caisson. Captain
G. V. Moody's battery, one forge in Potomac. Captain Pichegru Wooldfolk's Jr.'s
battery, one 12-pounder howitzer and limber. Captain Morman's [M. N. Moorman -
see his reply] battery, two 10-pounder Parrott guns and rear carriage of
caisson. Captain Maurin's [see his reply] battery (Pryor's brigade), one
10-pounder rifle (Parrott) and caisson. One caisson was destroyed by the enemy's
shell during the fight."
> >
> >
>

Interview with the editor of "The Maryland Campaign of September, 1862,
Vol.!"

http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2010/07/15/interview-dr-thomas-clemens-the
-maryland-campaign-of-september-1862-vol-i/

Harry



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I only can offer this, which is from Frassanito's "ANTIETAM: The Photographic
Legacy of America's Bloodiest Day":

"Stationed during the battle where the abandoned limber chest stands in the
photograph was Capt. W.W. Parker's (Virginia) Battery of Col. S.D. Lee's
Artillery Battalion, and it is possible that the limber chest, as well as the
eight dead men visible here, belonged to that battery."

Tom Shay



From: ScottH
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:56 AM
To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Abandoned artillery limber near Dunker Church in
Gardner's photo.



Has anyone ever identified which Confederate battery lost the limber in the
foreground of the famous Alexander Gardner photo taken on September 19, 1862
with Dunker Church in the background?

Lieutenant-Colonel P. T. Manning, Chief of Ordinance, Right Wing, reported the
following losses at Sharpsburg in his report of October 14, 1862:

"Lee's Battalion Artillery.-Captain. T. C. Jordan's battery, one 12-pounder
howitzer caisson. Captain A. B. Rhett's battery, one 12-pounder howitzer limber.
Captain W. W. Parker's battery, rear chests 12-pounder howitzer caisson. Captain
G. V. Moody's battery, one forge in Potomac. Captain Pichegru Wooldfolk's Jr.'s
battery, one 12-pounder howitzer and limber. Captain Morman's [M. N. Moorman -
see his reply] battery, two 10-pounder Parrott guns and rear carriage of
caisson. Captain Maurin's [see his reply] battery (Pryor's brigade), one
10-pounder rifle (Parrott) and caisson. One caisson was destroyed by the enemy's
shell during the fight."



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks Tom, Frassanito's book was one of the first places I looked.  However,
according to Manning's report, Parker's Battery lost "rear chests 12-pounder
howitzer caisson" which I would NOT take to mean the entire limber which we see
in the photo.

Blue & Gray magazine ran an issue titled "Artillery Hell" which featured maps of
the various batteries during the battle.  However, I've found discrepancies
between those and other maps.

On the site of the abandoned limber (or near to it) is a government wayside.  If
I knew precisely how the batteries were arrayed I could possibly narrow down
which battery was MOST LIKELY to have lost that limber given their position in
line.




--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "RoteBaron" <RoteBaron@...> wrote:
>
> I only can offer this, which is from Frassanito's "ANTIETAM: The Photographic
Legacy of America's Bloodiest Day":
>
> "Stationed during the battle where the abandoned limber chest stands in the
photograph was Capt. W.W. Parker's (Virginia) Battery of Col. S.D. Lee's
Artillery Battalion, and it is possible that the limber chest, as well as the
eight dead men visible here, belonged to that battery."
>
> Tom Shay
>
>
>
> From: ScottH
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:56 AM
> To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [TalkAntietam] Abandoned artillery limber near Dunker Church in
Gardner's photo.
>
>
>
> Has anyone ever identified which Confederate battery lost the limber in the
foreground of the famous Alexander Gardner photo taken on September 19, 1862
with Dunker Church in the background?
>
> Lieutenant-Colonel P. T. Manning, Chief of Ordinance, Right Wing, reported the
following losses at Sharpsburg in his report of October 14, 1862:
>
> "Lee's Battalion Artillery.-Captain. T. C. Jordan's battery, one 12-pounder
howitzer caisson. Captain A. B. Rhett's battery, one 12-pounder howitzer limber.
Captain W. W. Parker's battery, rear chests 12-pounder howitzer caisson. Captain
G. V. Moody's battery, one forge in Potomac. Captain Pichegru Wooldfolk's Jr.'s
battery, one 12-pounder howitzer and limber. Captain Morman's [M. N. Moorman -
see his reply] battery, two 10-pounder Parrott guns and rear carriage of
caisson. Captain Maurin's [see his reply] battery (Pryor's brigade), one
10-pounder rifle (Parrott) and caisson. One caisson was destroyed by the enemy's
shell during the fight."
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Scott,
  Frasanito is correct that Parker's occupied that spot.  Krick the Elder
mentions it in his book on Parker's battery, although, sadly, he refers to the
limber as a caisson, and should know better.  He probably does by now.  There
were a number of guns that had trouble withdrawing, and Krick describes that
too.  One of the men in Parker's battery later claimed to recognize his brother
as one of thebodies, but Krick doubts it, and I agree.


Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
Professor of History
Hagerstown Community College


>>> "ScottH" <sdhann@...> 07/16/10 8:05 PM >>>
Thanks Tom, Frassanito's book was one of the first places I looked.  However,
according to Manning's report, Parker's Battery lost "rear chests 12-pounder
howitzer caisson" which I would NOT take to mean the entire limber which we see
in the photo.

Blue & Gray magazine ran an issue titled "Artillery Hell" which featured maps of
the various batteries during the battle.  However, I've found discrepancies
between those and other maps.

On the site of the abandoned limber (or near to it) is a government wayside.  If
I knew precisely how the batteries were arrayed I could possibly narrow down
which battery was MOST LIKELY to have lost that limber given their position in
line.




--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "RoteBaron" <RoteBaron@...> wrote:
>
> I only can offer this, which is from Frassanito's "ANTIETAM: The Photographic
Legacy of America's Bloodiest Day":
>
> "Stationed during the battle where the abandoned limber chest stands in the
photograph was Capt. W.W. Parker's (Virginia) Battery of Col. S.D. Lee's
Artillery Battalion, and it is possible that the limber chest, as well as the
eight dead men visible here, belonged to that battery."
>
> Tom Shay
>
>
>
> From: ScottH
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:56 AM
> To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [TalkAntietam] Abandoned artillery limber near Dunker Church in
Gardner's photo.
>
>
>
> Has anyone ever identified which Confederate battery lost the limber in the
foreground of the famous Alexander Gardner photo taken on September 19, 1862
with Dunker Church in the background?
>
> Lieutenant-Colonel P. T. Manning, Chief of Ordinance, Right Wing, reported the
following losses at Sharpsburg in his report of October 14, 1862:
>
> "Lee's Battalion Artillery.-Captain. T. C. Jordan's battery, one 12-pounder
howitzer caisson. Captain A. B. Rhett's battery, one 12-pounder howitzer limber.
Captain W. W. Parker's battery, rear chests 12-pounder howitzer caisson. Captain
G. V. Moody's battery, one forge in Potomac. Captain Pichegru Wooldfolk's Jr.'s
battery, one 12-pounder howitzer and limber. Captain Morman's [M. N. Moorman -
see his reply] battery, two 10-pounder Parrott guns and rear carriage of
caisson. Captain Maurin's [see his reply] battery (Pryor's brigade), one
10-pounder rifle (Parrott) and caisson. One caisson was destroyed by the enemy's
shell during the fight."
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Tom,

Thanks much for the information.  It's appreciated.

Where can I find the most accurate maps of the battle that would detail the
positions of the batteries in Lee's Battalion?  I'm curious to know which
batteries, closest to Parker, reported a limber lost.

