David,? Just got back from South America.? Great work on scheduling the F3F
race, and I look forward to the race as well.? Maybe we can set up a?practice or
two,?and get some more more of those Gulls flatlanders into the action, that is
of course if they feel up to the task.

Talk to you soon.........Adam Smith


-----Original Message-----
From: David J Klein <djklein@...>
To: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 9:02 am
Subject: [TPGulls] F3F at Torrey Pines








I have gotten official permission to run a 2-day F3F event at Torrey Pines
Gliderport on March 29th and 30th 2008. I wanted to let all of those
interested know right away, but more announcements are to follow shortly.
This should be one of the most organized F3F events in US history, with
Sponsors, catering, and awards. So save the dates, and start to look for
good airline/hotel rates.

An official event website will be developed shortly.

Thank You,

David Klein

David Klein

Graduate Research Student

Department of Structural Engineering

Jacobs School of Engineering

University of California San Diego

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Welcome home Adam!  Great job David on the F3F race!
Yes a few practices is in order if you want me to race
with all the pros!
Doug

--- Wholeman55@... wrote:

> David,? Just got back from South America.? Great
> work on scheduling the F3F race, and I look forward
> to the race as well.? Maybe we can set up a?practice
> or two,?and get some more more of those Gulls
> flatlanders into the action, that is of course if
> they feel up to the task.
>
> Talk to you soon.........Adam Smith
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David J Klein <djklein@...>
> To: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 9:02 am
> Subject: [TPGulls] F3F at Torrey Pines
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have gotten official permission to run a 2-day F3F
> event at Torrey Pines
> Gliderport on March 29th and 30th 2008. I wanted to
> let all of those
> interested know right away, but more announcements
> are to follow shortly.
> This should be one of the most organized F3F events
> in US history, with
> Sponsors, catering, and awards. So save the dates,
> and start to look for
> good airline/hotel rates.
>
> An official event website will be developed shortly.
>
> Thank You,
>
> David Klein
>
> David Klein
>
> Graduate Research Student
>
> Department of Structural Engineering
>
> Jacobs School of Engineering
>
> University of California San Diego
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
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If I am available, I'd love to come to a practice.  Let's schedule it when
the wind is west at 20+ so we don't have to worry about Jellyfish traffic
:-)  Oh, and we can have some real FUN!



Steve

   _____

From: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TPGulls@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Doug Rubin
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:35 AM
To: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TPGulls] F3F at Torrey Pines



Welcome home Adam! Great job David on the F3F race!
Yes a few practices is in order if you want me to race
with all the pros!
Doug

--- Wholeman55@aol. <mailto:Wholeman55%40aol.com> com wrote:

> David,? Just got back from South America.? Great
> work on scheduling the F3F race, and I look forward
> to the race as well.? Maybe we can set up a?practice
> or two,?and get some more more of those Gulls
> flatlanders into the action, that is of course if
> they feel up to the task.
>
> Talk to you soon.........Adam Smith
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David J Klein <djklein@ucsd. <mailto:djklein%40ucsd.edu> edu>
> To: TPGulls@yahoogroups <mailto:TPGulls%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> Sent: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 9:02 am
> Subject: [TPGulls] F3F at Torrey Pines
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have gotten official permission to run a 2-day F3F
> event at Torrey Pines
> Gliderport on March 29th and 30th 2008. I wanted to
> let all of those
> interested know right away, but more announcements
> are to follow shortly.
> This should be one of the most organized F3F events
> in US history, with
> Sponsors, catering, and awards. So save the dates,
> and start to look for
> good airline/hotel rates.
>
> An official event website will be developed shortly.
>
> Thank You,
>
> David Klein
>
> David Klein
>
> Graduate Research Student
>
> Department of Structural Engineering
>
> Jacobs School of Engineering
>
> University of California San Diego
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
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The scheduled club contest for Nov.11 will be canceled and be replaced
by the SC2 contest on Nov.18. The Oct.28 Club contest will be dropped
from the schedule. If you have any questions please contact me.

Keith

As one of the "flatlanders" mentioned previously, I would be interested in at
least trying my hand at F3F (if only doing so with a Sapphire during a practice
run).  Do they have a speed record for Thermal planes?

