Hi All, Thank You for being here! list rules ... 1. *Friendliness first* - this is a public list, avoid attacking anyone - emails sting so easily. be kindly...
TEFLChina@yahoogroups...
Feb 2, 2005 3:38 am
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Hello Alison, Currently, I teach at a California university and have many international students. I asked one of them about this issue and here is her reply. ...
David Mc Daniel
djmcdaniel@...
Feb 2, 2005 7:22 am
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... What I have is a complete video set from recording from the TV. It can be bought on video from wherever you buy these things I guess...from China you would...
... Reply: Don't feel too bad Stephanie. I think an American would fare no better if the test were U.K. based. You are correct also about spelling. There are...
Thanks for asking your students, David! As your student mentioned, students need to have this money in the bank before going abroad. My students in China are...
Stephanie, your English is quite good. Don't feel bad. I suggest you just keep practicing and perhaps you could spend some time in the States. Failing that,...
Thanks Stephanie, The test should be culturally neutral. But if one should choose, better to go with American English unless you need a local UK slant....
... I just tried Test A 10,000 level and scored only 83%! I was shocked! I discovered it is culturally bound to the US and US spelling only is accepted!...
Hello Tom! If 60% of speakers use American English, do we just ignore the other 40%? I do not think it is "reasonable" as it penalises non American English...
Stephanie Noke
araxy@...
Feb 3, 2005 10:03 am
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Dave! Thank you so much! I will give you a spoon next time I see you!!! For others on this list, please be aware that Dave is a big stirrer in all senses of...
Stephanie Noke
araxy@...
Feb 3, 2005 10:04 am
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Last night, I was asked to give a presentation on building motivation in classroom and assessing student progress at mid/high school and university levels. ...
... Yes Steph... And Dave might have failed dismally in the test if he had have spelt 'practicing' in the way that he did in the context he used it! Perhaps ...
I'm with Stephanie on this. What is reasonable about "center" vis "centre"? Every other form of the word requires the "r" in the place where the "reasonable US...
Michael Stanley
apartment308@...
Feb 4, 2005 9:27 am
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Alison, I wish I could answer your students' questions but I haven't been to China yet and I don't know the process or processes available there. The student I...
David Mc Daniel
djmcdaniel@...
Feb 4, 2005 9:28 am
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... better to ... 60% of ... American ... I don't think US English has much of an edge as regards spelling. Noah Webster's reforms were not all taken up in the...
Thanks Stephanie, Let me guess. You're British. I can tell. You use the spelling "penalises" which my MS Word processor says is misspelled. American ...
Hi, I'm not sure at what level you'd use these, but I was googling and found : Grimm's Fairy Tales This book contains 209 tales collected by the brothers...
nevin@...
Feb 5, 2005 2:43 am
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Allison and Daniel The expectation is that a foreign student will have their finances in order before coming. However, with that said, most foreign affairs...
Hi Tom! Yes, British and proud of it but also an Aussie and a Kiwi (by citizenship) and proud of that too! Is China an area where a UK accent is spoken? That...
Stephanie Noke
araxy@...
Feb 5, 2005 2:45 am
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... for that phoneme. Shame on you for deleted the part of my message that says if one is in an area where UK accent is spoken it may be better to use UK. ...
Hi David, Thank you so much for your reply and offer to look into the matter further. My students are from lower-class backgrounds, so they're looking into...
Dear Dick, I couldn't agree more. I think it is reprehensible for any of us to think that one strain, dialect or variation, whether British, Aussie, Kiwi, or ...
Chris Feher
agiantone@...
Feb 5, 2005 5:30 pm
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"I then usually assess their proficiency by re-recording their spoken English after 5 months of training and compare with the original recording at the...
MODERATOR NOTE: Just in case anyone is wondering, let me add to Dave's comment (below) that this is a free website. - Karen ... "RubiStar is a tool to help...
Some associates returning to teaching duties in China this summer and fall have a two part question. Associates returning for teaching duties this Summer and...
<<What kind of acquisition can you detect?>> This is not a method of detecting total acquisition; Rather, it is a method of assessing proficiency, much like...
James, My understanding of the question ... was: What kind of elements of language are you measuring/assessing and how are you measuring/assessing them in...
As Hamlet oft pondered, "To teach Grammar or to not teach Grammar, that is the question?!" Debating the merits of teaching grammar is a favorite pastime for...
James >> In my opinion, if, for the sake of argument, a typical college freshman's spoken English proficiency stands at 20% if 100% means native level...
<<<was: What kind of elements of language are you measuring/assessing and how are you measuring/assessing them in order to determine progress/improvement...
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