Scott



--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@...> wrote:
>
> Scott,
>  Frasanito is correct that Parker's occupied that spot.  Krick the Elder
mentions it in his book on Parker's battery, although, sadly, he refers to the
limber as a caisson, and should know better.  He probably does by now.  There
were a number of guns that had trouble withdrawing, and Krick describes that
too.  One of the men in Parker's battery later claimed to recognize his brother
as one of thebodies, but Krick doubts it, and I agree.
>
>
> Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
> Professor of History
> Hagerstown Community College
>
>
> >>> "ScottH" <sdhann@...> 07/16/10 8:05 PM >>>
> Thanks Tom, Frassanito's book was one of the first places I looked.  However,
according to Manning's report, Parker's Battery lost "rear chests 12-pounder
howitzer caisson" which I would NOT take to mean the entire limber which we see
in the photo.
>
> Blue & Gray magazine ran an issue titled "Artillery Hell" which featured maps
of the various batteries during the battle.  However, I've found discrepancies
between those and other maps.
>
> On the site of the abandoned limber (or near to it) is a government wayside. 
If I knew precisely how the batteries were arrayed I could possibly narrow down
which battery was MOST LIKELY to have lost that limber given their position in
line.
>
>
>
>
> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "RoteBaron" <RoteBaron@> wrote:
> >
> > I only can offer this, which is from Frassanito's "ANTIETAM: The
Photographic Legacy of America's Bloodiest Day":
> >
> > "Stationed during the battle where the abandoned limber chest stands in the
photograph was Capt. W.W. Parker's (Virginia) Battery of Col. S.D. Lee's
Artillery Battalion, and it is possible that the limber chest, as well as the
eight dead men visible here, belonged to that battery."
> >
> > Tom Shay
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ScottH
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:56 AM
> > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [TalkAntietam] Abandoned artillery limber near Dunker Church in
Gardner's photo.
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone ever identified which Confederate battery lost the limber in the
foreground of the famous Alexander Gardner photo taken on September 19, 1862
with Dunker Church in the background?
> >
> > Lieutenant-Colonel P. T. Manning, Chief of Ordinance, Right Wing, reported
the following losses at Sharpsburg in his report of October 14, 1862:
> >
> > "Lee's Battalion Artillery.-Captain. T. C. Jordan's battery, one 12-pounder
howitzer caisson. Captain A. B. Rhett's battery, one 12-pounder howitzer limber.
Captain W. W. Parker's battery, rear chests 12-pounder howitzer caisson. Captain
G. V. Moody's battery, one forge in Potomac. Captain Pichegru Wooldfolk's Jr.'s
battery, one 12-pounder howitzer and limber. Captain Morman's [M. N. Moorman -
see his reply] battery, two 10-pounder Parrott guns and rear carriage of
caisson. Captain Maurin's [see his reply] battery (Pryor's brigade), one
10-pounder rifle (Parrott) and caisson. One caisson was destroyed by the enemy's
shell during the fight."
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Scott,
I don't think you'll find out.  Carman's map only shows the battalion, or at
least part of it, but not individual batteries.  We know Woolfolk was on the
right, making Parker next, or perhaps third from the right.  Only Lee wrote a
report, did not mention specific batteries losing a limber, but does say Wolfolk
left a gun on the field due to lose of horses, drivers, etc.  he doesn't say it,
but perhaps also a limber to move it????

>>> "ScottH" <sdhann@...> 07/19/10 7:29 PM >>>
Tom,

Thanks much for the information.  It's appreciated.

Where can I find the most accurate maps of the battle that would detail the
positions of the batteries in Lee's Battalion?  I'm curious to know which
batteries, closest to Parker, reported a limber lost.

Scott



--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@...> wrote:
>
> Scott,
>  Frasanito is correct that Parker's occupied that spot.  Krick the Elder
mentions it in his book on Parker's battery, although, sadly, he refers to the
limber as a caisson, and should know better.  He probably does by now.  There
were a number of guns that had trouble withdrawing, and Krick describes that
too.  One of the men in Parker's battery later claimed to recognize his brother
as one of thebodies, but Krick doubts it, and I agree.
>
>
> Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
> Professor of History
> Hagerstown Community College
>
>
> >>> "ScottH" <sdhann@...> 07/16/10 8:05 PM >>>
> Thanks Tom, Frassanito's book was one of the first places I looked.  However,
according to Manning's report, Parker's Battery lost "rear chests 12-pounder
howitzer caisson" which I would NOT take to mean the entire limber which we see
in the photo.
>
> Blue & Gray magazine ran an issue titled "Artillery Hell" which featured maps
of the various batteries during the battle.  However, I've found discrepancies
between those and other maps.
>
> On the site of the abandoned limber (or near to it) is a government wayside. 
If I knew precisely how the batteries were arrayed I could possibly narrow down
which battery was MOST LIKELY to have lost that limber given their position in
line.
>
>
>
>
> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "RoteBaron" <RoteBaron@> wrote:
> >
> > I only can offer this, which is from Frassanito's "ANTIETAM: The
Photographic Legacy of America's Bloodiest Day":
> >
> > "Stationed during the battle where the abandoned limber chest stands in the
photograph was Capt. W.W. Parker's (Virginia) Battery of Col. S.D. Lee's
Artillery Battalion, and it is possible that the limber chest, as well as the
eight dead men visible here, belonged to that battery."
> >
> > Tom Shay
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ScottH
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:56 AM
> > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [TalkAntietam] Abandoned artillery limber near Dunker Church in
Gardner's photo.
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone ever identified which Confederate battery lost the limber in the
foreground of the famous Alexander Gardner photo taken on September 19, 1862
with Dunker Church in the background?
> >
> > Lieutenant-Colonel P. T. Manning, Chief of Ordinance, Right Wing, reported
the following losses at Sharpsburg in his report of October 14, 1862:
> >
> > "Lee's Battalion Artillery.-Captain. T. C. Jordan's battery, one 12-pounder
howitzer caisson. Captain A. B. Rhett's battery, one 12-pounder howitzer limber.
Captain W. W. Parker's battery, rear chests 12-pounder howitzer caisson. Captain
G. V. Moody's battery, one forge in Potomac. Captain Pichegru Wooldfolk's Jr.'s
battery, one 12-pounder howitzer and limber. Captain Morman's [M. N. Moorman -
see his reply] battery, two 10-pounder Parrott guns and rear carriage of
caisson. Captain Maurin's [see his reply] battery (Pryor's brigade), one
10-pounder rifle (Parrott) and caisson. One caisson was destroyed by the enemy's
shell during the fight."
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Dear Scott,