Eric

---- Steve Condon <stevecondon@...> wrote:
> If I am available, I'd love to come to a practice.  Let's schedule it when
> the wind is west at 20+ so we don't have to worry about Jellyfish traffic
> :-)  Oh, and we can have some real FUN!
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>   _____
>
> From: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TPGulls@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Doug Rubin
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:35 AM
> To: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [TPGulls] F3F at Torrey Pines
>
>
>
> Welcome home Adam! Great job David on the F3F race!
> Yes a few practices is in order if you want me to race
> with all the pros!
> Doug
>
> --- Wholeman55@aol. <mailto:Wholeman55%40aol.com> com wrote:
>
> > David,? Just got back from South America.? Great
> > work on scheduling the F3F race, and I look forward
> > to the race as well.? Maybe we can set up a?practice
> > or two,?and get some more more of those Gulls
> > flatlanders into the action, that is of course if
> > they feel up to the task.
> >
> > Talk to you soon.........Adam Smith
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David J Klein <djklein@ucsd. <mailto:djklein%40ucsd.edu> edu>
> > To: TPGulls@yahoogroups <mailto:TPGulls%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> > Sent: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 9:02 am
> > Subject: [TPGulls] F3F at Torrey Pines
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have gotten official permission to run a 2-day F3F
> > event at Torrey Pines
> > Gliderport on March 29th and 30th 2008. I wanted to
> > let all of those
> > interested know right away, but more announcements
> > are to follow shortly.
> > This should be one of the most organized F3F events
> > in US history, with
> > Sponsors, catering, and awards. So save the dates,
> > and start to look for
> > good airline/hotel rates.
> >
> > An official event website will be developed shortly.
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > David Klein
> >
> > David Klein
> >
> > Graduate Research Student
> >
> > Department of Structural Engineering
> >
> > Jacobs School of Engineering
> >
> > University of California San Diego
> >
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> > removed]
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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All

The remainder of my flying season this year is going to be restricted
to simulators while I recuperate from a recent health issue. For the
next couple of months I will be building new toys for the 2008
competition season. To help defray the cost I am going to be selling
the following items. First choice goes to TPG members. If you see
anything your interested in please give me a call and we can make an
appointment to have you come on over for a look. (I live in South
Escondido just off the 163). For health reasons, I will not be able to
get to the field to demo or to the post office to ship. If you are
seriously interested this will be a "stop by and look" deal.
I can be reached at (760) 746-4949, or (760) 420-7550 (cell) from 9:00
AM to 9:00 PM daily.

SHARON PRO 3.7M
Yellow over Red with red on both tips so you can tell it apart from
the others. This glider is RTF less RX. Servos are JR 168s on Ailerons
and JR 368s for Flaps, Rudder and Elevator. Battery is a 2400 NiMed.
This one is Primo, NO WARPS. I have always kept it in the bag when not
in use, (Bag not included). The wing tips have minor scuffing on the
bottom from landing at the Poway Field. It has never been crashed, NO
cracks or damage. This plane has a custom removable GRP nose skeg and
nylon V-skeg under the flaps.  This is a nice toy for anyone looking
to move up the food chain into one of the best competition ready
aircraft. If you fly a Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio.
$1250.00 Firm

Artemis LT V-Tail
Yellow over Blue. This glider is less RX and Battery. (The RX is going
into something else and the battery needs to be replaced) Servos are
JR 351s on flaps and JR 341s on everything else. This plane has a
custom removable GRP nose skeg and nylon single post skeg under the
flaps.  The wing tips have minor scuffing on the bottoms from landing
on the Poway Field. The wing saddle has minor cracks, (repaired), from
downwind landings at the SWC a few years back  The tips on one of the
V-tails has some very minor cosmetic damage from an argument with a
toolbox in the back of my truck. This plane launches like a raped ape
and is competition ready for anyone wanting to step up from a bagged
plane. If you fly a Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio.
Asking $550.00

Mantis MH-32 V-Tail
White over Black 3 piece bagged wings with multi color accents on the
wings and stab. This aircraft is less battery, (battery needs to be
replaced). RX is an FMA 8 channel. Servos are all Hitec. This thing is
an East Coast design, (54 oz),  and can be a little squirrelly to
launch due to boom flex. It is absolutely a light air floater and a
landing machine. (Can you say 45 degree down angle at less than
walking speed with flaps deployed ?). For those of you who want to
tinker this is the toy at a reasonable price.
If you fly a Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio
Asking $300.00



EASY GLIDER ELECTRIC
White with Red Tips. Motor is an Astro 020 Brushless w/gearbox. Cam
11-8 prop w/spinner. RX is an FMA 8 channel. Servos are 2 Hitec HS-81
in fus and 2 HS-55 on Ailerons.  The area in the fus under the wing is
hollowed out for a TP-2100 three cell pack, (not included), and it
balances perfectly without nose weight. Scuff guard has been placed on
the bottom of the fus for abrasion protection. I have flown this thing
maybe 6 times.  It's a fly anywhere machine, just not my thing.
The motor and radio components alone are worth more than the asking price.
If you fly a Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio
Asking $175 complete or $150 less RX.

