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Re: Sex allegations are true...

ULLAS RULES!!!

Ullas, you had already told me about your investigation privately. But now =
that your
story is here, I am sure it will help many people to understand the true na=
ture of
the SCC.
Bravo!

By the way, after some efforts of the SC manifestation team to silence the =
ex-disc
here in Brazil, we will have some interesting news on sunday. I'll keep you=
informed.
Bye


--- In Sri_Chinmoy_Information@y..., "flexullas" <flexullas@y...> wrote:
> Sex allegations are true…
>
> My name (given by Sri Chinmoy) in the Sri Chinmoy movement/Centre was
> Ullas. I am sure quite a few of you remember me. Hopefully as a sane
> and responsible person. I was a disciple/ student of Sri Chinmoy for
> 23 years. I left in January 2000.
>
> I would like to make a statement about the sex allegations concerning
> Sri Chinmoy:
>
> I am probably one of the few people until now who were able to speak
> in person to all 3 women (I knew all of them from my time in the
> Centre) who have courageously made public their testimonials with
> regard to their sexual experiences with Sri Chinmoy and his various
> special wishes on this forum (see messages 1/73, 328 and 975). Please
> read them again if you are able to do so. And read them repeatedly if
> you are starting to forget about the seriousness of these allegations.
>
> I heard of Anne/Phulela´s story in fall 2001. And believe me, over
> a
> period of more than 9 months now I have not left a single stone
> unturned to make sure as much as I possibly could that these 3 women
> are not lying. It was also important for my own life to know. I spoke
> on the phone with them (with two of them several times) and exchanged
> countless e-mails with all of them until recently. I spoke to another
> 11 people (whom I trust because I have known them for years) who
> talked with most or all of them personally within the last 9 months,
> and I have also had e-mail contact with the ex-husband of one of them
> (whom I knew as a very responsible person too) and another 3 ex-
> disciples (whom I knew well) who have written to me saying that they
> have talked to at least one of the women concerned. Most of these
> persons knew these 3 women well if not very well. I met an old close
> friend I trust very much who met Anne/ex-Phulela and Rose/ex-Rupavati
> (see their messages #73 and # 975) twice this year in person in New
> York and who spoke to them openly about many details of their sex
> experiences with Sri Chinmoy.
>
> In what everybody says (impressions they had, incidents they remember
> etc.) but especially in the consistency of what these 3 particular
> women have been saying for months now and also from their reactions
> when they communicate with you, and from the precise details you hear
> from them it is impossible that they could be lying in such an
> absolutely perfect way (one of them told some people years ago; 3 of
> them are ex-disciples I knew, and they confirmed that she had told
> them about her sexual experiences and strange relationship -see
> message 328- with Ghose/Sri Chinmoy years ago).
> These 3 women are very nice, sincere, spontaneous, intelligent and
> great personalities who are trying to take the right steps to let
> people know about a very strange aspect (to say the least) of Sri
> Chinmoy, unpleasant as this is. Quite a number of people (even a few
> they never knew) have been able to communicate with them. It is
> understandable that they will probably not be able to talk to every
> ex-disciple in the world.
>
> Important: Remember that the reported incidents are not only about
> sex between man and woman (a man who said he is our spiritual father
> (!) and who asked his disciples to follow a strictly celibate
> lifestyle) but also about two pregnancies (later abortions) with Sri
> Chinmoy as the father. Also (please don´t forget!), we are hearing
> that Sri Chinmoy tells women (those I spoke with have no lesbian
> tendencies) to obey him and have lesbian sex with each other alone at
> their homes and/or in front of him telling them exactly what to do.
> Some of these incidents could be seen as a grave misuse of authority
> and misuse of his undoubtedly immense influence on some of his
> disciples. It seems that this has been going on for at least 28 years
> (first reported incident took place in 1973, last one in 2001!).
>
> I tried to reach Sri Chinmoy in person by calling him this year when
> he was in a hotel in Malaysia (Christmas trip). I could not reach him
> although I was finally connected to his room. I left a message with
> one of his old disciples (whom I know well) who is in charge of
> giving Sri Chinmoy´s messages back and forth to people around the
> world. I told this person about the serious sex allegations (he took
> me seriously and said he had heard of the allegations from other
> people as well) and that I would like to talk to Sri Chinmoy and
> hear "his side" of the story, as it would be irresponsible of
> me not
> to try to hear "the other side" and I gave him my private
> telephone
> number. I felt and I knew (as he did) that I had helped Sri Chinmoy
> more than enough over the years so that he could or should at least
> once give me a response to these most shocking allegations
> directly. He never called me back. The 3 women mentioned above
> however, do not hide. Why should this be?
>
> I have tried to stay as neutral as possible, and have questioned
> everything again and again. Something the disciples who have heard
> about the sex allegations concerning Sri Chinmoy probably don´t
> do.
> When it is as serious and important an issue as this is, there will
> be a point when you will have to take a clear and unambiguous
> position.
>
> It took me a long time to prepare myself to make this public
> statement but let me make it here as clearly and sincerely as I can:
>
> Yes: I sincerely believe that the 3 stories (messages 1/73, 328, 975
> in this forum) of these 3 women (ex-disciples of Sri Chinmoy)
> concerning sex with Sri Chinmoy, and their allegations about his
> special wishes are indeed true, and that there is a good chance that
> what we will hear in the future could be even worse (more disciples
> involved, more shocking details etc.).
>
>
> We will look back and discover a whole new world.
>
> Love,
> Flex (ex-Ullas), Vienna





Thu Jul 25, 2002 10:43 pm

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Sex allegations are true… My name (given by Sri Chinmoy) in the Sri Chinmoy movement/Centre was Ullas. I am sure quite a few of you remember me. Hopefully...
flexullas
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Jul 25, 2002
7:14 pm

ULLAS RULES!!! Ullas, you had already told me about your investigation privately. But now = that your story is here, I am sure it will help many people to...
romeu_bruns
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Jul 25, 2002
11:08 pm

... yes, they are true: I met Anne and Rose and I can confirm it. I was a disciple from 1989 till 2000, most of the time in Vienna Centre, Austria. The first...
snowwhite11373
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Jul 26, 2002
7:30 pm

Hello Flex, Your brother Kailash is/was (?) chief of Big Germany. As a psychologist, what is his opinion about the phenomenon CKG? Dominic...
dominub Offline Send Email Jul 26, 2002
7:31 pm

Wow, this is a tough one... i read this stuff here and cant begin to believe it. So far this is a one big hoax to me. And it would take Ullas personally...
farfrom7 Offline Send Email Jul 28, 2002
1:25 pm

Dear Peter, yes it's pretty wild. When I was first told of this site I really didn't even want to access it because I thought it was a bunch of ex's with an...
Sara Sparks
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Jul 28, 2002
2:44 pm

Thankyou Ullas for your posting. I do remember you. It is important to have people like yourself to come forward to make it absolutely clear that these...
Sara Sparks
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Jul 29, 2002
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