Gerry,  I believe you are referring to BURNSIDE'S BRIDGE by Phillip Thomas
Tucker.

Not a bad book, but Tucker does make some errant statements. For instance,
he refers to my county's 48th PA Infantry as "including among their ranks
mulattoes and free blacks". Totally false.

Tucker touts the Rebels defense at the bridge as something akin to a
Themopylae as he states that Benning "and General Toombs would channel the
spirit of Leonidas when they defended the Rohrbach Bridge."

Tom Shay - in County Schuylkill, PA

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From: "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:49 PM
To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Question on the IX Corps assault

> Did Glenn Tucker have a book on the Ninth Corps at Antietam also?
>
> Yr. Obt. Svt.
> G E "Gerry" Mayers
>
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> mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to
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> From: "Nick KURTZ" <ShilohNick@...>
> To: <talkantietam@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:56 AM
> Subject: RE: [TalkAntietam] Question on the IX Corps assault
>
>
>>
>> There are also a variety of sources (books and magazine articles) that
>> deal with Burnside's Bridge and the final attack.  Stephen Recker gave a
>> great talk on the final attack at the 2009 Rocky Mountain Civil War
>> Symposium.
>>
>> --Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
>> From: hjs21@...
>> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:13:49 -0500
>> Subject: RE: [TalkAntietam] Question on the IX Corps assault
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Matt,
>>
>> There are two books that deal specifically with 9th Corps (sorry, I don't
>> use Roman numerals because, well, they didn't). One is by John Schildt
>> which I have not read. But John Hoptak's new book "Our Boys Did Nobly" is
>> a
>> very detailed look at elements of 9th Corps in the campaign. Give it a
>> look.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Thomas Clemens
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:04 AM
>> To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Question on the IX Corps assault
>>
>> Matt,
>> Your advisor is the final authority on this, but my suggestion is to
>> start
>> with a very quick overview of the campaign & the leaders, intentions,
>> goals,
>> political and military situation. Then go a bit more in-depth for the
>> events
>> of Sept. 17 to set the stage for the assault; ie. stalemate on the Union
>> right, stymied in the center, success at the Burnside bridge, and NOW the
>> last hope for complete victory, the Final Assault!
>> Does that make sense to you?
>>
>> Dr. Thomas G. Clemens
>> Professor of History
>> Hagerstown Community College
>>
>>>>> Matt Reardon <mreardon1862@ <mailto:mreardon1862%40yahoo.com>
>>>>> yahoo.com>
>> 2/24/2010 10:41 AM >>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm working on a master's project that deals with the "Final Assault" by
>> the
>> IX Corps. From those of you who have written about similar topics, where
>> is
>> a good starting point? Do I start with the weeks leading up to the
>> battle?
>> What type of background information is needed for the reader to
>> understand
>> the "Final Assault"?
>> I ask this because I've already covered so many topics in the paper and I
>> need to tone it down. From a historian's perspective, what's important
>> and
>> what's not?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Matt Reardon
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
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Kind of you to say, Nick. That was a lot of fun.

Gallagher's book "The Antietam Campaign" has a great story about the 16h CT. I
think it is that reg't that is the most interesting part of the final attack.
And I think it was in Carman where I read about the cross fire of the cannon on
the south end of the field causing Gregg to go to his right and ending up on the
flank of the 4th RI and the 16th CT. I would love to read a dissertation about
all of that.

Stephen

--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, Nick KURTZ <ShilohNick@...> wrote:
>
>
> There are also a variety of sources (books and magazine articles) that deal
with Burnside's Bridge and the final attack.  Stephen Recker gave a great talk
on the final attack at the 2009 Rocky Mountain Civil War Symposium.
>
> --Nick
>
>
>
> To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
> From: hjs21@...
> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:13:49 -0500
> Subject: RE: [TalkAntietam] Question on the IX Corps assault
>
>
>
>
>
> Matt,
>
> There are two books that deal specifically with 9th Corps (sorry, I don't
> use Roman numerals because, well, they didn't). One is by John Schildt
> which I have not read. But John Hoptak's new book "Our Boys Did Nobly" is a
> very detailed look at elements of 9th Corps in the campaign. Give it a
> look.
>
> Harry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Thomas Clemens
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:04 AM
> To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Question on the IX Corps assault
>
> Matt,
> Your advisor is the final authority on this, but my suggestion is to start
> with a very quick overview of the campaign & the leaders, intentions, goals,
> political and military situation. Then go a bit more in-depth for the events
> of Sept. 17 to set the stage for the assault; ie. stalemate on the Union
> right, stymied in the center, success at the Burnside bridge, and NOW the
> last hope for complete victory, the Final Assault!
> Does that make sense to you?
>
> Dr. Thomas G. Clemens
> Professor of History
> Hagerstown Community College
>
> >>> Matt Reardon <mreardon1862@ <mailto:mreardon1862%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
> 2/24/2010 10:41 AM >>>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm working on a master's project that deals with the "Final Assault" by the
> IX Corps. From those of you who have written about similar topics, where is
> a good starting point? Do I start with the weeks leading up to the battle?
> What type of background information is needed for the reader to understand
> the "Final Assault"?
> I ask this because I've already covered so many topics in the paper and I
> need to tone it down. From a historian's perspective, what's important and
> what's not?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Matt Reardon
>
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>
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>
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Stephen..
A little progress...

Page 208, Volume 3, Battles and leaders has a drawing of Little Sorrel, and it
states it is made from a photograph taken at Hagerstown in 1884.  If this was
made from Douglas' Recher photo...it is heavily redone...a pastoral background
with a paddock fence is drawn on, which I am sure is a lot different from what
Douglas' front yard looked like...even back then.  Also, the aged Stonewall
Brigade vet, Napoleon Hull, who is supposed to be holding him in the photo, is
not in the drawing.

