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Did NASA land anybody on the moon?   Message List  
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Re: [Starship_Forum] Re: Did NASA land anybody on the moon?

As you've argued, NASA landed people on the moon, but they've also released
questionable photos. Here's the photo mentioned earlier of the trackless lunar
rover:

http://www.aulis.com/jackstudies_1.html



> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [Starship_Forum] Re: Did NASA land anybody on the moon?
> > Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:56:23 -0600
> > From: John Frazer <johnf4303@...>
> > Reply-To: Starship_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> > To: starship_forum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > So what's the point of revealing that it was hoaxed? Should we
> be
> > ashamed that we didn't have technology to go? Should we feel
> > abashed
> > that we've been spoon-fed a bunch of lies?
> >
> > by: monart pon Jun 4, 2009
> > > Your reasons support the reality of the moon landings, but
> > that's not
> > to say that NASA was always truthful about what they released to
> > the public.
> > >
> > > Some of the skeptics of the moon landings were questioning the
> > anomalies revealed in many of the photos of the landings and
> > excursions.
> > For example, one photo, if it were authentic, need an
> explanation:
> > it
> > shows the lunar rover sitting some distance away from the lunar
> > module,
> > amidst numerous boot tracks, yet no wheel tracks at all are
> > visible, not
> > even tracks adjacent to the wheels. So how did the rover travel
> to
> > that
> > distance from the lunar module without making any tracks?
> >
> >
> >
> > (Maybe it went the long way around? It went elsewhere, and came
> > around
> > to where they took the photo from. Maybe the tracks which might
> > have
> > been in the frame were hidden by terrain?)
> >
> > The other explanation is that they kludged this one up; placed
> the
> > rover
> > there on the studio stage without thinking that it should have
> > left
> > tracks getting there. They screwed this one up, along with all
> the
> > others they messed up by leaving extra lights on, using the same
> > backdrop repeatedly in supposedly different locations, left air
> > vents on
> > to ripple the flags and composited elements in obviously fake ways.
> > They made all these obvious amateurish mistakes and let slip
> > through
> > faked photos which "whistleblowers" left clues in.
> >
> > All these stupid mistakes, while choreographing the staggeringly
> > immense
> > "real-space opera" of multiple rovers, orbiters and landers
> > relaying the
> > faked TV signals and all the telemetry from all over cis-Lunar
> > space.
> > All of it in precise sequence with the images relayed from the
> > soundstage (where they so imperfectly filmed the landings).
> > All of this space choreography was a much bigger task and a
> harder
> > technical challenge than sending people there.
> >
> > The only solid evidence of fakery is the kludged photos. Nothing
> > in the
> > radio telemetry to clue the USSR or anybody else with a radio
> > telescope.
> > Amateur astronomers with backyard telescopes took shots of the
> > ships
> > orbiting the Moon and emerging from shadow and stages separating
> > in
> > space. Before NASA let it be known that 13 was in trouble, an
> > astronomer
> > had taken photos of the escaping cloud of O2.
> >
> > So even if they made lots of mistakes in the photos, they still
> > accomplished the most astounding technical feat in history -one
> > which we
> > can't reproduce today.
> > They proved without a doubt who had the biggest cojones on the
> > planet or
> > off of it, and beat the Reds soundly in the race to dominate space.
> > Kudos to the US for faking the Apollo program! Congrats for the
> > most
> > amazing technical feat ever!
> >
> > On top of this, the US soundly beat the USSR at its own game of
> > force
> > and intimidation and secrecy over the years so that none of the
> > whistleblowers who left clues in the photos has come forward.
> None
> > of
> > the hundreds of thousands of people who worked on the secret
> > robotic
> > program with which they faked it have come forward. Nothing but
> > photos?
> > (All of which can be and have been adequately explained away
> with
> > experiment and testing, BTW)
> > Again, an immense task and they've pulled it off flawlessly.
> >
> > Seriously, if it was faked, I'm in awe at how well they did it.
> > They
> > deserved to win the cold war.
> >
> >
> > > Of course, from this, or any other number of questionable NASA
> > photos
> > or reports, one shouldn't jump to the conclusion that all the
> moon
> > landings were faked. On the other hand, one shouldn't assume
> that
> > NASA
> > always told the truth or the whole truth, either.
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> --



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Did NASA ("Never A Straight Answer") land anybody on the moon (AND brought them back)? There is evidence that not all was for real, that at least some fakery...
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A lot of this is baloney or not significant. For instance, look at the shadows of rocks and other objects on a bright day and you'll notice that the shadows...
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Let nature and thought take its course. Not many have a mind like yours, Dan. As you know, to answer the question objectively requires knowledge and judgment,...
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This kind of stuff baffles me (that anybody could take it seriously). If they posit that NASA faked the Apollo shots, they must be taking either of 2...
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So what's the point of revealing that it was hoaxed? Should we be ashamed that we didn't have technology to go? Should we feel abashed that we've been...
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As you've argued, NASA landed people on the moon, but they've also released questionable photos. Here's the photo mentioned earlier of the trackless lunar...
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