Brian: Couldn't even get off the ground here yesterday AM, conditions near
zero-zero. Cleaned her up some, once the fog lifted flew a while just enjoying
the Tailwind, but conditions were still very hazy.
2500 rpm (don't have a manifold pressure gauge) is getting me around 175-178 mph
at 2500 ft, have checked this twice w/ 4 way GPS. Don't think I'm hardly there
on
the prop yet, and I've got some drag reduction to do.
Rick N393RC

Brian Alley wrote:

> Rick, I started out yesterday at 10:00 and the haze
> was so bad I turned around after about 5 miles. I
> spent the day cleaning and tweaking stuff. I removed
> the cowling and cut off the flang on the bottom
> outlet. Made small fairings for the stub strut, and
> taped up the gaps between the fuslage and horizontal
> stab. I recently installed strut cuffs. At 3000' and
> 2500/22" average ground speed GPS 2 way was 163 MPH. I
> still have lots to do to cleanup the airframe but did
> see an increase over previous flights. Also cleaned
> some paint out of the pitot and static ports, now the
> Airspeed is within 5mph of the GPS instead of 15.
> Brian
> --- Rick and Cindy <rcaviate@...> wrote:
> > Jim: Haven't got serious about testing yet, just
> > happy to be flying. It seems to
> > have picked up about 50rpm, maybe a little more. I
> > was hoping to pick up a
> > hundred or so. Gonna wait for cooler and smoother
> > air to do performance checks.
> > Let ya know!
> > Sounds good on the 180hp, 212 is really cookin'! I
> > figure I'm doin' good to bust
> > 200 if everything is perfect.
> > Wish I knew more about working on props, also THINK
> > I wish Felix had been a
> > little more aggressive.
> > Rick N393RC
> >
> > 168x@... wrote:
> >
> > > --- In TailwindForum@y..., Rick and Cindy
> > <rcaviate@n...> wrote:
> > > > Got my prop back yesterday and we're flying
> > again. Darn good thing,
> > > I
> > > > was about to go into DTs after 23 days without
> > flying the Tailwind.
> > > > Lou Owen and Brian Alley: Are you going to the
> > Salem IN breakfast 8-
> > > 25
> > > > AM? Meet you there weather permitting.
> > > > Rick N393RC
> > >
> > > Rick, how did the prop turn out, did it help?
> > Whats takeoff and top
> > > speed rpm?  Only have 10 hours on 168X but have
> > quite a few TO and
> > > landings. Been making several small adjustments.
> > The prop needs a
> > > little tuning as it turns only 2200 on T.O. and
> > 2600 @ 2500ft. Climb
> > > is well over 2000 fpm. Haven't tried performance
> > at 8 and 10000 ft
> > > yet. Top speed is around 210-212mph but hopefully
> > pick up with srut
> > > fairings and 150 more rpm. Easy cruise at 2500 ft
> > is 2300rpm at22-22
> > > 1/2"M.P. is 190 true an with both ways average
> > gps.  Jim C.
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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>
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Brian,  I am now working on the rotary engine installation.   I have
placed the radiator (26lbs wet) at station "D"  (78" on new plans).
I have moved the engine forward several inches (of the most rearward
possible position).  To balance, I  can  locate the battery behind
the seats or in the engine compartment--I can choose between a wood
or metal prop.  I can carry more fuel in the header tank and less in
the wings.   At this phase, it is a guessing game.  If I could weigh
the fuselage and get a rough estimate of the c.g. it would help a
lot. --Jerry






>Jerry, The only way the cg could stay the same is if
>the cg of the wing and the cg of the fuslage was at
>the same datum. Why do you ask? Brian