I contacted the VMI Museum, and they don't have the photo (but would like a copy
should I find it).  I am going to reach out to Doug Bast, the Jackson HQ in
Winchester, the MOC, and Antietam Battlefield (they have some of Douglas'
stuff).  If it can't be found at any of these points....then I doubt it will
turn up.

Though you might like to know the progress.

Steve

--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "s_recker" <recker@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> That's great about the book. Looking forward to it. I heard about it last week
when I went by your office trying to find info on the location of photo
galleries on West Washington Street. Love the markers, BTW.
>
> I'm pretty sure that you won't find that image at the WCHS. I've spent a lot
of time the last few years organizing their photographs, with a particular eye
on the Recher stereoviews. I have scanned all of their stereos and they have a
printed book you can peruse. That said, don't let me dissuade you from looking
through the stacks. I hope I missed some really good stuff.
>
> Stephen
>
> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "jeffcowvplanning" <jeffcowvplanning@>
wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Stephen.  I found the reference on the net when I googled "Little
Sorrel" and "Hagerstown"...didn't actually read it in a hard copy of the book.
> >
> > I am working on a photo-history of Hagerstown in the Civil War, and would
like to use it in the post-war chapter, if I can find it.  I am praying I will
find it at the WC Historical Society.
> >
> > By the way...I am the designer of the historic markers you mentioned.  More
are on the way.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "s_recker" <recker@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Steve,
> > >
> > > What a great tidbit. I don't remember having read that. I am not aware of
the image, but know who to ask and will report.
> > >
> > > If Recher took an outdoor image in 1884, it would be a stereoview,
published on a bright orange mount. He died in 1887, though strangely I just
became aware of an 1888 image on one of his orange stereoview mounts? So, he may
have been taking photographs after his death?
> > >
> > > Strange that he chose Recher to take the photo of Little Sorrel, as famed
Hagerstown/Antietam photographer B.W.T. Phreaner lived right across Potomac
Street from Douglas. Both houses still stand. In fact, a nice old portrait of
Douglas, taken by Phreaner late in life, was just put on a wayside outside the
Hagerstown City Building at West Washington and Summit downtown.
> > >
> > > Phreaner was known to compete in the Hagerstown Ag Fair's photo contest
and was probably at his booth when Douglas went looking for a photographer to
snap an image of Stonewall's horse. The story I imagine is that Phreaner came
back to find he had been scooped by Recher and was very upset. Douglas, to ease
his mind, promised that he would sit for a portrait. And that is how history is
made.
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "jeffcowvplanning"
<jeffcowvplanning@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Howdy everyone.  Looking for a needle in a haystack.
> > > >
> > > > In "Stonewall Rode With Me" (grin), Henry K. Douglas related that in
1884 he arrange for Little Sorrel to be brought to Hagerstown to be exhibited in
the Hagerstown Agricultural Fair.  He wrote that there was a photo taken by
Recher of the horse on his front lawn, held by an aged veteran of the Stonewall
Brigade.
> > > >
> > > > Does anybody know if any copies of this photo still exist, and if so,
where?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > > Steve Bockmiller
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Does anyone know what "Little Sorrel's" real name is?  Dont run to google...it
can be found....but does anyone know without looking?

Hint...it wasn't "Little Sorrel".

Steve

IIRC it was Fancy

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "jeffcowvplanning" <jeffcowvplanning@...>
To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:03 AM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Trivia Question


> Does anyone know what "Little Sorrel's" real name is?  Dont run to google...it
can be found....but does anyone know without looking?
>
> Hint...it wasn't "Little Sorrel".
>
> Steve
>
>

Steve,

Very interesting. Well, at least we have something. B&L used a number of
Recher's photos as illustrations, most notably his Sunken Road image. There is
also a Fox Gap image they attribute to him. I have never seen the original. B&L
came out right about the time Recher was handing the mantle to Phreaner.

Good luck with your hunting. That is exciting. Keep us updated. Thanks.

