As many of you know, a small number of witnesses to the text of Lk. 11:2 testify that the second petition in the Lukan version of the version of the LP read...
... How about another alternative? That these two versions are both original, but with different factions within the followers of Jesus? e.g., between the...
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David Mealand
D.Mealand@...
Nov 28, 2012 6:30 pm
Jeffrey, you have probably already seen Leaney, R., Nov.T. 1.2 (1956) 103-111. Far from recent, but it puts the case, and cites a lot of relevant evidence for...
Jeffrey, I don't have a USB handy to glance at the external evidence, but a look at the internal evidence would suggest "May your holy spirit come upon us and...
... I believe I have. But my copy of the article is buried somewhere! Jeffrey -- ... Jeffrey B. Gibson D.Phil. Oxon. 1500 W. Pratt Blvd Chicago, IL ...
There is a nice online summary of this variant in Wieland Willker's Luke volume of textual commentary, pages 295-296. He also cites the Leaney article as...
... Fascinating. Thanks! If the variant is original, it gives a new sense to the aim of the LP (keeping the disciples from apostasy) . And it shows, to my...
As Marcion has been mentioned WRT Lk 11:2, I think I should add this quote from Klinghardt, where he is investigating “the major examples where Luke seems to...
... Willker has been a sometimes member of the XTalk (and Synoptic-L?) email groups. Perhaps he can be enticed to comment. Bob Schacht Northern Arizona...
... I don't see how either of these points makes the case. A later text could either expand or abridge an earlier one (see Charlesworth The Lord's Paryer and...
Ken, By very, very quick count, Mt uses heaven just under 80 times to Lk's 25. Â I didn't check Mk because of its shorter overall length. Â Much of the...
Chuck, Ok. 80 is bigger than 25. And 80 is even more times greater than the 1 example I cited from Mk. 11.25. But could you explain what would suggest to you...
Ken, You and I have access to the same data. Â And I'm sure you're aware that a standard interpretation of data like this is that it is more likely that Mt...
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David Mealand
D.Mealand@...
Nov 30, 2012 10:40 am
Though I was not wholly persuaded by the 1956 article by Leaney, I was surprised at the range of evidence he cited in favour of Gregory of Nyssa's variant, and...
... I can't seem to locate the article in my files.. JSTOR has only the first page of it available. Does anyone here has a scan of it? Jeffrey -- ... Jeffrey...
There aren't any "You petitions or We petitions" in the prayers of Enoch and the Angel [found in 1 Enoch] either. The phrase "Hallowed be Thy name" occurs at...
I think it is very likely, Will. I am convinced that Jesus was an Enochian, not a Mosaic, Jew. I think little brother Jimmy entered the fray after the ...
The same argument would suggest that Marcion’s (shorter) version of the LP pre-dates the one in Lk, and if we had just Marcion’s gospel text (and not the...
Matthew, who was not competent in Hebrew or Aramaic, first used a Greek translation of an Aramaic source and "tweaked" it a bit to expand/explain certain...
"A little over a year ago, we helped put online <http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/from-desert-to-web-bringing-dead-sea.html> five manuscripts of the...
A Case for pMark LM Barr¨¦, PhD Literary criticism, or more specifically, composition criticism, is a valid
and necessary method of historical exegesis....
(I do not address the writer directly as no forename was supplied, contrary to the normal practice on this list.) Unless I've missed something, Barré's case...
... From: Dennis Goffin Date: 1/1/2013 3:19:04 AM To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com; gpg@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Synoptic-L] A case for pMark Ron, The...
Quick questions for LMB. 1. What is the nature and extent of your proficiency in Greek? 2. Are your views on the seams in GMark based upon an analysis of the...
1. A year of Koine Greek 2. Both English and Greek 3. Nothing. LM Barré ... From: Jgibson Date: 1/2/2013 6:28:36 AM To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com Subject:...
Ron, Excellent comments. This snip caught my eye due to its minimalism--you wrote, "Of course the gospel story is built on a core of historical events, but...
Ron, To expect that all Gospel sources should have patristic mention is
unreasonable and an argument from silence. I think you need to address my evidence as...