FILIP-V 400
This is a Rudder Elevator V-tail ship. 60 inch wingspan with
Transparent Blue covering and a white glass fus. Set up for LMR speed
400 competition, this ship includes a tweaked "stock" 6V speed 400
motor with an integral 4-1 gearbox, and a CAM 12-10 folding prop with
spinner. It has two HS 55 servos and an FMA 8 channel RX. The fus is
set up to accept a 7 cell 500Mah Nicad pack, (not included). All up
weight with the above gear is 21 oz.
Asking $150 complete or $125 less RX

ENCORE DLG 6 -channel, A.F.E.R with Gyro.   RX is a JR 610, Servos are
Dymond 60"s ?  This is not the newest version. It is about 4 years
old. Set up for Right handed throw. The left wing tip folded and was
re-bagged with carbon strips. Looks a little rough but is structurally
sound.. Weight in the 12 oz range. This would make a good backup or
practice ship. Replace the battery and crystal and fly. If you fly a
Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio
Asking $200.00

GLADIATOR type DLG 4 channel with Gyro. All molded balsa and glass
flying surfaces. Glass pod with slip on nose cone and carbon tube
boom. RG-15 airfoil. Pull-pull cables on the rudder and stab. Set up
for right hand throw. RX is a JR 610, Servos are Dymond 60"s ?
Weight in the 13 oz range.
This is a great windy weather ship for those breezy afternoons at
Poway. Replace the battery and crystal and fly. If you fly a Stylus I
can transfer my program to your radio
Asking $200.00








ELECTRO STREAK
This one was scratch built from plans using select contest grade
balsa. Super light weight and clean build. Covered in Clear and Hot
Red Money Cote. As built, it was set up for a standard Astro cobalt 05
brushed motor and a 7 cell Nicad pack that have since been lost. I
will throw in a Astro FAI 05 brushed motor that will bolt right up.
You add a Lipo pack with the right C rating and this thing will
scream. (Needs ESC, spinner and prop)
There is a pre-91 Futaba RX and Futaba 131 servos installed.
Asking $150

LEVOE DESIGN VARMIT S-400 PYLON RACER NIB
This is a pylon racer from a few years ago. Fiberglass fus, balsa
sheet tail, spyder foam cores that you bag. Build plans incuded.
Asking $25


Thank you for looking
Garth Warner

Garth, I willl take the easy glider.  It is the Rud. Ail. Elev. version
right?

Also, I think you could have asked at least $1,500 for the Sharon.  I am
actually tempted to say I want the Sharon too, but I must hold off.

Hope you feel better soon.

Mike


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [TPGulls] Toys for Sale
From: "garth738" <gwarner@...>
Date: Tue, October 30, 2007 5:43 pm
To: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com

All

The remainder of my flying season this year is going to be restricted
to simulators while I recuperate from a recent health issue. For the
next couple of months I will be building new toys for the 2008
competition season. To help defray the cost I am going to be selling
the following items. First choice goes to TPG members. If you see
anything your interested in please give me a call and we can make an
appointment to have you come on over for a look. (I live in South
Escondido just off the 163). For health reasons, I will not be able to
get to the field to demo or to the post office to ship. If you are
seriously interested this will be a "stop by and look" deal.
I can be reached at (760) 746-4949, or (760) 420-7550 (cell) from 9:00
AM to 9:00 PM daily.

SHARON PRO 3.7M
Yellow over Red with red on both tips so you can tell it apart from
the others. This glider is RTF less RX. Servos are JR 168s on Ailerons
and JR 368s for Flaps, Rudder and Elevator. Battery is a 2400 NiMed.
This one is Primo, NO WARPS. I have always kept it in the bag when not
in use, (Bag not included). The wing tips have minor scuffing on the
bottom from landing at the Poway Field. It has never been crashed, NO
cracks or damage. This plane has a custom removable GRP nose skeg and
nylon V-skeg under the flaps. This is a nice toy for anyone looking
to move up the food chain into one of the best competition ready
aircraft. If you fly a Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio.
$1250.00 Firm