Stephen

--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "jeffcowvplanning" <jeffcowvplanning@...>
wrote:
>
> Stephen..
> A little progress...
>
> Page 208, Volume 3, Battles and leaders has a drawing of Little Sorrel, and it
states it is made from a photograph taken at Hagerstown in 1884.  If this was
made from Douglas' Recher photo...it is heavily redone...a pastoral background
with a paddock fence is drawn on, which I am sure is a lot different from what
Douglas' front yard looked like...even back then.  Also, the aged Stonewall
Brigade vet, Napoleon Hull, who is supposed to be holding him in the photo, is
not in the drawing.
>
> I contacted the VMI Museum, and they don't have the photo (but would like a
copy should I find it).  I am going to reach out to Doug Bast, the Jackson HQ in
Winchester, the MOC, and Antietam Battlefield (they have some of Douglas'
stuff).  If it can't be found at any of these points....then I doubt it will
turn up.
>
> Though you might like to know the progress.
>
> Steve
>
> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "s_recker" <recker@> wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > That's great about the book. Looking forward to it. I heard about it last
week when I went by your office trying to find info on the location of photo
galleries on West Washington Street. Love the markers, BTW.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that you won't find that image at the WCHS. I've spent a lot
of time the last few years organizing their photographs, with a particular eye
on the Recher stereoviews. I have scanned all of their stereos and they have a
printed book you can peruse. That said, don't let me dissuade you from looking
through the stacks. I hope I missed some really good stuff.
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "jeffcowvplanning" <jeffcowvplanning@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, Stephen.  I found the reference on the net when I googled "Little
Sorrel" and "Hagerstown"...didn't actually read it in a hard copy of the book.
> > >
> > > I am working on a photo-history of Hagerstown in the Civil War, and would
like to use it in the post-war chapter, if I can find it.  I am praying I will
find it at the WC Historical Society.
> > >
> > > By the way...I am the designer of the historic markers you mentioned. 
More are on the way.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "s_recker" <recker@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Steve,
> > > >
> > > > What a great tidbit. I don't remember having read that. I am not aware
of the image, but know who to ask and will report.
> > > >
> > > > If Recher took an outdoor image in 1884, it would be a stereoview,
published on a bright orange mount. He died in 1887, though strangely I just
became aware of an 1888 image on one of his orange stereoview mounts? So, he may
have been taking photographs after his death?
> > > >
> > > > Strange that he chose Recher to take the photo of Little Sorrel, as
famed Hagerstown/Antietam photographer B.W.T. Phreaner lived right across
Potomac Street from Douglas. Both houses still stand. In fact, a nice old
portrait of Douglas, taken by Phreaner late in life, was just put on a wayside
outside the Hagerstown City Building at West Washington and Summit downtown.
> > > >
> > > > Phreaner was known to compete in the Hagerstown Ag Fair's photo contest
and was probably at his booth when Douglas went looking for a photographer to
snap an image of Stonewall's horse. The story I imagine is that Phreaner came
back to find he had been scooped by Recher and was very upset. Douglas, to ease
his mind, promised that he would sit for a portrait. And that is how history is
made.
> > > >
> > > > Stephen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "jeffcowvplanning"
<jeffcowvplanning@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Howdy everyone.  Looking for a needle in a haystack.
> > > > >
> > > > > In "Stonewall Rode With Me" (grin), Henry K. Douglas related that in
1884 he arrange for Little Sorrel to be brought to Hagerstown to be exhibited in
the Hagerstown Agricultural Fair.  He wrote that there was a photo taken by
Recher of the horse on his front lawn, held by an aged veteran of the Stonewall
Brigade.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anybody know if any copies of this photo still exist, and if so,
where?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > Steve Bockmiller
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Found it..In Robertson's book on Stonewall.. the name of "Little Sorrel" is
Fancy
Mary "bluelady" Hawthorne
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: jeffcowvplanning
   To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:03 AM
   Subject: [TalkAntietam] Trivia Question



   Does anyone know what "Little Sorrel's" real name is? Dont run to google...it
can be found....but does anyone know without looking?

   Hint...it wasn't "Little Sorrel".

   Steve





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that's funny..this answer came before I saw the question! hehe
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   To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:17 AM
   Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Trivia Question



   IIRC it was Fancy

   Yr. Obt. Svt.
   G E "Gerry" Mayers

   To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "jeffcowvplanning" <jeffcowvplanning@...>
   To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:03 AM
   Subject: [TalkAntietam] Trivia Question

   > Does anyone know what "Little Sorrel's" real name is? Dont run to
google...it can be found....but does anyone know without looking?
   >
   > Hint...it wasn't "Little Sorrel".
   >
   > Steve
   >
   >




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Saw this in today's Hagerstown Herald -Mail:

CW Whitehair will sign copies of "Escape Across the Potomac" on Saturday Feb 27,
10 a.m. to noon at Antietam National Battlefield bookstore.
Call 301-432-5124 for info.

Tom Shay - snowbound in Cressona, PA

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Who is CW Whitehair? An odd name for an author!

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "RoteBaron" <RoteBaron@...>
To: "Talk Antietam" <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 4:40 PM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] CW Whitehair book signing


> Saw this in today's Hagerstown Herald -Mail:
>
> CW Whitehair will sign copies of "Escape Across the Potomac" on Saturday Feb
27, 10 a.m. to noon at Antietam National Battlefield bookstore.
> Call 301-432-5124 for info.
>
> Tom Shay - snowbound in Cressona, PA
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Tom,

Thank you for your response.  I do understand exactly what you're saying. 
When I write about history, I have this terrible habit of trying to include
every bit of information I find.  I was looking for other historians
perspectives on what should be included for my topic, that way I could focus it
down.

Thank you all for your responses!

Matt




________________________________
From: Thomas Clemens <clemenst@...>
To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 11:03:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Question on the IX Corps assault

 
Matt,
Your advisor is the final authority on this, but my suggestion is to start with
a very quick overview of the campaign & the leaders, intentions, goals,
political and military situation. Then go a bit more in-depth for the events of
Sept. 17 to set the stage for the assault; ie. stalemate on the Union right,
stymied in the center, success at the Burnside bridge, and NOW the last hope for
complete victory, the Final Assault!
Does that make sense to you?


Dr. Thomas G. Clemens
Professor of History
Hagerstown Community College



>>> Matt Reardon <mreardon1862@ yahoo.com> 2/24/2010 10:41 AM >>>

Hi all,

I'm working on a master's project that deals with the "Final Assault" by the IX
Corps. From those of you who have written about similar topics, where is a good
starting point? Do I start with the weeks leading up to the battle? What type of
background information is needed for the reader to understand the "Final
Assault"?
I ask this because I've already covered so many topics in the paper and I need
to tone it down. From a historian's perspective, what's important and what's
not?

Thanks in advance,

Matt Reardon

____________ _________ _________ __

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As someone who is just getting his feet wet with historical writing I may not be
the best to give you advice, but I'll take a crack.

With the book I am writing about early photography at Antietam, I am finding all
sorts of minutia that I personally find fascinating, but my readers would be
poking their eyes out if I put it all in the main narrative. That said, some of
these tiny details just might be very relevant and interesting to a few people
who read my book.