You can try the website for Antietam on the Web or the Library of Congress
holdings of the Cope-Carman maps.

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "ScottH" <sdhann@...>
To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 7:29 PM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Abandoned artillery limber near Dunker Church in
Gardner's photo.


> Tom,
>
> Thanks much for the information.  It's appreciated.
>
> Where can I find the most accurate maps of the battle that would detail the
positions of the batteries in Lee's Battalion?  I'm curious to know which
batteries, closest to Parker, reported a limber lost.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@...> wrote:
>>
>> Scott,
>>  Frasanito is correct that Parker's occupied that spot.  Krick the Elder
mentions it in his book on Parker's battery, although, sadly, he refers to the
limber as a caisson, and should know better.  He probably does by now.  There
were a number of guns that had trouble withdrawing, and Krick describes that
too.  One of the men in Parker's battery later claimed to recognize his brother
as one of thebodies, but Krick doubts it, and I agree.
>>
>>
>> Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
>> Professor of History
>> Hagerstown Community College
>>
>>
>> >>> "ScottH" <sdhann@...> 07/16/10 8:05 PM >>>
>> Thanks Tom, Frassanito's book was one of the first places I looked.  However,
according to Manning's report, Parker's Battery lost "rear chests 12-pounder
howitzer caisson" which I would NOT take to mean the entire limber which we see
in the photo.
>>
>> Blue & Gray magazine ran an issue titled "Artillery Hell" which featured maps
of the various batteries during the battle.  However, I've found discrepancies
between those and other maps.
>>
>> On the site of the abandoned limber (or near to it) is a government wayside. 
If I knew precisely how the batteries were arrayed I could possibly narrow down
which battery was MOST LIKELY to have lost that limber given their position in
line.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "RoteBaron" <RoteBaron@> wrote:
>> >
>> > I only can offer this, which is from Frassanito's "ANTIETAM: The
Photographic Legacy of America's Bloodiest Day":
>> >
>> > "Stationed during the battle where the abandoned limber chest stands in the
photograph was Capt. W.W. Parker's (Virginia) Battery of Col. S.D. Lee's
Artillery Battalion, and it is possible that the limber chest, as well as the
eight dead men visible here, belonged to that battery."
>> >
>> > Tom Shay
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: ScottH
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:56 AM
>> > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: [TalkAntietam] Abandoned artillery limber near Dunker Church in
Gardner's photo.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Has anyone ever identified which Confederate battery lost the limber in the
foreground of the famous Alexander Gardner photo taken on September 19, 1862
with Dunker Church in the background?
>> >
>> > Lieutenant-Colonel P. T. Manning, Chief of Ordinance, Right Wing, reported
the following losses at Sharpsburg in his report of October 14, 1862:
>> >
>> > "Lee's Battalion Artillery.-Captain. T. C. Jordan's battery, one 12-pounder
howitzer caisson. Captain A. B. Rhett's battery, one 12-pounder howitzer limber.
Captain W. W. Parker's battery, rear chests 12-pounder howitzer caisson. Captain
G. V. Moody's battery, one forge in Potomac. Captain Pichegru Wooldfolk's Jr.'s
battery, one 12-pounder howitzer and limber. Captain Morman's [M. N. Moorman -
see his reply] battery, two 10-pounder Parrott guns and rear carriage of
caisson. Captain Maurin's [see his reply] battery (Pryor's brigade), one
10-pounder rifle (Parrott) and caisson. One caisson was destroyed by the enemy's
shell during the fight."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>>
>
>
>

From Hagerstown Herald-Mail  (July 28, 2010):



60-ACRE PROPERTY NEAR BATTLEFIELD APPROVED FOR EASEMENT



A 60-acre property near Antietam National Battlefield has been approved for a
conservation easement by Maryland’s Board of Public Works, the Maryland
Department of Natural Resources said in a press release Wednesday. The easement,
part of the state’s Rural Legacy Program, will preserve the historically
significant land, known as the Meyers Property, for future generations, the
release said.



