Can anyone here tell me what the Griesbachian position is (let alone if there here is one, or only one) on the origin of Matt. 4:1-11? What source or sources,...
Sorry, I forgot to send this "reply all." ... From: maluflen@... To: jgibson000@... Sent: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 5:07 pm Subject: Re: [Synoptic-L] the...
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Jun 10, 2008 9:16 pm
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I too forgot to hits reply to all. Jeffrey ... Subject: Re: [Synoptic-L] the sources of Matt 4:1-11 according to Griesbachians Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008...
I'm working on writing up an over view of the positions that scholars have taken with respect to the question of what source or sources (f any) stand behind...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG, WSW In Response To: Leonard M (and thus Jeffrey G) On: Matthew's Temptation Narrative (Mt 4:1-11) From: Bruce It seems to me that...
I know most of you think of Mark 1:12-13 as a source for Matt 4:1-11, which makes eminent sense if you assume Markan priority. I would like you, if...
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Jun 11, 2008 12:45 pm
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With apologies for cross posting. Does anyone here have an English abstract or summary of the following articles by W. Wilkens? "Die Versuchung Jesu nach...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG; WSW In Response To: Leonard On: Markan Priority From: Bruce Leonard: I know most of you think of Mark 1:12-13 as a source for Matt ...
... You might want to note that much of what was being said in 1907 had already been said and articulated some 75 years earlier Strauss in his /The Life of...
Hi Jeffrey, I realize that this partially overlaps with other messages in the same and related threads. Your summary survey looks about right to me, though I...
Bruce, you miss the point of my opening sentence. The background of my comment would be clear to regular readers of this list. I have been arguing for a long...
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Jun 11, 2008 7:44 pm
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... I appreciate this discussion. The one additional wrinkle I have to comment on is that in your first paragraph, you focus on "Matthew creatively expanding...
... HI Bob. You may be forgetting that I don't believe in Q. If one has Q, then the closeness of Luke to Matthew here means that Matthew is not doing any...
To: Synoptic In Response To: Leonard On: Synoptic Theory From: Bruce Leonard: Bruce, you miss the point of my opening sentence. Bruce: [For the record,...
... Of course! I was using that as an indication of the willingness of Biblical Scholarship to accept the idea of otherwise unknown written sources. ... Thanks...
Bruce again misunderstands my position, which, again, would be clear -- I hope -- to one who has been following the discussions on Synoptic-L for a number of...
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Jun 12, 2008 12:19 pm
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... I don't believe my comment about Markan priorists and their presuppositions when?commenting on?individual Gospel pericopes is dismissive in the least. It...
... argument based on trajectory (here it obviously has some appeal)-- but as a specific argument in favor of Mark's priority to Matthew in this part of his...
To: Synoptic In Response To: Dave Gentile On: Synoptic Theory From: Bruce As a metacomment on previous discussion, Dave had said: Dave: I have an idea of where...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG In Response To: Leonard On: Synoptic Theory From: Bruce I will go back to the trajectory argument presently. Meanwhile, one point or two...
Bruce: Fails? MY argument fails? Surely you jest. Let me sneak up on it this way. I would agree in this way with Dave: I think the hot button area lies in the ...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG In Response To: Dave G On: Synoptic Theory (Trajectories) From: Bruce Dave: If the miracles attributed to Jesus were actually empirical...
Bruce remarks: "Jesus's resurrection (please note: a miracle of God, not one performed by Jesus himself, the only Gospel material of which he is the object and...
I thank Bruce for his clarifications, and most especially for the magic through which he was able to thoroughly cleanse my scribbling of unwanted question...
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Jun 13, 2008 12:18 am
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With apologies for cross posting. Here is a draft of what I've worked up on the questions of the historicity of the Matthean and Lukan accounts of Jesus...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG In Response To: Leonard On: Markan Priority (Gundry) From: Bruce I can fully sympathize with Leonard's Dar es Salaam time constraints. ...
To: Synoptic Cc: Crosstalk 2; GPG In Response To: Jeffrey Gibson On: The Matthean Temptations From: Bruce Jeffrey, you have some extra space and extra period...
Sorry Jeffrey, I find what you write not persuasive. "What makes the certain the negative answer to the question of the historicity of the incidents narrated...
To: Synoptic Cc: GPG In Response To: Leonard (11 June 08) On: Trajectory Arguments From: Bruce Leonard: I did not want to deal with your individual arguments,...
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