So I find myself constantly referring to the focus statement of my book to
decide whether something makes the cut into the main narrative or it gets in the
notes. For example, "B.W.T. Phreaner's photograph gallery was at 4 West
Washington Street in Hagerstown". I've got another ten pages about how I figured
that out, but that part is going in the notes. Then if someone wants to go
deeper about B.W.T., they can see my sources.

I think Tom may have been suggesting that helping with the fine-tuning of your
main thesis focus would be the job of your instructor. As someone who is flying
by the seat of his pants, I am simply trying to find everything I can about my
subject, hoping that a focus will emerge.

--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, Matt Reardon <mreardon1862@...> wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> Thank you for your response.  I do understand exactly what you're saying. 
When I write about history, I have this terrible habit of trying to include
every bit of information I find.  I was looking for other historians
perspectives on what should be included for my topic, that way I could focus it
down.
>
> Thank you all for your responses!
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Thomas Clemens <clemenst@...>
> To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 11:03:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Question on the IX Corps assault
>
>  
> Matt,
> Your advisor is the final authority on this, but my suggestion is to start
with a very quick overview of the campaign & the leaders, intentions, goals,
political and military situation. Then go a bit more in-depth for the events of
Sept. 17 to set the stage for the assault; ie. stalemate on the Union right,
stymied in the center, success at the Burnside bridge, and NOW the last hope for
complete victory, the Final Assault!
> Does that make sense to you?
>
>
> Dr. Thomas G. Clemens
> Professor of History
> Hagerstown Community College
>
>
>
> >>> Matt Reardon <mreardon1862@ yahoo.com> 2/24/2010 10:41 AM >>>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm working on a master's project that deals with the "Final Assault" by the
IX Corps. From those of you who have written about similar topics, where is a
good starting point? Do I start with the weeks leading up to the battle? What
type of background information is needed for the reader to understand the "Final
Assault"?
> I ask this because I've already covered so many topics in the paper and I need
to tone it down. From a historian's perspective, what's important and what's
not?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Matt Reardon
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

"Escape Across the Potomac" is a historical work about the escape from Harpers
Ferry of  Cole's Maryland Battalion.  It takes info from 25 various diaries,
letters, and newspaper articles. Included in this project are reports from the
Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies, newspaper articles
covering the escape, additional memoirs, and period photographs of participants
and locations.

The text above and more can be found at:
http://www.whitehairbooks.com/index.php?pr=Escape_Across_The_Potomac

Info on the author can be found at:
http://www.whitehairbooks.com/index.php?pr=About_Us

Tom Shay




From: G E Mayers
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:54 PM
To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] CW Whitehair book signing



Who is CW Whitehair? An odd name for an author!

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "RoteBaron" <RoteBaron@...>
To: "Talk Antietam" <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 4:40 PM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] CW Whitehair book signing

> Saw this in today's Hagerstown Herald -Mail:
>
> CW Whitehair will sign copies of "Escape Across the Potomac" on Saturday Feb
27, 10 a.m. to noon at Antietam National Battlefield bookstore.
> Call 301-432-5124 for info.
>
> Tom Shay - snowbound in Cressona, PA
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>




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Dear Steven,

As someone who is finally approaching the end of a more than decade long
historical fiction manuscript on Sharpsburg, I think maybe I could offer some
points. However, writing historical fiction is markedly different than writing
something about historical photographs etc!

1. Do as much research as you personally feel _you_ need to be comfortable with
the particular/pertinent subjects so you can write about them in a manner
convincing &c to the potential purchaser of the work;
2. When you do your writing, it might be helpful if you could construct it so
the reader discovers the pertinent information as he or she is reading the
pages;
3. Always keep your target audience in mind throughout the process. That said,
who is the target audience for your own book?

Finally, do not be surprised if you find yourself hitting multiple "writing
blocks" along the way. There will be times, as they happened to me, when you
feel you either do not have enough research information on the particular part
of the work or you have a sufficiency of information but not sure how to tell
about it! At such times, there is nothing wrong with simply taking a break for a
while...letting the material percolate in your brain and then you will find,
almost all of a sudden, that the material sorts itself out nice and neatly so
you can put your thoughts in a cohesive manner on "paper".

I hope these ideas will help you also!

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "s_recker" <recker@...>
To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 6:54 PM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Question on the IX Corps assault


As someone who is just getting his feet wet with historical writing I may not be
the best to give you advice, but I'll take a crack.

With the book I am writing about early photography at Antietam, I am finding all
sorts of minutia that I personally find fascinating, but my readers would be
poking their eyes out if I put it all in the main narrative. That said, some of
these tiny details just might be very relevant and interesting to a few people
who read my book.

So I find myself constantly referring to the focus statement of my book to
decide whether something makes the cut into the main narrative or it gets in the
notes. For example, "B.W.T. Phreaner's photograph gallery was at 4 West
Washington Street in Hagerstown". I've got another ten pages about how I figured
that out, but that part is going in the notes. Then if someone wants to go
deeper about B.W.T., they can see my sources.

I think Tom may have been suggesting that helping with the fine-tuning of your
main thesis focus would be the job of your instructor. As someone who is flying
by the seat of his pants, I am simply trying to find everything I can about my
subject, hoping that a focus will emerge.

<snip>

Dear Tom,

Okay...but who is the author of the work in question? I peeked at the particular
website but it still does not reveal the actual identity of the author.

