Wieland, I'm interested, but I come under your category (b); I am still checking my references to see whether I can get you a major, but doing so against ...
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Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson_min...
Aug 1, 2005 12:05 pm
... This was discussed in E. P. Sanders, "The Argument from Order and the Relationship Between Matthew and Like," New Testament Studies 15 (1968-69): 249-61;...
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Steff Seven
adogona
Aug 1, 2005 12:40 pm
I have been re-reading Sander's examples since Wieland sent that reminder earlier this evening (here). Neirynck (1973 ETL 49:784-815) has attempted to refute...
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Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
Aug 1, 2005 1:29 pm
I am a bit too busy to comment on this interesting question at the moment, but let me recommend Jeffrey Peterson, "Order in the Double Tradition and the...
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Richard Richmond
rickr2889
Aug 2, 2005 1:37 am
consistent corrections made to a text of Mark that pre-dated what we have today. SUV and META emendations to the text or Mark At several points in the text of...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Aug 2, 2005 2:18 am
... That a word does not appear elsewhere in GMark is a strange criterion for declaring that a verse or phrase which contains it is "questionable". Is...
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Richard Richmond
rickr2889
Aug 2, 2005 1:38 pm
... that ... narrative. ... text ... narrative. ... strange criterion ... it is ... that says that if he ... once? More ... only once that if ... In any...
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Richard Richmond
rickr2889
Aug 2, 2005 3:09 pm
Many times in the course of posting to this list I have encountered opposition to the overall assumption that there is a clearly discernable narrative ...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Aug 2, 2005 8:42 pm
... Never said you did. ... But you've not demonstrated that this is what is done in GMark with the use of META and/or SUN. ... But you have not...
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Wieland Willker
blende7
Aug 3, 2005 6:11 am
... I have read the article now and have to conclude that there are NO "major agreements in order" of Mt and Lk against Mk. Sanders lists four instances, all...
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Richard Richmond
rickr2889
Aug 3, 2005 2:44 pm
Jeffrey wrote: Curious isn't it, that anyone from a pro Petrine camp would interpolate Mk. 1:13b allegedly to make Mark more pro Petrine, but leave untouched ...
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Richard Richmond
rickr2889
Aug 3, 2005 3:19 pm
... and Lk ... from ... Like," New ... I have read the article now and have to conclude that there are NO "major agreements in order" of Mt and Lk against Mk. ...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Aug 3, 2005 3:30 pm
... I read them. But I didn't buy your argument or your conclusions. ... Not properly cited? Lacking in scholarly form? I don't know how you can say this...
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Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson_min...
Aug 3, 2005 3:46 pm
... All discussions of one's hidden agenda should be done OFF-LIST. This is a scholarly forum. Stephen Carlson -- Stephen C. Carlson...
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Richard Richmond
rickr2889
Aug 3, 2005 4:12 pm
Jeffrey wrote: In any event, I suggest that you read the texts of Ps. 91, T.Iss. 7.7, T.Benj. 5:2, and T. Naph. 8.4 and then tell me whether your claim that...
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John C. Poirier
johncpoirier
Aug 3, 2005 5:01 pm
... Rick, This is not how Ockham's razor cuts in this case: the lack of Matthew's and Luke's agreements in order against Mark only means that Mark is the ...
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John Lupia
jlupia2
Aug 3, 2005 5:22 pm
... Lieb Wieland: This is not exactly correct. Lk's citation of Isaias is not the identical word for word quote as is found in Mk. So, even this does not...
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Richard Richmond
rickr2889
Aug 3, 2005 6:16 pm
John C. Poirier wrote: This is not how Ockham's razor cuts in this case: the lack of Matthew's and Luke's agreements in order against Mark only means that Mark...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Aug 3, 2005 6:29 pm
... Just for the record, I asked my question because I was unaware that I **had** any particular agenda, and was interested in knowing what this was perceived...
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John C. Poirier
johncpoirier
Aug 3, 2005 6:32 pm
... I know all about it, but it's good to have it stated like this. ... No it doesn't. (See below.) ... That grammar school teacher (whether he's the one...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Aug 3, 2005 6:41 pm
... I hardly think this is the case. But be that as it may, remember please that this is a scholarly list. So I should hardly be faulted for using here --...
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Jim West
drjewest
Aug 3, 2005 6:48 pm
... *raises hand*--- pick me, pick me- I know..... That said, I think it fair to say that most folk working in Synoptic studies would know right away what...
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Chuck Jones
chuckjonez
Aug 3, 2005 7:33 pm
I believe the conclusion of that Mk was a source for both Mt and Lk is based on disagreement in passages common only to Mt and Lk, not on passages in the...
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Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson_min...
Aug 3, 2005 7:40 pm
... I would expect active contributors to either know these references (to the Testaments of Issachar, Benjamin, and Naphtali, respectively) or know where to...
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Richard Richmond
rickr2889
Aug 3, 2005 8:08 pm
John C. Poirier wrote: That grammar school teacher (whether he’s the one named by E. A. Abbott or someone else) would be wrong. If A and C agree in order...
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Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
Aug 3, 2005 8:36 pm
... The difficulty here is that you are invoking a proposed solution to the problem (that Mark and Q overlap) as part of your statement of the data. Mark-Q...
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Richard Richmond
rickr2889
Aug 3, 2005 9:15 pm
It seems apologies are in order. My memory is not as acute as all those on the list apparently. I studied with Dr James Charlesworth 2 years at Princeton...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Aug 3, 2005 10:01 pm
... Not to beat a dead horse, or seem callous in the face of your apology, but the abbreviations Charlesworth used/uses are not "his". In any case, the...
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Richard Richmond
rickr2889
Aug 3, 2005 11:00 pm
And if you'd actually looked at the theme of "being with wild beasts and ministering angels" that appears and is prominent in T.Iss. 7.7, T.Benj. 5:2, and T....
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Richard Richmond
rickr2889
Aug 4, 2005 12:24 am
Just a point of clarity here, the original post that brought about this discussion "with the wild beasts" in Mark 1:13" began with post 130 "Consider the uses ...
