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Re: (teach) English Grammar

Dave Nevin wrote:
students in Beijing told me there is an oral test but only those with the
highest grades/results are invited to take it.

I imagine it's an extra qual for those who want to prove how good they are, like
one of mine who passed CET6 while at high school.

I'll email her and ask if how it's done.
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My comment:
that would definitely be interesting to know about. I have heard of this in
theory and have never met any student who took a TEM oral English test. I guess
that would be examined by Chinese teachers anyway and therefore not necessarily
up to international standards, perhaps... I wait with (almost) bated breath...

Russ Taylor


 

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Dear all, I have a couple of questions regarding English Grammar: 1. Which is the most authoritative academic publication (The Bible) of English Grammar? Some...
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Grammar for Dummies. Why? The examples are funny. It is used by businesses in the USA. You can buy it in WalMart or Office Depot. You do not have to order it...
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Stefan Penchev asks how we teach grammar.  Those who sense the need to teach grammar usually demonstrate a need for logical order.  Unfortunately, grammar...
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... Mert, you know very well that even Chinese learners who have been taught by old style Chinese teachers who are walking grammar books do not approach...
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The big difference between internalization thru understanding and rote memorization is a subtle one.  It's an important one too.  When 'cramming', or...
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... I would think that their formal grammar training from Chinese English teachers coupled with some real-world application in conversation with native English...
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Stefan Penchev asked about "the most authoritative academic publication (The Bible) of English Grammar." I wouldn't describe the following two books as...
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... Yes, especially in composition classes, but I usually avoid all but the simplest grammatical terms. It is relatively easy to explain grammar errors to...
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For students (intermediate and up) I'd suggest Raymond Murphy, English Grammar in Use. There are exercises and versions with or without answers and it's...
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5. Do you ever explain to your students the difference between Present Simple and Continuous, Past Simple and Present Perfect, Future with 'going to' and will...
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... I do have to wonder where you've been :-) I had classfuls of English majors in Beijing, could write 2-300 words with few mistakes...the better ones with...
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... I'm editing an East-West math education journal.  When I'm the first to edit, I usually give up after the first sentence - no plural endings on plural...
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... Close but no banana...but it did start with an A... ENGLISH GRAMMAR: EXPLANATIONS AND EXERCISES by Mary Ansell Second edition, copyright © 2000 ...
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I wasn't aware that anyone was making such a claim. This seems a specious argument. In China, as we are all aware, there are the CET exams and the TEM ones...
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Ria Smit wrote: May I point out two errors in your message Russ. 1. There are no grammar questions in any of the national or provincial exams. I have old...
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Ria said, "There are no grammar questions in any of the national or provincial exams. I have old papers and I can vouch for that. There is a lot of usage, that...
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Dave Kees wrote: I'm getting a little tired of all of this talk about Chinese teachers haveto teach the grammar to the students for them to pass the test. It...
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... Two years back, a Chinese friend (MTEFL- BFSU) got a job in a very good hi-school in BJ. She had to take a course on the new Chinese English textbook. I'm...
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... students in Beijing told me there is an oral test but only those with the highest grades/results are invited to take it. I imagine it's an extra qual for...
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Dave Nevin wrote: students in Beijing told me there is an oral test but only those with the highest grades/results are invited to take it. I imagine it's an...
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... Also there's a big range of English learners, from IELTS 3/4 in Macau tertiary English medium institutions up to IELTS 6.5/7... in Beijing, so each of us...
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... oral English test. I emailed but I think she's on holiday. I'll post a reply when she does... ... A lot of non-English-majors in Beijing spoke English...
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... A lot of non-English- majors in Beijing spoke English (those that spoke to me) as well as some English majors. and tourism majors wrote/spoke nearly as...
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Would it, perhaps, have anything to do with the fact that many English Majors are destined to be teachers of English and assume they will be teaching in a...
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Per Russ' question as to why Chinese teachers teach the way they they teach:   Teachers tend to teach the way they were taught.   Mert - Dr.M.L.Bland,...
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