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5133 Darrell Smith
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Dec 1, 2007
11:19 pm
This engine interests me, but not for the usual reasons. Yes, I'm modeling TOC narrow gauge (well, slightly earlier: 1885) but in S scale. I need a few...
5134 Ed Anderson
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Dec 2, 2007
12:16 am
Darrell, None are out yet, so we can't measure 'em, but I think it has the same dimensions of the Mt Gretna engine ---if you can find a plan of it, take the...
5135 Geoffrey Hamway
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Dec 5, 2007
2:24 am
I've got an Sn3 K-27 that's been backdated to the as-delivered 1903 Vauclain compound configuration, and is almost ready for painting. After dutifully...
5136 Jim
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Dec 5, 2007
6:50 am
Geoff, Your as-built K-27 boiler jacket is planished iron, which has the same appearance as Russia iron. (Russia iron, is in fact a form of planished iron.)...
5137 Geoffrey Hamway
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Dec 5, 2007
2:06 pm
Jim, Thanks for the definitive and truly helpful answer! Geoff...
5138 Mike Conder
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Dec 5, 2007
5:11 pm
Jim, I know this may be more for historians, but how long do you think the planished iron lasted on the K-27's before it was painted black? Mike Conder Jim...
5139 Jim
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Dec 5, 2007
9:18 pm
No problem, Geoff, happy to help. The planished iron will look beautiful, too. Are you planning to do the as built scheme? I'd be very interested to see how...
5140 Jim
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Dec 5, 2007
9:42 pm
Mike, I cant say for the D&RG shops, but planished iron can keep for a long time - many years, even decades - when taken care of. Painted sheet iron jackets...
5141 Randy Hees
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Dec 5, 2007
9:55 pm
I have a 1900 Master Car Painter's Association, Detroit White Lead Co book which includes a chip of "Russian Iron" paint. It includes other "jacket" paints as...
5142 Jim
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Dec 5, 2007
10:10 pm
So the "Russia iron" color was desirable enough by 1900 to become a manufactured color, not only something mixed up by shops. Thats great information. What...
5143 zul36@...
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Dec 5, 2007
10:55 pm
Mike-I'm not sure how long the plannished Iron scheme lasted. I think that by 1905 they had started to simplify the paint scheme when they began to replace...
5144 zul36@...
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Dec 5, 2007
10:58 pm
In a message dated 12/5/2007 1:18:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, woodburner@... writes: Are you planning to do the as built scheme? I'd be very...
5145 Jim
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Dec 5, 2007
11:31 pm
JC, Yes, "bright red" side rods - the quote directly from the spec. On an outside frame engine it must have been amazing to see. Sorry to miss you yesterday...
5146 zul36@...
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Dec 6, 2007
12:01 am
In a message dated 12/5/2007 3:31:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, woodburner@... writes: Yes, "bright red" side rods - the quote directly from the...
5147 LeeRainey@...
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Dec 6, 2007
12:55 am
In a message dated 12/5/2007 5:11:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, ... Russia iron. Lee Rainey (can't resist a joke) ************************************** Check ...
5148 Jim
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Dec 6, 2007
1:06 am
Oh, so its blue . . Jim (cant resist a joke either)...
5149 Randy Hees
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Dec 6, 2007
1:15 am
Its not entirely a surprise, but Lee's humorous answer is correct. It generally is a medium dark gray metallic color, just a hair darker than the russian iron...
5150 Jim
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Dec 6, 2007
1:21 am
Randy, neat to hear the color, and interesting that its a tad darker than your sample. Of course it would not be blue . . Jim...
5151 Randy Hees
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Dec 6, 2007
1:27 am
Jim wtote.... Oh, so its blue . . Jim (cant resist a joke either) Repeat after me... Grey, Not bluie, not blue, not blue Randy ,___ [Non-text portions of this...
5152 Jim
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Dec 6, 2007
1:35 am
Blue's reserved for: 1) trim of Porter engines on the San Joaquin & Sierra Nevada RR 2) a coach from the same 3) big honking Schenectady passenger engines. Got...
5153 Randy Hees
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Dec 6, 2007
1:40 am
You of course left out the small blue Brittish tank engine we all love... Are we having fun yet? Randy ... From: Jim To: TOCng@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday,...
5154 Geoffrey Hamway
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Dec 6, 2007
4:31 am
Jim, I'm actually modeling 1905, a couple of years after delivery. By then, photos suggest that the striping was gone, the lettering was changed and, in all...
5155 Jim
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Dec 6, 2007
5:11 am
Geoff, Its great to see someone modeling the D&RG in that era, so kudos for you. On average a builder's delivery paint would last up to four years with...
5156 Mike Conder
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Dec 6, 2007
5:12 am
Hmm .. I'll have to reflect on that one ... maybe hammer out another joke ... Mike "can't resist either" Conder Jim <woodburner@...> wrote: Oh, so...
5157 Mike Conder
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Dec 6, 2007
5:21 am
Thanks JC MC zul36@... wrote: Mike-I'm not sure how long the plannished Iron scheme lasted. I think that by 1905 they had started to simplify the paint...
5158 Mike Conder
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Dec 6, 2007
5:43 am
Thanks Jim. Mike Conder Jim <woodburner@...> wrote: Mike, I cant say for the D&RG shops, but planished iron can keep for a long time - many years,...
5159 Jim Eager
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Dec 6, 2007
3:37 pm
... Quite true. D&RG's standard gauge K-59 Mikes and P44 Pacifics came from Baldwin in 1912 and 1913 with planished iron jackets. Same for the L-62 and L-96...
5160 Randy Hees
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Dec 6, 2007
4:37 pm
Jim Eager wrote: At the very least, the war cut off supplies of Russia Iron, and painted jackets no doubt required less processing to manufacture than...
5161 Craig H
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Dec 6, 2007
6:13 pm
OK Randy... Remember when you loaned me your sample years ago and how I took it to my local paint shop to have it color matched? That color came out ...
5162 Jim
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Dec 6, 2007
7:51 pm
Jim, Thanks for the details of the later D&RG engines with planished iron jackets. Its great to see examples. My own research has been mostly looking at the...
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