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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: E15

Then the fuel wasn't really drained was it.
In storing aircraft, fuel should be drained from the carb bowls and tank . Fuel
shutoff should be closed and engine run till you run out of fuel and fuel tanks
put in an attitude to drain out completely which is easy to do if the tank drain
pickup is at the right spot.
You can also possibly put in Av gas in case of a 912 which can hold a whole lot
longer than today's US car gas.
Abid

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Watson" <bill@...> wrote:
>
> Draining your tank maximizes the amount of air available to consense water
> from, maybe topping off is better? Also then if you have a puddle (or drops)
> in the bottom of the tank and add fuel, you are stirring the water into the
> gas so the water drops will be dispersed within the fuel instead of settled
> on the bottom ready to be drained from the gascolator.
>
> Thoughts?
> Bill Watson
> bill@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Bill Holmes
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:30 AM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: E15
>
> Truth be told........
>
> Rotax engines have been tested to the 15% level. The engines have been
> certified by Rotax to the 10% level with no adverse effects. The only
> issues I have seen in the engines running ethanol gas are related to
> having it sit for 2-3 weeks between running. If you are not going to at
> least run the engine every couple of weeks you should make sure to top
> off or drain your tank AND empty the carburetor bowls. The problem is
> not the ethanol but the water that it can absorb. If the water content
> becomes to high for the volume of ethanol then the water will drop out
> of solution. The water that drops out of solution is very low pH and
> VERY corrosive to the aluminum parts.
>
> You should also, per Rotax requirements, NOT be using ANY paper filters
> of any kind. A screen type or mesh/stone filter is best.
>
> This article was about making sure that we are not forced to accept 15%
> ethanol gasoline at the pumps.
>
>
> --
> Bill Holmes SP PPCL,
> Light Sport Repairman Maintenance (AP, WSC, PPC)
> Independent Rotax Repair Facility
> Born To Fly
> Huber Airpark (E70)
> 2475 Rudeloff Rd.
> Hangar 1B
> Seguin, TX 78155
> 210-831-7123
> billholmes@...
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IMPORTANT NOTICE: The deadline to oppose E15 fuel is less than 10 days away. - RESPOND TODAY - http://www.fueltestkit.com/complete_form_to_oppose_e15.html ...
Bill Holmes
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Jul 12, 2009
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Rotax engines are certified to operate on 10% ethanol. Helen Jul 12, 2009 01:29:26 PM, Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com wrote: IMPORTANT NOTICE: The deadline to...
Helen Woods
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Jul 13, 2009
11:22 am

Hi Helen, You are so knowledgeable about these things, I fly ultralight. My Rotax 377 with a plastic filter as well as my Rotax 503, which due to weight, ...
Dennis Meeks
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Jul 13, 2009
3:52 pm

Dennis: Rotax said it is OK. Of course they are probably mistaken after all they only manufacture the engines. Damn I wish the had consulted with you first. ...
James Galvin
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Jul 13, 2009
7:16 pm

I know nothing about 2 stroke Rotax engines. Sorry. I know the 9 series is now approved for up to 10% ethanol. If you give Lockwood a call in the morning...
Helen Woods
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Jul 14, 2009
1:03 am

Truth be told........ Rotax engines have been tested to the 15% level. The engines have been certified by Rotax to the 10% level with no adverse effects. The...
Bill Holmes
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Jul 13, 2009
6:31 pm

Draining your tank maximizes the amount of air available to consense water from, maybe topping off is better? Also then if you have a puddle (or drops) in the...
Bill Watson
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Jul 13, 2009
7:07 pm

Then the fuel wasn't really drained was it. In storing aircraft, fuel should be drained from the carb bowls and tank . Fuel shutoff should be closed and engine...
Abid Farooqui
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Jul 14, 2009
3:09 pm

Hi Bob, There are other problems with ethanol. As the altitude rises, fuel with ethanol is more prone to vapor lock than fuel without ethanol and that has...
Abid Farooqui
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Jul 14, 2009
3:05 pm

For some reason, my Sky Arrow, with a ROTAX 912ULS, mandates no more than 5% ethanol. I wonder if that's because... 1) They're just being conservative, 2)...
Edward Benson
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Jul 14, 2009
12:45 pm

#2 most likely. It was a Rotax restriction before for 5% ethanol which has recently been updated to 10% ethanol. However, you should clearly ask Sky Arrow if...
Abid Farooqui
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Jul 14, 2009
3:14 pm

It's probably because Rotax was only approved for 5% ethanol up until about a month or so ago and they haven't changed the manual yet, but you'll still need an...
Helen Woods
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Jul 14, 2009
12:49 pm

If you want to know how much ethanol is in your particular batch of fuel, EAA sells a testing kit. http://www.eaa.org/autofuel/autogas/test_kit.asp Paul...
pglen33
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Jul 14, 2009
2:02 pm

In Oklahoma we have a few stations that advertise 100% gas.  Oddly enough one is the Walmart gas station ________________________________ From: pglen33...
Roger Poyner
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Jul 14, 2009
3:10 pm

Yes but is it Chinese 100% gas :)? If so, you may just want to go to the local Sunoco even with 10% ethanol. Abid...
Abid Farooqui
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