Bruce wrote: I would say, to speak to some of Keith's directionality questions, that the course of Synoptic evolution, including the several strata of it which...
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Chuck Jones
chuckjonez
Feb 24, 2009 4:40 pm
Leonard, Might the theological point be that Jesus was an ordinary person who felt human emotions? Rev. Chuck Jones Atlanta, Georgia ...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Feb 24, 2009 5:31 pm
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG In Response To: Several On: Jesus and Disciples From: Bruce DENNIS (Responding to Keith): . . . Given that Mark is the earliest gospel and...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Feb 24, 2009 6:00 pm
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG In Response To: Leonard On: Jesus and Disciples From: Bruce This won't take much time. LEONARD: The idea of Matthew and Luke independently...
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Adam Crumpton
accrumpton
Feb 24, 2009 7:07 pm
With Nicene Christianity reaching its creedal conclusions of the fully divine, fully human Christ, how certain can we be of a trajectory toward divinization,...
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Chuck Jones
chuckjonez
Feb 24, 2009 7:09 pm
Leonard made me curious as to whether Mk records emotions of other persons in addition to Jesus. Here are the results of a very quick scan. Depending on...
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Chuck Jones
chuckjonez
Feb 24, 2009 7:13 pm
Adam, It is often pointed out that with only a single, arguable exception, authentic Paul never describes Christ as a pre-existent, incarnate god. He...
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Matson, Mark (Academic)
markmatsona
Feb 24, 2009 8:35 pm
You are on to something. Those who have read Larry Hurtado's LORD JESUS CHRIST will resonate with your comments. And I think also raise questions about the...
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Matson, Mark (Academic)
markmatsona
Feb 24, 2009 9:09 pm
Chuck: Have you read Hurtado's various books (notably Lord Jesus Christ). He argues that there is more here to Paul than you might suggest. Of course the...
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Dennis Dean Carpenter
ddcanne
Feb 24, 2009 9:33 pm
There is a huge problem in any honest study of "Paul." Darrell Doughty, in "Forum" 5.2, summed it up best when he wrote, "Unlike any other field in the study...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Feb 24, 2009 11:09 pm
... The real question is what was pre existence language used to assert? Was it something about ontology or significance?. When you look at what it was in...
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Chuck Jones
chuckjonez
Feb 25, 2009 1:51 am
Mark, The question of conflating pre-existence with divinity is an insightful one. If we think of "divinization" as something that followers do to their...
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Maluflen@...
Feb 25, 2009 2:22 am
I don't think so, Chuck, do you? I don't have the impression that Mark is concerned with a christology in his sources?that is already too high for him, and...
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Maluflen@...
Feb 25, 2009 2:36 am
What no one including Leonard has ever explained is why (on the assumption that Mk was later than Mt/Lk) there should be, in the Markan community or any other,...
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stephanie fisher
adogona
Feb 25, 2009 3:06 am
Bruce, I don't understand why you can't make sense of the 'anger' reading. Jesus is not "gruffly rebuking" the man to be healed, he is expressing anger at the...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Feb 25, 2009 3:14 am
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG In Response To: Mark Matson On: Divinization From: Bruce MARK: Basically Hurtado shows, I think pretty effectively, that worship of Jesus...
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Chuck Jones
chuckjonez
Feb 25, 2009 1:38 pm
Leonard, I fielded a brief, failed effort to suggest to the group that Mk used sources rather than wrote from scratch (I kept waiting for you to weigh in!)....
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Chuck Jones
chuckjonez
Feb 25, 2009 1:44 pm
Do we assume all communities thought the same thing at the same time about these matters? That they evolved at the same pace? That no community rejected...
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Dennis Dean Carpenter
ddcanne
Feb 25, 2009 4:46 pm
Truer words were never spoken, Chuck. I might add, but you might disagree, just because a document was accepted as authoratative doesn't say anything about...
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Chuck Jones
chuckjonez
Feb 25, 2009 7:13 pm
I totally agree. The rise of authoritative documents led to consolidation of interpretation. That doesn't necessarily mean it was consolidation around the...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Feb 26, 2009 10:44 pm
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG In Response To: Chuck Jones On: Varieties of Christianity From: Bruce That Christians in general developed increasing respect for Jesus...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Mar 1, 2009 5:02 am
To: GPG Cc: Synoptic; WSW On: Authorial Luke [L3] From: Bruce CONVENTIONS: K = many links to Mark (k = few); T/t ditto Matthew; B/b ditto Both; X/x all. L = no...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Mar 1, 2009 8:03 am
To: GPG In Response To: Jeffery Hodges On: OT in John From: Bruce Jeffery had mentioned (from memory) that Jn 13:18 (quoting Ps 12:9b) is closer to the...
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Horace Jeffery Hodges
jefferyhodges
Mar 1, 2009 10:02 am
Bruce wrote: "Jeffery had mentioned (from memory) that Jn 13:18 (quoting Ps 12:9b) is closer to the Masoretic than to the Septuagint text." I wouldn't go...
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Maluflen@...
Mar 1, 2009 2:01 pm
BRUCE wrote: Some adoption from Mt, some free composition to develop the Mt precedent, and a high-handed redo of the ethnically limited Mt genealogy. There are...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Mar 1, 2009 9:46 pm
To: NLN Cc: WSW, Synoptic On: Directionality Between Analects and Jung Yung From: Bruce We had a question arise in the small discussion which brings up the...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Mar 5, 2009 6:22 am
To: Synoptic Cc: WSW On: Crediting an E-List From: Bruce I had asked, on 8 Feb 2009, "A propos, has anyone ever cited, or seen anyone else cite, in scholarly...
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Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson_min...
Mar 5, 2009 6:29 am
... Apologies for missing your post of Feb. 8, but Synoptic-L has been cited (at least?) twice in NT literature. In particular: Robert A. Derrenbacker, Jr....
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Mar 5, 2009 7:21 am
Stephen, Thanks for the references. For those who may not have their back JBL issues handy, here is the footnote on p335 of Michael Goulder's piece, which...
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Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson_min...
Mar 5, 2009 1:08 pm
... Agreed that the "blizzard of precise URL's is obviously unwieldy." I have toyed with the idea that archived mailing lists ought to be cited like ...
