Hi Justin, This might be an interesting question. Could you clarify it a little? For what, exactly, is it that Burnside might have been at fault? What ...
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NJ Rebel
gerry1952@...
Mar 29, 2004 1:07 am
NO! ... From: "justin_heinzen10" <justin_heinzen10@...> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:34 PM Subject:...
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justin_heinzen10
justin_heinz...
Mar 29, 2004 5:39 am
mcclellan wrote: "..but i think his [burnside] weak mind was turned;that he was confused in action; and that subsequently he really did not know what had...
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richard@...
richcro1862
Mar 29, 2004 1:31 pm
Alright -- let's put a stop to this. McClallan was at fault at Antietam. For failure to respond quickly to 191 and for failure to follow up Richardson39;s...
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tlivesey@...
westwood_ent...
Mar 29, 2004 3:10 pm
Hmmm...seems to me that before one tries to assign 'fault39;, one must identify failure. Antietam was a huge victory for the North, and a serious blow to the...
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richard@...
richcro1862
Mar 29, 2004 3:17 pm
ooooooooohhhhhhhh -- TR -- GOOD POINT! I've never been a big fan a fault-finding myself, especailly if little or nothing can be learned from it. ... From:...
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Brian Downey
antietam1862
Mar 29, 2004 3:54 pm
For the sake of discussion, I think it's fair to consider the original poster's question in this way (assumption mine): If we assume that _more_ could have...
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rchurch@...
buckshot_21102
Mar 29, 2004 4:37 pm
Greetings Justin and all, The idea of fault is an interesting one. It depends in large degree on how broad a brush you use to paint it. It seems to me that...
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justin_heinzen10
justin_heinz...
Mar 29, 2004 6:52 pm
to play a devils advocate...what about the men he did not use to reinforce burnside especially porters corps???...
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Ollie
oliverg25
Mar 29, 2004 10:02 pm
... From: justin_heinzen10 To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 12:37 AM Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: was burnside at fault for...
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T.R. Livesey
westwood_ent...
Mar 30, 2004 4:04 am
About the only thing _more_ that the Federals could have accomplished would have been the destruction of the Confederate army...and that was an unlikely ...
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david lutton
dunkerch@...
Mar 31, 2004 12:29 am
True, Antietam was a huge Political victory for the north and can I believe be argued to be the major turning point of the war. However from a military...
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T.R. Livesey
westwood_ent...
Mar 31, 2004 3:30 am
I fully agree that the Federal army could have accomplished more, that a more decisive victory might have been won...this is true of just about any battle....
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richard@...
richcro1862
Mar 31, 2004 3:41 am
I think that at the moment Mc was handed 191, it was a "reasonable expectation" that he might destroy the ANV in detail. Longstreet then Jackson. Or at least...
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T.R. Livesey
westwood_ent...
Mar 31, 2004 6:28 am
And exactly how would SO191 allow Mac to 'destroy39; the ANV? By the time Mac got the order, it was already out of date; the operation should have wrapped up...
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richard@...
richcro1862
Mar 31, 2004 3:09 pm
Good comments TR! It's good to see someone refrain from the McClellan bashing that we all find so fun and easy. I just got an e-mail from someone who has...
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Bill and Glenna Jo Ch...
gwjchris
Mar 31, 2004 9:40 pm
Folks, Has anyone seen a reference to a gap in the South Mountain above Harpers Ferry and below Gettysburg specifically called the "South Mountain Gap"? ...
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david lutton
dunkerch@...
Apr 1, 2004 12:45 am
The political "windfall " made from this perceived victory by some very astute politicians including Lincoln was simply putting on the best face on its...
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james2044
Apr 1, 2004 1:06 am
... Joseph L. Harsh does an excellent job of covering this idea in "Taken at the Flood". Pick up a copy, what he says just might cause you to rethink some of...
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james2044
Apr 1, 2004 1:20 am
... very ... best face on ... victory. ... army in the ... reasonably ... First all battles are political events and victory or defeat is often "perceived". ...
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james2044
Apr 1, 2004 1:32 am
... I believe ... IMO, the victories at Antietam & Perryville were the "turning point" of the war. Never again was the CSA able to mount two invisions and ...
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david lutton
dunkerch@...
Apr 2, 2004 12:30 am
This may not technically be a proper post but please indulge me..... If the SHAF hike to Elk Ridge is postponed due to weather could someone please post the...
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Brian Downey
antietam1862
Apr 14, 2004 3:35 pm
Hi Folks, I wish I knew more about Cavalry operations on the Maryland Campaign ... I'm doing some more map work, translating parts of Carman/Cope for the web...
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Brian Downey
antietam1862
Apr 14, 2004 3:40 pm
It's Robertson's Brigade, under Munford, of course, not Robinson. BD...
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James W. Durney
james2044
Apr 24, 2004 12:44 am
I have the Sears, Preist and Harsh books on the battle and Preist's book on South Mountain. What else would the group recommend? Now, when I'm at Antietam,...
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James W. Durney
james2044
Apr 24, 2004 12:46 am
Another question how do I get from Antietam to South Mountain? I expect to be there in late June. James2044...
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Brian Morris
mrbeankc
Apr 24, 2004 2:11 am
Pretty much the gift shop at the Visitors Center is your best choice most likely in Sharpsburg. However if you're planning on a side trip to Harpers Ferry...
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rotbaron@...
tom_shay
Apr 24, 2004 2:15 am
In a message dated 4/23/04 9:08:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, james2044@... writes: I have the Sears, Preist and Harsh books on the battle and Preist's ...
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T.R. Livesey
westwood_ent...
Apr 24, 2004 4:04 am
Without question, get Jay Luvaas & Harold Nelson's "US Army War College Guide to the battle of Antietam". The books you list are great books that overview the...