“By protecting this land, we are not only supporting an ecologically important
area, but preserving an important piece of our State’s history,” Gov. Martin
O’Malley was quoted as saying in the release. “This acquisition ensures that
our rich heritage and our great outdoors will be protected for future
generations of Marylanders.”



The easement will be held by Washington County. The Meyers Property is
historically important due to its role in the Civil War, the press release said.

During the Battle of Antietam, Miller’s Sawmill Road, which runs along the
property, was used by A.P. Hill’s Light Infantry Division to fortify Robert E.
Lee against Burnside’s division, thereby preventing the destruction of Lee’s
Army, according to the press release. Not only did this property witness the
flanking of Lee’s army, it also provided encampment following the Battle of
Antietam for the Union soldiers, the release said.



The easement will also extinguish 47 development rights in the viewshed of
Anetietam Battlefield, the release said. The easement will support wildlife
conservation and pollution control, as the protected land includes prime
agricultural soils and 1,125 feet of grassland riparian buffers along streams
that feed into Antietam Creek, it said.



“Washington County is pleased to partner with the State on this important
conservation easement that will protect prime agricultural land within a
historically significant area,” Eric Seifarth, Land Preservation Administrator
for Washington County, said in the release. “We are glad the Governor has such
an interest in the history of the Mid-Maryland Washington Rural Legacy Area, and
the desire to protect this area.”



Article is at:
http://www.herald-mail.com/?cmd=displaystory&story_id=249940&format=html



Tom Shay

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Harpers Ferry needs your help.

http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/key-harpers-ferry-battlefield-l
and-threatened/

Harry





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Harry...

The posting fails to point out that the water and sewer lines at Bolivar-South
were installed in easements that the owner retained when they sold the land to
the NPS.  They had every right to install the utility lines.  The violation was
that they failed to get the appropriate permits from NPS.  I am sure the NPS
would not have unduly held up the permit and denied the easement holder their
legitimate property rights to use the easement (wink).  The NPS is obliged, like
any party, to abide by its contractural agreements.

Am I thrilled with development the size of 16 walmarts there?  Of course not. 
But, we need to be objective in our analysis and argument or we come off looking
silly and hysterical.  Frankly, I don't see there EVER being enough demand for
that much development there anyway.  That would be like building everything on
Buckeystown Pike and Urbana Pike south of Frederick from scratch.

Something to be concerned about?  Yes.  However, I think some hysteria is being
invoked here.

Stephen,

Would you mind terribly posting this to the comments section of my blog?  If
I can get confirmation on what you say about the digging, I'll amend the
post.

Harry



-----Original Message-----
From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Stephen
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 11:59 AM
To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Preservation Alert





Harry...

The posting fails to point out that the water and sewer lines at
Bolivar-South were installed in easements that the owner retained when they
sold the land to the NPS. They had every right to install the utility lines.
The violation was that they failed to get the appropriate permits from NPS.
I am sure the NPS would not have unduly held up the permit and denied the
easement holder their legitimate property rights to use the easement (wink).
The NPS is obliged, like any party, to abide by its contractural agreements.

Am I thrilled with development the size of 16 walmarts there? Of course not.
But, we need to be objective in our analysis and argument or we come off
looking silly and hysterical. Frankly, I don't see there EVER being enough
demand for that much development there anyway. That would be like building
everything on Buckeystown Pike and Urbana Pike south of Frederick from
scratch.

Something to be concerned about? Yes. However, I think some hysteria is
being invoked here.





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True enough Steve, but you know as well as I do that the NPS had the
requirement to perform a 106 Enviromental Impact Assessment  & an
Archeological Assessment before any digging can be done.  The developers
knew that too and so that acted, purposefully to avoid the legal
requirements.  Sympathy from me?  Forget it.  They are pond scum.  The
people of the US are left with an archelogicaly compromised ite because
these guys didn't want to be bothered.
In further evidence of their shyster behavior, Dennis Frye mentioned
that they got a state law passed that exempts them from any local zoning
ordinances, so even the people of Jefferson County cannot exercise their
rights.  Shame on WV.




Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
Professor of History
Hagerstown Community College


>>> "Stephen" <jeffcowvplanning@...> 08/03/10 11:58 AM >>>
Harry...

The posting fails to point out that the water and sewer lines at
Bolivar-South were installed in easements that the owner retained when
they sold the land to the NPS.  They had every right to install the
utility lines.  The violation was that they failed to get the
appropriate permits from NPS.  I am sure the NPS would not have unduly
held up the permit and denied the easement holder their legitimate
property rights to use the easement (wink).  The NPS is obliged, like
any party, to abide by its contractural agreements.