>--- Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@...> wrote:
>>  Can anyone tell me how the Tailwind wing effects the
>>  c.g?  Imagine
>>  you have a fuselage completed with engine and you
>>  established its
>>  c.g. Then you add the wing.  Would the cg  move
>>  forward or back. Or
>>  stay in about the same position?   ---jerry
>>
>
>
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Rick, I started out yesterday at 10:00 and the haze
was so bad I turned around after about 5 miles. I
spent the day cleaning and tweaking stuff. I removed
the cowling and cut off the flang on the bottom
outlet. Made small fairings for the stub strut, and
taped up the gaps between the fuslage and horizontal
stab. I recently installed strut cuffs. At 3000' and
2500/22" average ground speed GPS 2 way was 163 MPH. I
still have lots to do to cleanup the airframe but did
see an increase over previous flights. Also cleaned
some paint out of the pitot and static ports, now the
Airspeed is within 5mph of the GPS instead of 15.
Brian
--- Rick and Cindy <rcaviate@...> wrote:
> Jim: Haven't got serious about testing yet, just
> happy to be flying. It seems to
> have picked up about 50rpm, maybe a little more. I
> was hoping to pick up a
> hundred or so. Gonna wait for cooler and smoother
> air to do performance checks.
> Let ya know!
> Sounds good on the 180hp, 212 is really cookin'! I
> figure I'm doin' good to bust
> 200 if everything is perfect.
> Wish I knew more about working on props, also THINK
> I wish Felix had been a
> little more aggressive.
> Rick N393RC
>
> 168x@... wrote:
>
> > --- In TailwindForum@y..., Rick and Cindy
> <rcaviate@n...> wrote:
> > > Got my prop back yesterday and we're flying
> again. Darn good thing,
> > I
> > > was about to go into DTs after 23 days without
> flying the Tailwind.
> > > Lou Owen and Brian Alley: Are you going to the
> Salem IN breakfast 8-
> > 25
> > > AM? Meet you there weather permitting.
> > > Rick N393RC
> >
> > Rick, how did the prop turn out, did it help?
> Whats takeoff and top
> > speed rpm?  Only have 10 hours on 168X but have
> quite a few TO and
> > landings. Been making several small adjustments.
> The prop needs a
> > little tuning as it turns only 2200 on T.O. and
> 2600 @ 2500ft. Climb
> > is well over 2000 fpm. Haven't tried performance
> at 8 and 10000 ft
> > yet. Top speed is around 210-212mph but hopefully
> pick up with srut
> > fairings and 150 more rpm. Easy cruise at 2500 ft
> is 2300rpm at22-22
> > 1/2"M.P. is 190 true an with both ways average
> gps.  Jim C.
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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> >
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Jerry, The only way the cg could stay the same is if
the cg of the wing and the cg of the fuslage was at
the same datum. Why do you ask? Brian
--- Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@...> wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how the Tailwind wing effects the
> c.g?  Imagine
> you have a fuselage completed with engine and you
> established its
> c.g. Then you add the wing.  Would the cg  move
> forward or back. Or
> stay in about the same position?   ---jerry
>


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Can anyone tell me how the Tailwind wing effects the c.g?  Imagine
you have a fuselage completed with engine and you established its
c.g. Then you add the wing.  Would the cg  move forward or back. Or
stay in about the same position?   ---jerry

Jim: Haven't got serious about testing yet, just happy to be flying. It seems to
have picked up about 50rpm, maybe a little more. I was hoping to pick up a
hundred or so. Gonna wait for cooler and smoother air to do performance checks.
Let ya know!
Sounds good on the 180hp, 212 is really cookin'! I figure I'm doin' good to bust
200 if everything is perfect.
Wish I knew more about working on props, also THINK I wish Felix had been a
little more aggressive.
Rick N393RC

168x@... wrote:

> --- In TailwindForum@y..., Rick and Cindy <rcaviate@n...> wrote:
> > Got my prop back yesterday and we're flying again. Darn good thing,
> I
> > was about to go into DTs after 23 days without flying the Tailwind.
> > Lou Owen and Brian Alley: Are you going to the Salem IN breakfast 8-
> 25
> > AM? Meet you there weather permitting.
> > Rick N393RC
>
> Rick, how did the prop turn out, did it help? Whats takeoff and top
> speed rpm?  Only have 10 hours on 168X but have quite a few TO and
> landings. Been making several small adjustments. The prop needs a
> little tuning as it turns only 2200 on T.O. and 2600 @ 2500ft. Climb
> is well over 2000 fpm. Haven't tried performance at 8 and 10000 ft
> yet. Top speed is around 210-212mph but hopefully pick up with srut
> fairings and 150 more rpm. Easy cruise at 2500 ft is 2300rpm at22-22
> 1/2"M.P. is 190 true an with both ways average gps.  Jim C.
>
>
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--- In TailwindForum@y..., Rick and Cindy <rcaviate@n...> wrote:
> Got my prop back yesterday and we're flying again. Darn good thing,
I
> was about to go into DTs after 23 days without flying the Tailwind.
> Lou Owen and Brian Alley: Are you going to the Salem IN breakfast 8-
25
> AM? Meet you there weather permitting.
> Rick N393RC

Rick, how did the prop turn out, did it help? Whats takeoff and top
speed rpm?  Only have 10 hours on 168X but have quite a few TO and
landings. Been making several small adjustments. The prop needs a
little tuning as it turns only 2200 on T.O. and 2600 @ 2500ft. Climb
is well over 2000 fpm. Haven't tried performance at 8 and 10000 ft
yet. Top speed is around 210-212mph but hopefully pick up with srut
fairings and 150 more rpm. Easy cruise at 2500 ft is 2300rpm at22-22
1/2"M.P. is 190 true an with both ways average gps.  Jim C.