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "RoteBaron" <RoteBaron@...>
To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] CW Whitehair book signing


> "Escape Across the Potomac" is a historical work about the escape from Harpers
Ferry of  Cole's Maryland Battalion.  It takes info from 25 various diaries,
letters, and newspaper articles. Included in this project are reports from the
Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies, newspaper articles
covering the escape, additional memoirs, and period photographs of participants
and locations.
>
> The text above and more can be found at:
> http://www.whitehairbooks.com/index.php?pr=Escape_Across_The_Potomac
>
> Info on the author can be found at:
> http://www.whitehairbooks.com/index.php?pr=About_Us
>
> Tom Shay
>
>
>
>
> From: G E Mayers
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:54 PM
> To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] CW Whitehair book signing
>
>
>
> Who is CW Whitehair? An odd name for an author!
>
> Yr. Obt. Svt.
> G E "Gerry" Mayers
>
> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "RoteBaron" <RoteBaron@...>
> To: "Talk Antietam" <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 4:40 PM
> Subject: [TalkAntietam] CW Whitehair book signing
>
>> Saw this in today's Hagerstown Herald -Mail:
>>
>> CW Whitehair will sign copies of "Escape Across the Potomac" on Saturday Feb
27, 10 a.m. to noon at Antietam National Battlefield bookstore.
>> Call 301-432-5124 for info.
>>
>> Tom Shay - snowbound in Cressona, PA
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

I never heard of him until I saw the listing in today's paper.
I was only passing along the book-signing info.

Tom Shay


From: G E Mayers
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:37 PM
To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] CW Whitehair book signing



Dear Tom,

Okay...but who is the author of the work in question? I peeked at the particular
website but it still does not reveal the actual identity of the author.

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "RoteBaron" <RoteBaron@...>
To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] CW Whitehair book signing

> "Escape Across the Potomac" is a historical work about the escape from Harpers
Ferry of Cole's Maryland Battalion. It takes info from 25 various diaries,
letters, and newspaper articles. Included in this project are reports from the
Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies, newspaper articles
covering the escape, additional memoirs, and period photographs of participants
and locations.
>
> The text above and more can be found at:
> http://www.whitehairbooks.com/index.php?pr=Escape_Across_The_Potomac
>
> Info on the author can be found at:
> http://www.whitehairbooks.com/index.php?pr=About_Us
>
> Tom Shay
>
>
>
>
> From: G E Mayers
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:54 PM
> To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] CW Whitehair book signing
>
>
>
> Who is CW Whitehair? An odd name for an author!
>
> Yr. Obt. Svt.
> G E "Gerry" Mayers
>
>
>




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Those interested in walking the ground of the Final Attack, put this on your
calendar...

Sunday, April 25th, NPS Battlefield Hike - The Final Attack
This hike will be a study of the action after Federal forces carried the Lower
Bridge and the Confederate defense below Sharpsburg.
Meet at Tour Stop 9 parking lot at 1:30 p.m. This hike will last approximately
two hours.

Tom Shay






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I'm researching the Antietam Iron Works and am trying to find out what year the
dam broke.

Also, if there are any other great sources about what happened there relative to
the CW and Antietam I'd love to hear about it. Thanks.

Stephen

Can someone please point me to Belinda Springs on a map? Thanks.

Maybe these words can help:

Snavely farm (Belinda Springs)

Near Snavely's Ford below the Burnside Bridge on the Antietam is the old
Snavely farm which existed earlier as Belinda Springs farm, an early-
19th-century resort. It is located at the end of a long private lane.
The buildings are situated at the base of a steep bluff and face east or
toward the creek. What remains of the Belinda Springs complex is a twostory
log dwelling and a one-and-one-half-story stone structure with frame
addition giving it an upper story and attaching it to the log section, several
frame outbuildings, and the ruins of a large frame bank barn set on high stone
foundations. A small stone structure housing one of the springs also remains.
Before the war, Belinda Springs was a regionally well-known health spa.
There was a large complex of buildings where many visitors came to stay and
take the cure. In 1832, a cholera epidemic broke out among Irish workers
on the C & O Canal and Belinda Springs as a resort was closed for good.
During the Battle of Antietam, the Snavely family owned Belinda Springs,
and it was near Snavely's Ford where Rodman's command crossed the Antietam
to outflank the impasse at the Burnside Bridge. Belinda Springs has already
been submitted to the National Register as a separate nomination.

a. Farmhouse

The log structure is a two-story, three-bay dwelling set on fieldstone
foundations. It is constructed of large hewn-squared logs, many of which
are greater than one foot in width. The exterior wall surface was
apparently sheathed with rough cast applied over split lath. Over this
had been placed wooden weatherboarding. More recently, brick composition
siding had sheathed the walls. A shed roof porch extends along the
south gable wall. An enclosed walkway of frame construction along the
east elevation links it to the stone structure. At present, the roof of
the log structure is sheathed with sheet metal. Probably the most
unusual feature of the log structure is an interior partition of wattle
and daub.

b. Stone house

Linked by the walkway to this log building is a one-and-one-half-story
stone structure constructed of roughly coursed local limestone. A
frame one-story addition has raised the height of this stone building.
A massive stone chimney is located in the east gable end.

c. The Belinda Springs Hotel

Extending to the north of the log building are the remains of foundations
of a large extension. This was once a high two-story building of log
construction sheathed with weatherboarding. This structure, torn down
earlier in this century, was known as the Belinda Springs Hotel.


d. Spring

East of the existing structures is a spring over which is a small stone
building and remnants of an attached stone wall. This spring supposedly
supplied drinking water for the complex. Nearby were other springs deemed
medicinal with high mineral content.

Link:

http://pdfhost.focus.nps.gov/docs/NRHP/Text/66000038.pdf

Probably now on private property?

Larry

--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "s_recker" <recker@...> wrote:
>
> Can someone please point me to Belinda Springs on a map? Thanks.
>

This is excellent. many thanks!

