I just read that Tom Clemens 624 page book will be out this summer, congratulations! It is now listed on Amazon.com. Looks like I will have to replace my two...
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Thomas Clemens
eacarman1862
Jan 1, 2010 6:39 pm
It will be a while, perhaps a year or more. Still working out kinks in Vol. I. Thanks for the kind words. ... I just read that Tom Clemens 624 page book will...
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eighth_conn_inf
Jan 2, 2010 1:40 am
Matt, You are fortunate to have a relative in that unit. Hopefully you have some of his letters or other of his items?...
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Matt Reardon
mreardon1862
Jan 2, 2010 4:11 am
Larry,  I have nothing. I've been trying to find a picture of him for quite some time now. So far no luck. I did find him mentioned in one letter written...
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G E Mayers
njrebel1999
Jan 2, 2010 7:41 pm
Gang, I have noticed that Carman, in his Antietam OOB at the end of the battle manuscript found on this link ...
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Dean Essig
dean_essig
Jan 2, 2010 7:44 pm
Gerry. That's not actually Carmen... there was a computer game (forget the name) that used some Carmen text and appended the game OOB with the game's...
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Dean Essig
dean_essig
Jan 2, 2010 7:50 pm
Gerry, The site mentions the game on the first page as the source of the text. "The latest Civil War computer game from Firaxis is Sid Meier's "Antietam";. Dean...
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G E Mayers
njrebel1999
Jan 2, 2010 8:02 pm
Dean, Thanks! However, I think our resident Carman experts might be able to weigh in on it also! Yr. Obt. Svt. G E "Gerry" Mayers To Be A Virginian, either by...
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G E Mayers
njrebel1999
Jan 2, 2010 8:09 pm
Dean, Actually the OOB is in itself an error. Most historians make the mistake of back dating the OOB for the ANVa to September; as I am sure you well know,...
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Dean Essig
dean_essig
Jan 2, 2010 8:13 pm
... There is a lot of funny-business going on in there, certainly _not_ up to Gen. Carmen's standards ! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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G E Mayers
njrebel1999
Jan 2, 2010 8:21 pm
I would suggest you read Harsh's Taken at the Flood for ANVa strengths and also his companion volume Sounding the Shallows, before commenting on any funny...
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eighth_conn_inf
Jan 2, 2010 8:27 pm
Jake Pierro has many footnotes in his Appendix B of his Carman book for the OOB of the ANV which prove helpful. Likely Tom Clemens will also delve into the OOB...
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Dean Essig
dean_essig
Jan 2, 2010 8:29 pm
... Gerry, I have and those OOBs are NOT Carmen's, they are Sid Miers'. Feel free to not take my word for it. Good day, sir. Dean [Non-text portions of this...
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G E Mayers
njrebel1999
Jan 2, 2010 8:33 pm
Dear Dean, That very well might be true. However, Harsh did develop an OOB for ANVa which is probably more accurate than anything else out there. Yr. Obt. Svt....
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Dean Essig
dean_essig
Jan 2, 2010 8:38 pm
... No argument with Harsh, my comments have only been directed at the website's OOB. Harsh's work is the gold standard, only beat by Carmen himself. Unless...
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G E Mayers
njrebel1999
Jan 2, 2010 8:38 pm
Larry, Be as that may, I am hoping Tom Clemens will comment on the original post, since he is perhaps -- next to Jake Pierro -- the one most familiar with...
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G E Mayers
njrebel1999
Jan 2, 2010 8:40 pm
Dear Dean, Again, be as that may, I answered Larry's post about much the same thoughts. I would like much to hear what Tom "Carman" Clemens has to say about...
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G E Mayers
njrebel1999
Jan 2, 2010 8:41 pm
Dean, Something else you might find interesting... if you look at the OOB list given at the back of the Murfin book, I think you will find it pretty much...
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Dean Essig
dean_essig
Jan 2, 2010 8:46 pm
... Not surprising, popular book available for a game designer to copy down. Compare it to the Carmen OOB in Pierro's book, that should convince you. [Non-text...
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Dave
akula77
Jan 2, 2010 8:51 pm
Gerry, having played this game years ago, the developers probably resorted to labeling troops "crack" or "green" based on their historical performance during...
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G E Mayers
njrebel1999
Jan 2, 2010 9:02 pm
I do not have Pierro's book here. If someone has a way (maybe a project for you, Brian???) to compare the two side by side, that would be an interesting...
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G E Mayers
njrebel1999
Jan 2, 2010 9:08 pm
Dear Dave, "Green" troops is an understandable quantification, since these would largely be the nine month and three year units hurriedly rushed to the AoP to...
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Dave
akula77
Jan 2, 2010 9:30 pm
Gerry, I don't disagree. But, for the folks playing the game, they would have a much better chance of having heard of the Iron Brigade rather than the 17 MI...
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Thomas Clemens
eacarman1862
Jan 3, 2010 1:05 am
Joining this late, have been reading letters to Carman from the NYPL all afternoon. My favorite quote so far today is Heysinger called Capt. Means of the...
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Dean Essig
dean_essig
Jan 3, 2010 1:21 am
... By trail and error (using the Supplemental OR) I came to the same conclusion. Once cut down to the units available and less the ones being used as provost,...
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eighth_conn_inf
Jan 3, 2010 1:43 am
Trying to find numbers of troopers in their saddles isn't easy so I decided to discount the numbers based on numbers mentioned during the campaign. It has...
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Harry Smeltzer
hjs212002
Jan 3, 2010 4:23 am
Last installment of my Springfield trip: http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2010/01/02/springfield-il-part-vi-%e2%80%93-lincoln-tomb-and-miscellaneous-statuary/...
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joseph_pierro
Jan 7, 2010 3:16 pm
Lol! This question seems to come up again every six months or so. Those "color" designmations, as have been explained by others here, were the addition of the...
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joseph_pierro
Jan 7, 2010 3:30 pm
I just want to take the belated opportunity to congratulate Tom Clemens. I learned only yesterday that the first volume of HIS edition of the Carman manuscript...
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G E Mayers
njrebel1999
Jan 7, 2010 3:44 pm
Dear Jake, As someone who knows Tom Clemens and is familiar with his doctoral thesis (which is probably the basis for his book, that is, Volume 1), I can tell...