Am I thrilled with development the size of 16 walmarts there?  Of course
not.  But, we need to be objective in our analysis and argument or we
come off looking silly and hysterical.  Frankly, I don't see there EVER
being enough demand for that much development there anyway.  That would
be like building everything on Buckeystown Pike and Urbana Pike south of
Frederick from scratch.

Something to be concerned about?  Yes.  However, I think some hysteria
is being invoked here.

I have to thank Harry for posting this and Steve for wanting to have all the
facts properly shown.   I also have to point out to Steve that I would estimate
that 75-80% of the buildings between 85 and 340 have been put there in the last
10-15 years and that is no small amount. This development surrounds Monocacy and
they are still trying to put the incinerator across the river overshadowing the
Worthington property.
Look at what occurred in Middletown Valley and the numerous threats to the
farming communities and South Mountain.  Harper's Ferry is right in line for the
development that will destroy the integrity of that park not just for historical
purposes but the view sheds as well.
I agree we need to have our facts straight.  I disagree that this is an over
reaction.
These people have had their plan in motion for years and shame on us for not
paying attention and having the forward thinking they do, and none should feel
more shame than I do.  It is our turn to act and get involved.  I firmly believe
that what is not saved in the next 10 years will be lost for all future
generations.
Thanks!
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Folks,

On a wargaming board, one guy recently purchased a model of the Church and
saw that the model had clapboard siding on the church.

I know the church was brick. did it ever have wooden siding?

Inquiring minds want to know...

Dave Powell


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Not that I know of.


Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
Professor of History
Hagerstown Community College


>>> <DPowell334@...> 08/03/10 7:43 PM >>>
Folks,

On a wargaming board, one guy recently purchased a model of the Church
and
saw that the model had clapboard siding on the church.

I know the church was brick. did it ever have wooden siding?

Inquiring minds want to know...

Dave Powell


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I too have never heard of the Dunkard Church having any sort of wooden
siding..........

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@...>
To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Dunker Church


> Not that I know of.
>
>
> Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
> Professor of History
> Hagerstown Community College
>
>
>>>> <DPowell334@...> 08/03/10 7:43 PM >>>
> Folks,
>
> On a wargaming board, one guy recently purchased a model of the Church
> and
> saw that the model had clapboard siding on the church.
>
> I know the church was brick. did it ever have wooden siding?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> Dave Powell
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to publicly thank Tom, Dennis Frye, Harry and all the others
who put together such a great and instructive tour.  It was the first
ACW tour I've ever attended, and it was well worth the trip over the
mountains from Cincy to be there.  Simply sitting there at lunch and
listening to the conversation was worth the price of admission, I was in
complete awe.  Nicest bunch of people I've ever been around.

Dave McGowan

I too have never heard of the church ever having any wooden siding. However,
that doesn't mean that it didn't. If there were an earlier structure it may
have had siding as most smaller buildings had clap board siding to start
with. I started a deed chain on that property last year some time to see
what else was there. If you check what was supposedly there against the tax
records it just doesn't match up correctly. I must note that there were a
few more homes in that area that aren't there now.

Ian Workman

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:11 PM, G E Mayers <gerry1952@...> wrote:

>
>
> I too have never heard of the Dunkard Church having any sort of wooden
> siding..........
>
> Yr. Obt. Svt.
> G E "Gerry" Mayers
>
> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
> mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to
> any foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@...<clemenst%40hagerstowncc.edu>
> >
> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com <TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Dunker Church
>
> > Not that I know of.
> >
> >
> > Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
> > Professor of History
> > Hagerstown Community College
> >
> >
> >>>> <DPowell334@... <DPowell334%40AOL.COM>> 08/03/10 7:43 PM >>>
> > Folks,
> >
> > On a wargaming board, one guy recently purchased a model of the Church
> > and
> > saw that the model had clapboard siding on the church.
> >
> > I know the church was brick. did it ever have wooden siding?
> >
> > Inquiring minds want to know...
> >
> > Dave Powell
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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So sad but true. Please remember that the Park had ample time to arrange the
purchase of this property. That entire side of the ridge by the road is
zoned commercial and has been for many years. It is a lot easier to zone
commerical property that is already attached to more commercial property.
The more money Jefferson County brings in the better Charelston will feel.
Preservation of Jefferson County will only become harder as our taxes in the
county increase. I believe that this county brings in the majority of the
money for the state. Why would the state want to save ground that it can
heavily tax?  It all started way back when the Cliffside was purchased and
the Raft shop was set up. A few of us tried to talk to people in the park
about the historic context of the land but we were ignored for the 50th time
as usual. This area was being shelled from Louden Heights as well as School
House Ridge (site of the Fed. Building there now). It is a shame that this
area may be turned into another shopping center. The area where the flea
market is will soon be gone as well! Shame Shame Shame!