Stephen

--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "eighth_conn_inf" <eighth_conn_inf@...>
wrote:
>
> Maybe these words can help:
>
> Snavely farm (Belinda Springs)
>
> Near Snavely's Ford below the Burnside Bridge on the Antietam is the old
> Snavely farm which existed earlier as Belinda Springs farm, an early-
> 19th-century resort. It is located at the end of a long private lane.
> The buildings are situated at the base of a steep bluff and face east or
> toward the creek. What remains of the Belinda Springs complex is a twostory
> log dwelling and a one-and-one-half-story stone structure with frame
> addition giving it an upper story and attaching it to the log section, several
> frame outbuildings, and the ruins of a large frame bank barn set on high stone
> foundations. A small stone structure housing one of the springs also remains.
> Before the war, Belinda Springs was a regionally well-known health spa.
> There was a large complex of buildings where many visitors came to stay and
> take the cure. In 1832, a cholera epidemic broke out among Irish workers
> on the C & O Canal and Belinda Springs as a resort was closed for good.
> During the Battle of Antietam, the Snavely family owned Belinda Springs,
> and it was near Snavely's Ford where Rodman's command crossed the Antietam
> to outflank the impasse at the Burnside Bridge. Belinda Springs has already
> been submitted to the National Register as a separate nomination.
>
> a. Farmhouse
>
> The log structure is a two-story, three-bay dwelling set on fieldstone
> foundations. It is constructed of large hewn-squared logs, many of which
> are greater than one foot in width. The exterior wall surface was
> apparently sheathed with rough cast applied over split lath. Over this
> had been placed wooden weatherboarding. More recently, brick composition
> siding had sheathed the walls. A shed roof porch extends along the
> south gable wall. An enclosed walkway of frame construction along the
> east elevation links it to the stone structure. At present, the roof of
> the log structure is sheathed with sheet metal. Probably the most
> unusual feature of the log structure is an interior partition of wattle
> and daub.
>
> b. Stone house
>
> Linked by the walkway to this log building is a one-and-one-half-story
> stone structure constructed of roughly coursed local limestone. A
> frame one-story addition has raised the height of this stone building.
> A massive stone chimney is located in the east gable end.
>
> c. The Belinda Springs Hotel
>
> Extending to the north of the log building are the remains of foundations
> of a large extension. This was once a high two-story building of log
> construction sheathed with weatherboarding. This structure, torn down
> earlier in this century, was known as the Belinda Springs Hotel.
>
>
> d. Spring
>
> East of the existing structures is a spring over which is a small stone
> building and remnants of an attached stone wall. This spring supposedly
> supplied drinking water for the complex. Nearby were other springs deemed
> medicinal with high mineral content.
>
> Link:
>
> http://pdfhost.focus.nps.gov/docs/NRHP/Text/66000038.pdf
>
> Probably now on private property?
>
> Larry
>
> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "s_recker" <recker@> wrote:
> >
> > Can someone please point me to Belinda Springs on a map? Thanks.
> >
>

Where is it? Thanks.

Stephen

Dear Larry,

Thanks for the info; the Register application for the Sharpsburg village is also
very interesting. I shall have to review that at more length.

Any photos available of the Snavely farm?

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "eighth_conn_inf" <eighth_conn_inf@...>
To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:19 AM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Belinda Springs


> Maybe these words can help:
>
> Snavely farm (Belinda Springs)
>
> Near Snavely's Ford below the Burnside Bridge on the Antietam is the old
> Snavely farm which existed earlier as Belinda Springs farm, an early-
> 19th-century resort. It is located at the end of a long private lane.
> The buildings are situated at the base of a steep bluff and face east or
> toward the creek. What remains of the Belinda Springs complex is a twostory
> log dwelling and a one-and-one-half-story stone structure with frame
> addition giving it an upper story and attaching it to the log section, several
> frame outbuildings, and the ruins of a large frame bank barn set on high stone
> foundations. A small stone structure housing one of the springs also remains.
> Before the war, Belinda Springs was a regionally well-known health spa.
> There was a large complex of buildings where many visitors came to stay and
> take the cure. In 1832, a cholera epidemic broke out among Irish workers
> on the C & O Canal and Belinda Springs as a resort was closed for good.
> During the Battle of Antietam, the Snavely family owned Belinda Springs,
> and it was near Snavely's Ford where Rodman's command crossed the Antietam
> to outflank the impasse at the Burnside Bridge. Belinda Springs has already
> been submitted to the National Register as a separate nomination.
>
> a. Farmhouse
>
> The log structure is a two-story, three-bay dwelling set on fieldstone
> foundations. It is constructed of large hewn-squared logs, many of which
> are greater than one foot in width. The exterior wall surface was
> apparently sheathed with rough cast applied over split lath. Over this
> had been placed wooden weatherboarding. More recently, brick composition
> siding had sheathed the walls. A shed roof porch extends along the
> south gable wall. An enclosed walkway of frame construction along the
> east elevation links it to the stone structure. At present, the roof of
> the log structure is sheathed with sheet metal. Probably the most
> unusual feature of the log structure is an interior partition of wattle
> and daub.
>
> b. Stone house
>
> Linked by the walkway to this log building is a one-and-one-half-story
> stone structure constructed of roughly coursed local limestone. A
> frame one-story addition has raised the height of this stone building.
> A massive stone chimney is located in the east gable end.
>
> c. The Belinda Springs Hotel
>
> Extending to the north of the log building are the remains of foundations
> of a large extension. This was once a high two-story building of log
> construction sheathed with weatherboarding. This structure, torn down
> earlier in this century, was known as the Belinda Springs Hotel.
>
>
> d. Spring
>
> East of the existing structures is a spring over which is a small stone
> building and remnants of an attached stone wall. This spring supposedly
> supplied drinking water for the complex. Nearby were other springs deemed
> medicinal with high mineral content.
>
> Link:
>
> http://pdfhost.focus.nps.gov/docs/NRHP/Text/66000038.pdf
>
> Probably now on private property?
>
> Larry
>
> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "s_recker" <recker@...> wrote:
>>
>> Can someone please point me to Belinda Springs on a map? Thanks.
>>
>
>
>

Steve,

Would that not also be the same as the dam for the old Antietam Iron Works?