Artemis LT V-Tail
Yellow over Blue. This glider is less RX and Battery. (The RX is going
into something else and the battery needs to be replaced) Servos are
JR 351s on flaps and JR 341s on everything else. This plane has a
custom removable GRP nose skeg and nylon single post skeg under the
flaps. The wing tips have minor scuffing on the bottoms from landing
on the Poway Field. The wing saddle has minor cracks, (repaired), from
downwind landings at the SWC a few years back The tips on one of the
V-tails has some very minor cosmetic damage from an argument with a
toolbox in the back of my truck. This plane launches like a raped ape
and is competition ready for anyone wanting to step up from a bagged
plane. If you fly a Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio.
Asking $550.00

Mantis MH-32 V-Tail
White over Black 3 piece bagged wings with multi color accents on the
wings and stab. This aircraft is less battery, (battery needs to be
replaced). RX is an FMA 8 channel. Servos are all Hitec. This thing is
an East Coast design, (54 oz), and can be a little squirrelly to
launch due to boom flex. It is absolutely a light air floater and a
landing machine. (Can you say 45 degree down angle at less than
walking speed with flaps deployed ?). For those of you who want to
tinker this is the toy at a reasonable price.
If you fly a Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio
Asking $300.00

EASY GLIDER ELECTRIC
White with Red Tips. Motor is an Astro 020 Brushless w/gearbox. Cam
11-8 prop w/spinner. RX is an FMA 8 channel. Servos are 2 Hitec HS-81
in fus and 2 HS-55 on Ailerons. The area in the fus under the wing is
hollowed out for a TP-2100 three cell pack, (not included), and it
balances perfectly without nose weight. Scuff guard has been placed on
the bottom of the fus for abrasion protection. I have flown this thing
maybe 6 times. It's a fly anywhere machine, just not my thing.
The motor and radio components alone are worth more than the asking
price.
If you fly a Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio
Asking $175 complete or $150 less RX.

FILIP-V 400
This is a Rudder Elevator V-tail ship. 60 inch wingspan with
Transparent Blue covering and a white glass fus. Set up for LMR speed
400 competition, this ship includes a tweaked "stock" 6V speed 400
motor with an integral 4-1 gearbox, and a CAM 12-10 folding prop with
spinner. It has two HS 55 servos and an FMA 8 channel RX. The fus is
set up to accept a 7 cell 500Mah Nicad pack, (not included). All up
weight with the above gear is 21 oz.
Asking $150 complete or $125 less RX

ENCORE DLG 6 -channel, A.F.E.R with Gyro. RX is a JR 610, Servos are
Dymond 60"s ? This is not the newest version. It is about 4 years
old. Set up for Right handed throw. The left wing tip folded and was
re-bagged with carbon strips. Looks a little rough but is structurally
sound.. Weight in the 12 oz range. This would make a good backup or
practice ship. Replace the battery and crystal and fly. If you fly a
Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio
Asking $200.00

GLADIATOR type DLG 4 channel with Gyro. All molded balsa and glass
flying surfaces. Glass pod with slip on nose cone and carbon tube
boom. RG-15 airfoil. Pull-pull cables on the rudder and stab. Set up
for right hand throw. RX is a JR 610, Servos are Dymond 60"s ?
Weight in the 13 oz range.
This is a great windy weather ship for those breezy afternoons at
Poway. Replace the battery and crystal and fly. If you fly a Stylus I
can transfer my program to your radio
Asking $200.00

ELECTRO STREAK
This one was scratch built from plans using select contest grade
balsa. Super light weight and clean build. Covered in Clear and Hot
Red Money Cote. As built, it was set up for a standard Astro cobalt 05
brushed motor and a 7 cell Nicad pack that have since been lost. I
will throw in a Astro FAI 05 brushed motor that will bolt right up.
You add a Lipo pack with the right C rating and this thing will
scream. (Needs ESC, spinner and prop)
There is a pre-91 Futaba RX and Futaba 131 servos installed.
Asking $150

LEVOE DESIGN VARMIT S-400 PYLON RACER NIB
This is a pylon racer from a few years ago. Fiberglass fus, balsa
sheet tail, spyder foam cores that you bag. Build plans incuded.
Asking $25

Thank you for looking
Garth Warner

Mike

Yah, Two aileron servos, one rudder servo and one elevator servo.