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Thomas Clemens
<clemenst@...>wrote:

>
>
> True enough Steve, but you know as well as I do that the NPS had the
> requirement to perform a 106 Enviromental Impact Assessment & an
> Archeological Assessment before any digging can be done. The developers
> knew that too and so that acted, purposefully to avoid the legal
> requirements. Sympathy from me? Forget it. They are pond scum. The
> people of the US are left with an archelogicaly compromised ite because
> these guys didn't want to be bothered.
> In further evidence of their shyster behavior, Dennis Frye mentioned
> that they got a state law passed that exempts them from any local zoning
> ordinances, so even the people of Jefferson County cannot exercise their
> rights. Shame on WV.
>
> Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
> Professor of History
> Hagerstown Community College
>
> >>> "Stephen" <jeffcowvplanning@... <jeffcowvplanning%40yahoo.com>>
> 08/03/10 11:58 AM >>>
>
> Harry...
>
> The posting fails to point out that the water and sewer lines at
> Bolivar-South were installed in easements that the owner retained when
> they sold the land to the NPS. They had every right to install the
> utility lines. The violation was that they failed to get the
> appropriate permits from NPS. I am sure the NPS would not have unduly
> held up the permit and denied the easement holder their legitimate
> property rights to use the easement (wink). The NPS is obliged, like
> any party, to abide by its contractural agreements.
>
> Am I thrilled with development the size of 16 walmarts there? Of course
> not. But, we need to be objective in our analysis and argument or we
> come off looking silly and hysterical. Frankly, I don't see there EVER
> being enough demand for that much development there anyway. That would
> be like building everything on Buckeystown Pike and Urbana Pike south of
> Frederick from scratch.
>
> Something to be concerned about? Yes. However, I think some hysteria
> is being invoked here.
>
>
>


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The Civil War museum I head has a wooden shingle that is supposed to be from the
original Dunker Church. It has a painting of the Church on it which was painted
and signed by a member of the Mumma family. I can only speak for the shingles
though.

Matt

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 4, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Ian Workman <cwdigger@...> wrote:

I too have never heard of the church ever having any wooden siding. However,
that doesn't mean that it didn't. If there were an earlier structure it may
have had siding as most smaller buildings had clap board siding to start
with. I started a deed chain on that property last year some time to see
what else was there. If you check what was supposedly there against the tax
records it just doesn't match up correctly. I must note that there were a
few more homes in that area that aren't there now.

Ian Workman

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:11 PM, G E Mayers <gerry1952@...> wrote:



I too have never heard of the Dunkard Church having any sort of wooden
siding..........

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to
any foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@...<clemenst%40hagerstowncc.edu>

To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com <TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Dunker Church

Not that I know of.


Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
Professor of History
Hagerstown Community College


<DPowell334@... <DPowell334%40AOL.COM>> 08/03/10 7:43 PM >>>
Folks,

On a wargaming board, one guy recently purchased a model of the Church
and
saw that the model had clapboard siding on the church.

I know the church was brick. did it ever have wooden siding?

Inquiring minds want to know...

Dave Powell


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Matt,

There was, after the original church blew down in a windstorm in the early
1920s, a snack stand on the site. Could the shingle be from that building?

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Reardon" <mreardon1862@...>
To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Dunker Church


> The Civil War museum I head has a wooden shingle that is supposed to be from
the original Dunker Church. It has a painting of the Church on it which was
painted and signed by a member of the Mumma family. I can only speak for the
shingles though.
>
> Matt
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Aug 4, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Ian Workman <cwdigger@...> wrote:
>
> I too have never heard of the church ever having any wooden siding. However,
> that doesn't mean that it didn't. If there were an earlier structure it may
> have had siding as most smaller buildings had clap board siding to start
> with. I started a deed chain on that property last year some time to see
> what else was there. If you check what was supposedly there against the tax
> records it just doesn't match up correctly. I must note that there were a
> few more homes in that area that aren't there now.
>
> Ian Workman
>
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:11 PM, G E Mayers <gerry1952@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I too have never heard of the Dunkard Church having any sort of wooden
> siding..........
>
> Yr. Obt. Svt.
> G E "Gerry" Mayers
>
> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
> mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to
> any foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@...<clemenst%40hagerstowncc.edu>
>
> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com <TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Dunker Church
>
> Not that I know of.
>
>
> Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
> Professor of History
> Hagerstown Community College
>
>
> <DPowell334@... <DPowell334%40AOL.COM>> 08/03/10 7:43 PM >>>
> Folks,
>
> On a wargaming board, one guy recently purchased a model of the Church
> and
> saw that the model had clapboard siding on the church.
>
> I know the church was brick. did it ever have wooden siding?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> Dave Powell
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