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "s_recker" <recker@...>
To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:17 PM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Coffer Dam on the Antietam Creek


> Where is it? Thanks.
>
> Stephen
>
>

No, the AIW dam is huge, but the Coffer Dam, or cofferdam (?) is much smaller.
Good guess, though.

Stephen


--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> Would that not also be the same as the dam for the old Antietam Iron Works?
>
> Yr. Obt. Svt.
> G E "Gerry" Mayers
>
> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "s_recker" <recker@...>
> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:17 PM
> Subject: [TalkAntietam] Coffer Dam on the Antietam Creek
>
>
> > Where is it? Thanks.
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
>

GM
A quick search shows a picture of the resort on page 21 of "Images of America,
Washington County," by Rubin, ISBN 978-0738514185. You may see it on Amazon on
"look inside."

LF

--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Larry,
>
> Thanks for the info; the Register application for the Sharpsburg village is
also very interesting. I shall have to review that at more length.
>
> Any photos available of the Snavely farm?
>
> Yr. Obt. Svt.
> G E "Gerry" Mayers
>
> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "eighth_conn_inf" <eighth_conn_inf@...>
> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:19 AM
> Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Belinda Springs
>
>
> > Maybe these words can help:
> >
> > Snavely farm (Belinda Springs)
> >
> > Near Snavely's Ford below the Burnside Bridge on the Antietam is the old
> > Snavely farm which existed earlier as Belinda Springs farm, an early-
> > 19th-century resort. It is located at the end of a long private lane.
> > The buildings are situated at the base of a steep bluff and face east or
> > toward the creek. What remains of the Belinda Springs complex is a twostory
> > log dwelling and a one-and-one-half-story stone structure with frame
> > addition giving it an upper story and attaching it to the log section,
several
> > frame outbuildings, and the ruins of a large frame bank barn set on high
stone
> > foundations. A small stone structure housing one of the springs also
remains.
> > Before the war, Belinda Springs was a regionally well-known health spa.
> > There was a large complex of buildings where many visitors came to stay and
> > take the cure. In 1832, a cholera epidemic broke out among Irish workers
> > on the C & O Canal and Belinda Springs as a resort was closed for good.
> > During the Battle of Antietam, the Snavely family owned Belinda Springs,
> > and it was near Snavely's Ford where Rodman's command crossed the Antietam
> > to outflank the impasse at the Burnside Bridge. Belinda Springs has already
> > been submitted to the National Register as a separate nomination.
> >
> > a. Farmhouse
> >
> > The log structure is a two-story, three-bay dwelling set on fieldstone
> > foundations. It is constructed of large hewn-squared logs, many of which
> > are greater than one foot in width. The exterior wall surface was
> > apparently sheathed with rough cast applied over split lath. Over this
> > had been placed wooden weatherboarding. More recently, brick composition
> > siding had sheathed the walls. A shed roof porch extends along the
> > south gable wall. An enclosed walkway of frame construction along the
> > east elevation links it to the stone structure. At present, the roof of
> > the log structure is sheathed with sheet metal. Probably the most
> > unusual feature of the log structure is an interior partition of wattle
> > and daub.
> >
> > b. Stone house
> >
> > Linked by the walkway to this log building is a one-and-one-half-story
> > stone structure constructed of roughly coursed local limestone. A
> > frame one-story addition has raised the height of this stone building.
> > A massive stone chimney is located in the east gable end.
> >
> > c. The Belinda Springs Hotel
> >
> > Extending to the north of the log building are the remains of foundations
> > of a large extension. This was once a high two-story building of log
> > construction sheathed with weatherboarding. This structure, torn down
> > earlier in this century, was known as the Belinda Springs Hotel.
> >
> >
> > d. Spring
> >
> > East of the existing structures is a spring over which is a small stone
> > building and remnants of an attached stone wall. This spring supposedly
> > supplied drinking water for the complex. Nearby were other springs deemed
> > medicinal with high mineral content.
> >
> > Link:
> >
> > http://pdfhost.focus.nps.gov/docs/NRHP/Text/66000038.pdf
> >
> > Probably now on private property?
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "s_recker" <recker@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Can someone please point me to Belinda Springs on a map? Thanks.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

Thanks!

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "eighth_conn_inf" <eighth_conn_inf@...>
To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 2:27 PM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Belinda Springs