Garth

mike@... wrote:

> Garth, I willl take the easy glider. It is the Rud. Ail. Elev. version
> right?
>
> Also, I think you could have asked at least $1,500 for the Sharon. I am
> actually tempted to say I want the Sharon too, but I must hold off.
>
> Hope you feel better soon.
>
> Mike
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [TPGulls] Toys for Sale
> From: "garth738" <gwarner@... <mailto:gwarner%40cox.net>>
> Date: Tue, October 30, 2007 5:43 pm
> To: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com <mailto:TPGulls%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> All
>
> The remainder of my flying season this year is going to be restricted
> to simulators while I recuperate from a recent health issue. For the
> next couple of months I will be building new toys for the 2008
> competition season. To help defray the cost I am going to be selling
> the following items. First choice goes to TPG members. If you see
> anything your interested in please give me a call and we can make an
> appointment to have you come on over for a look. (I live in South
> Escondido just off the 163). For health reasons, I will not be able to
> get to the field to demo or to the post office to ship. If you are
> seriously interested this will be a "stop by and look" deal.
> I can be reached at (760) 746-4949, or (760) 420-7550 (cell) from 9:00
> AM to 9:00 PM daily.
>
> SHARON PRO 3.7M
> Yellow over Red with red on both tips so you can tell it apart from
> the others. This glider is RTF less RX. Servos are JR 168s on Ailerons
> and JR 368s for Flaps, Rudder and Elevator. Battery is a 2400 NiMed.
> This one is Primo, NO WARPS. I have always kept it in the bag when not
> in use, (Bag not included). The wing tips have minor scuffing on the
> bottom from landing at the Poway Field. It has never been crashed, NO
> cracks or damage. This plane has a custom removable GRP nose skeg and
> nylon V-skeg under the flaps. This is a nice toy for anyone looking
> to move up the food chain into one of the best competition ready
> aircraft. If you fly a Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio.
> $1250.00 Firm
>
> Artemis LT V-Tail
> Yellow over Blue. This glider is less RX and Battery. (The RX is going
> into something else and the battery needs to be replaced) Servos are
> JR 351s on flaps and JR 341s on everything else. This plane has a
> custom removable GRP nose skeg and nylon single post skeg under the
> flaps. The wing tips have minor scuffing on the bottoms from landing
> on the Poway Field. The wing saddle has minor cracks, (repaired), from
> downwind landings at the SWC a few years back The tips on one of the
> V-tails has some very minor cosmetic damage from an argument with a
> toolbox in the back of my truck. This plane launches like a raped ape
> and is competition ready for anyone wanting to step up from a bagged
> plane. If you fly a Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio.
> Asking $550.00
>
> Mantis MH-32 V-Tail
> White over Black 3 piece bagged wings with multi color accents on the
> wings and stab. This aircraft is less battery, (battery needs to be
> replaced). RX is an FMA 8 channel. Servos are all Hitec. This thing is
> an East Coast design, (54 oz), and can be a little squirrelly to
> launch due to boom flex. It is absolutely a light air floater and a
> landing machine. (Can you say 45 degree down angle at less than
> walking speed with flaps deployed ?). For those of you who want to
> tinker this is the toy at a reasonable price.
> If you fly a Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio
> Asking $300.00
>
> EASY GLIDER ELECTRIC
> White with Red Tips. Motor is an Astro 020 Brushless w/gearbox. Cam
> 11-8 prop w/spinner. RX is an FMA 8 channel. Servos are 2 Hitec HS-81
> in fus and 2 HS-55 on Ailerons. The area in the fus under the wing is
> hollowed out for a TP-2100 three cell pack, (not included), and it
> balances perfectly without nose weight. Scuff guard has been placed on
> the bottom of the fus for abrasion protection. I have flown this thing
> maybe 6 times. It's a fly anywhere machine, just not my thing.
> The motor and radio components alone are worth more than the asking
> price.
> If you fly a Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio
> Asking $175 complete or $150 less RX.
>
> FILIP-V 400
> This is a Rudder Elevator V-tail ship. 60 inch wingspan with
> Transparent Blue covering and a white glass fus. Set up for LMR speed
> 400 competition, this ship includes a tweaked "stock" 6V speed 400
> motor with an integral 4-1 gearbox, and a CAM 12-10 folding prop with
> spinner. It has two HS 55 servos and an FMA 8 channel RX. The fus is
> set up to accept a 7 cell 500Mah Nicad pack, (not included). All up
> weight with the above gear is 21 oz.
> Asking $150 complete or $125 less RX
>
> ENCORE DLG 6 -channel, A.F.E.R with Gyro. RX is a JR 610, Servos are
> Dymond 60"s ? This is not the newest version. It is about 4 years
> old. Set up for Right handed throw. The left wing tip folded and was
> re-bagged with carbon strips. Looks a little rough but is structurally
> sound.. Weight in the 12 oz range. This would make a good backup or
> practice ship. Replace the battery and crystal and fly. If you fly a
> Stylus I can transfer my program to your radio
> Asking $200.00
>
> GLADIATOR type DLG 4 channel with Gyro. All molded balsa and glass
> flying surfaces. Glass pod with slip on nose cone and carbon tube
> boom. RG-15 airfoil. Pull-pull cables on the rudder and stab. Set up
> for right hand throw. RX is a JR 610, Servos are Dymond 60"s ?
> Weight in the 13 oz range.
> This is a great windy weather ship for those breezy afternoons at
> Poway. Replace the battery and crystal and fly. If you fly a Stylus I
> can transfer my program to your radio
> Asking $200.00
>
> ELECTRO STREAK
> This one was scratch built from plans using select contest grade
> balsa. Super light weight and clean build. Covered in Clear and Hot
> Red Money Cote. As built, it was set up for a standard Astro cobalt 05
> brushed motor and a 7 cell Nicad pack that have since been lost. I
> will throw in a Astro FAI 05 brushed motor that will bolt right up.
> You add a Lipo pack with the right C rating and this thing will
> scream. (Needs ESC, spinner and prop)
> There is a pre-91 Futaba RX and Futaba 131 servos installed.
> Asking $150
>
> LEVOE DESIGN VARMIT S-400 PYLON RACER NIB
> This is a pylon racer from a few years ago. Fiberglass fus, balsa
> sheet tail, spyder foam cores that you bag. Build plans incuded.
> Asking $25
>
> Thank you for looking
> Garth Warner
>
>