I am having the drive made by a professional machine shop.  Right now
the output shaft has been splined and threaded and hardened.  Next it
will be ground.    The harmonics have been largely taken care of by
better design that has evolved over the years.   Still, when you are
building your own, you don't know for sure until you spin a
prop.--Jerry




>Jerry
>Are you making your own redrive system or are you buying a commercial unit?
>I hear that there are harmonic considerations in designing redrive
>system--i.e. they can shake themselves apart under some conditions.
>
>Dave
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@...>
>To: <TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:44 PM
>Subject: [TailwindForum] Hung the rotary today
>
>
>>  Today, the Mazda Rotary  became part of my Tailwind.  No redrive yet,
>>  or exhaust system, or air filter, or oil cooler and so on. ----Jerry
>>
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>>
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You guys gotta read this!! Talk about your massive dead stick landing!
No power for 18 minutes in an Airbus, and landed in the Azores, I'm no
geography wiz but isn't that in the middle of the Atlantic somewhere?
The guy that had hold of the pointy end of this aircraft deserves large
thanks.
Rick N393RC
http://wire.ap.org/APnews/center_story.html?FRONTID=EUROPE&STORYID=APIS7E3OJCO0

Jerry
Are you making your own redrive system or are you buying a commercial unit?
I hear that there are harmonic considerations in designing redrive
system--i.e. they can shake themselves apart under some conditions.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@...>
To: <TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:44 PM
Subject: [TailwindForum] Hung the rotary today


> Today, the Mazda Rotary  became part of my Tailwind.  No redrive yet,
> or exhaust system, or air filter, or oil cooler and so on. ----Jerry
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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>

Today, the Mazda Rotary  became part of my Tailwind.  No redrive yet,
or exhaust system, or air filter, or oil cooler and so on. ----Jerry

For those that want the forum sent directly the photos come inline
with the email. So you don't actually have to visit the forum.

Just thought you might like to know. Also a chat function and an
instant messege thingie too. So members on line can send instant
messeges back and forth.  Also if you duplex modem you can talk live
I
think. Its amazing.

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
TailwindForum group:

If you are using a Lycoming O-320 on
your Tailwind what pitch are you using

   o 69 inch
   o 70 Inch
   o 71 inch
   o 72 inch
   o 73 inch
   o 74 inch


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Thanks!

--- dpilot <dpilot@...> wrote:
>
> --- j-winddesigns@... wrote:
> > This is great.  Much better than my Forum. Jerry
> >
> >
> Yep, it works fine here
>
> JimV.
>
Here are a coupla pics I found on my puter from the
past.
That funny lookin one is a "krautenpopper" that
slipped in.
If ya wanna know who they all belong to, lemme know

JimV.
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> This is great.  Much better than my Forum. Jerry
>
>
Yep, it works fine here

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This is great.  Much better than my Forum. Jerry

Got my prop back yesterday and we're flying again. Darn good thing, I
was about to go into DTs after 23 days without flying the Tailwind.
Lou Owen and Brian Alley: Are you going to the Salem IN breakfast 8-25
AM? Meet you there weather permitting.
Rick N393RC

Hello Everybody,
Tom Lee Cummings signing in.
I Yahooooo, too!

> I do not believe that the digest sends pics.
> Dave

Well lets see how this site works. I am attaching two Tailwind photo's
Jim's new Tailwind     Image05 (54.4KB)
Weaver's Tailwind     Rocket&Tailwind (48.6KB)
Total of 93KB.
Luc

Thanks Jerry.  I hope it continues to work well, and be mostly maintenance
free.
Dave

----- Original Message -----
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To: <TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:03 AM
Subject: [TailwindForum] Looks Great.


> I am so glad you started this page Dave.  It accomplishes with
> ease all the things I was trying to do.  Jerry
>
>
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I do not believe that the digest sends pics.
Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: <gonsowr@...>
To: <TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 6:34 AM
Subject: [TailwindForum] New Forum


> I like this much better than the tons of emails I was getting with
> they way Jerry doing it.  I signed up for the daily digest. Does
> anyone know if the digest will automatically send pictures or do you
> have to do a seperate download?
>
>
>
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Today we are  very pleased to post a wonderful collection of  photos
detailing  the construction of Rick Croslin's beautiful Tailwind.
There are 114 photos in all.  Taking all these photos, scanning them,
and sending them to us was a large undertaking.  But Rick tackled it
and got the job done.  That is the way he is.    To view, go to
j-winddesigns.com and click on Construction photos and scroll  to
find them.  Jerry

Here are the Theissen Cowl photos which I have a feeling will open
o.k. on this site.  I sure hope so.  Jerry

I am so glad you started this page Dave.  It accomplishes with
ease all the things I was trying to do.  Jerry

I like this much better than the tons of emails I was getting with
they way Jerry doing it.  I signed up for the daily digest. Does
anyone know if the digest will automatically send pictures or do you
have to do a seperate download?

Test with picture

--- In TailwindForum@y..., "David Magaw" <dmagaw@a...> wrote:
> Trying to see if this new group works.
> Dave

Don't worry Dave, this baby will grow fast. You can upload Mpegs, WAV
files, pitures, data files. All free.  Love it.

Jim

Hey, this is a great place huh? Go Tailwinds!

just an opinion mindya

Jim

Trying to see if this new group works.
Dave