As the person who started this hare running, I have to own up and admit that although I persuaded my wife to buy me Casey's book for my 86th birthday this...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
May 31, 2012 5:14 pm
... From: Dennis Goffin Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:35 AM To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Synoptic-L] The phrase bar-(e)nash(a) As the person...
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Dennis Goffin
dennis_goffin
May 31, 2012 9:33 pm
Jack:" he claimed himself many times, the "Son of Man" of Daniel and Enoch." Dennis: Correction. The unknown writer or writers of Mark claimed it of Jesus,...
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David Mealand
D.Mealand@...
May 31, 2012 9:36 pm
Jack offers a vigorous case for stage 1 of the tradition behind the gospels focusing on an apocalyptic son of man figure related to the Enochian traditions. It...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
May 31, 2012 11:12 pm
To: Synoptic In Response To: Jack Kilmon On: Son of Man From: Bruce In the course of yet another discussion of this term, we had: Jack: I do not think that the...
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Matson, Mark (Academic)
markmatsona
Jun 1, 2012 1:00 am
... While I agree with Markan priority, I would not say "it has been known" [speaking ex cathedra no less].... There are many scholars who still posit...
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Jgibson
jgibson000
Jun 1, 2012 1:11 am
... And even granting that Mark has been interpolated, isn't the issue real issue whether the SoM passages are interpolations. This cannot be decided by...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Jun 1, 2012 2:01 am
... From: Dennis Goffin Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:33 PM To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Synoptic-L] The phrase bar-(e)nash(a) Jack:" he claimed...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 1, 2012 2:22 am
To: Synoptic On: Markan Priority From: Bruce I had ventured to recall (without naming them) Lachmann (1835), Holtzmann (1863), and others who have established...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Jun 1, 2012 2:37 am
... From: E Bruce Brooks Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:12 PM To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Synoptic-L] The phrase bar-(e)nash(a) To: Synoptic In...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 1, 2012 3:54 am
To: Synoptic On: Son of Man From: Bruce Jack Kilmon knows a lot more about the Aramaic and Hebrew sources of the Synoptics than I do. How much of it is right I...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Jun 1, 2012 6:26 am
... From: E Bruce Brooks Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:54 PM To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Synoptic-L] The phrase bar-(e)nash(a) To: Synoptic ...
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Dennis Goffin
dennis_goffin
Jun 1, 2012 8:21 am
Jack: 13 I saw in the night-visions, and, behold, there came with the clouds of the sky one like a son of man (כבר אנש [kibar 'anash]), and he came even...
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Dennis Goffin
dennis_goffin
Jun 1, 2012 9:39 am
Hi Jack, I have the greatest sympathy with your position and I only wish I was equipped as you are to "follow the Aramaic". Having said that, I am far from...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Jun 2, 2012 3:56 am
... From: Dennis Goffin Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 4:35 AM To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Synoptic-L] The phrase bar-(e)nash(a) Hi Jack, I have...
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Dennis Goffin
dennis_goffin
Jun 2, 2012 6:00 am
Dear Jack, Thank you for going to so much trouble for me. You have been very kind. I have no problem with secondary literature; it is already...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Jun 2, 2012 4:14 pm
I understand Dennis, and no one places as high a value on primary evidence as I but I know you will agree that the farther one goes back in history, the rarer...
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David Cavanagh
dacavanagh
Jun 3, 2012 7:53 am
... If, as you suggest below, the original statement was thought to refer to a return of Jesus, and the evangelists increasingly saw this as a problem because...
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David Cavanagh
dacavanagh
Jun 3, 2012 7:55 am
... Dennis, When you say that the plain usage of "Son of Man" in Aramaic makes it impossible to regard it as titular (I think that is what you are saying? your...
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Dennis Goffin
dennis_goffin
Jun 3, 2012 9:25 am
I am saying, David, that Jesus could only have used it in the idiomatic Semitic sense in which the Aramaic & Hebrew phrases are used, as for example in Ezekiel...
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David Inglis
djino1
Jun 4, 2012 11:09 pm
I've just noticed the number of widows in Lk, compared with those in the other gospels: . Lk 2:37, 4:26, 7:12, 18:3-5, 21:2-3 . Mk 12:42-43...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 4, 2012 11:58 pm
To: Synoptic In Response To: David Inglis On: Widows From: Bruce David pointed out, suggestively, that Lk has 5 widows (1 in common with Mk), and Mt and Jn...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 5, 2012 1:04 am
To: Synoptic On: New Journal From: Bruce Speaking of publication, did I remember to report to this list (other than as a remote future prospect) the appearance...
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David Inglis
djino1
Jun 5, 2012 4:46 pm
Bruce suggests (below) that aLk has a 'poverty' agenda. If so, then we would expect to see this reflected in an increased number of references to the poor in...
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Matson, Mark (Academic)
markmatsona
Jun 5, 2012 6:09 pm
David: I think Bruce is correct in his assessment that "widows" fits within a broader concern Luke has for the poor. I think your listing below may under-rate...
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David Inglis
djino1
Jun 5, 2012 11:28 pm
Mark, I agree that in Lk there is a greater contrast between rich and poor, but I think that the focus in Lk is on the rich, not on the poor, and I think that...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 5, 2012 11:52 pm
To: Synoptic In Response To: David I On: The Rich in Luke From: Bruce David has suggested that Luke focuses not on the poor (as many including Goulder have...
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David Inglis
djino1
Jun 6, 2012 1:06 am
Thank you Bruce - you just emphasized the point I was trying to make. I didn't suggest that Lk had a positive attitude to the rich - far from it. I was just...
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Matson, Mark (Academic)
markmatsona
Jun 6, 2012 1:59 am
David: Oh, I agree that the emphasis is probably more "anti-rich" than "pro-poverty". Probably both approaches Luke's real underlying perspective, which is...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
Jun 6, 2012 2:29 am
... I can't help but think that Luke had in mind a particular bunch of rich folks. During the time he was compiling his gospel, Who was it? Roman officials?...