My Blaster nose heavy so I added 1/4 ox to the tail. Rather than carry that
around, I figured
out I should replace the 2oz battery pack with one that weighs 1.3oz.

So, where can I order a square Rx pack by weight? The Blaster has a skinny nose,
so the pack
needs to be fractional AAA cells in square formation and weigh about 1.3 oz

Thanks, John

I use a 350 Mah NiMh in my Blaster and XP's.   They weigh about 1.25 ounces
and balance my Blaster 2 perfectly.  Two  sources:

     Batteries America (_www.batteriesamerica.com_
(http://www.batteriesamerica.com) )

     Kennedy Composites (_www.kennedycomposites.com_
(http://www.kennedycomposites.com) )

Don  Richmond
San Diego, CA (Pensacola, FL for a couple of  weeks)
hilaunch@...
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Try...

http://www.batteriesamerica.com/

or

http://www.cheapbatterypacks.com/?sid=886620

Or Scan the following for more ideas

http://www.rcsoaring.com/manuf.shtml

Good Luck
G


jmcneil92037 wrote:

> My Blaster nose heavy so I added 1/4 ox to the tail. Rather than carry
> that around, I figured
> out I should replace the 2oz battery pack with one that weighs 1.3oz.
>
> So, where can I order a square Rx pack by weight? The Blaster has a
> skinny nose, so the pack
> needs to be fractional AAA cells in square formation and weigh about
> 1.3 oz
>
> Thanks, John
>
>

Goedendag ;-)

Eat your hart out ... this really transcends indoor/electric flight, it's so
much more than that. It's almost art and it's a new kind of presenting the
modelflying hobby to the public ..

http://www.rc-fliegerfilme.de/flash/wallhalla1.htm
http://www.rc-fliegerfilme.de/flash/wallhalla2.htm (lovely dragon at the
beginning and some Dutch input at 1/3 of the video)
http://www.rc-fliegerfilme.de/flash/wallhalla3.htm (4D-flying by Martin Müller
and some magnificent stuff for the children)

Wall-Halla Synchro Cup
Nr 1 http://airtoimedia.nl/web/upload/vdVechten/SFC-derk-bert.wmv (We will sing
the 'Wilhelmus', Dutch national anthem  )
Nr 2 http://airtoimedia.nl/web/upload/vdVechten/SFC-markus-dennis.wmv
Nr 3 http://airtoimedia.nl/web/upload/vdVechten/SFC-kai-karl-martin.wmv

Vriendelijke groeten ;-) Ron van Sommeren
int. electric fly-in, Nijmegen, the Netherlands
http://home.hetnet.nl/~ronvans

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Dear Torrey Pines Gulls member:

The November 2007 edition of the Torrey Pines Gulls Newsletter is now
available
at:

http://www.torreypinesgulls.org/Newsletters/GullWings2007-11.pdf

All available newsletters are available on the home page at:

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If there are any questions, additions, comments or suggestions, please
email:

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Special thanks to Bill Eckles our editor. If you have an article or
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Thanks and see you in the air!