> GM
> A quick search shows a picture of the resort on page 21 of "Images of America,
Washington County," by Rubin, ISBN 978-0738514185. You may see it on Amazon on
"look inside."
>
> LF
>
> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Larry,
>>
>> Thanks for the info; the Register application for the Sharpsburg village is
also very interesting. I shall have to review that at more length.
>>
>> Any photos available of the Snavely farm?
>>
>> Yr. Obt. Svt.
>> G E "Gerry" Mayers
>>
>> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "eighth_conn_inf" <eighth_conn_inf@...>
>> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:19 AM
>> Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Belinda Springs
>>
>>
>> > Maybe these words can help:
>> >
>> > Snavely farm (Belinda Springs)
>> >
>> > Near Snavely's Ford below the Burnside Bridge on the Antietam is the old
>> > Snavely farm which existed earlier as Belinda Springs farm, an early-
>> > 19th-century resort. It is located at the end of a long private lane.
>> > The buildings are situated at the base of a steep bluff and face east or
>> > toward the creek. What remains of the Belinda Springs complex is a twostory
>> > log dwelling and a one-and-one-half-story stone structure with frame
>> > addition giving it an upper story and attaching it to the log section,
several
>> > frame outbuildings, and the ruins of a large frame bank barn set on high
stone
>> > foundations. A small stone structure housing one of the springs also
remains.
>> > Before the war, Belinda Springs was a regionally well-known health spa.
>> > There was a large complex of buildings where many visitors came to stay and
>> > take the cure. In 1832, a cholera epidemic broke out among Irish workers
>> > on the C & O Canal and Belinda Springs as a resort was closed for good.
>> > During the Battle of Antietam, the Snavely family owned Belinda Springs,
>> > and it was near Snavely's Ford where Rodman's command crossed the Antietam
>> > to outflank the impasse at the Burnside Bridge. Belinda Springs has already
>> > been submitted to the National Register as a separate nomination.
>> >
>> > a. Farmhouse
>> >
>> > The log structure is a two-story, three-bay dwelling set on fieldstone
>> > foundations. It is constructed of large hewn-squared logs, many of which
>> > are greater than one foot in width. The exterior wall surface was
>> > apparently sheathed with rough cast applied over split lath. Over this
>> > had been placed wooden weatherboarding. More recently, brick composition
>> > siding had sheathed the walls. A shed roof porch extends along the
>> > south gable wall. An enclosed walkway of frame construction along the
>> > east elevation links it to the stone structure. At present, the roof of
>> > the log structure is sheathed with sheet metal. Probably the most
>> > unusual feature of the log structure is an interior partition of wattle
>> > and daub.
>> >
>> > b. Stone house
>> >
>> > Linked by the walkway to this log building is a one-and-one-half-story
>> > stone structure constructed of roughly coursed local limestone. A
>> > frame one-story addition has raised the height of this stone building.
>> > A massive stone chimney is located in the east gable end.
>> >
>> > c. The Belinda Springs Hotel
>> >
>> > Extending to the north of the log building are the remains of foundations
>> > of a large extension. This was once a high two-story building of log
>> > construction sheathed with weatherboarding. This structure, torn down
>> > earlier in this century, was known as the Belinda Springs Hotel.
>> >
>> >
>> > d. Spring
>> >
>> > East of the existing structures is a spring over which is a small stone
>> > building and remnants of an attached stone wall. This spring supposedly
>> > supplied drinking water for the complex. Nearby were other springs deemed
>> > medicinal with high mineral content.
>> >
>> > Link:
>> >
>> > http://pdfhost.focus.nps.gov/docs/NRHP/Text/66000038.pdf
>> >
>> > Probably now on private property?
>> >
>> > Larry
>> >
>> > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "s_recker" <recker@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Can someone please point me to Belinda Springs on a map? Thanks.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>

GM

And if you use that link and change the last digits just before .pdf, you can
see others such as the C&O Canal:

http://pdfhost.focus.nps.gov/docs/NRHP/Text/66000036.pdf

and Manassas, and Ford's Theater, and the Washington Monument, etc.
Unfortunately they all appear to be from the 1980's but there still is lots of
interesting info.

LF

--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "eighth_conn_inf" <eighth_conn_inf@...>
wrote:
>
> GM
> A quick search shows a picture of the resort on page 21 of "Images of America,
Washington County," by Rubin, ISBN 978-0738514185. You may see it on Amazon on
"look inside."
>
> LF
>
> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Larry,
> >
> > Thanks for the info; the Register application for the Sharpsburg village is
also very interesting. I shall have to review that at more length.
> >
> > Any photos available of the Snavely farm?
> >
> > Yr. Obt. Svt.
> > G E "Gerry" Mayers

Steve,

I did read somewhere about the Creek having a coffer dam at one point which was
subsequently taken out. Do not recall if it was before the battle or some time
afterwards.

Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers

To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "s_recker" <recker@...>
To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 2:05 PM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Coffer Dam on the Antietam Creek


> No, the AIW dam is huge, but the Coffer Dam, or cofferdam (?) is much smaller.
Good guess, though.
>
> Stephen
>
>
> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...> wrote:
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> Would that not also be the same as the dam for the old Antietam Iron Works?
>>
>> Yr. Obt. Svt.
>> G E "Gerry" Mayers
>>
>> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "s_recker" <recker@...>
>> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:17 PM
>> Subject: [TalkAntietam] Coffer Dam on the Antietam Creek
>>
>>
>> > Where is it? Thanks.
>> >
>> > Stephen
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>

The picture I have is ca. 1890. If you think of the cite please let me know.
Thanks.

Stephen

--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> I did read somewhere about the Creek having a coffer dam at one point which
was subsequently taken out. Do not recall if it was before the battle or some
time afterwards.
>
> Yr. Obt. Svt.
> G E "Gerry" Mayers
>
> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "s_recker" <recker@...>
> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 2:05 PM
> Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Coffer Dam on the Antietam Creek
>
>
> > No, the AIW dam is huge, but the Coffer Dam, or cofferdam (?) is much
smaller. Good guess, though.
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
> > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Steve,
> >>
> >> Would that not also be the same as the dam for the old Antietam Iron Works?
> >>
> >> Yr. Obt. Svt.
> >> G E "Gerry" Mayers
> >>
> >> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one's
mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a passport to any
foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "s_recker" <recker@>
> >> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:17 PM
> >> Subject: [TalkAntietam] Coffer Dam on the Antietam Creek
> >>
> >>
> >> > Where is it? Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > Stephen
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>