In: "Mark and Q: A Study of the Overlap Texts" (Leuven, 1995), H.T.Fleddermann investigates all the texts in which there is overlap between Mark and 'Q'. He...
Ron Price wrote: Thus Fleddermann's finding that Mark is everywhere secondary to Q should be viewed with suspicion. There has to be something wrong here....
... Dave, But there is no textual evidence for such a 'proto-Mark', nor is it attested by early Christians. Thus proto-Mark, like Q, is hypothetical and ...
Ron Price writes: But there is no textual evidence for such a 'proto-Mark', nor is it attested by early Christians. Thus proto-Mark, like Q, is hypothetical...
This is an idea that came up in discussion with Bruce Brooks and Tim Lewis on another list. Luke's "Q" section seems to be dependent on Matthew. Mark Goodacre...
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... Great! ... sayings source.<< 'Splain why. Is there a rule that one is likely to rearrange a saying source, but not likely to rearrange the order of sayings...
Dave: This is interesting. I certainly like the observation that much of the "LukeQ" material looks Matthean (though note substantial modifications as in the...
... sayings source.<< 'Splain why. Is there a rule that one is likely to rearrange a saying source, but not likely to rearrange the order of sayings embedded...
... Dave, But we don't need to propose that "Q" and Mark had the same author, nor that any forgery was involved. All we need to propose is that of the Double ...
... Dave, In spite of being within the travel narrative, Luke *did* place the text locally in Matthean order. For we have the following rough parallels: Mt...
Dave, As to your second question below, the answer is Mk, Mt and Lk. When the three overlap, Mk's order is followed some huge percentage of time (forgot the...
Ron, First of all, I think I would call Mt. 12:22-32 is the pericope in Matthew parallel to Mark 3:22-30, and Luke does use Matthew 12:22-32. Before this Luke...
That was Ken's question that I was quoting, (apparently without clarity). But thanks for the answer. Dave Gentile Sr. Systems Engineer/Statistician B.S./M.S....
... As to your second question below, the answer is Mk, Mt and Lk. When the three overlap, Mk's order is followed some huge percentage of time (forgot the...
... So you perceive a problem with Luke's "scattering" and back it up with an appeal to the authority of those who accept the 2DH? Let's take a look at what a...
Following Dave's logic here, would it not also be true to say that Luke most likely used not only the LXX OT, but also a hypothetical sayings source containing...
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... reasoning here that I tried and apparently failed to bring to your attention in my last post. So let me ask a few simple questions in return. Is"...
Ron, I have to admit, I had not carefully considered what would differentiate my idea from yours. Given that they are both versions of the 3SH, they are going...
... Dave, I don't think there is a good argument, for these two suppositions seem to me to be essentially incompatible. For in my opinion Mark's liberal ...
Ron Price wrote: For in my opinion Mark's liberal treatment of the basically Jewish sayings source is just what would be expected from his sharp criticisms of...
snip "We also know that sayings sources existed (Thomas)" snip There was a sayings source (Thomas), but we don't really know that it was any earlier than the...
... Dave, The most prominent is the story of Peter's denial which presents Peter as disloyal, but there are several other passages such as Mk 3:31-35 which ...
I wrote: Did you have a specific narrative example in mind? And Ron replied: The most prominent is the story of Peter's denial which presents Peter as ...
For any teachers out there: for those of you who have introduced the synoptic problem to students lately, on my blog http://sourcetheory.blogspot.com/ I have...
... meaning better. Does Luke regard the gospel of Matthew as an older source with better knowledge of actual events than Luke himself has? Or does Luke regard...
... Dave, As Christianity was born out of Judaism, and not the other way round, it seems to me more natural to see Mk 13:31 as a development of Q 16:17. ... ...
Ken wrote: You make a bunch of initial assumptions Dave: I'm sure I make some assumptions for simplification, although at least some of these have an empirical...
... round, it ... 16:17. ... That's reasonable. And, all else being equal, probably our first guess. But Christianity was also a fairly radical break from ...