Steve
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Fellows,
Just a reminder that the SC2 contest is this Sunday at Poway field. We
will need help with line retrieval using the mini bikes.Also
transmitter impound will be busy and could use your help. If you have
any questions concerning the format or tasks just go to our web site.

Thanks,
Keith

I am on it Keith, it won't hert to let Al Bendit know about his bike for
retrieval.

Arthur.



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: kafinken
   To: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:15 PM
   Subject: [TPGulls] SC2 Contest Sunday


   Fellows,
   Just a reminder that the SC2 contest is this Sunday at Poway field. We
   will need help with line retrieval using the mini bikes.Also
   transmitter impound will be busy and could use your help. If you have
   any questions concerning the format or tasks just go to our web site.

   Thanks,
   Keith






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Keith,
Cathy and I will be there to help anyway needed.  I still thinking of flying as
well.
Moose


To: TPGulls@...: kafinken@...: Wed, 14 Nov 2007
22:15:37 +0000Subject: [TPGulls] SC2 Contest Sunday




Fellows,Just a reminder that the SC2 contest is this Sunday at Poway field.
Wewill need help with line retrieval using the mini bikes.Alsotransmitter
impound will be busy and could use your help. If you haveany questions
concerning the format or tasks just go to our web site.Thanks,Keith






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I'll be there with bike.
Al
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: kafinken
   To: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:15 PM
   Subject: [TPGulls] SC2 Contest Sunday


   Fellows,
   Just a reminder that the SC2 contest is this Sunday at Poway field. We
   will need help with line retrieval using the mini bikes.Also
   transmitter impound will be busy and could use your help. If you have
   any questions concerning the format or tasks just go to our web site.

   Thanks,
   Keith





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Just a reminder so that you don't miss this great event!

For the latest information visit

www.OtayLakeFloatFly.org

Keith, et al;

It looks like I am not going to be able to be there tomorrow after all.  I'm
very sorry.
Moose


To: TPGulls@...: bendett@...: Thu, 15 Nov 2007
08:59:53 -0800Subject: Re: [TPGulls] SC2 Contest Sunday




I'll be there with bike.Al----- Original Message ----- From: kafinken To:
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[TPGulls] SC2 Contest SundayFellows,Just a reminder that the SC2 contest is this
Sunday at Poway field. Wewill need help with line retrieval using the mini
bikes.Alsotransmitter impound will be busy and could use your help. If you
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Goedendag ;-)

Drive Calculator version 3.3 is available, for Windows, Mac and Linux.
Christian Persson lists the new features here:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=771184
And here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/D-calc/message/176

Download, help, announcements, discussion:
http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/D-calc

Vriendelijke groeten ;-) Ron van Sommeren
* diy brushless motor building tips & tricks
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240993
* diy brushless motor discussion group
http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/lrk-torquemax
* int. electric fly-in, Nijmegen, the Netherlands
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The final contest of the year for SC2 was held at the TPG Poway Flight
Center Sunday, Nov.18. Forty nine pilots attended the event. Five
different classes, Expert, Intermediate, Sportsman, RES and 2 Meter
were flown.  TPG did very well with Mike Smith winning first place in
Expert class with a score of 3965.6 out of 4000 possible points. Steve
Condon was third in Expert. All scores will be published in the
newsletter and on Yahoo.

The president of SC2, Lex Mierop, asked if TPG would be willing to
host two contests next year as other clubs are losing there fields and
some contests will have to be canceled if alternate fields are not
found. The consensus was yes we could but we would discuss with our
membership.

All TPG members who attended did an outstanding job helping with the
contest and no complaints were registered.


Keith Fnkenbiner, CD

Keith and Cliff,

Thank you for running such a smooth and fun contest. I had a great
time. The winches were reliable (thanks Eric) and the field was
absolutely beautiful.

