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31370 Mike & "Jaz"
planecrazzzy Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
8:57 am
Composite will weigh more than steel ?????   That's not what I've been led to believe.... ...
31371 John
w109885 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
11:58 am
Jim, they are fabric, built to plans with your style of counter weight. I'll take a picture later today. Farmer John ... From: "Jim Clement"...
31372 --DjD
dan42101 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
1:56 pm
Friends, Peter Pretorius sent these pictures in of his beautiful W-8 in Australia. Files>Calendars> May ...
31373 kcarder32 Offline Send Email May 1, 2009
3:53 pm
Anyone ever used a laminated spar instead of the standard 1 1/4" x 5 spruce? Seems to have its advantages of going this route. Claims to be 40% stronger, no...
31374 Mike Mckenna
mac8a2001 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
4:04 pm
Why are we to braze the piper channel on our control surfaces? Can they be Tig welded to the Rudder spar? Or is spar warping the big issue here. I feel more...
31375 Eric Schlanser
eschlanser Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
4:31 pm
Kent,   There was a thread on laminated spars recently right here. Check the archived files. Good luck. Eric ... From: kcarder32 <kcarder32@...> ...
31376 Peter Mather
pmather003 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
4:34 pm
Mike I think the issue was that this was at the limit of what normal humans could do with gas. I've tig welded the whole airframe and did some of the piper...
31377 Guido von Allmen
lapuceus Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
4:35 pm
We Tig welded all Piper channels and used laminated spars ( spruce ) Hope the fotos shows it. The bird has not flown yet! The wings were stress tested ( see...
31378 Ralph Williams
tailwindvt Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
4:41 pm
Mike,  Wittman was worried about the amount of heat imparted when welding.  I too used TIG and you should try Silicon Bronze rod for the TIG.  This is a...
31379 Michael Ruhnke
ruhnkem Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
5:10 pm
If I built a second one I would try my best to avoid the piper channel. Especially in the fuselage. There isn't a whol lot of it in the fuselage and it...
31380 Ben Austerman
austerman1 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
5:16 pm
Sweeeeeeet......
31381 Mike Mckenna
mac8a2001 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
6:32 pm
I did try the Silicon Bronze brazing with Tig. I had some warpage of the rudder spar and try to straighten it. The Spar tubing cracked at the brazed joint. I...
31382 Mike & "Jaz"
planecrazzzy Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
6:41 pm
I'll be TIG welding the Silicone Brone like I did with my Wing tips....( Piper channel )    Structual stuff I'll put in steel rod...    I also tried...
31383 Mike Mckenna
mac8a2001 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
7:03 pm
Here are some pics. Mike Mckenna ... From: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mike Mckenna Sent: Friday, May 01,...
31384 Mike & "Jaz"
planecrazzzy Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
7:54 pm
Can't tell what's going on there... Some of it looks cut...    When you were doing it... did you clean the area first....    some times if it's not...
31385 Jim Berry
jimberry614 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
7:55 pm
I'm fitting the fuel tank and have brazed in the top steel strips.  I'm using 1" x .032 steel strips for the bottom tank straps riveted to steel tabs on the...
31386 Mike & "Jaz"
planecrazzzy Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
8:00 pm
I was looking.... tried some different things and finally bought the "8" I needed...    Yeah ,  $160 bucks....    There.... now you should feel better...
31387 Jim Clement
twind9 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
8:02 pm
Here are some pics of a properly brazed control surface. Was brazed with normal brazing rod and acetylene torch. Jim C...
31388 Mike Mckenna
mac8a2001 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
8:27 pm
Yes it was clean. I had practiced on scrap and tested to destruction first. On this part I was having trouble getting it to flow the way I expected and...
31389 Eric Schlanser
eschlanser Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
8:33 pm
Jim B,   Buy his manual or search the Tailwind Times for Jim Stanton's directions on how to do these tank straps with the aft ends of the straps bent 90...
31390 Bill Reiste
fly_tailwind Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
8:39 pm
Mike; Yes I have, TIG and MIG with better results, A welding book on 4130 says that brazing will cause micro fractures in the 4130,, It heats,...
31391 Bill Reiste
fly_tailwind Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
8:52 pm
Mike; The only to straighten 4130 successfully is to heat to red or a little more and then quickly put a wet cold rag on it, you may have to do this a few...
31392 Bill Reiste
fly_tailwind Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
8:56 pm
Jim; OK..... I have to ask.??? ________________________________ From: Jim Clement <jclement000@...> To: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday,...
31393 Bill
stinson_voyager Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
9:00 pm
Me too.. I got ask.. what happened? From: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Clement Sent: Friday, May 01,...
31394 Michael Ruhnke
ruhnkem Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
9:11 pm
Now that is what I call a destructive test! I guess that old Piper Channel is tougher than I gave it credit for... To: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com From:...
31395 Bill Reiste
fly_tailwind Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
9:11 pm
Mike; I think from the pics, you have just seen what the book on metallurgy was talking about.. I also know that if you get 4130 to hot with a torch , to...
31396 Bill Reiste
fly_tailwind Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
9:14 pm
Hahaha maybe he is not going to tell...... ________________________________ From: Bill <sandiego@...> To: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com Sent:...
31397 Bill Reiste
fly_tailwind Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
9:19 pm
Mike; By the way, How is the engine and flying going. ________________________________ From: Michael Ruhnke <ruhnkem@...> To: Tailwind Forum...
31398 Mike Mckenna
mac8a2001 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
10:09 pm
Everything I have read or heard about 4130 steel contradicts the notion of cooling 4130 too fast. No drafts or quenching. It causes cracks and effects the...
31399 John Carnahan
mman95r Offline Send Email
May 1, 2009
11:04 pm
Ditto. Get it hot(Not too hot), keep it hot and cool slowly.... Jack ... From: Mike Mckenna To: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 7:09...
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