... Chuck, Mark et al., Chuck seems here to be saying that the synoptics are superficially similar, and if so, then I would have to agree. However at a deeper...
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stephanie fisher
adogona
Feb 2, 2009 12:23 am
I find it unnecessary to suggest that I find Casey's arguments "terribly convincing" and that they are clear is a "stretch", and I find insulting the...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
Feb 2, 2009 1:08 am
... Engaging with their arguments is what we are here for. We are not "the academy," and everyone here speaks only for himself/herself. Someone who says they...
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stephanie fisher
adogona
Feb 2, 2009 1:17 am
I was quoting Matson and the "academy" was his term. Stephanie Fisher Nottingham ... From: Bob Schacht To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 02,...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Feb 2, 2009 5:31 am
To: WSW Cc: Synoptic; GPG In Response To: Anonymous On: Authorial Consistency From: Bruce It is possible to define a humanist as someone who never took, or...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Feb 2, 2009 7:31 am
To: GPG Cc: Synoptic On: Future Statements in Mk [M2] From: Bruce [I imagine these notes as being written in the year 1837, when Markan Priority in one form or...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Feb 2, 2009 9:09 am
To: GPG Cc: Synoptic On: Interpolated and Future Passages in Mk [M3] From: Bruce I had earlier collected 10 probably interpolated passages in Mk [M1], and ...
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Dennis Goffin
dennis_goffin
Feb 2, 2009 10:20 am
Bruce, Bravo ! I congratulate you on a "tour de force" which I think is absolutely brilliant and seems to me totally justified in its conclusions. Dennis ... ...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Feb 4, 2009 4:58 am
To: GPG [Cc: Synoptic; see at end] Repeating: Mine of 11 Jun 2008 On: Satan From: Bruce A propos the current Satan discussion [on GPG], I was moved by a...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Feb 4, 2009 8:08 am
To: GPG Cc: Synoptic On: Poverty in Mk [M4] From: Bruce In this series of [M] notes so far, I have reached a twofold division of material in Mk, roughly early...
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Maluflen@...
Feb 4, 2009 10:04 pm
Maybe for the same reason that we use "Satan" and not "devil" in liturgical texts, such as "Do you renounce Satan?" Leonard Maluf Blessed John XXIII National...
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stephanie fisher
adogona
Feb 5, 2009 12:08 am
I find this extraordinary: "The other day I was looking at a chart of the major Synoptic theories. And I was struck by the almost opposite diagrams that...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Feb 5, 2009 1:45 am
To: Synoptic On: Theory Types From: Bruce To my suggestion, that the great majority of those who hold opinions about the matter prefer either (1) a Synoptic...
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Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson_min...
Feb 5, 2009 3:45 am
... I wrote that over ten years ago. Since then, William Farmer and David Dungan had died and Mark Goodacre moved to Duke. John Kloppenborg and his...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Feb 5, 2009 4:39 am
Stephen, Thanks for the update, with its wry implication that Kloppenborg's opposition identifies the major alternative to his own preferred solution. I am...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
Feb 5, 2009 5:56 am
... Stephen, I'm not sure I understand the logic here. Is it * If no one's beating it anymore, then it must really be a dead horse * If someone is beating it,...
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stephanie fisher
adogona
Feb 5, 2009 7:07 am
My suggestion is really that there are alot of "active NT specialists" who think that the solution to the synoptic problem is more complicated than any of the...
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David Mealand
D.Mealand@...
Feb 5, 2009 11:28 am
Circa 48 CE price of bread in Jerusalem rose to 13 times what it normally was. (Jos. Ant.3.15 320). [Puts mid 2008 agri-commodity price rises in the shade!] ...
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Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson_min...
Feb 5, 2009 1:25 pm
... I'm just appealing to Kloppenborg et al.'s behavior as evidence that they perceive Farrer to be the (or, a?) main alternative. None of what I posted is to...
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Chuck Jones
chuckjonez
Feb 5, 2009 3:47 pm
Bruce, Sorry to take one more stab at this, but I'm doing so because you never responded to this observation: Implicit in posts from you and Mark Matson,...
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Matson, Mark (Academic)
markmatsona
Feb 5, 2009 5:21 pm
Actually, Chuck, my argument was not that Mark has no sources. (though I don't think he had written sources because I think Mark is an original composition)....
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Chuck Jones
chuckjonez
Feb 5, 2009 5:44 pm
Mark, I wonder if you could give me an example of a passage that appears in the triple tradition in which the Markan version demonstrates an oral source...
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Matson, Mark (Academic)
markmatsona
Feb 5, 2009 8:19 pm
One can't exemplify this specifically, Chuck. It has to work back to the solution to the synoptic problem. Hence each of the solutions to the problem could...
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Chuck Jones
chuckjonez
Feb 5, 2009 8:55 pm
Mark, This is very helpful. More to come when I have some time. Chuck ... From: Matson, Mark (Academic) <MAMatson@...> Subject: RE:...
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stephanie fisher
adogona
Feb 5, 2009 11:46 pm
Mark Matson (Academic) I'm not sure why that was directed to me as well. I don't know what you mean by "significant". While Goulder was hardline in his...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Feb 6, 2009 12:09 am
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG In Response To: Chuck Jones On: Synoptic Theory Types From: Bruce CHUCK (addressing myself): Implicit in posts from you and Mark Matson,...
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Jeff Peterson
jepetersonphd
Feb 6, 2009 12:18 am
Austin Farrer held that Matthew had sources for the teaching he incorporated into the Marcan narrative (apparently oral, though I don't recall him ever ruling...
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Matson, Mark (Academic)
markmatsona
Feb 6, 2009 12:30 am
Stephanie (sorry for the spelling of your last name): I included you only because earlier on this thread you commented (and I think correctly) that any...
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poirier
johncpoirier
Feb 6, 2009 12:57 am
Steph, For some reason, Farrer proponents (of which I am one) have stayed away from the question of Matthew's source(s) for the sayings. A few years ago, I...
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stephanie fisher
adogona
Feb 6, 2009 1:00 am
Yes I understand that but I don't recall any 'Farrer' theorist ever conceding "written sources", not counting pre Jesus Jewish scripture. They may not have...
