Mark, Thanks for the dialogue. I wish I could have communicated better. Chuck ________________________________ From: "Matson, Mark (Academic)"...
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Stephen Carlson
scarlson_min...
Feb 22, 2012 6:27 pm
... I agree that John's gospel and Luke's birth narrative are constructed differently than the typical synoptic pericopae, but I'm one of those who in fact...
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David Mealand
D.Mealand@...
Feb 22, 2012 6:27 pm
There is a neglected issue which troubles me. There are a series of written texts in Greek, and it is commonly held that Matthew and Luke produced their texts...
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Chuck Jones
chuckjonez
Feb 22, 2012 6:33 pm
Wow. Rev. Chuck Jones Atlanta, Georgia _________________________ At any rate, I don't see any necessary connection between how a work is structured and the...
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Chuck Jones
chuckjonez
Feb 22, 2012 6:36 pm
Great questions and observations, David. Chuck ________________________________ From: David Mealand <D.Mealand@...> To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com Sent:...
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Stephen Carlson
scarlson_min...
Feb 22, 2012 7:03 pm
... Interesting questions, David. How does the example of Paul in 1 Cor 15 fit in? If I understand it, Paul received some traditions about the Last Supper...
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David Mealand
D.Mealand@...
Feb 22, 2012 7:33 pm
Though I temporarily excluded the other material that Matthew and Luke have, that does suggest that translation of synoptic material as a whole would seem to...
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Matson, Mark (Academic)
markmatsona
Feb 22, 2012 7:34 pm
David: Why must we assume the earliest stories were only Aramaic? Following Hengel, I would assume that Jerusalem to be sure, and Sephoris as well, were...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
Feb 22, 2012 7:39 pm
... Interesting questions. A lot depends on what we think about Mark: Was he a Judean or Galilean (in the geographical sense), or was he a Greek who came to...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Feb 22, 2012 9:06 pm
To: Synoptic (GPG) In Response To: Mark Matson On: Two Parables in Mt/Lk From: Bruce I had said that the directionality of these two parables (the Marriage...
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David Mealand
D.Mealand@...
Feb 22, 2012 9:18 pm
RE languages in use: I think allowance needs to made for the fact that people who provide, or have inscriptions provided for them, tend to be the more...
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David Inglis
djino1
Feb 22, 2012 9:50 pm
David M: “During the siege by the Romans, a centurion and ten of his men got left inside the city overnight, overheard the locals discussing their war plans,...
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David Mealand
D.Mealand@...
Feb 22, 2012 10:01 pm
Syriac texts of the NT are widely held to be translations from the Greek - a bit like getting Aristotle into Latin via Arabic in the Middle Ages though that...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Feb 22, 2012 10:09 pm
To: Synoptic (GPG) In Response to: David Mealand On: Greek in Galilee From: Bruce DAVID: Of course Greek was in use, especially in the upper echelons, and for ...
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Greg Crawford
southern_obs
Feb 23, 2012 7:41 am
Perhaps the occasional sprinkling of Aramaic words in the Gospels is testimony to their novelty. What would be the point of recording a few Aramaic words on ...
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Emmanuel Fritsch
archeboc
Feb 23, 2012 10:18 am
... We have doublets, Wiederaufnahmen, and so on in Mark. They are internal evidences for a conflation process of elder sources. ... If "constructed...
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Ronald Price
ron18price
Feb 23, 2012 10:28 am
... David, As far as the collection of sayings is concerned, my solution, centred around the logia, is set out in the diagram on the web page below. It is ...
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David Mealand
D.Mealand@...
Feb 23, 2012 12:06 pm
Perhaps those who are doubtful that Aramaic was widely spoken, written, and read, in the relevant region might tell us why Targums were needed and why they...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Feb 23, 2012 9:44 pm
... From: David Mealand Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:27 PM To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Synoptic-L] Sources and languages There is a...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Feb 23, 2012 10:02 pm
That Aramaic was the spoken language of the 95-98% of the 2nd temple populace that were illiterate is easily shown. I really don't understand why there are...
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Dennis
ddcanne
Feb 24, 2012 12:24 pm
Jack, you mention “misspelled Aramaic.” Where would one find evidence of standardized Aramaic spelling? What is the criteria for correct spelling versus...
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RSBrenchley@...
Feb 24, 2012 3:10 pm
<<Multilingualism is quite common in the Third World today; but one's native tongue is usually the language when at home. However, multilingualism does not ...
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RSBrenchley@...
Feb 24, 2012 3:11 pm
Sorry, I didn't sign that last. Regards, Robert Brenchley Birmingham UK [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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olugbenga olagunju
samuel200607
Feb 24, 2012 3:48 pm
language is dynamic, it changes over time. The language we speak today is different from the one spoken many years ago. ________________________________ From:...
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Matson, Mark (Academic)
markmatsona
Feb 24, 2012 5:47 pm
Robert: This is very helpful and would seem to support some of what I see in ancient palestine. Aramaic was surely a common language for most indigenous...
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David Inglis
djino1
Feb 24, 2012 5:53 pm
Given the possibility that there was written Aramaic material behind Mk (and I can’t see that the possibility can be ruled out), can any of the wording...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
Feb 24, 2012 6:20 pm
... But don't forget that "education" can happen in informal contexts, such as the marketplace, and the differences between Koine and classical Greek. Crossan...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Feb 24, 2012 8:13 pm
I agree with all you say here, Mark. My position is that Aramaic reconstruction is essential in understanding the vox Iesu. His audience were the downtrodden...
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Greg Crawford
southern_obs
Feb 24, 2012 9:20 pm
Robert, This is exactly my point. There is little use in talking of "the" language (singular) in such contexts. I have a Zimbabwean friend who speaks *two* ...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
Feb 24, 2012 11:05 pm
... I think what you're reaching for, here, when you refer "to hybrid," is what linguists call pidgins and creoles. If these existed only in oral form,...