The church was built in the 1850's, forget the exact year but think it
was 1857, on a small plat donated by Sam Mumma.  What may be confusing
someone isthat after it was destroyed in 1920's a small grocery store
was erected on the foundation in the 1930 & 40's which was, I think, a
wooden building.  But that building was never the Dunkard Church.

Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
Professor of History
Hagerstown Community College


>>> Ian Workman <cwdigger@...> 08/04/10 1:35 PM >>>
I too have never heard of the church ever having any wooden siding.
However,
that doesn't mean that it didn't. If there were an earlier structure it
may
have had siding as most smaller buildings had clap board siding to start
with. I started a deed chain on that property last year some time to see
what else was there. If you check what was supposedly there against the
tax
records it just doesn't match up correctly. I must note that there were
a
few more homes in that area that aren't there now.

Ian Workman

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:11 PM, G E Mayers <gerry1952@...>
wrote:

>
>
> I too have never heard of the Dunkard Church having any sort of wooden
> siding..........
>
> Yr. Obt. Svt.
> G E "Gerry" Mayers
>
> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
one's
> mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a
passport to
> any foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God.
--Anonymous
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Clemens"
<clemenst@...<clemenst%40hagerstowncc.edu>
> >
> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com <TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Dunker Church
>
> > Not that I know of.
> >
> >
> > Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
> > Professor of History
> > Hagerstown Community College
> >
> >
> >>>> <DPowell334@... <DPowell334%40AOL.COM>> 08/03/10 7:43 PM >>>
> > Folks,
> >
> > On a wargaming board, one guy recently purchased a model of the
Church
> > and
> > saw that the model had clapboard siding on the church.
> >
> > I know the church was brick. did it ever have wooden siding?
> >
> > Inquiring minds want to know...
> >
> > Dave Powell
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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I wonder if it's possibly a model of Manor Dunker Church that was a few
miles up the road closer to Hagerstown.  This is where William Roulette sent
his family during the battle - read all about it in my Collateral Damage
column in the upcoming issue of Civil War Times!

Harry



-----Original Message-----
From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Thomas Clemens
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 4:49 PM
To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Dunker Church





The church was built in the 1850's, forget the exact year but think it
was 1857, on a small plat donated by Sam Mumma. What may be confusing
someone isthat after it was destroyed in 1920's a small grocery store
was erected on the foundation in the 1930 & 40's which was, I think, a
wooden building. But that building was never the Dunkard Church.

Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
Professor of History
Hagerstown Community College

>>> Ian Workman <cwdigger@... <mailto:cwdigger%40gmail.com> > 08/04/10
1:35 PM >>>
I too have never heard of the church ever having any wooden siding.
However,
that doesn't mean that it didn't. If there were an earlier structure it
may
have had siding as most smaller buildings had clap board siding to start
with. I started a deed chain on that property last year some time to see
what else was there. If you check what was supposedly there against the
tax
records it just doesn't match up correctly. I must note that there were
a
few more homes in that area that aren't there now.

Ian Workman

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:11 PM, G E Mayers <gerry1952@...
<mailto:gerry1952%40verizon.net> >
wrote:

>
>
> I too have never heard of the Dunkard Church having any sort of wooden
> siding..........
>
> Yr. Obt. Svt.
> G E "Gerry" Mayers
>
> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
one's
> mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a
passport to
> any foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God.
--Anonymous
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Clemens"
<clemenst@... <mailto:clemenst%40hagerstowncc.edu>
<clemenst%40hagerstowncc.edu>
> >
> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com <mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com>
<TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Dunker Church
>
> > Not that I know of.
> >
> >
> > Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
> > Professor of History
> > Hagerstown Community College
> >
> >
> >>>> <DPowell334@... <mailto:DPowell334%40AOL.COM>
<DPowell334%40AOL.COM>> 08/03/10 7:43 PM >>>
> > Folks,
> >
> > On a wargaming board, one guy recently purchased a model of the
Church
> > and
> > saw that the model had clapboard siding on the church.
> >
> > I know the church was brick. did it ever have wooden siding?
> >
> > Inquiring minds want to know...
> >
> > Dave Powell
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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