Hello, I hope that this post is not a violation of synoptic-l protocol and do greatly apologize beforehand if it indeed is. I would like to first say thank you...
In his "The Case Against Q", Mark Goodacre addresses a couple of the better-known cases where Luke is commonly deemed to have a more primitive text than...
Ron, I looked through your examples very quickly, and could see your point in many of them, less so in others (no problem--as I said, I moved pretty quickly). ...
To: Synoptic In Response To: Ron Price On: Alternating (Mt/Lk) Primitivity From: Bruce Ron's point seems well taken. I agree with the people at one of last...
To: Synoptic In Response To: Chuck Jones On: Lukan Priofity (The Great Banquet) From: Bruce In responding to Ron Price's list of twelve passages which he...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG In Response To: Ron Price On: Alternating Primitivity [Mt/Lk] From: Bruce Chuck Jones has given a quick first impression of Ron's list of...
Bruce, While I've not read the book backing up the quote you share with us, I do have the strong reaction: of course it is two versions of the same parable....
... Bruce, True. For the list I gave was a list of Lukan verses, each of which *contains* a phrase which (for CrEdQ and Fleddermann) looks to be more likely to...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG, WSW In Response To: Ron Price On: Twelve Proposed Lk > Mt Passages (#1-2) From: Bruce Thanks to Ron for clarifying just what words he has...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG, WSW In Response To: Ron Price On: Twelve Proposed Lk > Mt Passages (#3-4) From: Bruce I guess I should apologize twice: once for the...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG, WSW In Response To: Ron Price On: Passages Supposedly Demonstrating Lk ? Mt (#5-6) Moving right along, CASE 5 (Lk 11:44 || Mt 18:27; woe...
... Bruce, There are two factors here. Firstly because elsewhere (in 11:39ff.) Luke retains detailed criticisms of some Jewish groups. This nullifies your ...
... Bruce, This is an easy one for anyone not constrained by their synoptic theory. We know Matthew is sufficiently credulous to believe that a person could ...
Ron, I'm not so sure this one is as easy as you suggest. Lk may have edited the story to focus on Nineveh's shocking repentance at the preaching of a Jewish...
... Bruce, It is only a more reliable indicator if the objective is to assess which of the two versions was the source of the other. When one sees evidence...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG; WSW In Response To: Ron Price On: Method From: Bruce Let me take a moment out from present discussion to remark that we are at least...
Bruce, I agree with you that looking at an entire passage is the most reliable indicator of directionality. So, if analysis shows that sometimes the...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG, WSW In Response To: Chuck Jones On: Instances of Lk > Mt From: Bruce Thanks to Chuck for his comment, which, for the benefit of certain ...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG, WSW In Response To: Ron Price On: Alternating [Lk/Mt] Primitivity #1-2 bis From: Bruce Just a few comments on Ron's rejoinders so far. ...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG, WSW In Response To: Ron Price On: Alternating [Mt/Lk] Primitivity (#4 bis) CASE 4 ( Lk 11:30 || Mt 12:40, the Sign of Jonah). I had...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG, WSW In Response To: Ron Price On: Alternative [Mt/Lk] Primitivity #5-6 bis From: Bruce CASE 5 (Lk 11:44 || Mt 23:27; woe to Pharisees). I...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG In Response To: Ron Price On: Alternating (MT/Lk) Primitivity #7-8 From: Bruce CASE 7 (Lk 12:11 || Mk 13:9f || Mt 10:19f, 24:9f), the...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG In Response To: Ron Price On: Alternating [Mt/Lk] Primitivity #9-10 From: Bruce CASE 9 (Lk 13:20-21 || Mt 13:33, no Mk; parable of the...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG In Response To: Ron Price On: Alternating [Mt/Lk] Primitivity (#11-12) From: Bruce CASE 11 (Lk 17:6, moving the sycamine tree). I had...
... Chuck, Your argument considers only how one version could have been edited and changed into the other. We should also consider which version is more likely...
I would have to disagree with the characterization of using "raven" versus "birds of the air" is a case of poetry becoming less specific. I think the author...
To: Synoptic In Response To: Ron Price On: The Sign of Jonah From: Bruce In responding to Chuck Jones, about the Sign of Jonah saying (#4 of the Twelve list),...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG, WSW In Response To: Chuck Jones On: Implications of Alternating Primitivity From: Bruce CHUCK: So, if analysis shows that sometimes the...
... Bruce, I agree with the distinction. But it doesn't apply in this case because my example of Luke retaining criticisms of Jewish groups in Lk 11:39ff., and...
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