I'm going on what Jim said. I may have misremembered, or perhaps they're mentioned yet quickly glossed over. ... From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com...
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Jeff Beckner (PWC Mag...
jbeckner@...
Jul 12, 2005 1:42 pm
I don't recall seeing your review. Did you post it? For the sixth or so time, I'm talking about believing what I've heard about it from Jim and Steve. That's...
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Jeff Beckner (PWC Mag...
jbeckner@...
Jul 12, 2005 1:43 pm
I think we're getting too caught up here in "good" and "bad" reviews. I'm sure, as a BOOK, it's splendid. I'm skeptical that a lot of it holds water, however,...
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Jeff Beckner (PWC Mag...
jbeckner@...
Jul 12, 2005 1:44 pm
OK, let's say Mac was great getting off the ball in MD. What does Rafuse say about how he fought the actual battle? Here's the litmus test.... ... From:...
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Harry Smeltzer
hjs212002
Jul 12, 2005 1:51 pm
Don't you already know what he said? I mean, you've already stated with absolute certainty that the book is apologist nonsense. As apologist nonsense then...
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Thomas Clemens
eacarman1862
Jul 12, 2005 1:57 pm
So read it and find out. This a litmus test too. Tom C. Thomas G. Clemens D.A. Professor of History Hagerstown Community College ... I think we're getting too...
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Jeff Beckner (PWC Mag...
jbeckner@...
Jul 12, 2005 2:02 pm
World's thinnest books: McClellan champions who still believe that 191 mattered. ... From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] ...
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Jeff Beckner (PWC Mag...
jbeckner@...
Jul 12, 2005 2:17 pm
I said I'm very skeptical. Now chill, dude. ... From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Smeltzer Sent:...
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Harry Smeltzer
hjs212002
Jul 12, 2005 2:50 pm
Jim said the K-N act was not mentioned. Tom corrected him by saying that it was mentioned. Jim, IIRC, said that the Harrison's Landing letter was mentioned. ...
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Harry Smeltzer
hjs212002
Jul 12, 2005 2:50 pm
Yes, that had a lot to do with it. In fact, Lee never anticipated that the garrison would hold out (the untenable nature of the place was well known to both...
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Jeff Beckner (PWC Mag...
jbeckner@...
Jul 12, 2005 2:53 pm
OK....are they dealt with in any detail? One of Jim's criticisms (he READ the book, you know) was that Rafuse didn't raise some questions on some topics that...
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Harry Smeltzer
hjs212002
Jul 12, 2005 2:56 pm
Or "Great Cardinals moments of the 2004 World Series". And you can't say anything about the Pirates that I haven't already heard (or said). Harry ... From:...
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Jeff Beckner (PWC Mag...
jbeckner@...
Jul 12, 2005 2:57 pm
What World Series? ... From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Smeltzer Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:06...
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Harry Smeltzer
hjs212002
Jul 12, 2005 3:06 pm
Yes, that had a lot to do with it. In fact, Lee never anticipated that the garrison would hold out (the untenable nature of the place was well known to both...
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Harry Smeltzer
hjs212002
Jul 12, 2005 3:17 pm
Sorry about the double post. ... From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Smeltzer Sent: Tuesday, July 12,...
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Harry Smeltzer
hjs212002
Jul 12, 2005 3:54 pm
I know he read the book. Heck, I even remember what he SAID about it! He indicated that the HL letter was not expounded on in the detail he would have...
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Jeff Beckner (PWC Mag...
jbeckner@...
Jul 12, 2005 4:06 pm
No, 35 words or so would have covered it. "He writes much better than he fights...." ... From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com...
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Harry Smeltzer
hjs212002
Jul 12, 2005 4:08 pm
So I'm assuming, since you say the letter was not covered in enough detail, that Rafuse spent less than 35 words on it. Is that correct? Harry ... From:...
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Jeff Beckner (PWC Mag...
jbeckner@...
Jul 12, 2005 4:11 pm
Ask Jim. After all, he READ the book. ... From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Smeltzer Sent: Tuesday,...
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Harry Smeltzer
hjs212002
Jul 12, 2005 4:15 pm
Yes, but he did not put up the magic 35 word number. And why can't I ask Tom or Steve? Harry ... From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com...
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Jeff Beckner (PWC Mag...
jbeckner@...
Jul 12, 2005 4:17 pm
Ask as ye see fit, but Jim was the one who made the original point. Now....didn't I tell you to chill once already? CHILL, dood! ... From:...
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Stephen Recker
virtualgetty...
Jul 12, 2005 4:23 pm
You can't ask Steve because he is heading down to the battlefield to walk around. -sjr...
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Harry Smeltzer
hjs212002
Jul 12, 2005 4:25 pm
You know, I don't think I've ever seen Jim post on this group, though I could be wrong. I was chillin', until you made the comment "we're all very proud of...
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Harry Smeltzer
hjs212002
Jul 12, 2005 4:26 pm
Get a real job. ... From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Recker Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:23 AM ...
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Thomas Clemens
eacarman1862
Jul 12, 2005 7:35 pm
I read the book too, and thought the mention of the K-N Act was tangental to the theme. Rafuse was discussing McClellan's shift from a tradtional Whig to a...
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Jeff Beckner (PWC Mag...
jbeckner@...
Jul 12, 2005 7:38 pm
OK. Thanks. ... From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Clemens Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:35 PM To:...
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richard@...
richcro1862
Jul 13, 2005 1:26 am
I'm off for Merry Land tomorrow (with a stop at Fredericksburg for some finishing touches on the research) and just wanted to remind you that I will be signing...
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richard@...
richcro1862
Jul 18, 2005 1:48 am
Tom -- Great meeting you! At last -- a face to put to the name. Richard ... From: "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@...> To:...
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Thomas Clemens
eacarman1862
Jul 18, 2005 2:10 pm
And it was a pleasure to meet you too! Thomas G. Clemens D.A. Professor of History Hagerstown Community College...
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Mary A. Stevanus
antietam111
Jul 26, 2005 5:44 pm
The Sharpsburg Historical Society is raffling one of Mort Kunstler's best-known prints relating to the Battle of Antietam, the "Sharpsburg War Council." The...