Makes me proud to be a Gull. I vote for two contests next year

John

On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:05 PM, kafinken wrote:

>
>
> The final contest of the year for SC2 was held at the TPG Poway Flight
> Center Sunday, Nov.18. Forty nine pilots attended the event. Five
> different classes, Expert, Intermediate, Sportsman, RES and 2 Meter
> were flown. TPG did very well with Mike Smith winning first place in
> Expert class with a score of 3965.6 out of 4000 possible points. Steve
> Condon was third in Expert. All scores will be published in the
> newsletter and on Yahoo.
>
> The president of SC2, Lex Mierop, asked if TPG would be willing to
> host two contests next year as other clubs are losing there fields and
> some contests will have to be canceled if alternate fields are not
> found. The consensus was yes we could but we would discuss with our
> membership.
>
> All TPG members who attended did an outstanding job helping with the
> contest and no complaints were registered.
>
> Keith Fnkenbiner, CD
>
>
>

I second that motion, John!  I'll CD one if you like.



On another note, my son Christopher accidentally left a paper Trader Joes
bag with about 5 of these little robot looking toys by the scoring table.
Did anyone happen to pick them up?  Please e-mail directly to
stevecondon@... or call me at 760-295-8250.



Thanks guys!



Steve

   _____

From: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TPGulls@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
John McNeil
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:55 PM
To: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TPGulls] SC2 Contest Results



Keith and Cliff,

Thank you for running such a smooth and fun contest. I had a great
time. The winches were reliable (thanks Eric) and the field was
absolutely beautiful.

Makes me proud to be a Gull. I vote for two contests next year

John

On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:05 PM, kafinken wrote:

>
>
> The final contest of the year for SC2 was held at the TPG Poway Flight
> Center Sunday, Nov.18. Forty nine pilots attended the event. Five
> different classes, Expert, Intermediate, Sportsman, RES and 2 Meter
> were flown. TPG did very well with Mike Smith winning first place in
> Expert class with a score of 3965.6 out of 4000 possible points. Steve
> Condon was third in Expert. All scores will be published in the
> newsletter and on Yahoo.
>
> The president of SC2, Lex Mierop, asked if TPG would be willing to
> host two contests next year as other clubs are losing there fields and
> some contests will have to be canceled if alternate fields are not
> found. The consensus was yes we could but we would discuss with our
> membership.
>
> All TPG members who attended did an outstanding job helping with the
> contest and no complaints were registered.
>
> Keith Fnkenbiner, CD
>
>
>





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I took them, it is time he stop playing with dolls. Teach him to fly.
Arthur.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Steve Condon
   To: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:01 AM
   Subject: RE: [TPGulls] SC2 Contest Results--Anyone find a bag of Lego toys
(Bionicles)?


   I second that motion, John! I'll CD one if you like.

   On another note, my son Christopher accidentally left a paper Trader Joes
   bag with about 5 of these little robot looking toys by the scoring table.
   Did anyone happen to pick them up? Please e-mail directly to
   stevecondon@... or call me at 760-295-8250.

   Thanks guys!

   Steve

   _____

   From: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TPGulls@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
   John McNeil
   Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:55 PM
   To: TPGulls@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [TPGulls] SC2 Contest Results

   Keith and Cliff,

   Thank you for running such a smooth and fun contest. I had a great
   time. The winches were reliable (thanks Eric) and the field was
   absolutely beautiful.

   Makes me proud to be a Gull. I vote for two contests next year

   John

   On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:05 PM, kafinken wrote:

   >
   >
   > The final contest of the year for SC2 was held at the TPG Poway Flight
   > Center Sunday, Nov.18. Forty nine pilots attended the event. Five
   > different classes, Expert, Intermediate, Sportsman, RES and 2 Meter
   > were flown. TPG did very well with Mike Smith winning first place in
   > Expert class with a score of 3965.6 out of 4000 possible points. Steve
   > Condon was third in Expert. All scores will be published in the
   > newsletter and on Yahoo.
   >
   > The president of SC2, Lex Mierop, asked if TPG would be willing to
   > host two contests next year as other clubs are losing there fields and
   > some contests will have to be canceled if alternate fields are not
   > found. The consensus was yes we could but we would discuss with our
   > membership.
   >
   > All TPG members who attended did an outstanding job helping with the
   > contest and no complaints were registered.
   >
   > Keith Fnkenbiner, CD
   >
   >
   >

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Goedendag ;-)

Version 3.302 is available, two minor bugfixes, see
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Download, help, disscussion, suggestions:
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* int. electric fly-in, Nijmegen, the Netherlands
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Drew, I am curious if you have had a chance to do the scores from
Saturdays contest.  I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss them.  I
know you have a new child at home, so please don't feel like I am
bugging you for them.

Thanks for the great contest.  I am practicing away,
David