The traffic sometimes runs in the other direction. In *Excavating Q*, Kloppenborg cites *Thomas a*s counting against FH, specifically against Farrer's ...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 1, 2011 7:29 pm
To: Synoptic/GThomas, cc GPG Mark G recently inquired whether Gospel of Thomas studies have taken account of the Farrar Hypothesis (FH). The evidence seems to...
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Ronald Price
ron18price
Jun 2, 2011 9:23 am
Bruce Brooks wrote: ..... the failure of M Goulder to prove unidirectionality of common material between Mt and Lk - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 2, 2011 3:07 pm
On: FH and Thomas Bruce [Previously]: . . . the failure of M Goulder to prove unidirectionality of common material between Mt and Lk . . . Ron Price: While I...
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Ronald Price
ron18price
Jun 2, 2011 6:10 pm
... Bruce, Not the same at all. My statement contains an additional claim. For the aphorisms the dependence was bidirectional, and Goulder was often wrong. But...
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Jeff Peterson
jepetersonphd
Jun 2, 2011 10:08 pm
Goodacre's *Case Against Q* retrieves from Farrer an aspect of the "Marcan Priority without Q" theory that Goulder had jettisoned (or nearly so), viz., the...
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Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
Jun 3, 2011 2:35 am
It sounds to me like Jeff is here hypothesizing a kind of re-Farrerizing of Goulder, disrupting the clear uni-directionality that points from Farrer > Goulder...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 3, 2011 4:33 am
A propos the Mt/Lk relationship, we had, speaking of Lk: " Moreover, even in his use of Matthew, there are places where his redaction re-primitivizes under the...
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Jeff Peterson
jepetersonphd
Jun 3, 2011 5:23 am
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:33 PM, E Bruce Brooks ... perspective of FH: "Order in the Double Tradition and the Existence of Q," in the volume *Questioning Q*...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 3, 2011 6:10 pm
To: Synoptic (Cc: GPG) On the question of Lukan order, we had: Jeff Peterson: On this point I can recommend an article by your scribe from the perspective of...
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Jeff Peterson
jepetersonphd
Jun 3, 2011 7:53 pm
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:10 PM, E Bruce Brooks ... Not if one allows a role for oral tradition like that I cited from personal experience in my earlier post:...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 3, 2011 9:33 pm
To: Synoptic (Cc: GPG) Jeff Peterson: . . . [the Synoptic Problem is not insoluble as a set of unidirectional arrows] if one allows a role for oral tradition...
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David Mealand
D.Mealand@...
Jun 5, 2011 12:04 pm
Bruce wrote-------------- Bruce: Needs proof. I would prove it this way: gThos 47:3 = Lk 5:39, nobody after drinking old wine wants new wine. This violently...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 5, 2011 3:25 pm
To: Synoptic (cc: GPG) My explanation of Lk 5:39 (as an anti-Marcionite addition to Lk) seems to have been too much for some recipients, as witness: "Phew! And...
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Ronald Price
ron18price
Jun 22, 2011 11:02 am
I had just been admiring Drury because he is among the few who take the Parable of the Vineyard as a Markan composition, and he even casts doubt on the...
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Derek Leman
derek4messiah
Jun 22, 2011 12:54 pm
Since when is it a requirement of parables that the analogies be perfect (i.e., lost coins repenting)? How is it a sign of editing? If that were so, most...
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Ken Olson
kaolson101
Jun 22, 2011 2:14 pm
... Then I (re-)read one of his comments on the lost sheep and lost coin ("The Parables in the Gospels", p.141). He points out that Luke declares the "one ...
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Chuck Jones
chuckjonez
Jun 22, 2011 2:28 pm
Dr. Crossan differentiates between an original saying from Jesus and the way the gospellers suggest a meaning for their readers by (1) the other teachings they...
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Ronald Price
ron18price
Jun 22, 2011 5:41 pm
... Ken, Thanks for this. Or perhaps it refers to the whole Lukan parable, which equally supports your explanation. ... Yes. But to my mind this assessment is...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 23, 2011 7:32 pm
To: Synoptic (CC: GPG) On: Three Parables in Lk 15 These have come up recently via Drury's comment, he being an enthusiast of the Goulder analysis, and for...
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Ken Olson
kaolson101
Jun 23, 2011 11:29 pm
E. Bruce Brooks wrote: "for purposes of the present survey, Beare is intuitively right" Bruce, The purposes of your survey are unknown to me, but I think...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 24, 2011 2:01 am
To: Synoptic (Ken Olson) / Cc: GPG Ken: The purposes of your survey are unknown to me, Bruce: I thought it was clearly stated, but I can repeat it. I am ...
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Ken Olson
kaolson101
Jun 24, 2011 12:24 pm
Bruce, ... incongruities in Matthew's Great Supper are far more explicable on the hypothesis that Matthew is recasting the Wicked Tenants alone than that he...
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Ronald Price
ron18price
Jun 24, 2011 3:42 pm
The "hate" in Lk 14:26 is usually taken as original, with Matthew's "love ... more than" in Mt 10:37 as a softening of the saying. If this is so, then the 2ST...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 24, 2011 4:56 pm
To: Synoptic (Ken Olson rescriptus) Ken: I am arguing that my intuition tells me that the trajectory Wicked Tenants=> Matthew's Supper=> Luke's Supper...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 24, 2011 5:19 pm
To: Synoptic / Cc: GPG Ron Price has argued that Lk 14:26 "and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters" is...
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Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
Jun 24, 2011 5:33 pm
Two quick observations, Bruce. First, appeals to what is "obvious" or "intuitive" are just not going to get very far where there are detailed arguments...
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Ken Olson
kaolson101
Jun 24, 2011 6:14 pm
... Mt 22:1-14 (Marriage Feast), and (2) Mt 21:33-46 is the sole source of Lk's Supper story, Lk 14:16-24. I would prefer confirmation before commenting. Is ...
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Ken Olson
kaolson101
Jun 24, 2011 8:32 pm
Ron Price wrote: "Is there any support for Goulder's apparently strange argument?" ... So Goulder's general point is that the thesis of uniform progressive...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Jun 25, 2011 2:23 am
To: Synoptic MarkG: Second, on your remarks about hiring an assistant to go through Michael Goulder's Luke, you are in luck! There is a book that did this for...
